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Starloans
10-27-2004, 06:03 PM
With all the TV talking heads are doing their polls I thought I would do a ***boat poll. You don't have to comment just vote and see what it looks like.

mickeyfinn
10-27-2004, 06:42 PM
I voted for who I plan on voting for. Not exactly what the poll asks for. While I'm voting for Bush I'm afraid there are enough idiots and people on the welfare dole that will vote Kerry in order to continue the free hand outs that Bush may have problems. God help us if that happens.

Forkin' Crazy
10-27-2004, 06:49 PM
I voted for who I plan on voting for. Not exactly what the poll asks for. While I'm voting for Bush I'm afraid there are enough idiots and people on the welfare dole that will vote Kerry in order to continue the free hand outs that Bush may have problems. God help us if that happens.
That ain't no sh t!!!
Ah yes, in some states you can vote if you are a felon.... How f cked up is that? :yuk:

Starloans
10-27-2004, 07:20 PM
No Nader votes yet????? :confused:

OGShocker
10-28-2004, 08:13 AM
No Nader votes yet????? :confused:
Too many gas burning boat,atv and truck owners here for Nader votes. :rolleyes: :D

1978 Rogers
10-28-2004, 10:46 AM
I think the out come here is obvious. But, How long do you think Kerry's Lawyers have keep there "Song & Dance" going after the election. I forsee a huge friggen cluster F*ck.

Ducatista
10-28-2004, 10:49 AM
With 2 or 3 very old and sick Supreme Court Judge's that are ready to "retire", the next President and his choices for replacements will decide for years to come the "attitude" of the Supreme court. What we don't need is more liberal judges in the high courts, IMO, they are ruining this nation as it is now. I also don't want to see such a conservative court that Roe vs Wade is over turned, but my vote goes to GW. No way this country can survive any more liberal courts! :argue: Just my .02

napabob
10-28-2004, 11:00 AM
With all the TV talking heads are doing their polls I thought I would do a ***boat poll. You don't have to comment just vote and see what it looks like.
Question: Who can register to vote?
Answer: In order to register to vote, a person must:
Be a citizen of the United States;
Be a resident of California;
Be at least 18 years of age as of the day of the next election;
Not be in prison or on parole for the conviction of a felony;and
Not be deemed by an appropriate court to be mentally incompetent.
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_faq.htm
Dull minds start dumb polls. What's next, homeless people?

Steve 1
10-28-2004, 02:09 PM
It's already started in Florida they are questioning Blacks at the voting places and coaxing/getting them to sign something. The Rats will stop at nothing..about time for CW 11

Steve 1
10-28-2004, 02:15 PM
John Kerry is Dangerous for America
He has voted against spending for Our Nations Defense against Terror. He has consistently voted to downsize and cut military spending and funds to support our intelligence operations. While in the United States Senate Kerry opposed almost every action of President Reagan. He favored the nuclear freeze movement when Reagan was standing up to the Soviet Union. He has a 20 year ultra liberal voting record that indicates that he cannot be trusted to adequately defend this nation against terrorism. He has said that we pay too much attention to terrorism even in the face of the recent killing of innocent school children by terrorists in Russia. Will John Kerry wait to see if our school kids are murdered by these evil men before he acts to prevent such deeds? Our national security would be endangered with a man with this kind of mentality. John Kerry says that our foreign policy must be approved by the United Nations and that we are accountable to the UN. Most Americans say we are accountable to ourselves and that we should act in our interests and not in the interests of nations that do not like us and in some cases even hate us. Why should America sacrifice its sovereignty?
Kerry will raise our taxes. John Kerry will also raise taxes on the American public and particularly on small business. Small businesses will be forced to cut back and profits will decline. Yet, it is small business that is employing more Americans than ever before. At a time when we are recovering from the disaster of 9/11 and the economy is starting to recover, raising taxes will only abort the recovery and bring greater economic hardship.
Kerry lied about his fellow Veterans. John Kerry’s actions in the Vietnam War have lead many to believe that he is not loyal to the United States of America. Mr. Kerry marched with Hanoi Jane Fonda while his group of protesters carried communist Viet Cong flags and pictures of communist dictator of North Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh. His followers burned the American flag. He also falsely testified before congress that our Vietnam veterans consistently committed atrocities against the Vietnamese people, an action that he has never apologized for.
John Kerry will ruin the U.S. economy Despite 9/11 the war in Iraq and the fact that Bush inherited an economy that had already started to decline in late year 2000, the unemployment rate is still only 5.4% the same as it was under Bill Clinton in 1996. Yet Mr. Kerry is going around the country trying to convince us that we are in the middle of the great depression, just another example of the dishonesty and false rhetoric that this man is composed of. The Bush tax cuts have actually prevented a serious recession and eventually by 2005 will show its full effect that will bring a great wave of prosperity.
Please support President Bush on November 2nd; your support is deeply appreciated.

