I am not in to politics and dont know of many of our candidates views...

[dmontzsta]

but here is one thing I have noticed and maybe some of you might agree and/or disagree and (set me straight a little).
Kerry reminds me of Clinton and if this is true, personally Clinton did nothing in my books, he was out of sight out of mind (we know why).
Bush doesnt take any shit, he just goes knocking people out. (My kind of guy!)
Am I crazy? :)

[Beautiful Noise]

Originally posted by dmontzsta
Am I crazy? :)
Are you sure you really want our Opinion on this:rolleyes: ;) :D

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
Are you sure you really want our Opinion on this:rolleyes: ;) :D
Don't ask Don't tell...;)

[Lake Pirate]

Don't drop the soap. Most of the guys in here will be drooling over you like a new Vette with this topic. If OG asks you to ride in his boat after this don't wear spandex.

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
Are you sure you really want our Opinion on this:rolleyes: ;) :D
:D bring it, I can handle it! :D
Bush for president and shit...I think...I probably wont end up voting again just like last year, the year before and the year before over and over again. :eek:

[Beautiful Noise]

I'm talking about weather your Crazy or Not:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
I'm talking about weather your Crazy or Not:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I think I am crazy for thinking I am fast and KNOWING I am slow, hows that for crazy?

[Beautiful Noise]

Well I cant fault you for being right I guess:rolleyes: ;) :D :D

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
Well I cant fault you for being right I guess:rolleyes: ;) :D :D
Am I right, I even confused myself...politics are confusing damnit.

[Beautiful Noise]

Originally posted by dmontzsta
politics are confusing damnit.
Thats alright just like owning a Boat I guess:rolleyes: :D

[MagicMtnDan]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Don't drop the soap. Most of the guys in here will be drooling over you like a new Vette with this topic. If OG asks you to ride in his boat after this don't wear spandex.
So you're a homophobic troll :eek:

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
Thats alright just like owning a Boat I guess:rolleyes: :D
owning a boat is confusing...Big Block power in a little boat yet I am still slow...dont get it. :confused:

[Beautiful Noise]

Stop it your confusing me:rolleyes: :D

[Lake Pirate]

Homophobic? I dunno...maybe? I'm still not going to Rodeo Drive and help you pick out a purse so quit flirting with me.

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Beautiful Noise
Stop it your confusing me:rolleyes: :D
I know I am just too confused, I have confused myself and in return confused you and who knows how many others and yet I am still confused. :confused: I guess I am crazy! :p beer is good.

[HCS]

I hate discussing politics. Because there's two pionts of veiw.
One is right. The other is wrong.
And the left side insist on rattling off at the brain. It's just like
left handed people, you don't do things right.
That's why the monkey wrench was invented.
Now all the lefty's can chime in.:rolleyes:

[NorCal Gameshow]

left handed people are in their right mind

[Dr. Eagle]

Hey, quit putting down lefties like that... I'm ambidextros...

[HCS]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Hey, quit putting down lefties like that... I'm ambidextros...
You must be Moderate.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
You must be Moderate.
J/K..... I'd be (and have been) called pretty hardcore... just not a religious tighty righty...

[Rexone]

As I listen to Kerry speak I hear the same old shit. Stuff that Clinton promised and choked on after back in 1992. Big talk, no action. And Clinton is a better speaker, even though its mostly bullshit. Kerry would be more of the same if not worse. He's as left as they come. And his wife is a clueless idiot on the issues that face this country. Anyone who thinks she won't influence what he does and what he says has their head seriously buried in the sand. And... they would be "by far" the wealthiest couple to occupy the white house since George Washington (indexed for inflation). Not that others haven't been rich but the Heintz Kerry's make all the others look like beggers with estimates of her fortune ranging from 1 Billllllion up to over 3 billlllion. With mansions and estates all over the friggin country. Disregarding all the other issues, I'm thinkin the aloofness of all that is not gonna be aimed at helping the common man's situation in life. Just an educated guess.
Only difference is Kerry probably won't get as many bj's as slick Willie did cause he looks kinda like an old tree.
Bush is not perfect but he has my vote. And from a national security point of view (which I feel is the #1 issue for everyone today) he is light years ahead of the Clinton/Gore/Kerry mentality on defense and proactivity of taking care of business in the war on terrorists. If national security goes to shit because the guy in charge has his focus on less important issues, all the other issues could become pretty irrelevent. The entire world faces a greater threat today than in any time in history just because of the level of technology that in the wrong hands could be a massive problem that man has never encountered in prior wars and disagreements. It is no longer who's got the best army or the baddest tanks and ships, it is whos got the loose cannon nukes and bio agents and a covert way to deliver them on the masses. That's what the war on terror is all about. 911 while a horrible event, is like comparing a candle to a brush fire as far as what a successful multi-city nuclear attack by terrorists could achieve.
Disregarding all other issues (that in my mind being the most important one) I'll take Bush over Kerry by a longshot for dealing with the protection of our country against these very "real" threats. If the man in charge takes his eye off the ball (like womens rights for example which is not a major issue IMO) the ball will hit him squarely between the eyes.
That is my monthly allocation of political rant.... :D

