Who knows a good surgeon

[BIGAMIST]

I need to find a good surgeon in LA......anybody know one????????? NEED TO TALK TO SOME-ONE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!spider bite :frown: :frown:

[LUVNLIFE]

Again Bro? Or is this from the last bite? Better be a little specific on what kind of surgeon. :jawdrop:

[JetBoatRich]

Jeff is it for cosmetic damage :supp: what's up?

[Jetdriver]

Whats up with that dude???

[BIGAMIST]

Same spider bite

[JetBoatRich]

Same spider bite
Hope it all works out for you :idea: but if you can't get a good doctor we can meet at Shawn's house and take care of it in the garage :messedup: I hear he has a awesome set of tools :boxingguy

[mirvin]

Hey Jeff, I know a doc on Ventura blvd who does mole removal and stuff like that if you still need it.
mirvin

[Doug H.]

Are you kidding ?? he's finally going to get the pee pee enlarged per request from Jen.. j/k ;)

[LUVNLIFE]

Are you kiddin? There's a reason he has to wear long shorts Doug. Not that I know personally or have been looking when he pees and no he didn't show me. There I think I covered myself :D

[Doug H.]

Those aren't long shorts !! there the kids pants next door that he out grew !!

[BIGAMIST]

Are you kidding ?? he's finally going to get the pee pee enlarged per request from Jen.. j/k ;)
Goin down in size per your wife....seems to be a problem with loose stool :hammerhea

[BIGAMIST]

Hey Jeff, I know a doc on Ventura blvd who does mole removal and stuff like that if you still need it.
mirvin
send me a PM with the info

[Doug H.]

Well, aren't we cute today !!! :)

[LUVNLIFE]

Goin down in size per your wife....seems to be a problem with loose stool :hammerhea
Jeff don't pull any punches. What are you really trying to say :D

[Doug H.]

Easy Cale.. :idea:

[BIGAMIST]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/121spiderbite.JPG

[JetBoatRich]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/121spiderbite.JPG
That loks pretty nasty :yuk: :yuk: good luck Jeff

[essexjet]

I'm just a paramedic but that look pretty gangrenes to me. You could have infection going into your blood if you dont take care of it and spread throughout you system. I would have that taken care of ASAP. just my .02

[hot_diggity_dog]

I'm just a paramedic but that look pretty gangrenes to me. You could have infection going into your blood if you dont take care of it and spread throughout you system. I would have that taken care of ASAP. just my .02
Yep better get on some serious antibotics ASAP, :supp: :supp:
If you don't the risk is loss of your leg!!!!! :jawdrop:
HDD :cool:

[Mrs Luvnlife]

:eek: Jeff....if nothing else, at least get to a regular doctor, maybe he can get you some antibiotics.....I don't wanna have to call you gimpy!! :p :D
Seriously though!!

[JetBoatRich]

:eek: Jeff....if nothing else, at least get to a regular doctor, maybe he can get you some antibiotics.....I don't wanna have to call you gimpy!! :p :D
Seriously though!!
Or "PEG" "I LEAN", etc :cool:

[Desert Rat]

Is that a BV bite?? :sqeyes:

[AZKC]

Looks like a Brown Recluse bite kinda. Not good :frown: you better get to somebody quick.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

HOLY SH!T! WTF caused that and HowTF do I avoid it? Good luck!

[Desert Rat]

Is that a BV bite?? :sqeyes:
Just asking if it happened at Buena Vista?

[PICKLEtheLOAD]

I'm just a paramedic but that look pretty gangrenes to me. You could have infection going into your blood if you dont take care of it and spread throughout you system. I would have that taken care of ASAP. just my .02
Its beginning to smell like almonds.... :eek:
seriously, seek medical attention per the paramedics advice is what I would do.

[LUVNLIFE]

Jeff, Jerry saw the spider bite I had on my foot. I got it way after yours and mine is all closed up but left a scarred area the size of a quarter. Get some damn attention if you haven't. Think about it, you could be that one legged man in an ass kicking contest. That would mean really busy. :D

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

Did he get into the doctor? Jeezus, I hope so. That is a gnarly spider bite. If not, he needs to get in ASAP. Spider bites are not supposed to look like that, something is seriously wrong. If it is a brown recluse, Bigasmist, you need to get to the doctor or ER RIGHT AWAY!!!!

