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Outnumbered
09-28-2004, 01:10 PM
I want to look into getting my own web-site. I need to know how to start, how to secure a domain name, and how much it costs. I am looking for low budget. I cannot spend $5k on a site.
I would need full-service design, hosting, form filling, etc. How much should this run?
Does anyone have any recommendations on who to use? There are a ton of web-service companies on the web but how do you know who is good and bad? Most will secure the domain name for you but is this a bad idea?
Thanks in advance for the info.
OL

Rock-A-Bye-Baby
09-28-2004, 01:14 PM
check you pm....

Outnumbered
09-28-2004, 03:14 PM
Thanks for the PM's. Anyone else have any input?

Outnumbered
09-28-2004, 05:33 PM
Anyone?

dmontzsta
09-28-2004, 05:39 PM
What kind of website is it?
What kind of traffic will be there?
I can tell you the best place to reserve your name is www.godaddy.com
There are a few of my co-workers/buddies that do webdesign and are complete internet masters, they do free lance stuff sometimes. Let me know.

***boat
09-28-2004, 05:46 PM
Just a word on domain names as this is something I find myself helping people with a lot. When the domain is registered make sure it is registered in your name (as the owner). The company that registers it can put themselves in as the admin contact. Write down the login name and password and keep it some place you can find it again. Also re-register it through the same place each year (or however often you need to). There are a lot of scams out there where companies will mail you something that says your domain is going to expire and you need to renew through them. It is a scam, legit providers will usually email you not mail you about it.

Outnumbered
09-28-2004, 05:59 PM
Thanks ***boat.
DMONTZSTA, check your PMs.
OL

Kim Hanson
09-28-2004, 06:10 PM
I want to look into getting my own web-site. I need to know how to start, how to secure a domain name, and how much it costs. I am looking for low budget. I cannot spend $5k on a site.
I would need full-service design, hosting, form filling, etc. How much should this run?
Does anyone have any recommendations on who to use? There are a ton of web-service companies on the web but how do you know who is good and bad? Most will secure the domain name for you but is this a bad idea?
Thanks in advance for the info.
OL
You can build a web-site easy, look at mine! It only cost $45.00 bucks a mth! I got it for the bandwith and the speed on uploads....I didn't want a forum, way to many out there right now. I didn't pay anyone to do anything to my site, this was a begginer doing it!........( . )( . )......Kims Web Page! (http://kimhanson1.tripod.com/kimhansonampmybreastfriendisbre/)
I helped build one for Liberator Boats also!

bigq
09-28-2004, 07:14 PM
I second godaddy.com for domain registration. There are many pro website guys on here I thought. I host my own server and did my own site, I am not a pro but it came out good for someone with no creative ability like myself :) .
bladedata (http://www.bladedata.com)
i think Kwicherbitchen does sites. good luck.

Outnumbered
09-28-2004, 07:45 PM
I second godaddy.com for domain registration. There are many pro website guys on here I thought. I host my own server and did my own site, I am not a pro but it came out good for someone with no creative ability like myself :) .
bladedata (http://www.bladedata.com)
i think Kwicherbitchen does sites. good luck.
Uh....Bigq....your site is down :confused: :shift: :confused:

schmaubba
09-28-2004, 07:51 PM
use microsoft front page..its forkin easy!!!! :cool: :cool:

bigq
09-28-2004, 10:05 PM
Uh....Bigq....your site is down :confused: :shift: :confused:
:confused: :notam: everything seems ok.

Kindsvater Flat
09-28-2004, 10:12 PM
I use Btwixt.net for everything on all my websites (check signature) Nick has been great with help and everything. 100 bucks a year per site is worth it in my book. Nick will answer his phone at all times also and if not will return your call within an hour.