[bigq]

Originally posted by dmontzsta
Kerry reminds me of Clinton and if this is true, personally Clinton did nothing in my books, he was out of sight out of mind (we know why).
Kerry hardly reminds me of Clinton, more along the lines of Bob Dull.:D
Clinton was slick, and seemed to take credit for others ideas at the last second, but he was a character i'll give him that, good thing the Republicans were there to keep him in line.
Political wise Kerry is a socialist in my view and Clinton was much more moderate, God help us if Kerry get's in.:wink:

[bigq]

and WTF was his wife talking about last night, sounded like an oppressed female, jeez STFU! all that money and she still whines.:D

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by Rexone
As I listen to Kerry speak I hear the same old shit. Stuff that Clinton promised and choked on after back in 1992. Big talk, no action. And Clinton is a better speaker, even though its mostly bullshit. Kerry would be more of the same if not worse. He's as left as they come. And his wife is a clueless idiot on the issues that face this country. Anyone who thinks she won't influence what he does and what he says has their head seriously buried in the sand. And... they would be "by far" the wealthiest couple to occupy the white house since George Washington (indexed for inflation). Not that other haven't been rich but the Heintz Kerry's make all the others look like beggers with estimates of her fortune ranging from 1 Billllllion up to over 3 billlllion. With mansions and estates all over the friggin country. Disregarding all the other issues, I'm thinkin the aloofness of all that is not gonna be aimed at helping the common man's situation in life. Just an educated guess.
Only difference is Kerry probably won't get as many bj's as slick Willie did cause he looks kinda like an old tree.
Bush is not perfect but he has my vote. And from a national security point of view (which I feel is the #1 issue for everyone today) he is light years ahead of the Clinton/Gore/Kerry mentality on defense and proactivity of taking care of business in the war on terrorists. If national security goes to shit because the guy in charge has his focus on less important issues, all the other issues could become pretty irrelevent. The entire world faces a greater threat today than in any time in history just because of the level of technology that in the wrong hands could be a massive problem that man has never encountered in prior wars and disagreements. It is no longer who's got the best army or the baddest tanks and ships, it is whos got the loose cannon nukes and bio agents and a covert way to deliver them on the masses. That's what the war on terror is all about. 911 while a horrible event, is like comparing a candle to a brush fire as far as what a successful multi-city nuclear attack by terrorists could achieve.
Disregarding all other issues (that in my mind being the most important one) I'll take Bush over Kerry by a longshot for dealing with the protection of our country against these very "real" threats.
That is my monthly allocation of political rant.... :D
LMAO about that slick willie comment.
I totally agree with you, thank you for strengthening my belief and adding some politcalness to the situation.

[WetWillie]

