The other 29'

[WetWillie]

Ok not to take away from Charlies boat cause its amazing!
Whats the scoop on this bad boy??
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/243DCB29-med.jpg
Hopeing someone would sneek down there and get some spy shots for us!
WW wink
[ April 10, 2003, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: WetWillie ]

[RIPPINGNOLEGSKROKER]

Frog in a blender

[roln 20s]

I'm really curious too!
Roln 20s

[WetWillie]

Common there are a LOT of guys and Gals in here with Big time pull with Dave! Whats the scope?
We need some spy shots of this baby! I need to know if Iam going duallys or a BIG single!
WW argue

[dcbguy]

just a rumor. but i heard that boat is well on its way. still being built i guess. if charleys boat ran that bitchin' this should run good too!

[hot_diggity_dog]

We need some spy shots of this baby! I need to know if Iam going duallys or a BIG single! Hey WW,
I thought we discussed this issue already? :confused:
One is good two is better. wink
Are you still going to put in the twin Blown Teague motors, eek! eek! or are you going to puss out and go small? devil
HDD :cool:

[WetWillie]

Well I was going to head out and talk to Dave after I found out how the new 29 bottem ran!
Then Escrow closed on the new place and Im on hold for another year!
Tring to just keep up with the Bycor boys! wink
WW eek!

[Mr.Havasu]

Talked to the owner last night...He is still waiting on the motor
Should be done mid June, Maybe!

[Taylor E. Fernsten]

I saw it today when I ordered my f-29... it is powered by a 1300 pony from teague with a six drive. They are just waiting on the motor to finish this one up. From what I heard Bob wanted to build this quad whipple for him

[WetWillie]

Can someone Pleazzz get us a spy shot of this bad boy!!
WW eek!

[25 Eagle]

Looks like they copied the 30' AMT to me. How bout you HH?

[XFactor]

Accually the 29DCB was painted first. Both were done by Dick Vale. They are amazing when rigged & completed. The picture above does the boat NO justice.

[mbrown2]

I was down there today, and they received the engine for the "Other 29", and were dropping it in while I was there....It was a huge engine...Imagine the engine Infomaniac just built going in a Mach29 with a number 6 and you got the picture; that is one sick looking boat and one phat a$$ engine..(1200HP Quad Whipple)...Sick I say; Sick. :)

[Craig]

Anybody know what the cost comparison would be on the two 29's if someone off the street got a quote? 29 with two healthy motors like Charlies with Bravo style drives vs. the one big bad motor and a six? What do they think the single will do 110-120?

[Havasu Hangin']

Craig:
Anybody know what the cost comparison would be on the two 29's if someone off the street got a quote?Well...I'm not an expert, and I've never priced anything from DCB (I didn't pass the snob test), but I'll take a stab:
Boat & trailer- $100K- $110K (give or take) depending on the trailer and options. How close am I Charley?
Single- #6 ($30K) and big motor ($60K?)
Twins- Charley probably can correct my guess and ballpark his twins.
I gotta study for the snob test better.
[ June 08, 2003, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: Havasu Hangin' ]

[Phat_Kat]

Havasu Hangin':
Craig:
Anybody know what the cost comparison would be on the two 29's if someone off the street got a quote?Well...I'm not an expert, and I've never priced anything from DCB (I didn't pass the snob test), but I'll take a stab:
Boat & trailer- $100K- $110K (give or take) depending on the trailer and options. How close am I Charley?
Single- #6 ($30K) and big motor ($60K?)
Twins- Charley probably can correct my guess and ballpark his twins.
I gotta study for the snob test better. Maybe I just misunderstood but are you guessing 110k for the whole F-29? I'm probably confused but I'll protest it anyway. If you'd care to look at prices the F-26 with 2 mercs runs 130k! So wouldn't you assume that the F-29 would be much more? I'm probably confused but then again maybe I did read right!