[Doug H.]

A one man ass kicking machine ? shit he needs both his legs and then some.

[bordsmnj]

got bit by one of those exactly a year ago. the doctor told me if i had waited another day it could have killed me or been close. it was right in the middle of my chest next to my heart. it looked like a third tit with a crater just like that one in the above pick. it started out as a little thing that looked like a zit or an ingrown hair and a week later big. i missed RD's birthday party last year becuase of it. spent the whole weekend hooked up to an I.V.

[Boozer]

That resembles a brown recluse bite but it is my understanding that brown recluse do not exist in California. What other type of spider bite could cause deteoration like that?

[Blown_Rob]

i hear ya doug lol he will blow away :cry:

[Nucking futs]

I got bit by a recluse and let me tell you, not fun.Got bit on the top of my foot and it didnt hurt but was getting bigger and then 4 days later banged my leg on my dresser and it took me to the ground.18 hrs of anti venom and a whole lot of I.V.'s.Two days later caught pneumonia and the doc said i was real close to taking a very long nap.....Get it checked out.....Tim

[RiverRatMike]

looks pretty infected to me

[mbrown2]

God Damn Biga, get to a doctor or er asap....that thing look like it could get bigger...

[essexjet]

at this point (or any other) I would not be looking for a surgeon first bigamist!!! and the blistering around the leg is also concerning. Take if from the Beaumont offical ambulance driver and paramedic, go be seen by an ER physician, they would have more knowledge of this then a GP doctor. I worst case scenerio, I would go to Loma Linda ER and have Dr. Bush take a look at it (he's the one from venom ER on Discovery Channel).

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

ANy new news here?? I hope he is ok.
Like my husband said, he has a similar bite and the dr. said if he had waited much longer to seek medical attention, he could have died. :jawdrop:

[Sportin' Wood]

That resembles a brown recluse bite but it is my understanding that brown recluse do not exist in California. What other type of spider bite could cause deteoration like that?
There are brown recluse in CA. A customer of mine got bit by one about two years ago. Nearly killed her. Is a b rown recluse the same as a "violin" spider?
No news on bigamist is making me very nervous. Anyone have his phone # to call and find out?

[Jetdriver]

Just called and left him a message. I know a few months back he was taking anti biotics but I guess it just didnt go away.

[Rexone]

a few months back he was taking anti biotics :jawdrop:

[Rev. Williams]

There are brown recluse in CA. A customer of mine got bit by one about two years ago. Nearly killed her. Is a b rown recluse the same as a "violin" spider?
No news on bigamist is making me very nervous. Anyone have his phone # to call and find out?
I talked to him Wednesday and he was still alive..... A little spider can't take Biggy out!!
Are there any Docs in the house to prescribe some antibiotics??? My Dr is cool but I doubt he'd give me a prescription for someone else. I guess I could lie :D :D "Hey Doc, I'm pissing fire!! Can you give me some antibiotics?" :D
He'd probably say.... "not again!" and shove a q-tip up my junk to get a culture :eek: Talk about taking one for a friend!!

[Mrs Luvnlife]

I talked to him this morning....he's still kickin :D....he said he had scheduled a Dr. appt......

[BIGAMIST]

I've seen 2 Doctors in the last year & I'm still dealin with this bite...............goin to see another Doctor Tuesday........we'll see what happens :(

[JetBoatRich]

I've seen 2 Doctors in the last year & I'm still dealin with this bite...............goin to see another Doctor Tuesday........we'll see what happens :(
Looks bad Jeff :confused: let us know what happens

[AZKC]

Here's a good site with tons of info about the BRS.
Brown Recluse Spider (http://www.highway60.com/mark/brs/)
Yukky pics

[Jordy]

Is a b rown recluse the same as a "violin" spider?
That would be a yes. I believe they have a violin shaped design on them and I belive it's on their back. I hate spiders..... :(

[moneysucker]

If this Dr. doesn't work out. We can use a body grinder and some bondo and fix you up as good as new. I really hope they come up with the right drugs to clear that up. I hate spiders but I am sure not as much as Bigimist. Good luck.

