Need to know what cascade model should I run

[FORCEINU]

I'm running 4 optimas blue tops and running 6 12"subs and 4 6x9 with a total of 4000 watts and want to know if the honda eu2000 will handle good with this set-up where can a get a cascade 75 or 90 !!!

[Phat Matt]

I run the aps75. 14 speakers, 4 amps, 1 battery.

[1manshow]

I run the aps75. 14 speakers, 4 amps, 1 battery.
MATT, Do you have to run your generator all day long or only when playing the stereo at high levels?? By the way thanks for the lead on the generator mounts, i got them from larry at eticket last week. Also what do you do to keep your main boat batteries topped off since your aps75 is not hooked up to them??

[Phat Matt]

MATT, Do you have to run your generator all day long or only when playing the stereo at high levels?? By the way thanks for the lead on the generator mounts, i got them from larry at eticket last week. Also what do you do to keep your main boat batteries topped off since your aps75 is not hooked up to them??
If I am parked, I turn it on. I only play my boat at high levels. :D The starting batteries are just for starting. I run my boat every weekend just about.
The way it is rigged up I can charge all three batteries if I want.

[1manshow]

If I am parked, I turn it on. I only play my boat at high levels. :D The starting batteries are just for starting. I run my boat every weekend just about.
The way it is rigged up I can charge all three batteries if I want.
Matt, Can you explain more on how you can charge all three batteries if you want?? i would like to hook mine up the same . thanks joe

[Phat Matt]

Matt, Can you explain more on how you can charge all three batteries if you want?? i would like to hook mine up the same . thanks joe
I have 2 different switches and an electronic solenoid hooked up. Eticket got on the phone with Cascade Audio and did the install.
Call cascade audio.
www.cascadeaudio.com
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[Phat Matt]

I have a hard time believing that a generator setup and a 75 amp power supply will keep up with 4000 watts. I looked into this same setup and came away thinking it won't work. I'm running the following:
(2) Kicker SX900.2 (1100 watts per on the birth certificate)
(2) Kicker SX700.4 (850 watts per)
(1) Kicker SX400.2 (500 watts)
So, that's about 4400 watts at full output. This weekend, I ran my system pretty hard. I have a built in amp meter that was showing my system drawing between 90-140 amps at full output. A 75 amp power supply would help a little, but it certainly wouldn't keep up with the demand of 4000 watts.
I have 2 1200.1 watt mono amps, 1 200.4 and 1 100.4. It's been playing since October without using anything else than the genny to keep the charge up.

[Mr. Naudio]

I have a hard time believing that a generator setup and a 75 amp power supply will keep up with 4000 watts. I looked into this same setup and came away thinking it won't work. I'm running the following:
(2) Kicker SX900.2 (1100 watts per on the birth certificate)
(2) Kicker SX700.4 (850 watts per)
(1) Kicker SX400.2 (500 watts)
So, that's about 4400 watts at full output. This weekend, I ran my system pretty hard. I have a built in amp meter that was showing my system drawing between 90-140 amps at full output. A 75 amp power supply would help a little, but it certainly wouldn't keep up with the demand of 4000 watts.
that big stinger batt 2150 amps is placed between the charger (power supply)
and the amps and is used as a buffer as long as he starts gen when listening to stereo from the begining should go all day.
I think :cool:

[Mr. Naudio]

I obviously understand the premise, but you can't squeeze blood from a turnip. My system draws between 100-140 amps when it's at "sandbar level." A 75 amp power supply will make, and I'm just spit balling here, 75 amps.
agreed that you know your chit learned alot just reading your post.
the 75 amps from the power supply is added to the 2150 amps from the bat
witch is being charged at the 75 amp rate
like having your engine running with an alternator.
really just home not feeling that great today but cant shut the stereo side of the brain off

[Sotally Tober]

John, sounds like you are right to me, but what do I know? I belive you can parellel the chargers. Maybe 2 55's or2 75's. I know you can link 2 Iotas. There is some special link to put between them, You will need a bigger generator though than the 2000w Honda. At your rate, by stacking amps on top of another now, you might want to pull a barge with one of those Cat diesel sub stations. You could crank it for days!

[Sotally Tober]

For your boat make sure it is 3 phase.

[River918]

[QUOTE=Phat Matt]I have 2 different switches and an electronic solenoid hooked up. Eticket got on the phone with Cascade Audio and did the install.
Call cascade audio.
www.cascadeaudio.com
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1524DSC01128.JPG
I like the Grey Goose holders in the engine compartment :crossx:

[Phat Matt]

[QUOTE=Phat Matt]I have 2 different switches and an electronic solenoid hooked up. Eticket got on the phone with Cascade Audio and did the install.
Call cascade audio.
www.cascadeaudio.com
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1524DSC01128.JPG
I like the Grey Goose holders in the engine compartment :crossx:
I had them make for the big 1.75l bottles. :skull:
:D

[Mr. Naudio]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're stereo is consuming, let's say, 100 amps, the Cascade will not be charging the battery. It will be providing all 75 amps of output to the system and the battery will make up the defecit.
no correction needed at those rates the bat would be acting like a cap (oh shit i said that)sooner or latter the battery would go down prob latter due to the 2150 amps to start and only a 25 amp draw (at those rates)
The real question is will there still be ice and beer in the cooler.

