winter project...and then some...

[steelcomp]

Well, I finally got it home, safe and sound. This is going to be one helluva project, but this one will out do the Bahner. I still haven't decided weather or not to go jet or v-drive, but that'll come in due time. First thing I'm going to do is flip this bad boy over, and start from there.
OK Spectra 19 owners...what do I do to the bottom of this thing to get 100+ (notice the plus) out of it?
Aint it ugly!! But it's very solid. Actually a good starting point, especially since it was FREE!
Pics to follow...

[revndave]

Extend lifting strakes to back of boat and set pump back a little bit.Thats what Jeff B. told me when I had mine.

[steelcomp]

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6694&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6695&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6696&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6697&stc=1

[revndave]

The couple that bought mine run the sh*t out of it.Its been at Parker every other weekend.

[steelcomp]

Rev'n Dave.. I'll be talking to you a lot, I'm sure.
Here's a couple more pics.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6698&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6699&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6700&stc=1

[revndave]

Where did you find boat?Any ques. give me a pm.I think I had the fastest and most motor in one of those hulls.Not to toot my own horn.

[steelcomp]

Where did you find boat?Any ques. give me a pm.I think I had the fastest and most motor in one of those hulls.Not to toot my own horn.
In a jet, I might agree, but I've got some pics of a v-drive that are my inspiration. It's Granatelli's old boat. Ran 100+ no sweat. Gentry twin turbo BB Chev w/ Turbo400. I'll post those in a minute.
I saw this boat sitting in a storage lot for a couple years...no pump, no motor, no interior. A friend of mine ended up with it, stuck the motor in it, (out of a Lincoln), bought a worn out pump, and took it to the lake once. Then it sat for another couple years, and finally he called me and said I could have it for a grand. I always saw it as a v-drive, and I have the running gear and steering out of a sanger, so I sold the pump for a grand. I've had it for a couple years, while I've been building my Bahner, but now it's time is come!

[SPECTRABRENT]

What year is your Spectra?
It looks like it has full lenght stringers, thats very good to start with.
As for the bottom, I would call Jeff Bennett, I am sure he could set you in
the right direction.
Let me know if you need any questions answered regarding Spectra Marine.
Good Luck,
Brent

[revndave]

I was talking about a jet. :) My motor was 1013 at 7200rpm.The stupid thing is it ran its best with 800hp motor.Thats where I think the bottom comes into play.

[steelcomp]

Here's the RED boat. I think it's an 82. Lousy pics...I'm taking pics of the pics with my digital and uploading them that way. You get the idea. This is a bad boy!
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6701&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6702&stc=1

[revndave]

Here is my injected motor.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/502/686revndaves-med.JPG

[steelcomp]

What year is your Spectra?
It looks like it has full lenght stringers, thats very good to start with.
As for the bottom, I would call Jeff Bennett, I am sure he could set you in
the right direction.
Let me know if you need any questions answered regarding Spectra Marine.
Good Luck,
Brent
Thanks, Brent. I actually emailed you a number of times when I first got it, asking about converting it to a v-drive. I tracked down the owner of the red boat after seeing a pic of it on your web site. We talked quite a few times and he sent me these photos. I was supposed to get them back to him, but I since moved and lost his contact info. He was really nice and I really feel like I let him down by not getting these pics back to him. Would still love to do so.
I'm really looking forward to the project. I hope to bring a little more shine to the already stellar Spectra name.

[steelcomp]

Here is my injected motor.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/502/686revndaves-med.JPG
That's the direction I'm going...wouldn't be right without a blower. I think I'll do a BBFord, though. Back to my roots of the blue oval. I'm thinking minimum 1000hp pump gas.
Anybody want to buy an 820 hp 496 bbc? :wink:
BTW...that thing is sharp!!

[revndave]

Do you still need strakes extended if its a v drive?Doesnt prop lift the boat?

[revndave]

New motor is 1100+ :crossx: Getting close to 500 post.

[steelcomp]

Do you still need strakes extended if its a v drive?Doesnt prop lift the boat?
Can't say...don't know. It makes sense, but I'll have to find out. Those are the kind of questions I'm going to start asking. I want to follow the GN/ marathon/ circle boat theme. Good handling, good top speed and top end acceleration...not necessarily quick, and solid in rough water.