[SoCal_fun]

Keep on those Doctors until they get this thing whipped! Good luck Bro!

[eliminatedsprinter]

There are brown recluse in CA. A customer of mine got bit by one about two years ago. Nearly killed her. Is a b rown recluse the same as a "violin" spider?
No news on bigamist is making me very nervous. Anyone have his phone # to call and find out?
Yes the Brown Recluse is aka the Violin Spider, but it could also be a Black Widow they can also cause the same type of tissue damage (if not worse). However, Widow bites are usually more painful in the initial phases, so they are not as likely to go untreated and get out of hand the way Brown Recluse bites often do.
By now I hope you have found good Rx and are on the mend. I just heard about this post over the weekend while at Havasu. Give an update on how you are A.S.A.P... :frown:

[Wally_Gator]

That would be a yes. I believe they have a violin shaped design on them and I belive it's on their back. I hate spiders..... :(
As I understand it the Brown Recluse does not live in California but the Violin Spider does and it is a very close relative of the BR.
They mainly live in the High desert... If I remember my TLC channel properly..
Jeff,
That is one serious bite. Don't take any crap from the Doctors. If it feels like they are guessing on how to treat it, run to a specialist.
Let us know how it is going..
Walter, AKA Wally_Gator

[eliminatedsprinter]

P.S. I'm not a MD, but I am familiar with the pathology here. That is a year old bite. The venom is long gone. What happend is the tissue damage to the area has damaged the circulation and caused the area of the bite to get an inadaquate blood supply, this can result in more tissue death and or infection. Bigi you will probably need to see a vascular doc and perhaps a dermatologist. But do it fast, before you need to see an orthopedist!!!

[Wally_Gator]

Not to be gross or anything. But the FDA has recently approved a new(age old) method for removing the necrosis. Fly Larva.. or maggots.. Specially grown to be "FDA" approved, these will eat only the dead tissue and leave the good tissue. That is if you are looking for a non-surgical alternative..
News Story.. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/08/02/maggot.medicine.ap/)

[Misogynist]

That is some scary Sh!t..... when one doctor starts treating the area with a 9v stun gun... I begin to worry...... Seems the venom isn't easily neutralized and keeps creeping along the flesh... causing the small capilaries and vessels to constrict... thus causing the flesh to die in it's path... That one site says the electrical current causes the venon to "change"... be neutralized... there were some horrible pictures of the aftermath of a bite.... :cry:

[LUVNLIFE]

Jeff, Shawn will have my chop saw this weekend. :D VROOM VROOM :D

[SoCal_fun]

TTT
Jeff, Whats the update on this? Maybe I missed it (if you already posted..) :frown:
How ya doin Bro? :confused:

[BIGAMIST]

TTT
Jeff, Whats the update on this? Maybe I missed it (if you already posted..) :frown:
How ya doin Bro? :confused:
Same shit different day :wink: :D ............................the update is...........still F'N with it, there's some-one on the forum here that I need to call she might have some info for me, but I havn't been home at a hour that I can call her...........................so I think I'm gonna have Shawn & Cale take care of it with the chop-saw :D :D

[BIGAMIST]

Oh Larry.........I forgot to tell you........your avatar........look out, you're one sexy mother F U C K E R :D :D :D :D

[Doug H.]

ooh sshit, I knew Jeff was up to something when he said that about you Larry, this confirms that he's a switch hitter and likes men, really BIG MEN, oh damn........................in your best girlie voice "why can't you just share your bed"............ tee hee.

[Mrs Luvnlife]

Same shit different day :wink: :D ............................the update is...........still F'N with it, there's some-one on the forum here that I need to call she might have some info for me, but I havn't been home at a hour that I can call her...........................so I think I'm gonna have Shawn & Cale take care of it with the chop-saw :D :D
Hey Heffe......If ya can't call her, she can relay the info to me and I can get it to you........just a thought. ;)

[RP1]

That seriously need medical attention.
I was bit by one of those bastards a few years back and it looked the same way. They had to slice it open and pack guaze in there for three weeks to extract the poison. I was on crutches for two of those weeks because they didn't want the blood moving around in that leg.
Get er taken care of now!

