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RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 09:45 AM
Build boats with real windshields?? Is it a looks thing? Do customers not want them? Even Reggie puts them on his boats. Just curious :idea: And the wife won't let me get a boat without a windshield :D

HavasuDreamin'
07-23-2004, 09:49 AM
Think canopies. :)

throwerb
07-23-2004, 09:51 AM
Buy her a good pair of sunglasses and tell her we're gonna do it west coast style:cool:

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
Think canopies. :)
Canopies are cool. But only a few put those on only a few of their boats. I haven't seen any deck casts and only a couple of the mid cabins with them.

BarryMac
07-23-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by throwerb
Buy her a good pair of sunglasses and tell her we're gonna do it west coast style:cool:
exactly - west cost = best coast...
gjb ;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by throwerb
Buy her a good pair of sunglasses and tell her we're gonna do it west coast style:cool:
That will get me nowhere :D But I like your thinking.

dicudmore
07-23-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by throwerb
Buy her a good pair of sunglasses and tell her we're gonna do it west coast style:cool:
what he said :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by dicudmore
what he said :D
You guys are a lot of help :D

mbrown2
07-23-2004, 10:02 AM
I am thinking it is a look thing...just takes away from the lines on the Hull...plus IMHO you really don't need one until you start cruising a lot over 90...

jbtrailerjim
07-23-2004, 10:12 AM
I don't think I'd really have a need for a windshield on my boat. It does not go fast enough to where the wind bothers us and I don't boat in the winter. Also I think my boat would look lame with a big windsheild on it. I guess it's just west coast kinda thang.;) :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:16 AM
I love the canopies.. sometimes it does get a little hot behind them.. just ask the Mr.. LOL!!;) :p :p

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:17 AM
I don't mean some kinda big gangly Bayliner or Sea Ray looking thing. Something like a Fountain or Sunsation. Those guys make it look good. DCB has a very cool looking canopy on their 28'V. Of course being a west coast thing :cool: If you got the money, I guess they will build you a windshield.

phebus
07-23-2004, 10:19 AM
Compromise. Get wind deflectors installed. That way you can fold them down when you don't want to use them.

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I don't mean some kinda big gangly Bayliner or Sea Ray looking thing. Something like a Fountain or Sunsation. Those guys make it look good. DCB has a very cool looking canopy on their 28'V. Of course being a west coast thing :cool: If you got the money, I guess they will build you a windshield.
yep.. but we didn't have the money it just came with it.. LOL!!;) :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
yep.. but we didn't have the money it just came with it.. LOL!!;) :D
I've seen pics of your boat. Very Nice:D :cool: :D I don't think the wife will let me spend the bucks for one of those. :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I've seen pics of your boat. Very Nice:D :cool: :D I don't think the wife will let me spend the bucks for one of those. :D
she'd be very happy with it.. doesn't hurt to ask though.. the 28 is very nice also.. ;) :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
she'd be very happy with it.. doesn't hurt to ask though.. the 28 is very nice also.. ;) :D
I'm out of the twin engine business for a while. Last night I pulled my kids on a tube for 45min!!! If I had twins that would have cost a fortune :D

spectras only
07-23-2004, 10:29 AM
My friend builds these two boats with windshields ,and I don't think it looks bad. I'm going to make some functional one for my 24 spectra as well. http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/kavalk19.8.jpg http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/kazulin24.14%20copy.jpg

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I'm out of the twin engine business for a while. Last night I pulled my kids on a tube for 45min!!! If I had twins that would have cost a fortune :D
true.. we were actually thinking of buying a jet so we could pull the kids with it.. ;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
true.. we were actually thinking of buying a jet so we could pull the kids with it.. ;)
I used to love blasting up and down the lake with our Villain. But now we have the kids and all their buddies and skiing and tubing are all we do now. A very cool Eliminator blasted by us. Man it looked fun!!:cool:

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I used to love blasting up and down the lake with our Villain. But now we have the kids and all their buddies and skiing and tubing are all we do now. A very cool Eliminator blasted by us. Man it looked fun!!:cool:
I here ya..:D we need to make the kids happy too..
I love our DCB but miss the jet boat so I can ski ..;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
I here ya..:D we need to make the kids happy too..
I love our DCB but miss the jet boat so I can ski ..;)
I'll bet the Hirless Kitty could put the hurt on some tubers :D

throwerb
07-23-2004, 10:48 AM
true.. we were actually thinking of buying a jet so we could pull the kids with it..
I'm willing to make a sacrifice Mrs Flyin Vee and trade boats with you every other weekend so you can pull the kids behind a jet. I know it's generous of me but since it's for the kids and all':D Here's a pic so the kids can get excited.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by throwerb
I'm willing to make a sacrifice Mrs Flyin Vee and trade boats with you every other weekend so you can pull the kids behind a jet. I know it's generous of me but since it's for the kids and all':D Here's a pic so the kids can get excited.
Quick thinker :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 10:52 AM
it is a very nice boat.. but you'de have to hit up the Mr about the every other weekend.. :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by mbrown2
I am thinking it is a look thing...just takes away from the lines on the Hull...plus IMHO you really don't need one until you start cruising a lot over 90...
Hallett put a windshield on the 540 and it looks very cool :cool: Maybe the could put one on the 270S. :cool:

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by gottajetboat
exactly - west cost = best coast...
gjb ;)
Who are you kidding!!!! East Coast Boats Kick Ass!!!! If you had unlimited funds and were going to buy your dream boat, which side do you think it would get built on, most likely the side where the sun rises!!!!!!