Outnumbered
09-29-2004, 01:04 AM
:confused: :notam: everything seems ok.
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Kwicherbichen
09-29-2004, 02:39 AM
I want to look into getting my own web-site. I need to know how to start, how to secure a domain name, and how much it costs. I am looking for low budget. I cannot spend $5k on a site.
I would need full-service design, hosting, form filling, etc. How much should this run?
Does anyone have any recommendations on who to use? There are a ton of web-service companies on the web but how do you know who is good and bad? Most will secure the domain name for you but is this a bad idea?
Thanks in advance for the info.
OL
Old Lavey, there are a couple ways to approach getting a website. A) You could pay someone like me to make the site which could be costly depending on what you want. B) Give it a try yourself using design software or hand coding.
I won't address how much it could cost someone like me to do it in this open forum but you can PM me and I will send you in the right direction based on your budget. I'm currently expanding areas of the bikini team (http://www.kwicherbichen.com) site and it takes up a lot of my free time.
I will say that you could probably give it a try on your own using design software or via an online template using a browser interface. The software I use is Dreamweaver and I like it. In fact I like it basic and still use an ancient version. I don't personally recommend or use Microsoft Frontpage. Some folks like it but I'm not one of them. I was school trained using both and liked Dreamweaver better. Here's the kicker, they aren't cheap and the learning curve to make something really cool can be timely. On the other hand, you could probably borrow a copy from someone for free...ask around.
You could also use a ready made template like the ones at this site (http://ads.ipowerweb.com/~afftrend/transaction.php?APID=181&affID=00000000000000016837). They only cost 6$ and they have quite a few to choose from. Everything can be done online and at $6 you can't not try it. I mean, they give you a 30 day money back guarantee and even if you use it longer you only lose $6
As far as hosting goes, I was using JNJ host when I first started putting sites up. They are a hosting reseller and not a direct host. In the beginning it worked out OK but once the company was sold they had more server/service issuse than I was willing to deal with. Anyway, I did a lot of research and found a company that monitors hosting providers and their service. I focused on the top ten and chose ipowerweb.com (http://ads.ipowerweb.com/~afftrend/transaction.php?APID=135&affID=00000000000000016837). I have moved a few of the sites I have built to them and would recommend them regardless of how you get your site built. They charge $7.95 a month for more bandwidth and space than anyone else was offering and I'm sure it will probably be more than you'll ever use. I've been with them for a year now and my site has never been down. They answer my email questions promptly and they have 24 hour phone support. You can also get you domain name there for $5.50 a year. I also recommend making sure all of you domain name stuff is in your name and paid for with your credit card and make sure you save a copy of all your contracts with any company.
I'm not a fan of godaddy.com. A few years back I liked their program but now the name is bigger than the service. I haven't personally used them but I spend some time on webmaster forums and sites and they don't come highly regarded. It's your choice though.
This isn't a knock on Kim Hanson, he's a great guy, but $45.00 a month for hosting is a bit steap. Using the hosting company I recommend would save him nearly $40 a month which I consider to be gas & beer money for the boat. Just a thought.
I hope this helped with some of you questions. If you have other questions just shoot me a PM.

boxscore
09-29-2004, 06:52 AM
try www.websites2000.com. They'll talk to you about price , your needs over the phone. They really do nice work. Check out some of it at their website.

Outnumbered
09-29-2004, 07:56 AM
Old Lavey, there are a couple ways to approach getting a website. A) You could pay someone like me to make the site which could be costly depending on what you want. B) Give it a try yourself using design software or hand coding.
I won't address how much it could cost someone like me to do it in this open forum but you can PM me and I will send you in the right direction based on your budget. I'm currently expanding areas of the bikini team (http://www.kwicherbichen.com) site and it takes up a lot of my free time.
I will say that you could probably give it a try on your own using design software or via an online template using a browser interface. The software I use is Dreamweaver and I like it. In fact I like it basic and still use an ancient version. I don't personally recommend or use Microsoft Frontpage. Some folks like it but I'm not one of them. I was school trained using both and liked Dreamweaver better. Here's the kicker, they aren't cheap and the learning curve to make something really cool can be timely. On the other hand, you could probably borrow a copy from someone for free...ask around.
You could also use a ready made template like the ones at this site (http://ads.ipowerweb.com/~afftrend/transaction.php?APID=181&affID=00000000000000016837). They only cost 6$ and they have quite a few to choose from. Everything can be done online and at $6 you can't not try it. I mean, they give you a 30 day money back guarantee and even if you use it longer you only lose $6
As far as hosting goes, I was using JNJ host when I first started putting sites up. They are a hosting reseller and not a direct host. In the beginning it worked out OK but once the company was sold they had more server/service issuse than I was willing to deal with. Anyway, I did a lot of research and found a company that monitors hosting providers and their service. I focused on the top ten and chose ipowerweb.com (http://ads.ipowerweb.com/~afftrend/transaction.php?APID=135&affID=00000000000000016837). I have moved a few of the sites I have built to them and would recommend them regardless of how you get your site built. They charge $7.95 a month for more bandwidth and space than anyone else was offering and I'm sure it will probably be more than you'll ever use. I've been with them for a year now and my site has never been down. They answer my email questions promptly and they have 24 hour phone support. You can also get you domain name there for $5.50 a year. I also recommend making sure all of you domain name stuff is in your name and paid for with your credit card and make sure you save a copy of all your contracts with any company.
I'm not a fan of godaddy.com. A few years back I liked their program but now the name is bigger than the service. I haven't personally used them but I spend some time on webmaster forums and sites and they don't come highly regarded. It's your choice though.
This isn't a knock on Kim Hanson, he's a great guy, but $45.00 a month for hosting is a bit steap. Using the hosting company I recommend would save him nearly $40 a month which I consider to be gas & beer money for the boat. Just a thought.
I hope this helped with some of you questions. If you have other questions just shoot me a PM.
That is great advise. Why does everyone say it is so expensive to have a web site? Those numbers sound unbelieveably low. Aside from the design, which I know can get very expensive, what else should I look out for in terms of potential cost issues.
Thanks!
OL

