Gelcoat... ..final answer?>:eek:

[Charley]

First of All... I don't see alot of people doing this so if this is rude or uncool to be doing this, I'll apologize in advance........ Gel coats are forever and I don't wanna blow it. I'm posting this here to my Cat's and Tunnels brotherhood and I'm looking for honest opinions so thoughts and suggestions, good or bad are certainly welcome....... On my last boat I was stuck between going with a Blue or yellow orange Fade and the wife and I literally flipped a coin one day.. blue won...... I really wanted that Orange boat so... That part of the boat is set ;) The colors translated are a Orange is a 1/2 tangerine 1/2 Burnt Orange mix to Burn't Orange Fade and a medium Gray to Charcoal grey fade with metallic pearl.....Pins I'm not sure about.... maybe platinum.... The lines in the motor hatch are not the design I want, it was a last minute fill and will likely be an interior design in the padded deck.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinions... everytime I think I know what to do I wake up more confused!:eek: :eek:
PS Toby.... if you like it ;):D
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/381_002-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/381_001-med.jpg

[Hustler]

Go with it Charley, I think it's bad ass

[Toomstone]

make the grey a blue fade:D

[Havasu Hangin']

I like it. I wonder how that would look on the Cig?
How about vinyl? That way when you change your mind...

[Bre]

If we were to ever have the money for a DCB I would hope we could get a gel scheme that is unlike everyone elses. To me that looks like everyone elses cat right now. The top looks different... but the sides are the same as every other boat, just diff colors. I don't like the colors on the hatch too much..but I don't hate it so???? Like the colors orange and grey though:p So there's our .02 :eek: :D

[Kilrtoy]

What Bre said is true,
The wife and I think it is bad ass, but we also agree, make the grey a blue and it will be off the hook,
It is hard to come up with your own, never, ever, ever, done before paint job.
The few minor tweaks you did will be unique to you guys LOOKS GREAT. Im sure the fades will be off the hook...

[Kilrtoy]

Charley, This is what we are talking about...
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111dcbboats44-med.jpg

[Charley]

WOW!!! When I first saw that boat at Daves shop I wasn't sure if I liked it, but when I saw it in the Sun and running it seemed alot more in it's place!:cool:

[Charley]

Originally posted by Bre
If we were to ever have the money for a DCB I would hope we could get a gel scheme that is unlike everyone elses. To me that looks like everyone elses cat right now. The top looks different... but the sides are the same as every other boat, just diff colors. I don't like the colors on the hatch too much..but I don't hate it so???? Like the colors orange and grey though:p So there's our .02 :eek: :D
Bre you are right the hatch isn't what it needs to be...please ignore that part...
Part of the reason I went with Grey is because you don't see it with Orange alot..I am Trying to be different..Deano's old 29 is the only one that comes to mind... DCB's F decks have alot of contours and humps to them so some gel schemes just dont seem to work (my opinion)..... The rounded swoops on the back of the boat really seem to work( Klugmans boat is a good example ;)
This is why I'm fighting with myself on it... I want it to be unique but then again why totally change what works... I'd rather have it bitchen and beautiful than ugly and unique. or would I?? I'm confuse lol
Please keep it flowin
:D

[Charley]

Originally posted by Havasu Hangin'
I like it. I wonder how that would look on the Cig?
How about vinyl? That way when you change your mind...
Thanks man
I've been told by the owner of DCB, My best friend (works at DCB) and My wife that vinyl would be a mistake
personally.... I like the idea but I fear it would be an upstream swim ;)

[Kilrtoy]

Bad pic , but this boat has some awesome grey, I know you already know that
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111P1010136-med.JPG

[Charley]

I'm Sorry... IS there a boat in that picture? :D
I forgot about the strip in the middle... I guess I should rephrase
Just Orange and Grey ;)

[TOBTEK]

Looks really good....BUT like Bre said, there has been a lot done recently pretty close to that. Spending that much money, you HAVE TO do something WAY different. But its real hard coming up with that design. What about spending a few bucks and getting a graphic designer to draw up some ideas?