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Who are you kidding!!!! East Coast Boats Kick Ass!!!!
Is Sunsation East Coast?

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:08 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Three Days Only
Who are you kidding!!!! East Coast Boats Kiss Ass!!!! [/QUOTE.. LOL!! west is the best and east is the least.. :D :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Is Sunsation East Coast?
Close Enough
Sunsation Powerboats
9666 Kretz Dr.
Algonac, MI 48001

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:11 AM
There sure seems to be lots more Custom builders in the West. But I'm still driving a Chaparral so what do I know :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Close Enough
Sunsation Powerboats
9666 Kretz Dr.
Algonac, MI 48001
Do they make a deckboat yet?

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Three Days Only
Who are you kidding!!!! East Coast Boats Kiss Ass!!!! [/QUOTE.. LOL!! west is the best and east is the least.. :D :D
East comes with the least underneath the bow (cats at least), but more everywhere else. When Dave starts using foam core balsa, and vacum bags his boats with Kevlar, and epoxy resins then you can pipe up until then, keep leaving in the west where everything is not even close to the best.
Mrs. Flyn V............ Are you finally sleeping.
Read my signature, that explains it all.

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Do they make a deckboat yet?
You got me, check their site
Sunsation Powerboats (http://www.sunsationboats.com)

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
East comes with the least underneath the bow (cats at least), but more everywhere else. When Dave starts using foam core balsa, and vacum bags his boats with Kevlar, and epoxy resins then you can pipe up until then, keep leaving in the west where everything is not even close to the best.
Mrs. Flyn V............ Are you finally sleeping.
Read my signature, that explains it all.
boy you sure get your panties in a bunch for a joke that you don't like.. :D :D J/K I never sleep I have to nice of a boat that is built by the best to do that.. :D :D :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:17 AM
Three Days brings up another good point. Why so much wood in the West Coast Custome???:idea:

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:18 AM
no viagra needed on the west coast.. :confused: :D :D :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
no viagra needed on the west coast.. :confused: :D :D :D
Man, I stepped right into that one didn't I!?!?!:D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Man, I stepped right into that one didn't I!?!?!:D
it's better then backing into it.. :p :D

BarryMac
07-23-2004, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Who are you kidding!!!! East Coast Boats Kick Ass!!!! If you had unlimited funds and were going to buy your dream boat, which side do you think it would get built on, most likely the side where the sun rises!!!!!!
Dude, when I get my ***boat mag and they do a special issue on East Coast boats I throw it directly in the recycle bin, they are not appealing to me at all, I would take a DCB, Ultra or any West Coast builder, maybe even Commander before I would buy an East Coast boat, IMO the East Coast boast are ugly as hell, but that is just my opinion...
gjb

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
it's better then backing into it.. :p :D
Ouch! :eek:

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:22 AM
Lets put this into prespective
West Coast / Just A Few
DCB
Eliminator
Conquest
Howard
Advantage
Nordic
Lavey Craft
SleekCraft
Magic
Schiada - They Should Be East Coast
ETC ETC.........
East Coast / Only The Best
MTI
Skater
Spectre
Cigarette
Hustler
Outterlimits
Fountain
Nor-Tech
ETC ETC........
Ouch that stings just alittle bit doesnt it!!!!!
Anybody that thinks the west coast is top in the game bumped their heads.

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Ouch! :eek:
LMAO!! yep .. :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Lets put this into prespective
West Coast / Just A Few
DCB
Eliminator
Conquest
Howard
Advantage
Nordic
Lavey Craft
SleekCraft
Magic
Schiada - They Should Be East Coast
ETC ETC.........
East Coast / Only The Best
MTI
Skater
Spectre
Cigarette
Hustler
Outterlimits
Fountain
Nor-Tech
That about settles that.
East Coast has more windshields :D :D

HavasuDreamin'
07-23-2004, 11:26 AM
Michigan .........east coast ...........LOL :D
Do we need a geography lesson? Douglas Marine and Sunsation are both in Michigan. Last time I checked, that was the midwest. :p

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
no viagra needed on the west coast.. :confused: :D :D :D
thats cause the west coast guys arent pimpin all the chicks in one night!!!!! All the girls are flocking to those big ass east coast rides!!!!