[BoatFloating]

SWB, I've run ever thing under the sun and by far the genny and APS 75 is the best system. Like Mr Nadio the APS acts like a buffer and gives the battery something that is better than nothing. Matt will tell you the Genny set up is the way to go.... It gives you other things like fog machines and lasers to plug in. The Honda 2000 will be on the ragged edge running the APS 90 I would suggest the 75 period. Sotally Tober, if you parallel them then you are really taxing the 2000. The only other choice would be the Honda 3000 and a lot more pounds

[Sotally Tober]

SWB, I've run ever thing under the sun and by far the genny and APS 75 is the best system. Like Mr Nadio the APS acts like a buffer and gives the battery something that is better than nothing. Matt will tell you the Genny set up is the way to go.... It gives you other things like fog machines and lasers to plug in. The Honda 2000 will be on the ragged edge running the APS 90 I would suggest the 75 period. Sotally Tober, if you parallel them then you are really taxing the 2000. The only other choice would be the Honda 3000 and a lot more pounds
Rocky, I did mention that you would need a bigger gen if you parallel 2 chargers. I was just trying to solve his problem with run time. I do not think you could even run a 90 with the 2000. You would hate to burn up a spendy gen. I know a bigger gen would be some weight, but I think Jon has like 5-6 odesseys that he would get rid of. Now that is some weight.
I just ordered a CAE 75 to charge my batts. I figure I would get it so if I go you way and get a gen, I'm a 1/3 of the way there. I spoke with Doug @ CAE and thier building me one with an internal IQ4. They say you can cut the jumper and put it to a toggle switch to get the higher voltage for a gen.

[Sotally Tober]

Yes it is. They add some filters to it so there is no elec. noise from it at all. I talked to Doug, the V.P. and I guess he sells them to steroe shops to power all thier 12v display boards. Like Best Buy etc. He was very helpful explaining it.
www.zeronoise.com

[BoatFloating]

How much power are you running? And not the make believe Kraco power ratings, real no BS rms watts. :D
I run a JL 1000 and 2 300x4 so not near what you have but those JL do pull a lot of amps per hour. Like ST said CAE takes the IOTA and makes audio friendly. And ST I have a couple people running the 90's but they aren't running a lot of draw down and so far so good but I wouldn't trust it. One nice thing about the Honda 2000 it has a protect mode so the APS 90 will blow first and that ain't cheap either.

[Phat Matt]

How much power are you running? And not the make believe Kraco power ratings, real no BS rms watts. :D
I have PG Xenon amps
1200.1
1200.1
200.4
100.4
3600 watts RMS
The birth sheets say more though.

[BoatFloating]

I have PG Xenon amps
1200.1
1200.1
200.4
100.4
3600 watts RMS
The birth sheets say more though.
There is a man that understands the power of the Genny set up....

[Phat Matt]

There is a man that understands the power of the Genny set up....
Yep. I have seen the light. :D

[Sotally Tober]

Do you guys run the gen. as you are driving around? Or just sitting at the bar. We do a lot of starting and stopping. I did not want to have to pull a cord everytime I stop. With the gen in the engine comp. are there any fumes that you are worried about from the gas sloshing around. Were does the fuel tank vent to. The bilge area?

[BoatFloating]

Do you guys run the gen. as you are driving around? Or just sitting at the bar. We do a lot of starting and stopping. I did not want to have to pull a cord everytime I stop. With the gen in the engine comp. are there any fumes that you are worried about from the gas sloshing around. Were does the fuel tank vent to. The bilge area?
My exhaust vents out the side thru bilge dump fitting. I don't run it most of the time when I'm driving. I'll fire it up when I hit the beach or the tie up spot. You could run it with the hatch closed but the fumes from the exhaust even though vent still build up. There really is no reason to run while driving though.

[Sotally Tober]

Do you just use your alt. (stator for you) while under power? With you whackers I wouldn't worry about the fumes. But with a I/O it would make me worried. My hatch is actually a seat. I' ve thought about putting one in my bow area under the floor. Then using it to charge my deep cycles when needed.

[BoatFloating]

Do you just use you alt. while under power? With you whackers I wouldn't worry about the fumes. But with a I/O it would make me worried. My hatch is actually a seat. I' ve thought about putting one in my bow area under the floor. Then using it to charge my deep cycles when needed.
My setup is different. I don't touch the motor batteries at all with the genny setup. I have 2 batteries just for the stereo. Unless you drive a lot the alt never does do enough to charge the battery.

[ROZ]

well, there ya have it