[Charley]

hmmmm..... I would do that.... but id hate to pay and then hate the idea.... you know Roz had some badass ideas for my last boat hmm hmmm...

[TOBTEK]

Originally posted by Charley
hmmmm..... I would do that.... but id hate to pay and then hate the idea.... you know Roz had some badass ideas for my last boat hmm hmmm...
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/135BOAT_GRAPHICS_1.jpg
I spoted this today and saved it, some variation of this would look good on matching new 26 & 29's;)

[6 Dollar Boat]

I agree that this design resembles many of the other F29s that were made this year. I have seen a LOT of orange on many of the new DCB's. I'm not saying that is bad, but I would prefer to stand out a little if I could spend that kind of cash. Good luck Charley...
6$...not haten, just givin' my .02

[Kilrtoy]

I forgot about the strip in the middle
Was she wearing that see thru bikini again:eek:

[Charley]

Originally posted by TOBTEK
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/135BOAT_GRAPHICS_1.jpg
I spoted this today and saved it, some variation of this would look good on matching new 26 & 29's;)
Ironically enough.... This is one of the about 100 8.5 x 11 different prints I made of gel schemes.... It's pretty cool , but what makes it cool is the grey fade into white.... I would be afraid to do that in Gel coat.... paint ...sure
Originally posted by 6 Dollar Boat
I agree that this design resembles many of the other F29s that were made this year. I have seen a LOT of orange on many of the new DCB's. I'm not saying that is bad, but I would prefer to stand out a little if I could spend that kind of cash. Good luck Charley...
6$...not haten, just givin' my .02
I know man... I'm lookin for feedback...Thanks!
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I forgot about the strip in the middle
Was she wearing that see thru bikini again:eek:
LMAO!!

[XtrmWakeborder]

Maybe some checkers in there would finish it off nicely lol j/k....I personally like the orange and grey, but to me in the side view the middle of the boat is showing to much white. I like the simple gel scemes, but the bright orange on both ends kinda makes the white in the middle stand out. Good luck with the design

[welk2party]

Looks a lot like the hairless kitty!

[Charley]

Originally posted by welk2party
Looks a lot like the hairless kitty!
.... alot alike?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/381_002-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/719our_29_cat_044-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/381_001-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/38249v1-med.jpg

[WetWillie]

Charley,
I agree it looks great!! But it also looks allot like what Dave has been pumping out lately which is not a bad thing! Someone said it in this thread. Think simpler.. I actually like something a little more subtle. Maybe flip the colors in some spots were you would have normal color? Orange is hot right now so don’t think you can go wrong.
Start a new trend? Have Educator help you he is pretty talented at this stuff.
Sorry if I made no sense I don’t envy your position. Hell what am I saying of course I do!!.
WW
Here are the colors together..
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/508/1419GT_s_Howard.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/7204blingbow.jpg

[XtrmWakeborder]

Hell yah bass boat style..is metal flake coming back?

[boatnam2]

damm charley we must of had the same coin.mine went into the mold monday tangerine to burnt orange flame fade dealio with a gray to gray fade flame dealio behind it.of course its not a dcb but as long as it spanks racing raskals thats all i care about!

[Charley]

Originally posted by boatnam2
damm charley we must of had the same coin.mine went into the mold monday tangerine to burnt orange flame fade dealio with a gray to gray fade flame dealio behind it.of course its not a dcb but as long as it spanks racing raskals thats all i care about!
LMAO!!! Poor Andy.. Everyone seems to be after that guy!
Hey botnam... post some pics of yer pencil/working drawings on this thread.... I'd be curious ;)
Thanks for the input
:D ;)

[Havasu Hangin']

Originally posted by Charley
Hey botnam... post some pics of yer pencil/working drawings on this thread.... I'd be curious ;)
Charley- boatnam (AKA- boatman) doesn't even use punctuation (must be a Parker thing)...not sure how he's gonna post a pic.
As for Andy...the word on the street is that he duct-taped that thing back together and it might even be floating!
PS- Even there are a couple others with a similar pattern...I think it works well with the lines of the boat (hatch area). Don't listen to those DCB guys on vinyl...they probably think it needs to be applied with zip-ties!