[WetWillie]

Boat and trailer $100k to $110k. Then you add the drive and motor!
I would say for a respectable F29 you would be in the $160k to $180k range. But of course the sky is the limit!
WW jawdrop
I still want to see a picture of that boat done..Anyone??

[Charley]

I don't wanna get into posting prices here but when I was ordering my boat Dave and I chatted about the cost difference between a 1200HP motor with a 6 VS 2 650HP motors with Xtreme SC's .... The actual cost was surprisingly very close! This F-29 promises to be amazing but I'm glad I went Twins :D

[Havasu Hangin']

WetWillie:
Boat and trailer $100k to $110k. Then you add the drive and motor!That's what I meant. Someone could call & verify...
$100K plus $80K in motor & drive...sounds close (even if Charley is scared to quote retail pricing)...but I'm no expert.
Is Charley afraid to anger the gods?
http://images.lamer.net/worship.gif http://www.dcbracing.com/images/FLOGO1.jpg
Maybe is someone from DCB would stop lurking and start posting...they'd answer the gentlemen's question...

[Mr.Havasu]

I'm pretty sure this bad boy runs over $200K
I bought my 28' warlock from the owner of this boat. Can't wait to see it!
[ June 11, 2003, 01:55 PM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

[LevoeDCB22]

Was there today when that motor lit off for the 1st time, hope i wasnt standing too close to that paint job when i sprung wood :D

[WetWillie]

Damn I scroll down sooooo fast hoping to see a picture and nothing!!
Oh well!
WW :rolleyes:

[DCB Boat Rigger]

its going to the lake in the morning for some testing!I will let you all know!

[Mr.Havasu]

Doesn't anyone in San Diego have a digital?

[andy01]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/720P1010017-med.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/720P1010016-med.JPG
Link to a thread.............. http://forums.***boat.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=005261
Sure looks good, wonder what numbers it pulled?

[boxscore]

Was at DCB today and happened upon that little jewel prior to it's water testing. I know Dave had a difficult last few weeks, but you all shoulda seen the shit eating grin on his face when he's hopping into the truck on his way to the water. Those pictures posted of that 29 do it no justice. I'm sure there are a few cars swervin' on the freeway craning their necks to figure out what the hell they just passed!

[Lakeshow]

Couldn't get better ones Dave was trying to pull the rig out while I snapped off a couple shots.
I can verify the sh*t eatin grin - ear to ear.
Must have seen you but didn't know you boxscore.

[boxscore]

Yep Lake.... suppose we were there at the identical time... had a chance to briefly chat with Dave but was there to work with Carlos on graphics for my new boat. Glad you also noticed Dave and his crew acting like kids on Xmas morning. You didn't notice the Bubbliscious, Space Dust, and bottle rockets hanging out of Daves back pocket?

[hot_diggity_dog]

its going to the lake in the morning for some testing!I will let you all know! I seen the boat this morning going North on the 15 in Bonsal/Escondido wink
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/720P1010016-med.JPG
Hot (man we all could use a boat like that) Diggity Dog :rolleyes:

[WetWillie]

OK! So what is the scoop how did she run?
I wanna hear the results?
WW wink

[WetWillie]

OK!!! What happened?? Someone give us the juice!
WW wink

[Jrocket]

I had an inside tip today that the boat ran in the mid 130's!!!!!! eek!
[ June 14, 2003, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: Jrocket ]

[WetWillie]

Holy Moly!!!!!
Thats faster then twins with more hp!!!
WW jawdrop

[Jrocket]

I dont have bragging rights,so Ill let the other people tell the story,but it is quick and fast....it ran 134-137,oops I cant help it!!!

[Mr.Havasu]

It came out awesome,
[ June 27, 2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

[DCB Boat Rigger]

Jrocket:
I dont have bragging rights,so Ill let the other people tell the story,but it is quick and fast....it ran 134-137,oops I cant help it!!! .
Thanks for letting the cat out for us.The boat ran well and on pump gas, but your inside scoop was wrong on the numbers!