napabob
10-29-2004, 09:15 AM
By Martin Wolk
Chief economics correspondent
MSNBC
Updated: 2:38 p.m. ET Oct. 28, 2004
In his stump speeches, President Bush frequently declares that the economy is strong and “getting stronger.”
“Over the last three years our economy has grown at rates as fast as any in nearly 20 years,” he said in one recent speech. “The home ownership rate in America is at an all-time high. The past 13 months, we've added 1.9 million new jobs. The unemployment rate across our country is 5.4 percent — lower than the average rates of the 1970s, 1980s, and the 1990s.”
Economic growth in the first three years of the Bush administration actually was pretty lackluster. Gross domestic product rose just 0.8 percent in 2001, 1.9 percent in 2002 and 3 percent in 2003 -- the weakest three-year run in a decade, according to figures from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
Over the past year the recovery has indeed picked up steam. It is far too early to say, but GDP growth this year could come in at over 4.5 percent, according to some forecasters, which would make it the strongest single year since 1984.
But rising productivity and corporate reluctance to hire have meant that the growth surge has not been accompanied by the usual level of job growth. Other than a hiring spree in the spring, payroll growth has been decidedly subpar. Kerry’s stump speeches almost always include a reference to Bush’s poor record on job growth.
“George Bush is the first president in 72 years to lose jobs on his watch,” Kerry said in Milwaukee this week. “In fact, Wisconsin alone lost 7,000 jobs last month. And, when you add up the numbers, this state hasn’t gained a single job in the last four years. Not exactly what I’d call an economic ‘recovery.’”
Many economists have tried to tease out the correlation between the performance of the economy and the result of the presidential election, and job growth always seems to be a key variable. Don Straszheim of Straszheim Global Advisors said that over the past 11 presidential elections dating to 1964 job growth in the six months leading up to the election has nearly always predicted whether the incumbent party stays in power.
Job growth of greater than 1.2 percent has predicted the winner every time but once, when Hubert Humphrey lost to Richard Nixon in a 1968 campaign dominated by the Vietnam War. Job growth of less than 0.8 percent has always signaled a loss by the incumbent party, including Al Gore’s loss to Bush in 2000.
Over the past six months, the economy has added 937,000 jobs, for a gain of 0.7 percent, meaning Bush appears likely to lose, Straszheim said. “It’s just at the high end of the bad economy,” he said. “It’s not a terrible economy – but it comes out on the bad side, which suggests Bush is out.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6345417/

Starloans
10-29-2004, 11:48 AM
Question: Who can register to vote?
Answer: In order to register to vote, a person must:
Be a citizen of the United States;
Be a resident of California;
Be at least 18 years of age as of the day of the next election;
Not be in prison or on parole for the conviction of a felony;and
Not be deemed by an appropriate court to be mentally incompetent.
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_faq.htm
Dull minds start dumb polls. What's next, homeless people?
You sound like you can't vote. :eek: :cry:

napabob
10-29-2004, 01:02 PM
You sound like you can't vote.
Starloans,
The poll is to select the following options:
GWB
Kerry
Ralph Nader
I can't vote I'm a friggin felon
Voter registration rights were listed. I will assume that you are using one of the limitations that will prevent a person from voting to characterize me.
If you as a participant of this political forum can't resist veiled political party insinuations, I suggest that you clarify your response in order to maintain a courteous discourse.

Starloans
10-29-2004, 03:19 PM
Starloans,
The poll is to select the following options:
GWB
Kerry
Ralph Nader
I can't vote I'm a friggin felon
Voter registration rights were listed. I will assume that you are using one of the limitations that will prevent a person from voting to characterize me.
If you as a participant of this political forum can't resist veiled political party insinuations, I suggest that you clarify your response in order to maintain a courteous discourse.
Now Bob....I leave for a few to do some work and come back and you're badmouthing me! :cry:
Not everyone can vote you know. So I thought that would be valid choice also. Sorry I wasn't able to come up with another canadate with my dull mind. I don't know any more canadates and I needed to fill four spots.
BTW..........I think this fourm comes with a disclosure attached.
Any chance that 1 vote for option # 4 was your vote?????? :confused: I'm asking. It's not a big deal to me.