Outnumbered
09-29-2004, 08:05 AM
What kind of website is it?
What kind of traffic will be there?
The site will be Real Estate related to promote my appraisal company. I also am getting back into mortgage loans which I did several years back, so promotion for this would be another angle. Possibly two separate sites linked. Both of these would need secure form filling etc.
Without giving too much away, I was looking at a forum or classified board to be included.
Traffic would me mostly local Phoenix so I could not imagine it being too heavy. But I have no idea what traffic numbers would be considered high.
Thanks again,
OL

Ion
09-29-2004, 09:49 AM
The site will be Real Estate related to promote my appraisal company. I also am getting back into mortgage loans which I did several years back, so promotion for this would be another angle. Possibly two separate sites linked. Both of these would need secure form filling etc.
Without giving too much away, I was looking at a forum or classified board to be included.
Traffic would me mostly local Phoenix so I could not imagine it being too heavy. But I have no idea what traffic numbers would be considered high.
Thanks again,
OL
First and foremost for someone who has little to no knowledge re: websites, find a respectible host. Registering a domain name and annual renewal should cost no more than $15.00 per year. Some domain "parking" services rape inexperienced newbies. The initial registration fee (by whatever host does this for you) might be a little more, because it requires time to do so). Here's another good tip...use a host in Canada, where the exchange rate (when you pay for bandwidth) favors us in the US. My server resides in a data center in Canada and my rates are substantially less than they were in northern CA. The guy who runs the Canadian data center also does virtual hosting (providing the server space, et.al) for you and I know he would be receptive to new customers. They can also provide secure certs, contacts for merchant accounts, javascripting, cgi programs, etc. PM me if you'd like a contact.

Kwicherbichen
09-29-2004, 10:57 PM
That is great advise. Why does everyone say it is so expensive to have a web site? Those numbers sound unbelieveably low. Aside from the design, which I know can get very expensive, what else should I look out for in terms of potential cost issues.
Thanks!
OL
Well having a website can be expensive depending on who you go with and the traffic numbers. Some companies advertise a lot and it cost money. That charge is passed on to the customer in higher fees. The other major charge can be for bandwith. Think of bandwidth as electricity. You get a certain amount alloted for your site for your monthly fee. If you exceed that amount they charge you more money at higher rates.
In your case I can almost guarantee that you won't exceed what ipower offers in the basic package. First, it sounds like your site will offer basic info about appraisals and possibly loans in the Phoenix area. I'm thinking, you might get 50 random visits a day and that's nothing in terms of bandwidth. On the other hand if you had a porn site or something very entertaining would get thousands of visits a day.
As far as those numbers being unbelievably low, I use the same hosting package for the bikini team (http://www.kwicherbichen.com). I get pretty good numbers and I am well within my bandwidth limits.
Once you get your site up and running there really aren't any additional cost other than paying for the hosting & domain name each year. There are optional costs for add-ons that you MAY want to consider. You can hire an SEO (search engine optimization) professional to help you get higher search engine rankings. Essentially they can streamline your content, keywords, and other tags to target your market better. You could also hire someone to submit the site to search engines and such. This one isn't neccessary because it is possible to get a good hold on this yourself. If you use ipowerweb.com they have a search engine submission feature that will do it for you in a matter of minutes.
PM or email me if you want.