[steelcomp]

New motor is 1100+ :crossx: Getting close to 500 post.
May I be the first to congratulate you on your successful 500th post! :lightsabe :wink: :2purples: :p :cool: :220v: :D :coffeycup

[revndave]

500th post.

[revndave]

I thought I better post it before saying thanks. :p

[steelcomp]

I thought I better post it before saying thanks. :p :D :D We'll be talkin to ya. LIke I said...I'm not sure which way I'm going to go yet. A v-drive would be cool...but cruisin the river with a prop hangin down would make me nervous.
Later. Thanks for the input.

[revndave]

Did you see the new ride?It will be the river even if I have to wear sweats.

[SPECTRABRENT]

That looks like the red Spectra 19 from my owners page, if so its Vic Edelbrocks old boat. Spectra made two of them both red & v-drives (Vic Edelbrocks & Jerry Herbsts) they were made for ski racing. They both went 100+. Bob Teague also had a Spectra 19 and he raced it in the GN class.
I like the v-drive setup, but If it were me, I would keep it as a jet (just my preference). I really think if setup properly this hull can get into the high 90's low 100's with the right HP. Hackjob's Spectra 19 went into the 90's with a (very stout) 501 Ford and I dont think he had the bottom blueprinted just a setback pump from MPD.
Good Luck,
Brent

[steelcomp]

Did you see the new ride?It will be the river even if I have to wear sweats.
not yet...where are the pics?
Yeah, sweats...you mean when it gets down into the 70's? :rolleyes:

[revndave]

I have the thread New Boat Pics.

[Jeanyus]

:D :D We'll be talkin to ya. LIke I said...I'm not sure which way I'm going to go yet. A v-drive would be cool...but cruisin the river with a prop hangin down would make me nervous.
Later. Thanks for the input.
Poor Steel always has trouble trying to figure out which side of the street to work. Let me help you, Jet, Chevy. J/K
Looks like you sold the Bahner? I was hoping you would go jet, then we could hang out with you in the projects. But if you go v-drive, you could always put on the dark glasses and visit. Either way your projects turn out real sweet. I'm anxious to see the finished product.

[superdave013]

Here's the RED boat. I think it's an 82. Lousy pics...I'm taking pics of the pics with my digital and uploading them that way. You get the idea. This is a bad boy!
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6701&stc=1
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6702&stc=1
OK Steel, you have seen the light. Now let me show you the way to your new home.
click click (http://www.***boat.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
BTW, here's my project. :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48v_drive_installed-med.JPG

[superdave013]

Can't say...don't know. It makes sense, but I'll have to find out. Those are the kind of questions I'm going to start asking. I want to follow the GN/ marathon/ circle boat theme. Good handling, good top speed and top end acceleration...not necessarily quick, and solid in rough water.
No, here's the strakes on my 20' schiada.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48strut_blast_plate1-med.JPG
Pat's fiberglass in Upland is the guru for v drive v hull bottoms. Also Prime Marine would be a good source of info / hardware for that boat.

[SPECTRABRENT]

I dont think you need the inner strakes to go back to the transom for a v-drive. I think the jets prefer the strakes to the transom.
Brent

[malcolm]

I've been wondering about this for a while. To build a faster Spectra jet, should all the strakes be brought back full length? Why did they make them the way they did? More family friendly ride?

[steelcomp]

Poor Steel always has trouble trying to figure out which side of the street to work. Let me help you, Jet, Chevy. J/K
Looks like you sold the Bahner? I was hoping you would go jet, then we could hang out with you in the projects. But if you go v-drive, you could always put on the dark glasses and visit. Either way your projects turn out real sweet. I'm anxious to see the finished product.
Jeanyus...you just helped me make up my mind...thanks.
Ford, BIG Ford, , C6, 871 injected, Casale with 24's spinning a 12:16 Menkins supercup.
Didn't sell the Bahner...well, might have today...talked to a guy on the phone. He needs to think it over, but very interested, less motor.
I think I can find some dark glasses somewhere. :cool:

[steelcomp]

I've been wondering about this for a while. To build a faster Spectra jet, should all the strakes be brought back full length? Why did they make them the way they did? More family friendly ride?
I don't knnow about the bottom of the two 19's anad how they compare (one with full stringers, one with partial) but if yours has as much hook in the bottom of it as this one (full stringer w/ cav plate reliefs) that's where I'd start. We're talkin reverse rocker!!! :jawdrop:

[steelcomp]