Amen Brother!! I think about this issue often. I trully believe we will see a Nuke go off in this country in our lifetime.. I hope it does not happen but it really matters who is in the white house!! The economy is strong and if this happens if will put everything in a tailspin.
BUSH get my vote>>
Originally posted by Rexone
As I listen to Kerry speak I hear the same old shit. Stuff that Clinton promised and choked on after back in 1992. Big talk, no action. And Clinton is a better speaker, even though its mostly bullshit. Kerry would be more of the same if not worse. He's as left as they come. And his wife is a clueless idiot on the issues that face this country. Anyone who thinks she won't influence what he does and what he says has their head seriously buried in the sand. And... they would be "by far" the wealthiest couple to occupy the white house since George Washington (indexed for inflation). Not that other haven't been rich but the Heintz Kerry's make all the others look like beggers with estimates of her fortune ranging from 1 Billllllion up to over 3 billlllion. With mansions and estates all over the friggin country. Disregarding all the other issues, I'm thinkin the aloofness of all that is not gonna be aimed at helping the common man's situation in life. Just an educated guess.
Only difference is Kerry probably won't get as many bj's as slick Willie did cause he looks kinda like an old tree.
Bush is not perfect but he has my vote. And from a national security point of view (which I feel is the #1 issue for everyone today) he is light years ahead of the Clinton/Gore/Kerry mentality on defense and proactivity of taking care of business in the war on terrorists. If national security goes to shit because the guy in charge has his focus on less important issues, all the other issues could become pretty irrelevent. The entire world faces a greater threat today than in any time in history just because of the level of technology that in the wrong hands could be a massive problem that man has never encountered in prior wars and disagreements. It is no longer who's got the best army or the baddest tanks and ships, it is whos got the loose cannon nukes and bio agents and a covert way to deliver them on the masses. That's what the war on terror is all about. 911 while a horrible event, is like comparing a candle to a brush fire as far as what a successful multi-city nuclear attack by terrorists could achieve.
Disregarding all other issues (that in my mind being the most important one) I'll take Bush over Kerry by a longshot for dealing with the protection of our country against these very "real" threats.
That is my monthly allocation of political rant.... :D

[JustMVG]

That i believe MR Rexone is your total allotment of word for the rest of this month, i have not seen R1 write that much, someone struck a chord in that man, Kerry and Edwards just seem like bad Vacuum Sales folks in the midwest, oh well a Bush vote from me. He's a kick ass kinda guy and some folks don't know how to take that, Clinton was a wordy MF and Bush one seem to have things in control but not like Bush Jr. Reagan had all the qualuties of a great President, wit, charm looks and smarts too, helluvaguy, Miss Him. Mike VG

[OGShocker]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Don't drop the soap. Most of the guys in here will be drooling over you like a new Vette with this topic. If OG asks you to ride in his boat after this don't wear spandex.
Is that the best you can do?:rolleyes:

[Rexone]

Originally posted by MandMVG
That i believe MR Rexone is your total allotment of word for the rest of this month, i have not seen R1 write that much
You don't frequent Bench Racers much I take it... :D

[bigq]

Originally posted by OGShocker
Is that the best you can do?:rolleyes:
OG is your boat up for sale or sold. i thought i saw it in the boat trader?

[JustMVG]

Originally posted by Rexone
You don't frequent Bench Racers much I take it... :D
I got nuthin to race!!!:D
MVG

[Rexone]

Originally posted by MandMVG
I got nuthin to race!!!:D
MVG
Well you should fit in there pretty nicely then. :D

[v-drive]

I never realized until last night how much better Bush and Chaney are. From the beginning I thought Kerry was a waste but felt Edwards was a force to be reckoned with.
Last night he proved to be(IMHO) a bigger ass and manipulator than Kerry could ever hope to be. When he blamed the republicans for dirty politics I was speechless and the things he started promising were unattainable in the seeable future. Oh yeah I forgot, to cover their ass all he agreed to was that hope was on the way. :mad: v-drive
Hey Azdon, are you really that stupid?

[OGShocker]

Originally posted by bigq
OG is your boat up for sale or sold. i thought i saw it in the boat trader?
No, not ours.
The one you see belongs to a guy named Rod. Rod has 7 kids with another on the way. I think he is done boating for now;)

[rrrr]

Originally posted by v-drive
I never realized until last night how much better Bush and Chaney are. From the beginning I thought Kerry was a waste but felt Edwards was a force to be reckoned with.
Last night he proved to be(IMHO) a bigger ass and manipulator than Kerry could ever hope to be. When he blamed the republicans for dirty politics I was speechless and the things he started promising were unattainable in the seeable future. Oh yeah I forgot, to cover their ass all he agreed to was that hope was on the way. :mad: v-drive
Hey Azdon, are you really that stupid?
A heard a sound bite from Edward's speech this morning. Something about the neighbors daughter wants to go to college, hope is on the way. EFF that. If you want to go to college then work part time and take out loans, then PAY THEM BACK.
I hear that shlt and my blood boils. Ten percent of the population pays ninety percent of the taxes. Fifty percent of the freeloaders pay four percent of the taxes.
The Democrat party makes those promises on the backs of people that work and contribute. It's really easy to vote for someone that promises you FREE health insurance, FREE college, FREE this and that, "living wage" cr*p......
Kerry has the balls to say he's gonna stop global warming, he and his wife ride around in a Gulfstream V that burns over 1,500 gallons of fuel per hour. They keep five multimillion dollar homes heated and air conditioned year round.
He's a hypocrictical azzhole.