[ROZ]

Originally posted by Charley
hmmmm..... I would do that.... but id hate to pay and then hate the idea.... you know Roz had some badass ideas for my last boat hmm hmmm...
Since your boat will be a screamer, I still think an aggressive, fine tipped, elongated hazzardous wate symbol would be SICK with some of the points raking mid/low at the front with the other end of the tips and round curves filing up the rear top to bottom fron the start of the canopies back :) Other segmented swoops in your favorite colors can be mixed into the back ground... I've drawn it and like it:D
RadioActive would work , too ;)
I agree with what Bre said. Like tribal flames, the standard swoops are becomming commonplace...

[Charley]

Originally posted by Havasu Hangin'
Charley- boatnam (AKA- boatman) doesn't even use punctuation (must be a Parker thing)...not sure how he's gonna post a pic.
As for Andy...the word on the street is that he duct-taped that thing back together and it might even be floating!
PS- Even there are a couple others with a similar pattern...I think it works well with the lines of the boat (hatch area). Don't listen to those DCB guys on vinyl...they probably think it needs to be applied with zip-ties!
I really did fall on the floor that time :D ... I swear I have a picture of one of the DCB boys rigging a boat with a www.zipties.com shirt on.;)
Originally posted by ROZ
Since your boat will be a screamer, I still think an aggressive, fine tipped, elongated hazzardous wate symbol would be SICK with some of the points raking mid/low at the front with the other end of the tips and round curves filing up the rear top to bottom fron the start of the canopies back :) Other segmented swoops in your favorite colors can be mixed into the back ground... I've drawn it and like it:D
RadioActive would work , too ;)
I agree with what Bre said. Like tribal flames, the standard swoops are becomming commonplace...
Ya... but the swoops have staying power.... or so it seems.... you are right whatever I come up with will get dated... Maybe I should go White witha silver stripe down the middle :D :D :D
Actually on that note I asked the wife one day if she would poop her panties if I went with an all yellow boat with a Racer X theme too it! ... I liked Speed racer and all but hes kind of a pussy compared to his mysterious big brother LMAO :D

[Charley]

LINES LOOK FAMILIAR!! I wonder if Dave was a speedracer fan as a kid??? ;) Look at the black vents in the rear quarters...LMAO
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/2b/f9/11_2.JPG
Hey this guys got some potential
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/ATA/1707BP.jpg

[boatnam2]

havasu hangin i can hardly spell and type let alone worry about frigging puncuation.if i make a post and someone can sorta understand it im happy.charley i turned the only drawing in to lavey's gel coater and threw away the rest no second guessing from us.it wil be out in 3 weeks i will take a pic(if it looks good).

[unleashed]

Come on Charley, Step up and suprise us. Dont go with the flow!
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com)

[Charley]

See what this shit does to me!!! I start lookin around the internet on Racer x and I drop $57 on a frickin shirt!
http://gorillanation.studiostore.com/images/p/SPR/pzSHSPR0003.jpg
Originally posted by boatnam2
charley i turned the only drawing in to lavey's gel coater and threw away the rest no second guessing from us.it wil be out in 3 weeks i will take a pic(if it looks good).
Thats cool man... Lavey makes a great boat and the gel coats always seem to be special/unique.... Cant wait to see her man and good luck!:D ... definitely post tons of pics!
Originally posted by unleashed
Come on Charley, Step up and suprise us. Dont go with the flow!
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com)
Yer boat turned out nice.. maybe I'll just steal yer shit LMAO... I know how open you are to sharing schemes....hehe :cool:

[HavasuDreamin']

IMHO....not that it matters LOL.......I think the swoops are the current "pink and teal" .....ie: fad. I like a simpler scheme, one that follows the lines of the hull. You don't see that too much any more. Gel lines that follow the contours of the hull will never go out of style.
You said you like the swoop at the back of the boat.........why not leave the swoops off towards the front similar to the picture tobtek posted.......ie: straight up front going into a swoop at the rear of the hull.
I do like the DCB Racing logo down the center of the deck. :cool: The only other thing I would consider is a base color other than white. Only problem with this is you either nail it and it looks killer or you don't and it looks like sh*t. :eek: I thought the red/black over the base gray F-29 with twin teague 800's was an awesome color combo. That is what I am talking about. Just my $.02
Good Luck.