No, here's the strakes on my 20' schiada.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48strut_blast_plate1-med.JPG
Pat's fiberglass in Upland is the guru for v drive v hull bottoms. Also Prime Marine would be a good source of info / hardware for that boat.
Oooohhh superdave. You don't know the half of it. This is definately home.
We'll be talkin. Thanks for the info...I have a LOT of work to do. :D
Your project looks nice. I was thinking about carbon fiber floorboards. :idea:
steel

[steelcomp]

OK Steel, you have seen the light. Now let me show you the way to your new home.
click click (http://www.***boat.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
BTW, here's my project. :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48v_drive_installed-med.JPG
Who makes that v-drive?

[Jake W]

Hey there is one of thoes 19 Spectra V drives in the RR1 video it is white and yellow or gold or something like that.
Jake

[superdave013]

Who makes that v-drive?
It's one of Tom Bentley @ Menkens V Drives (not the Menkens Propellers). It's one if his billet deals. The cases are pure porno, pics don't even do it justice. Can use Casale gears in it. As a matter O fact I've got a set of Casale 48% in it right now. :)

[steelcomp]

It's one of Tom Bentley @ Menkens V Drives (not the Menkens Propellers). It's one if his billet deals. The cases are pure porno, pics don't even do it justice. Can use Casale gears in it. As a matter O fact I've got a set of Casale 48% in it right now. :)
FORTY EIGHTS???

[flat broke]

Steel,
The work that was mentioned about the strakes is for a jet, not for the V'drive. Since the hull you have already has the recesses for the plates, you'll basically want to start by making sure she is straight and go from there. From my very limited knowledge on those propeller deals, your plate length and prop selection will be a more critical issue than your strakes once you're running straight and fast.
As for speeds with the 19s. Hacker is better equipped to speak since it was his boat, but that thing went 89.9 with no setup and a lot less peak HP than Revndave's deal. With a jet the boat rides real wet and thats why the strakes should be extended. From what Bennett said, that mod would be worth almost 10mph with what Hacker's boat had in it!!! With the V'drive and a motor you're talking about building, you could lift that thing out of the water instantly so drag wont be anywhere near as much of a problem. As for Speed to HP requirements, start looking at what the V'drive Schiada 19s and 20s are running and that will be close to where the Spectra will fall.
It should be an interesting project no matter which way you go. Honestly even if you go the jet route, set the f'er up with cav hardware and go roundy round the damn thing :)
Chris

[steelcomp]

Steel,
The work that was mentioned about the strakes is for a jet, not for the V'drive. Since the hull you have already has the recesses for the plates, you'll basically want to start by making sure she is straight and go from there. From my very limited knowledge on those propeller deals, your plate length and prop selection will be a more critical issue than your strakes once you're running straight and fast.
As for speeds with the 19s. Hacker is better equipped to speak since it was his boat, but that thing went 89.9 with no setup and a lot less peak HP than Revndave's deal. With a jet the boat rides real wet and thats why the strakes should be extended. From what Bennett said, that mod would be worth almost 10mph with what Hacker's boat had in it!!! With the V'drive and a motor you're talking about building, you could lift that thing out of the water instantly so drag wont be anywhere near as much of a problem. As for Speed to HP requirements, start looking at what the V'drive Schiada 19s and 20s are running and that will be close to where the Spectra will fall.
It should be an interesting project no matter which way you go. Honestly even if you go the jet route, set the f'er up with cav hardware and go roundy round the damn thing :)
Chris
Thanks Chris, for all that. I'm seriously thinkin turning left is cool. I have a pic of a 19' (Spectra or copy) jet with the cav and ride plate working together. Thought that was pretty cool.
I think I'm sticking with v-drive. It's always been my vision for this boat, and it'll be more unique that way. Plus, I just haven't been in a jet that has top end acceleration like a prop boat. Jets hit hard out of the hole, but I want top end. MY friend has a Mandella 17' race deck marathon boat that spins 24's with a 12:15 prop to 6800. We can cruise at about 60mph like we're on the freeway, but when he throws the plate and stands on it, holy cow! The thing goes sideways and see ya! 110 is only a heartbeat away. I love it when the plate's all the way up and that thing is on the bottom and doing it's "tail dance". Brummet did a good job on that one!
I also like the idea of a trans.
Plate length...hmmm. Prop, you say. I've got some homework to do.
Thanks again.