FREIND OF AA AND TA
07-23-2004, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Lets put this into prespective
West Coast / Just A Few
DCB
Eliminator
Conquest
Howard
Advantage
Nordic
Lavey Craft
SleekCraft
Magic
Schiada - They Should Be East Coast
ETC ETC.........
East Coast / Only The Best
MTI
Skater
Spectre
Cigarette
Hustler
Outterlimits
Fountain
Nor-Tech
ETC ETC........
Ouch that stings just alittle bit doesnt it!!!!!
Anybody that thinks the west coast is top in the game bumped their heads.
Hey ass! where is the Outlaw?

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:26 AM
I think it is getting hot in here.. ;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
Michigan .........east coast ...........LOL :D
Do we need a geography lesson? Douglas Marine and Sunsation are both in Michigan. Last time I checked, that was the midwest. :p
East Michigan?? :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
thats cause the west coast guys arent pimpin all the chicks in one night!!!!! All the girls are flocking to those big ass east coast rides!!!!
LOL!! thats cause sloppy seconds aren't their style.. LOL!! :D

HavasuDreamin'
07-23-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
East Michigan?? :D
You ever been through Detroit? It is a lovely city. I recommend cruising through in you ride with spinners at night! :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:31 AM
Jeeze! Didn't mean to start the Drama :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:33 AM
no drama.. I'm just playin with him.. I hope he isn't taking what I'm saying serrious.. cause if he is then I'm outta this thread.. ;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
You ever been through Detroit? It is a lovely city. I recommend cruising through in you ride with spinners at night! :D
No spinners on the Burb. Ever see anyone put them on a boat trailer :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
Michigan .........east coast ...........LOL :D
Do we need a geography lesson? Douglas Marine and Sunsation are both in Michigan. Last time I checked, that was the midwest. :p
They might call it mid west, but geographically it is far closer to the east coast then to the west.
Detroit, Michigan to San Francisco , Cali 2403 Miles
Detroit Michigan To New York 625 Miles
I would consider that way more mid east then mid west.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
no drama.. I'm just playin with him.. I hope he isn't taking what I'm saying serrious.. cause if he is then I'm outta this thread.. ;)
This is probably how the East / West Rapper wars started :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
This is probably how the East / West Rapper wars started :D
LMAO!! true that.. :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:37 AM
Are you kidding, this is what gets me through me day at work!!!
Just cause I have a East Coast Boat doesnt mean im a dick, unless of course your name is Charley and your in between DCB's.
Charley thinks im a dick!!!!!
For Sures

Stupid Fast
07-23-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
You ever been through Detroit? It is a lovely city. I recommend cruising through in you ride with spinners at night! :D
LMAO, because I have been there........No spinners though.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
LMAO!! true that.. :D
If somebody starts typing "Boyeeeeee" I'm outta here :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:38 AM
Mrs. Flyn V,
So you never answered my question, are you sleeping better now that you finally got your boat?
By the way, It looks fricken sweet on the water!!!!

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Are you kidding, this is what gets me through me day at work!!!
Just cause I have a East Coast Boat doesnt mean im a dick, unless of course your name is Charley and your in between DCB's.
Charley thinks im a dick!!!!!
For Sures
well I don't know you .. so why would I thuink you are a dick.. if you act like one then thats different.. but since I don't know you.. so far your o.k.. ;) :D
so are you a dick or are you playin like I am..
balls are in your court.. then I'll judge you.. it's your call.:D

Powerquestboy
07-23-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Lets put this into prespective
West Coast / Just A Few
DCB
Eliminator
Conquest
Howard
Advantage
Nordic
Lavey Craft
SleekCraft
Magic
Schiada - They Should Be East Coast
ETC ETC.........
East Coast / Only The Best
MTI
Skater
Spectre
Cigarette
Hustler
Outterlimits
Fountain
Nor-Tech
ETC ETC........
Ouch that stings just alittle bit doesnt it!!!!!
Anybody that thinks the west coast is top in the game bumped their heads.
There's nothing more to say! I might add, Formula, Donzi, Powerquest to that list but all the heavy hitters are definitly there. East coast all the way!
East Coast = Ocean Boats
West Coast = Lake Boats
There are a few exceptions!

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Mrs. Flyn V,
So you never answered my question, are you sleeping better now that you finally got your boat?
By the way, It looks fricken sweet on the water!!!!
sleeping much better now.. having alot of dreams about bein on the water though.. see I like to get wet.. :D :p

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Powerquestboy
There's nothing more to say! I might add, Formula, Donzi, Powerquest to that list but all the heavy hitters are definitly there. East coast all the way!
East Coast = Ocean Boats
West Coast = Lake Boats
There are a few exceptions!
Yep, East Coast still has more windshields :D I forgot all about Powerquest and Donzi. Not custom though.