[Charley]

Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
IMHO....not that it matters LOL.......I think the swoops are the current "pink and teal" .....ie: fad. I like a simpler scheme, one that follows the lines of the hull. You don't see that too much any more. Gel lines that follow the contours of the hull will never go out of style.
You said you like the swoop at the back of the boat.........why not leave the swoops off towards the front similar to the picture tobtek posted.......ie: straight up front going into a swoop at the rear of the hull.
I do like the DCB Racing logo down the center of the deck. :cool: The only other thing I would consider is a base color other than white. Only problem with this is you either nail it and it looks killer or you don't and it looks like sh*t. :eek: I thought the red/black over the base gray F-29 with twin teague 800's was an awesome color combo. That is what I am talking about. Just my $.02
Good Luck.
Thanks man.... I'm gonna try something like that on a fresh piece of paper tonight :D

[XtrmWakeborder]

LOL It would be kinda tight to see your racer x theme and the skater 28 "speed racer" run together at a poker run

[boatnam2]

i was really leaning towards a red, black with some gray but seen a conquest the weekend before i turned in my graphics i wasnt really into the scheme on water.looked go on paper though!

[new F29]

That looks great. Robert

[XtrmWakeborder]

hey charley do you have any blank outlines of the boat?

[Jrocket]

Solid white hull,black outlined cannopies,and a huge WATER NAZI sticker down the side......its just an idea I guess.
Oh and a machine gun somewhere on the bow.:D

[Charley]

Originally posted by Jrocket
Solid white hull,black outlined cannopies,and a huge WATER NAZI sticker down the side......its just an idea I guess.
Oh and a machine gun somewhere on the bow.:D
You Dick...LMAO:D

[Charley]

Originally posted by new F29
That looks great. Robert
Thankyou.... New 29?? what are you doin?

[mbrown2]

Looks good and will be easy to sell later.....If you want to go off the hook, I would get a graphic designer, or have h20skifast do a design...I remember the one he did for the hairless Kitty was pretty trick...

[TheEduKATor]

Charely,
I like the long lines as well. I hope you don't mind but I played with your design a little on the first drawing. I did another drawing with the same design as the first and switched the grey swooshes to blue but I can't get it to upload it says the files corrupted.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550drawing1-small2.jpg
On the second drawing I left the front open leading to swooshes in the back.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign5-small.jpg

[HavasuDreamin']

I like that bottom boat's scheme...........except I would turn the blue swoosh the other way.....upside down if you will so the line heading towards the bow is up top near the rubrail.
Again........good luck. This has to be without a doubt the hardest part.
HD

[79 HUSTLER]

Originally posted by Bre
Like the colors orange and grey though:p So there's our .02 :eek: :D
Can't go wrong with the orange and grey, but shhhhhh don't let everyone know :D :D :D

[Charley]

Originally posted by TheEduKATor
Charely,
I like the long lines as well. I hope you don't mind but I played with your design a little on the first drawing. I did another drawing with the same design as the first and switched the grey swooshes to blue but I can't get it to upload it says the files corrupted.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550drawing1-small2.jpg
On the second drawing I left the front open leading to swooshes in the back.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign5-small.jpg
WOW,
Thats pretty Nice...You really are talented! I wonder what you might do with the one I came up with Last night ;).... Thank you very much for the effort! I absolutely love it... btw what program are you rendering with?

[TheEduKATor]

Charley,
I did the rendering with mostly photoshop and a little bit of illustrator for the outlines. If you have your drawing scanned just send it and I'll see what I can do.