[carbonmarine]

DUDE ! You need Loma Linda's Venom Response Unit .... They even have a TV show about Venomous Snake Bites. Your condition is serious, if it infects your blood untreated you will die.
Rick

[eliminatedsprinter]

Like I said before. It's a year old bite, so the venom is long gone. However, you do need to get it treated fast. The circulation to that area is impared and you have visable signs of infection and necrosis. The longer you wait the more tissue loss you will have. There is even a chance of septicemia or limb loss if it goes too far. Don't dick around with this Jeff, it is bad news.....

[stoker]

I spent the night on my boat in Newport about 6 weeks ago. I woke up with what looked like a pimple in the top of my hand, close to my thumb. It started to get bigger and developed a big blister. I squeezed it and got as much of the crap out of it as i could. After that it started to look just like the one on your leg, except mine was almost a perfect circle. It grew to about the size of a dime and then after a couple of weeks it started to go away. Now it is just a small circular scar.
I forgot to mention, the morning I noticed the bite, I had killed a big funky looking spider on the boat. It didn't really look like a violin spider, it was big and light brown.
Mine healed after a couple of weeks. If it didn't I would have definetly gone to the doctors. It would suck to lose a leg over a spider bite, or worse yet your life!

[Mrs Luvnlife]

Jeff....seriously, you should get r done :D...no really, get it taken care of. I would head to the ER, cuz now you have another weekend to go through and from what everyone's saying it really sounds to be waaaay serious!! I don't know if a dermatologist would be able to help, they may steer you in the right direction, but like I said now you have another weekend here....just hit the ER tonight, you have nothing better to do!!!! :hammer2: :D

[SoCal_fun]

Oh Larry.........I forgot to tell you........your avatar........look out, you're one sexy mother F U C K E R :D :D :D :D
Dam, now you got Doug all jealous and shit! :2purples:
Don't worry Doug, there's enough to go around.. :jawdrop:
:D :D :D :D

[LUVNLIFE]

Jeff really get it taking care of. How are you gonna kick someone in the ass if you only have one leg. Let me know if you need any help with this crap.

[SoCal_fun]

Jeff really get it taking care of. How are you gonna kick someone in the ass if you only have one leg. Let me know if you need any help with this crap.
I'll second Cale's reply. Maybe Jeff needs an intervention. We can pick him up (no problem there..LOL!) and force him to the Doc. :hammer2:

[ONAROLL]

Like I said before. It's a year old bite, so the venom is long gone. However, you do need to get it treated fast. The circulation to that area is impared and you have visable signs of infection and necrosis. The longer you wait the more tissue loss you will have. There is even a chance of septicemia or limb loss if it goes too far. Don't dick around with this Jeff, it is bad news.....
Sprinter, I got to hand it too ya for being the only voice of reason and sound practice, so far one dude says he got Anti-venom (Actually its Venon), four days after his spider bite, here I call bullshit, or you need a new physician, some moron is shocking it with a nine volt battery, (the urban legend was actually a boat motor with the victim hooked up to the spark plug to disrupt the neuotoxins flow through the bloodstream (also bullshit) truth is whoever had the "use the grinder on it was pretty close" any decent Physician can debreed that wound in order to remove as much of the necrotic tissue as possible, then treat it as any other open wound, it does not make any difference what kind of spider bit him the damage is at the cellular level and it takes along time to heal, the red inflamation around the wound is perfectly normal, antibiotics are questionable in the treatment of these wounds, we treat early onset with steroids in a progressive dose pack, seems to do the best, I see many of these and here we call em fiddlebacks, I got bit on the ass two years ago and there is no trace of a wound. as I said any decent physician can treat that wound, not just the dude with the ponytail on TV, so bust out the grinder peel it back .060 and pack it with neosporin. just my .02