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Stupid Fast
LMAO, because I have been there........No spinners though.
Only if you want to get jacked. Michigan is actually a cool state, I go there a couple times a year to visit family who live in West Bloomfield, Mi.

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
sleeping much better now.. having alot of dreams about bein on the water though.. see I like to get wet.. :D :p
You just got to keep it wet, thats the key!!!!!
What kind of speed have you gotten out of the hairless kitty so far, it looked like you guys & gals were moving out pretty hard last weekend.

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
You just got to keep it wet, thats the key!!!!!
What kind of speed have you gotten out of the hairless kitty so far, it looked like you guys & gals were moving out pretty hard last weekend.
the motor really hasn't got the hours on it yet.. but so far it has been to 111..with throttle left.. so We are suppose to take it back out in a few weeks and run it hard.. ;)

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
the motor really hasn't got the hours on it yet.. but so far it has been to 111..with throttle left.. so We are suppose to take it back out in a few weeks and run it hard.. ;)
So..... anybody in the open bow at that speed?

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
So..... anybody in the open bow at that speed?
no we won't allow it in our boat.. it is too dangerous and I don't think it is legal.. :confused: ;) or is it with grad handles.. ;)

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
the motor really hasn't got the hours on it yet.. but so far it has been to 111..with throttle left.. so We are suppose to take it back out in a few weeks and run it hard.. ;)
I would guess that it should run in the mid 120's no problem seeing that those DCB's work well with tall gears and props.
I need to finally meet you guys, were not going to be back out to the river until the weekend of Aug 14th. We should set something up for Park Moabi, with a board get together or something, last time we did it, it turned out to be really fun.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
no we won't allow it in our boat.. it is too dangerous and I don't think it is legal.. :confused: ;) or is it with grad handles.. ;)
Might be with a windshield :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
I would guess that it should run in the mid 120's no problem seeing that those DCB's work well with tall gears and props.
I need to finally meet you guys, were not going to be back out to the river until the weekend of Aug 14th. We should set something up for Park Moabi, with a board get together or something, last time we did it, it turned out to be really fun.
sounds good to me.. I would love to meet you and the crew.. ;)

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Might be with a windshield :D
LOL!! but only on the east coast.. :p :D :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
sounds good to me.. I would love to meet you and the crew.. ;)
Okay, we will set something up for the weekend of August 14th on Saturday. We should put it up on the boards the first week of August. We will call it
The West Coast Cat / East Coast Cat Peace Convention!!!!
Thats some funny stuff. Notice how I put the west on the left and the east on the right. Nice.
Jeff

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Okay, we will set something up for the weekend of August 14th on Saturday. We should put it up on the boards the first week of August. We will call it
The West Coast / East Coast Peace Convention!!!!
Thats some funny stuff.
Jeff
Nobody invited me :( Must be because my boat has a friggin windshield :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Nobody invited me :( Must be because my boat has a friggin windshield :D
you are invited anytime sweetie can you make it down.. ;)

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Okay, we will set something up for the weekend of August 14th on Saturday. We should put it up on the boards the first week of August. We will call it
The West Coast Cat / East Coast Cat Peace Convention!!!!
Thats some funny stuff. Notice how I put the west on the left and the east on the right. Nice.
Jeff
the west is the best thats why it's on the left.. ;) :D :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 12:06 PM
How about the Outter Harbor @ Havasu Springs, Theres stuff for the kids to do their, although I didnt think about boat parking. Theres alot of dock space between the two areas.
Or do you think that Park Moabi would be better.

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
How about the Outter Harbor @ Havasu Springs, Theres stuff for the kids to do their, although I didnt think about boat parking. Theres alot of dock space between the two areas.
Or do you think that Park Moabi would be better.
I have never been to the outter harbor so whatever you think.. I'll follow you east coasters.. :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
I have never been to the outter harbor so whatever you think.. I'll follow you east coasters.. :D
Whatever, The outter harbor is just a bar with a arcade for the kids. Im just not sure there would be enough dock space for everyone. We just need a spot where people can get off there boats and mingle. The last one we did was really cool!!!!

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 12:10 PM
Well figure it out in a couple of weeks, no big deal.
Im going to go get some lunch and then go home for a nooner, its about that time!!!!!

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
you are invited anytime sweetie can you make it down.. ;)
Thanks Mrs. V. Only a few thousand miles away. But Otter Harbor? Sounds like my kinda place :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 12:11 PM
LOL!! talk at ya later.:D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Thanks Mrs. V. Only a few thousand miles away. But Otter Harbor? Sounds like my kinda place :D
Its only 3 1/2 hours on a plane

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-23-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Thanks Mrs. V. Only a few thousand miles away. But Otter Harbor? Sounds like my kinda place :D
well you are always invited with us.. so if you can make it down.. we will meet up with ya.. :D

Three Days Only
07-23-2004, 12:13 PM
C-ya all L8tr
Jeff

Stealth Marine
07-23-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Build boats with real windshields?? Is it a looks thing? Do customers not want them? Even Reggie puts them on his boats. Just curious :idea: And the wife won't let me get a boat without a windshield :D
I can't speak for any other manufacturer, but we offer three different variations on our boat.
Short, most common in Havasu.
Medium, Actually offers some wind protection.
Tall, good for offshore runs or when you want to be very protected from the turbulence of the wind shear.
The whole point of getting a custom boat, is to get it the way YOU want it....