[TheEduKATor]

Here's one more with the blue flipped as HH suggested.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg

[HavasuDreamin']

That is killer right there! Nice Job Edukator.
PS........HD.......not HH. LOL :D
:cool:

[TheEduKATor]

Sorry about that "HD" at least I read everything else on your post correctly :D
By the way good call on the flip.

[hd&boatrider]

I am just curious as to the choice of orange. last time I was out at LHC I could not believe the amount of boats with Orange/Tangerine on them. Especially Magics....Just seems to be tons of them these days. Keep in mind I can't even pick out carpet or paint color at home. I did not even choose my colors for my boat either.
What is up with the orange/tangerine these days?

[TOBTEK]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg
thats pretty HOT!
id loose the little spike of orange under the canopy, and maybe wrap orange down off the front sponson towards the rear, and that would also wrap on to the top deck......just in idea:) this is the best so far IMO.

[THOR]

I like the bottom drawing myself. Also, I am a tad partial to orange and blue. ;)

[HavasuDreamin']

Originally posted by hd&boatrider
I am just curious as to the choice of orange. last time I was out at LHC I could not believe the amount of boats with Orange/Tangerine on them.
What is up with the orange/tangerine these days?
Well, IMO.........I think orange really looks good on the water. It has always been one of my favorite "boat" colors. I loved the yellow and orange schemes of the early 80's and I liked the orange and blue schemes that weren't real common but on more than one boat in the late 80's / early 90's. It just looks good always.
Good Luck Charley........I think you have some good concepts to go with now.
HD. :cool:

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

wow Charley.. they all look great.. I like all of them.. ;)

[andy01]

I would stay with the grey and orange. Or maybe add some blue if you wanted blue. Blue to me doesn't look that good on the water. But what do I know everything I own is red. I think the deck looks great, I know the hatch isn't done but I would put a lot of color on the hatch. I think the sides in front should have some color on them as well, not just the back sweeping forward. my .0002
Andy

[BoatFloating]

I can tell you that the EduKator does great work. i asked him to change a couple colors around and fell in love with it.....
Charley, all the designs look good I like the one below. As long as you paint the name "Mr. Big" on the back ;)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550drawing1-small2.jpg

[TheEduKATor]

TOBTEK, here's one with a few changes. I'll try one without the orange under the canopy when I get back tonight.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign7-small.jpg

[TOBTEK]

Originally posted by TheEduKATor
TOBTEK, here's one with a few changes. I'll try one without the orange under the canopy when I get back tonight.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign7-small.jpg
I was thinking more wraping the orange&blue accents on the front sponson up on to the top, and only the bottom sides, not tieing it into the orange from the back in the middle atall keeping the two seperate...if you know what I mean. And loose the small SPIKE/flame or what ever you want to call it on the orange stripe, mid way up BY the windshield... your doing an awesome job BTW...I know who im call someday when I need help with the design work.:)http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign5-small.jpg

[ROZ]

Originally posted by TheEduKATor
Here's one more with the blue flipped as HH suggested.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg
This is perfect. It's a classic with a little Umph.... Keep the bottom of the front sponsons clean... A nice combo of the same color on the deck between the sponsons would be sweet!!!
Good job Mr. ED. :D

[RiverDave]

Charley, your 1st design was "ok" but I thought it looked alot like some of the other boats I've seen..
A few of those Edukator put up are pretty gawd damn trick though.. I think I'd pick it from one of these two..
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550drawing1-small2.jpg
I like this one a little better, but where the white swoosh thingy comes up in the back I think I'd make it just a hair fatter towards the transom. I'd keep it more to the geometry of the Orange one coming down.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg

[BADAXE]

Just thought I'd add my two cents.
I would try some designs that places less emphasis on the hump in the rear. The one thing I notice about all those designs is they make the boat look like it is going down hill. they do a great job of showing off the lines of the hull but toward the rear actually over emphase the hump. IMHO leaving the rear hump area white might level out the whole design of the boat. in other words just move the whole rear area of the design lower on the boat leaving a little white at the top. Then the other benefit is you don't have to worry about the design running into your engine cover.