[v-drive]

yeah, right hope is on the way. put hope in one hand and a pile of crap in the other and see what you've got.
I hope this crap don't stink!.............v-drive

[572Daytona]

I listened to a bit of Edwards speech last nite and I felt as if I was being sued and the jury was about to award a judgement against me in the form of higher taxes (as if I don't pay enough already). He keeps bragging about how his dad was working class and was able to set enough aside to send him to college, so why can't anyone?

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by dmontzsta
but here is one thing I have noticed and maybe some of you might agree and/or disagree and (set me straight a little).
Kerry reminds me of Clinton and if this is true, personally Clinton did nothing in my books, he was out of sight out of mind (we know why).
Bush doesnt take any shit, he just goes knocking people out. (My kind of guy!)
Am I crazy? :)
Kerry is a lot like Clinton, but he has a track record of views and activities that is further to the left.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

The thing that truly amazes me is how can anyone believe that when Kerry wins, I won't votre for him but I believe he will win, all of sudden everything will be better off? That won't happen. He won't do any better of a job than Bush is already doing. And we all know for certain that he will raise our taxes, how can anyone working person that derives no benefit from the social programs approve of that???

[1978 Rogers]

Kerry promises to bring jobs back to the US from over sees. It's a free market. Labor is cheaper outside the United States. Is he going to subsidize manufacturing. Americans don't want to pay more for a product if they don't have to. How the hell can he bring oversea jobs back to the USA without tax payers flipping the bill? :confused:
It is the Capitolistic way. Charge more and have it built for less.

[Ducatista]

Thank God the vomitorium(DNC) is almost over! The mens hair club of flip-flop & mop-top, with those Sunday morning preachers make me sick. Bush gets my vote.:)

[Havasu Cig]

Originally posted by Havasu_Dreamin
The thing that truly amazes me is how can anyone believe that when Kerry wins, I won't votre for him but I believe he will win, all of sudden everything will be better off? That won't happen. He won't do any better of a job than Bush is already doing. And we all know for certain that he will raise our taxes, how can anyone working person that derives no benefit from the social programs approve of that???
Because people are stupid!!
My neighbor owns a fairly large plumbing business and is conservative but his wife hates bush and wants Kerry to be the next President.
You would think, being business owners, that she would not want somebody in office that is going to raise their taxes. She hates Bush so much though it does not matter to her. And to top it off she has no reason to hate Bush, she just does. Typical stupid bitch that sits home all day watching soap operas while her husband is out busting his ass.
I have found when you talk to most liberals and ask them to articulate their reasons for not liking Bush they can't. They just "don't like him".:rolleyes:

[totenhosen]

One thing that I hate about both parties is the continued finger pointing. For example Kerry says Bush handled the war in Iraq wrong but does not gives us a solution or any idea of how he would ahve done things. If you knock the way someone does something you better have an asnwer that includes what you would have done not just I'm a better man.

[spectratoad]

Originally posted by dmontzsta
Bush for president and shit...I think...I probably wont end up voting again just like last year, the year before and the year before over and over again. :eek:
Glad you like Bush and would vote for him and please don't take offense but if the voting comment is true your complaints don't hold much water anyway.;)
Yes Kerry is like Slik Willie and like him also idolizes JFK. If you will notice Kerry's life and actions have somewhat paralleled JFK.

[spectratoad]

Also Kerry keeps promising all this stuff for taxes, healthcare, the military etc...
Why is it that he has to be President to do this stuff? He couldn't get the ball rolling as a senator? I am confused.
One of his ads states that he will ensure that the citizens have access to the same healthcare package as Congress. That is totally free isn't it? Why does he have to be Prez to get this going?

[058]

I support anything the liberals are against. The more the left hates Bush the more I support him. It it interesting that the libs hate Bush but can't explain why. It is more interesting to listen to these people make promises they cannot keep. It is also interesting to listen to them critizise but offer no solution the the problem. I guess if you aren't part of the solution then you must be part of the problem.

[v-drive]

Hey, just remember, hope is on the way. :D v-drive

[dmontzsta]

Bush for President.
Lets keep taking out these terrorists before they kill more people, instead of hiding from it and waiting.