HammerDown
07-23-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Powerquestboy
There's nothing more to say! I might add, Formula, Donzi, Powerquest to that list but all the heavy hitters are definitly there. East coast all the way!
East Coast = Ocean Boats
West Coast = Lake Boats
There are a few exceptions!
Just add in Sonic to the East Coast heavy hitters...game over.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Marine
I can't speak for any other manufacturer, but we offer three different variations on our boat.
Short, most common in Havasu.
Medium, Actually offers some wind protection.
Tall, good for offshore runs or when you want to be very protected from the turbulence of the wind shear.
The whole point of getting a custom boat, is to get it the way YOU want it....
You mean like real glass you can see through or fiberglass windscreen?

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
When Dave starts using foam core balsa, and vacum bags his boats with Kevlar, and epoxy resins then you can pipe up until then, keep leaving in the west where everything is not even close to the best.
Stand by TDO...
Vaccuum bagged, "Corecell" 1.25" core, uni-directional glass, 1 oz skin, 2.2# per square foot...
Stand by.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Stand by TDO...
Vaccuum bagged, "Corecell" 1.25" core, uni-directional glass, 1 oz skin, 2.2# per square foot...
Stand by.
Sounds like somethings a brewing :idea:

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Stand by TDO...
Vaccuum bagged, "Corecell" 1.25" core, uni-directional glass, 1 oz skin, 2.2# per square foot...
Stand by.
Oh... and what about a windshield :D

Stealth Marine
07-23-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
You mean like real glass you can see through or fiberglass windscreen?
Thus far no one has ever asked for real glass.
Everyone wants plexi in various thicknesses or hights.
But I suppose, if someone REALLY wanted glass, we could look into setting up a jig to do it. But it would be a SERIOUS investment to form the glass to the boat properly. Not something to be undertaken for the faint of wallet.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Marine
Thus far no one has ever asked for real glass.
Everyone wants plexi in various thicknesses or hights.
But I suppose, if someone REALLY wanted glass, we could look into setting up a jig to do it. But it would be a SERIOUS investment to form the glass to the boat properly. Not something to be undertaken for the faint of wallet.
That's why I started this thread. Why doesn't anyone out there order a Fountain type windshield? What would that cost? $1,000, $5,000, $10,000?:idea:

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
That's why I started this thread. Why doesn't anyone out there order a Fountain type windshield? What would that cost? $1,000, $5,000, $10,000?:idea:
A) More Expensive
B) Clunky looking, regressive styling
C) It is warm here, and you don't need the protection from cold
D) We don't want to look like an east coaster
E) Most models come with a raised faux windshield in fiberglass. You rarely look through the windshield anyway, so this just allows you to put more boat up higher, and get your gauges into your sightline etc...
Have you ridden in a West Coast custom that you found the wind to be too much on? Has your wife? Seems like a pretty blanket statement if she hasn't.
That reminds me of the "requirement" some women have for a porta potty.
The fastest way to ensure that you do not need to outfit your new boat with a porta potty is to have your chick clean out that honey bucket after a weekend using it. I have never seen one get used twice. Most men remove it from the boat to prevent your drunk freinds from figuring out that this is the place to deuce.
I think you will find no need for a windscreen. Deflectors are great if it is absolutely neccessary.

jbtrailerjim
07-23-2004, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
[That reminds me of the "requirement" some women have for a porta potty.
The fastest way to ensure that you do not need to outfit your new boat with a porta potty is to have your chick clean out that honey bucket after a weekend using it. I have never seen one get used twice. Most men remove it from the boat to prevent your drunk freinds from figuring out that this is the place to deuce.
[/B]
LMAO.......Honey Bucket. Now thats funny.:D
Jim<-----Ain't cleaning out no porta potty.

Tom Brown
07-23-2004, 01:43 PM
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 01:45 PM
Honey Bucket?? I was thinking "Stank Kettle" and that's why we have a pump out :D As for my friends, lots of hazing and embarassment if they even think of getting near that head locker.
I still don't think a Fountain, Donzi, Sunsation look "clunky" or "regressive".
It's not only warm here... it's a WET heat. 90% Humidity!