[LAPII]

Just my .01, bottom sketch looks real nice.

[Jrocket]

Originally posted by Charley
You Dick...LMAO:D
What....whad I say?:D

[Bling Bling]

Originally posted by Charley
[B]I really did fall on the floor that time :D ... I swear I have a picture of one of the DCB boys rigging a boat with a www.zipties.com shirt on.;)
Ya... but the swoops have staying power.... or so it seems.... you are right whatever I come up with will get dated... Maybe I should go White witha silver stripe down the middle :D :D :D
Better yet, all white with an air brushed mural of Tatto from fantasy island on the bow of the boat.

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

Originally posted by Bling Bling
Better yet, all white with an air brushed mural of Tatto from fantasy island on the bow of the boat.
don't forget the back of the boat has to say..
Zee plain Zee plain.. :D :D

[BoatFloating]

Originally posted by Bling Bling
Better yet, all white with an air brushed mural of Tatto from fantasy island on the bow of the boat.
Hey don't be crazy..... Tatoo is at least a foot taller than Mr. Big;)

[DCB]

Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
don't forget the back of the boat has to say..
Zee plain Zee plain.. :D :D
That's a good one Mrs V.

[WetWillie]

I told you he had skills!!. Those renderings are incredible! I wish I knew Photoshop. You should be supplementing that teachers pay with some design work..;)
WW

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

Originally posted by DCB
That's a good one Mrs V. LOL!! thanks.. how is my Kitty doin out of her domain.. :( :D :D
don't forget to give her a kiss and a hug before you leave for the night.. :D

[TheEduKATor]

RD, something more like this top one? I fattened up the back white area and tried to make it flow a little more with the orange swoosh coming down.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign8-small.jpg
You can see the difference compared to this first one.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg

[HavasuDreamin']

Edukator.........each one is better. Now it is a question of whether Mr. Big thinks it looks like sh*t or not.......LOL. :D

[new F29]

Charley, Love all those choices. Mine is coming out of the mold this week, I think. White base, Green, yellow & platinum. Similar to my current 26'. Mainly like many current designs. Teague 800's detuned w/sc drives. Robert

[WetWillie]

I hear your 26 may be up for sale here soon. DO you have any pictures
WW

[new F29]

I do have digital pictures. I can post them if someone can explain how this is done.

[WetWillie]

tekworks@san.rr.com Send them over and I will post them!
;)

[WetWillie]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/318DSCN2261small.jpg

[Charley]

Thats a Nice lookin boat!
hey Educator.... I sent you a PM of another "wilder" idea lol
I'm Afraid :D

[WetWillie]

Office?
WW

[WetWillie]

Do something crazy like Yellow and Blue!:rolleyes:
WW
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/318DSC00791.jpg

[Charley]

I attached 5... u didnt get?
I'll upload em, send ya links...its easier sometimes!Originally posted by WetWillie
Office?
WW

[locogringo]

Charley, check your PM

[Charley]

Great minds are thinkin alike Loco ;)

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

so Charley have you decided what you like.. they all look great.. ;)

[Charley]

Thank you sweety... you are so super cool
The only thing Ive decided is that deciding on a gel coat is way more fricked stress than it should be!:(

[castaway]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign6-small.jpg [/B][/QUOTE]
i like this one the best... it seems like when you leave the design open at the front it elongates the look of the boat... i feel your pain though...this is by far the hardest part in buying a new boat.

[castaway]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/550finaldesign8-small.jpg
actually i like this one just a little better...

[Lightning]

I personally would go for a dove grey base with bright red where you have the grey.
I would not have the "dcbracing.com" on the top in the center.
The side has a rather large empty area, maybe fill that in with another color or pattern (a skelton throwing up the shocker)- or a huge F29.

[locogringo]

Originally posted by Charley
Great minds are thinkin alike Loco ;)
well I don't know how great you think my mind is, it may be a detrimental statement implied back on you...LOL!