[mbrown2]

Boat looks great...good to hear it ran good; however, I would like to know what the real numbers were... :)

[DCB Boat Rigger]

mbrown check your messages

[Missphat_kat]

DCB Boat Rigger:
mbrown check your messages check yours boat rigger!

[Tom Slick]

I guess how good it ran is a secret, since everyone is now using their PM to relay the info. What gives, does it run a good number or not? What is the big secret anyway?

[Havasu Cig]

I was told by a "source" it ran about 110.
I checked the source again and got the above #
[ June 17, 2003, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: Havasu Cig ]

[=PAYED CA$H=]

ONLY 110, THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG WASTE OF MONEY ON THAT FANCY DRIVE AND MOTOR PACKAGE.........
I'LL TAKE CHARLEYS SETUP OVER THAT PAINT EXPLOSION ANY DAY......... :D :o

[Charley]

hold on now, lets not jump too quick...let me get the scoop and I'll get back

[Mr.Havasu]

I like the paint! I think it will really turn heads.
And any thing over 100 is probable fast enough for parker. He should never have a problem blowing the drive at that speed. Although I think it went faster than 110, that kind of HP on a 29 cat should of produced more.

[=PAYED CA$H=]

CHARLEY, I'LL WAIT TO HERE THE TRUTH....... :D
WARLOCK25, I THINK YOU SCORED ON YOUR SETUP, SUCKS FOR HIM........ :D

[Havasu Cig]

Yeah I would like to know what the "truth" is...

[Reaper1]

" You can't handle the truth!" :D

[Charley]

Ok so here is the scoop ... the boat indeed ran 110 on elsinore...notoriously a sticky/slow lake to begin with. So it seems kinda slow for 1200 horsepower motor huh? Well that's cause it wasn't pushin 1200 HP....Teague is making them run less SC boost and pump gas for a little break in period. Basically the motor is making about 1000-ish HP and 100 of that goes into that #6 with Tranny....so 900 Hp at the prop pushing a 29' 6000 lb boat 110?? sounds pretty good to me..... just for comparison sake here are a few HB test results on " as close to like" setups as I could find
American Offshore 30'6'' 3100 American Offshore 2 x 600SCs Tops speed 102.4 2000
definitely a little bigger boat though.
FORCE 29 Cat 750HP / Imco Drive Top Speed 89.9 2003
Eliminator Daytona 28LP
Weight as tested 6,100 pounds
Engine (2) Teague Custom Marine 509/620HP
Top Speed at rpm Stalker Radar 114.5 mph at 5600

[Jrocket]

DCB Boat Rigger:
Jrocket:
I dont have bragging rights,so Ill let the other people tell the story,but it is quick and fast....it ran 134-137,oops I cant help it!!! .
Thanks for letting the cat out for us.The boat ran well and on pump gas, but your inside scoop was wrong on the numbers! I swear,Im never taking advice from a wino again!!! :D

[WetWillie]

Who you calling a wino???
WW wink

[Jrocket]

WetWillie:
Who you calling a wino???
WW wink HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....LMAO :D

[Mr.Havasu]

=PAYED CA$H=:
CHARLEY, I'LL WAIT TO HERE THE TRUTH....... :D
WARLOCK25, I THINK YOU SCORED ON YOUR SETUP, SUCKS FOR HIM........ :D Right now I just feel like I'm missing the whole season.
Sucks living in Havasu without a running boat.
[ June 27, 2003, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

[Havasu Cig]

The speeds on the A/O and Force seem really low to me, especially the A/O with twins. :confused:

[=PAYED CA$H=]

WARLOCK25,
WHAT KINDA SPEEDS ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR SETUP?
I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE IT DOWN TO PARKER WHEN ITS DONE AND SHOW HIM WHAT HE'S MISSING.... :D IF YOU DONT LIFT OFF THE THROTTLES YOUR BOUND TO GET THE VICTORY........ idea :D

[=PAYED CA$H=]

CHARLEY,
I THINK YOU GOT "THE OTHER 29" BEAT REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH HP ITS GONNA MAKE WHEN ITS BROKEN IN... :D I DONT SEE 10-12 MPH COMING FROM JUST ANOTHER 200HP..... eek!