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:
So that's why the US rivers are so polluted. The dirty water runs down out of Canada :D

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I still don't think a Fountain, Donzi, Sunsation look "clunky" or "regressive".
That's because you are in Tennessee. It isn't clunky or regressive there. But, the good news is, you guys can still buy 10 year old California boats and look totally modern down there! ;) Kind of like Cuba. A 1983 Datsun looks like a Ferrari Modena compared to the '53 Desotos rolling the streets...
It's not only warm here... it's a WET heat. 90% Humidity!
All joking aside, why do you need a windscreen then? What is the rationale?
And, you never answered my question with regard to riding in a newer West Coast Custom. Have you, or your wife ridden in the newer breeds, and was that what solidified the decision? If so, what in particular didn't you like about them...

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
That's because you are in Tennessee. It isn't clunky or regressive there. But, the good news is, you guys can still buy 10 year old California boats and look totally modern down there! ;) Kind of like Cuba. A 1983 Datsun looks like a Ferrari Modena compared to the '53 Desotos rolling the streets...
LMAO!! Yep over here all we can afford is the 10 - 15 year old CA boats :D
All joking aside, why do you need a windscreen then? What is the rationale?
Wife, bugs during night driving, the 2 thunderstorms I always seem to find because of the 90% humidity
And, you never answered my question with regard to riding in a newer West Coast Custom. Have you, or your wife ridden in the newer breeds, and was that what solidified the decision? If so, what in particular didn't you like about them... [/B]
Unfortunatly no I have not. I have riden in some jet boats and maybe I'm getting old but I don't always like the wind pealing my face off. Maybe not a fair comparison.

Stupid Fast
07-23-2004, 01:58 PM
Just a question. What about bugs? I know in the evenings around here without a windscreen of some sort you will be picking bugs off your face and dragon flys hurt like hell even at 20 mph.

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Unfortunatly no I have not. I have riden in some jet boats and maybe I'm getting old but I don't always like the wind pealing my face off. Maybe not a fair comparison.
Decidedly not fair. Wind protection is actually pretty good on most boats with adequate freeboard. That is the trend.
The one you rode in probably had you hanging out like dogs balls. The newer breed is not like that.
And, like I said, you can buy a used 1989 Kachina in Miami Vice pink and teal and be totally contemporary in the south. ;) Think of the cost savings!

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Stupid Fast
Just a question. What about bugs? I know in the evenings around here without a windscreen of some sort you will be picking bugs off your face and dragon flys hurt like hell even at 20 mph.
Just guessing but I bet we have more bugs here. And yes, when you take one in the eye it leaves a nice big busted blood vessle behind.

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Stupid Fast
Just a question. What about bugs? I know in the evenings around here without a windscreen of some sort you will be picking bugs off your face and dragon flys hurt like hell even at 20 mph.
Wear a helmet.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Decidedly not fair. Wind protection is actually pretty good on most boats with adequate freeboard. That is the trend.
The one you rode in probably had you hanging out like dogs balls. The newer breed is not like that.
And, like I said, you can buy a used 1989 Kachina in Miami Vice pink and teal and be totally contemporary in the south. ;) Think of the cost savings!
Believe it or not, you can't even sell a pink and teal boat here :D :yuk: :D . Friend bought a teal Chaparral. Can't sell it.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Dragboats
I learned a long time ago: "If She's not happy-I'm not happy":)
And that's why we have a pump out head :D

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Dragboats
I learned a long time ago: "If She's not happy-I'm not happy":)
This is merely a sales problem. You need to change what makes her happy.
Most have no idea what makes them happy... they only recognize it when they experience it. The windshield problem is only a problem because somehow she has accepted that as buying criteria, without any experience to draw from. Change the experience, change the criteria.

Powerquestboy
07-23-2004, 02:14 PM
All depends on what you do in a boat. In havasu a 10 minute ride to the sandbar with the wind in your face is great. When I'm at Lake Powell and 90 miles up lake its nice to sit behind a windshield. And if your staying for a few days the ladies definitly like the Head on board. Otherwise I always took it out for fear of a drunk buddy dropping transmission because he thinks its funny.

Froggystyle
07-23-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Powerquestboy
And if your staying for a few days the ladies definitly like the Head on board.
Well, you can always BRING a porta potty. I just don't think it is a neccessary engineering feature on the vessel. A lot of time and energy goes into them, and for emergent use, who needs a head? I need a towel and about 30 seconds of heckle-free time.
They seem like a huge waste of space, utility and lots of potential liability with regard to spillage or misuse.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Powerquestboy
All depends on what you do in a boat. In havasu a 10 minute ride to the sandbar with the wind in your face is great. When I'm at Lake Powell and 90 miles up lake its nice to sit behind a windshield. And if your staying for a few days the ladies definitly like the Head on board. Otherwise I always took it out for fear of a drunk buddy dropping transmission because he thinks its funny.
We do long excursions on our river. And do lots of fall boating. So the windshield and pump out really are a must.
I have also read several posts on how much wind comes through the deck cats. That is the kind of boat I need at present. I'd love to have DCB or Eliminator type cat but family size and their buddies require a deck or open bow.