[v-drive]

Hey D, Register and vote.............v-drive
Also, look at what a class act Laura Bush is. I look at Kerry's wife and I see Mean bitch all over her face and probably to many martinis while i'm thinking about it

[Rexone]

Any of you remember Clintons bs in 92 bout health care... first 100 days this and first 100 days that. Blah, blah blah blah blah friggin blah. All campaign bs. Problem was that he fooled alot of people into thinkin it could happen cause he's an "excellent" speaker. I hear the same ol shit comin here and I ain't buyin. I was taught as a youngster, if it seems to good to be true, it ain't true. Kerry and his trial lawyer pretty boy budd have no magic wand to wave and make everything glorious. They're tryin to be "Clinton" quality speakers but they're not. Kerry trys to speak like JFK but he ain't JFK. And they got an old stale message, blaming everything on the republicans when in fact most of what they talk about (in the rare instant when they actually touch on an issue) went to shit under a dem presidents admin.
ok now I'm way over my political limit for the month. :D

[dmontzsta]

Originally posted by v-drive
Hey D, Register and vote.............v-drive
Also, look at what a class act Laura Bush is. I look at Kerry's wife and I see Mean bitch all over her face and probably to many martinis while i'm thinking about it
I actually am registered, just dont know what place to go vote, I have to find out cause Bush gets my vote.

[Rexone]

They will mail your polling place to you with your sample ballot prior to the election. :) No guessing required. :D

[v-drive]

Everyone should watch Kerry and crew tonight. I have always voted for the best person for the job in my life. Sometimes that wasn't republican but for the most part it has been and I can honestly say that if Kerry gets into office he will do a disservice to this country. If you know anyone that is undecided take it upon yourself to help them make the best decision.
John Kerry makes me proud to be a Republican.
:D v-drive

[eliminatedsprinter]

So far I've heard Kerry's wife say he will "reverse global warming" and last night I heard Edwards say he would "create 10,000,000 jobs. Who can believe such silly claims from a politician who should no dam'n well that the prez dosn't have the power to do either. What are they going to claim next? a seat in heaven (or 72 virgins) for those who vote for them?????

[058]

If he creates 10 million new jobs does that mean I can not be self-employed anymore? Maybe he is going to send all of us to the gulag or the concentration camps.

[Rexone]

Originally posted by 058
Maybe he is going to send all of us to the gulag or the concentration camps.
Look at the bright side 058 we'll all have free health care and food.

[gnarley]

It’s interesting reading what others think, but most don’t say why they think the way they do and back it up with facts. Some people think others vote the way they do because they are stupid. Some people vote the way they do because they are absolutely positive something is going to happen. I wish I were that sure about some things. If I were so sure about certain things I would be a psychic and go to Vegas. I don’t believe half the crap any of the politicians say, most of it is just pure rhetoric. Clinton promised a lot of things and couldn’t get them done, Bush has done similar and tried to portray himself as someone he isn’t, it’s all about trying to suck in the undecided voters.
When push comes to shove what did any of the former presidents really do that helped or hurt the country? Forget about what they said; what did they do that made us a better or worse country than before they took office? Did they tax the hell out of us? Did they spend so much we will be paying off that debit for years to come, long after they have left office?
No matter who is in the Office of President we all will pay more either by helping the helpless or paying off a national debit from overspending.
So why do you vote the way you do? Do you vote party lines? Do you vote the way you do because you feel that the party you are aligned with supports your beliefs better?
Personally I am disgusted with the current political system and the lies both parties feed to us working class non politicians. After all how many politicians send their children to war? I am not just talking about this war. They let those with less to loose go do the dirty work and die for our country and make it sound real good but do you think they would send their own? Both parties are full of two faced politicians that say one thing and do another and if you listen long enough you hear all of them contradict themselves.
I am way tired of the finger pointing and they are all dirty as far as I am concerned!
I dislike Bush and am afraid of Kerry
I wish we had better choices.

[Lake Pirate]

There's always Nader? He makes Cheney look like an American.

[v-drive]

What you are saying is 100% true, and we don't have the luxury of having someone else to choose from. I voted for Clinton first time around because George sr. I felt was completely ignoring us. He confirmed that towards the end by saying, ok i've got the message. For me it was just to late. I voted for Jr. because I knew he was going to screw up but the man never changed his tune no matter how bad it has gotten. I don't remember him making the statements that Kerry and Edwards have made.
He felt he was doing the right thing by going into Iraq as I am sure alot of us did. What about vietnam? That was a democratic cluster F. of huge proportions but they don't want to hear about that. Bush is going to screw up it comes with the job.
v-drive