[=PAYED CA$H=]

THATS WHY I PUT "SHOW HIM WHAT HE'S MISSING"!!!!
RIVER DAVE IM UP ON ALL THE BEHIND THE SCENES STUFF TOO........I GOT EARS..... :D

[Mr.Havasu]

Actually we would love to run those two cats side by side, that would be a sight!
[ June 27, 2003, 09:02 AM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

[mbrown2]

warlock25:
Actually we would love to run those two cats side by side :D
I don't know how he would feel about it though :confused: What kind of horsepower are running in the Warlock?

[=PAYED CA$H=]

I DONT THINK I WOULD BE TO HAPPY TO SEE MY OLD BOAT SPANK ME EITHER........ :D
WARLOCK25,
YOU DO HAVE TO FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN DO THAT AT ANY TIME NOW DONT YOU?.... :D

[Charley]

Havasu Cig:
The speeds on the A/O and Force seem really low to me, especially the A/O with twins. :confused: Chris I have to agree on the AO and the force but It was directly off this websites tests on the mainpage.... I'm sure there are other tests out there that might be good to have for comparison sake.....In fact I would like to know if someone really knows how luch power and the top speed of the 25' daytona on Lake mead with the #6 drive..."Real numbers"

[mbrown2]

From looking at the two boats, I don't think the guy built this boat to spank his last one...I thought the Warlock was around 900Hp x 2 in a 28 ft cat with Bravo 1 drives...and the new boat is 1200Hp in a 29ft cat with a number 6...Sounds like the guy wanted a little bigger deeper boat that would run around 120 with a solid motor and solid drive that he would not have to worry about..
How much has Warlock25 spent on freshening those those engines since he bought the old boat..
110, 120, its all fast :) ...but being able to do it everyday without having to worry about drives and complex engine setups, is what I would prefer.. :)

[Charley]

=PAYED CA$H=:
CHARLEY,
I THINK YOU GOT "THE OTHER 29" BEAT REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH HP ITS GONNA MAKE WHEN ITS BROKEN IN... :D I DONT SEE 10-12 MPH COMING FROM JUST ANOTHER 200HP..... eek! Thanks PC...I do Like my setup quite a bit wink so far Jim Wilkes of HB got the best top speed # from my boat , Bob Teague of PB got a decent # too....look for the articles in next months ***boat and powerboat mags....I hope it gets good reviews all the way around, but only time will tell :D

[=PAYED CA$H=]

CHARLEY,
IT GETS 10'S ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARDS FROM ME........
THAT SETUP IS ALL ANYONE COULD ASK FOR AND SOME...... eek!

[Mr.Havasu]

M Brown,
You were right on the money. When we got the boat it had twin 950 HP with bravo1 drives.
We are seriously de-tuning the motors to approx 800-850 hp. It should still be plently fast enough.
[ June 27, 2003, 09:03 AM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

[WetWillie]

Saw her going north on the 5 freeway at 4pm. Just about crashed tring to look! I wanted to spin around and follow it up north and just drool.
Any new info or is she fine tuned and ready to run?
WW eek!
[ June 20, 2003, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: WetWillie ]

[WetWillie]

Can you tell I have 29 on my brain? Any update on this boat?
Would like to hear what the end result netted?
WW wink

[Havasu Hangin']

WetWillie:
Would like to hear what the end result netted?I heard around 110MPH (give or take 5MPH). Although...he may have to be careful about breaking some noise laws (since the paint job is so loud).