Powerquestboy
07-23-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Well, you can always BRING a porta potty. I just don't think it is a neccessary engineering feature on the vessel. A lot of time and energy goes into them, and for emergent use, who needs a head? I need a towel and about 30 seconds of heckle-free time.
They seem like a huge waste of space, utility and lots of potential liability with regard to spillage or misuse.
100% Wrong! Its called for each his own. I'm not a fisherman and dont have any use for a live well but I sure dont think they should stop putting them in Bass Boats. I dont buy Open Bow boats because I like to sleep in my own bed when I camp for 4 days but I dont think they should stop building open bows or deck boats.
With each type of boat you give something up for something else that is more important to you. I love deck boats because they are great for day trips, have 10 times the room of a closed bow but is it something I want to stay 3 nights on in Catalina? I dont think so. I want a cabin, refrigerator and yes a shiter! If I only made day trips at havasu, Parker or anywhere else I would own a party cat! But I spend decent amounts of time living on my boats so I look for other things.

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 04:09 PM
Well... I guess the answer is - Nobody on the west coast wants a friggin' windshield :D

Jrocket
07-23-2004, 04:12 PM
Windshields are for cars.:D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Jrocket
Windshields are for cars.:D
I'm not buying that stupid aquacar!

phebus
07-23-2004, 04:29 PM
I have a deckboat, and it is a pretty windy ride, but I think it adds to the experience rather than take away from it. Almost all of our boating is done at Havasu, where a breeze is refreshing, and the idea of being stuck behind a windshield doesn't sound very appealing. If I were to do anything, wind deflectors would be the option, as you could use them when you want, but fold them away the majority of the time. I wouldn't want a motorcycle with a windshield, or a boat.

Jrocket
07-23-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
I'm not buying that stupid aquacar!
Where would you get insurance for that thing?

HammerDown
07-23-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:
You just won funniest post ever :D
But seriously, that could save me on wet naps and running in the bushes!:p

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Jrocket
Where would you get insurance for that thing?
Haggerty

phebus
07-23-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:
Just be sure to keep swimming, those floaters are nasty!! :D

Jrocket
07-23-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:
One trip to Taco Bell and you'ld change your outlook on that quickly.
Brown that had to be the funniest thing you have ever put up.You kill me dude!:D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by phebus
Just be sure to keep swimming, those floaters are nasty!! :D
Wander how lond it follows him :idea:

SoCalOffshore
07-23-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Stupid Fast
Just a question. What about bugs? I know in the evenings around here without a windscreen of some sort you will be picking bugs off your face and dragon flys hurt like hell even at 20 mph.
NO bugs on the west coast. Yep and no humidity either, atleast virtually most of the time. And REAL men werar goggles! :D

Jrocket
07-23-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
Wander how lond it follows him :idea:
Toms not stupid,he would swim up stream for sure!

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Jrocket
Toms not stupid,he would swim up stream for sure!
LOL :D

RiverOtter
07-23-2004, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by SoCalOffshore
NO bugs on the west coast. Yep and no humidity either, atleast virtually most of the time. And REAL men werar goggles! :D
No Humidity, hmmmmmmm.... I wouldn't know what to do! You know in the Southeast we are God fits us with gills so we can breathe :D

LASERRAY
07-23-2004, 10:53 PM
Windshields look good on a Hallett.;)

Charley
07-24-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Three Days Only
Hey Pussies..........If you wanna play with the big boys, first you need to buy a boat that can handle the ocean!!
I dont boat in the ocean you dumbass.... why would I want some big ugly porpoising pig in Havasu that has no cabin?? So i can invite everybody down to see my balsa core??
PS I do believe Dave lays up a nice boat... Why cant those east coast losers learn how to spray some gelcoat?:D

RiverOtter
07-24-2004, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by Charley
I dont boat in the ocean you dumbass.... why would I want some big ugly porpoising pig in Havasu that has no cabin?? So i can invite everybody down to see my balsa core??
PS I do believe Dave lays up a nice boat... Why cant those east coast losers learn how to spray some gelcoat?:D
LMAO!! Never understood that unfinished cabin thing :D

HammerDown
07-24-2004, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
On hot days, I like to slip into the water with my trunks off, get a gentle breast stroke going, and slip a duke out on a forward stroke. If you do it right, it feels like velvet and there's no need to wipe. :cool:
...because once again I fell outta my chair laughing:D

SeaRayPat
07-24-2004, 09:25 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RiverOtter
[B]I don't mean some kinda big gangly Bayliner or Sea Ray looking thing. ]
Hey! ..dont be hating! Sea Ray

RiverOtter
07-24-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by SeaRayPat
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RiverOtter
[B]I don't mean some kinda big gangly Bayliner or Sea Ray looking thing. ]
Hey! ..dont be hating! Sea Ray
I don't hate them. I've owned 2. Pachanga 22 - Loved it (it had a windshield) and a 370 Dancer - Loved it (it had everything) :D

Froggystyle
07-26-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Powerquestboy
100% Wrong! Its called for each his own. I'm not a fisherman and dont have any use for a live well but I sure dont think they should stop putting them in Bass Boats. I dont buy Open Bow boats because I like to sleep in my own bed when I camp for 4 days but I dont think they should stop building open bows or deck boats.
I am confused. I thought you meant that you CAMP for four days. I didn't know you meant sleeping on the boat. Different story.
With each type of boat you give something up for something else that is more important to you. I love deck boats because they are great for day trips, have 10 times the room of a closed bow but is it something I want to stay 3 nights on in Catalina? I dont think so. I want a cabin, refrigerator and yes a shiter! If I only made day trips at havasu, Parker or anywhere else I would own a party cat! But I spend decent amounts of time living on my boats so I look for other things.
You are making my point. If you are going to be "camping" on the boat, or overnighting, I think that a porta-potty, a sink, stove, cabin etc... is very important.
I don't think that having one on a party boat is a neccessity. They are by nature a day boat, and you wouldn't spend three days in Catalina on it. I think you would rather have more room for coolers, speakers or seating. We decided not to build a head into this boat because in all of my time at the river, I have never seen one used. Period. Even if they were on board, they were off limits.
My only point is, that when a woman lays down the law and says... our new boat HAS to have a porta-potty, on a deck boat you could easily talk them out of it.
BTW, a porta potty is an option on the Trident. ;)

RiverOtter
07-26-2004, 10:26 AM
But will Trident install the pumpout porti poti? Then you don't have to do "rock, paper, scizzors" to figure out who empties the thing.

Froggystyle
07-26-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
But will Trident install the pumpout porti poti? Then you don't have to do "rock, paper, scizzors" to figure out who empties the thing.
Oh hell no.
I am going to put a sticker on the cleanout drawer of every single one that we sell that says... "I told you so... Love Trident"
This is a deckboat. No need for a portapotty.

RiverOtter
07-26-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Oh hell no.
I am going to put a sticker on the cleanout drawer of every single one that we sell that says... "I told you so... Love Trident"
This is a deckboat. No need for a portapotty.
LMAO :D

Mandelon
07-26-2004, 10:54 AM
Otter, if you are serious check out Nordic. They have pretty big windshields on their boats. Smoked plexiglass, swept back, and look as good as a windshield can I suppose.
When I had a boat with a windshield I spent most of my time trying to look over the damn thing.
www.nordicpowerboats.com
http://www.nordicpowerboats.com/models/25/25main.jpg

RiverOtter
07-26-2004, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Mandelon
Otter, if you are serious check out Nordic. They have pretty big windshields on their boats. Smoked plexiglass, swept back, and look as good as a windshield can I suppose.
When I had a boat with a windshield I spent most of my time trying to look over the damn thing.
www.nordicpowerboats.com
I do like the Nordics but I'm in deck boat mode. Wife, Kids, Friends, Friends wife .... er uh.... Friends kids :D
Honestly, I think if one threw enough money at a builder one would get his windshield :D

Froggystyle
07-26-2004, 11:08 AM
Nordic builds a deckboat... kind of.
There is really nowhere to put a windscreen on a deck boat. You forsake the second helm for seating for the most part.
Conquest has a dual helm model, that I am sure you could ruin with some windshields. ;)
For the most part, it is not a boat designed for screens.
Have you thought about Ebbtide? There are a couple of production deck-style boats that have more bowrider than deck characteristics, but still have windscreens and heads.
I would look towards big bowriders. Probably your best bet.

RiverOtter
07-26-2004, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Nordic builds a deckboat... kind of.
There is really nowhere to put a windscreen on a deck boat. You forsake the second helm for seating for the most part.
Conquest has a dual helm model, that I am sure you could ruin with some windshields. ;)
For the most part, it is not a boat designed for screens.
Have you thought about Ebbtide? There are a couple of production deck-style boats that have more bowrider than deck characteristics, but still have windscreens and heads.
I would look towards big bowriders. Probably your best bet.
LMAO about the Conquest!!! I know Chaparral and dare I say it Sea Ray make decks with full windshields. I know they are not even in the same arena but I wanted something different. I love the WC boats. Problem is Mrs Otter's gotta have her windshield and potti.

Froggystyle
07-26-2004, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by RiverOtter
LMAO about the Conquest!!! I know Chaparral and dare I say it Sea Ray make decks with full windshields. I know they are not even in the same arena but I wanted something different. I love the WC boats. Problem is Mrs Otter's gotta have her windshield and potti.
Well, that will probably limit your choices then.
Best of luck to you. Tough deal.

RiverOtter
07-26-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Froggystyle
Well, that will probably limit your choices then.
Best of luck to you. Tough deal.
Sorry, I ment to add to my post that the above mentioned Assemble Line boats have tons of room even with a windshield.