napabob
10-29-2004, 04:07 PM
Now Bob....I leave for a few to do some work and come back and you're badmouthing me! :cry:
Not everyone can vote you know. So I thought that would be valid choice also. Sorry I wasn't able to come up with another canadate with my dull mind. I don't know any more canadates and I needed to fill four spots.
BTW..........I think this fourm comes with a disclosure attached.
Any chance that 1 vote for option # 4 was your vote?????? :confused: I'm asking. It's not a big deal to me.
I requested clarification of your statement. What in your mind would prevent me from casting a ballot?
I do know that there are limitations to voting, that is why I listed the California requirements. You made it appear that a felon did not have any option. I am not defending that type of conviction, but voting is attainable and should be used.
The choice of “ I can't vote I'm a friggin felon” is not a candidate for president. It is a statement of disinformation.
Other candidates that are not mentioned are:
Green Party
Libertarian Party
Peace and Freedom Party of California
Personal Choice
Prohibition Party of Colorado
Reform Party / Independent (Ralph Nader)
Socialist Party USA
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Workers Party
Workers World Party
and a whole slue of Independents and Write-Ins.
http://www.politics1.com/p2004.htm
Your not only dull, you are also lazy. Now that is disparaging.
The forum has Political Rhetoric Rules combined with the Hot Boat Forum Rules. Please clarify on the "disclosure" comment.

Starloans
10-29-2004, 04:31 PM
I requested clarification of your statement. What in your mind would prevent me from casting a ballot?
I do know that there are limitations to voting, that is why I listed the California requirements. You made it appear that a felon did not have any option. I am not defending that type of conviction, but voting is attainable and should be used.
The choice of “ I can't vote I'm a friggin felon” is not a candidate for president. It is a statement of disinformation.
Other candidates that are not mentioned are:
Green Party
Libertarian Party
Peace and Freedom Party of California
Personal Choice
Prohibition Party of Colorado
Reform Party / Independent (Ralph Nader)
Socialist Party USA
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Workers Party
Workers World Party
and a whole slue of Independents and Write-Ins.
http://www.politics1.com/p2004.htm
Your not only dull, you are also lazy. Now that is disparaging.
The forum has Political Rhetoric Rules combined with the Hot Boat Forum Rules. Please clarify on the "disclosure" comment.
Damn Bob...you doing ok? You a little serious about this ***boat political shit. Take a valium. All those other people have pres canadates????? Damn. I guess I am lazy.
ITS A POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't like go to another thread and cause hate and discontent. Wait....you already have.
You figure out which rules you're so damn smart!!!!!
Now get your unstable ass outta here!!!!!!!!! :eek:

napabob
11-01-2004, 12:13 PM
Damn Bob...you doing ok? You a little serious about this ***boat political shit. Take a valium. All those other people have pres canadates????? Damn. I guess I am lazy.
ITS A POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't like go to another thread and cause hate and discontent. Wait....you already have.
You figure out which rules you're so damn smart!!!!!
Now get your unstable ass outta here!!!!!!!!! :eek:
Starloans,
I am doing ok. I thought that seriousness was part of this page. I don’t feel that because it is a Hot Boat site, that is does not merit thoughtful writings.
I have disliked taking drugs, especially those that are produced by pharmaceuticals.
To prescribe drugs without the proper training is negligent.
All of the other political parties that are not mentioned by the press do have candidates running for the presidency. It is common knowledge. I apologize for calling you lazy, but there was a possible fourth selection for your poll.
The poll was posted and I read it and found it to be incorrect as far as the fourth choice for president. If you deem it to be your personal poll, why didn’t you list the dos and don’ts to it? If you were trying to do funny poll, says so. I can understand political humor.
I did not anticipate such a strong negative reaction from my postings. I have posted on other threads and have had a mixed reactions, I have learned that everyone has an opinion.
I am not ‘damn smart’, that is why I asked the question. The question was about the ‘disclosure’ comment on your reply.
You have labeled me as an ‘unstable ass’, Exclamation marks will not deter me from posting. The only thing that will happen is that this forum will be discontinued after the election, and maybe then, you will not have to respond any more.

Starloans
11-01-2004, 12:30 PM
Starloans,
I am doing ok. I thought that seriousness was part of this page. I don’t feel that because it is a Hot Boat site, that is does not merit thoughtful writings.
I have disliked taking drugs, especially those that are produced by pharmaceuticals.
To prescribe drugs without the proper training is negligent.
All of the other political parties that are not mentioned by the press do have candidates running for the presidency. It is common knowledge. I apologize for calling you lazy, but there was a possible fourth selection for your poll.
The poll was posted and I read it and found it to be incorrect as far as the fourth choice for president. If you deem it to be your personal poll, why didn’t you list the dos and don’ts to it? If you were trying to do funny poll, says so. I can understand political humor.
I did not anticipate such a strong negative reaction from my postings. I have posted on other threads and have had a mixed reactions, I have learned that everyone has an opinion.
I am not ‘damn smart’, that is why I asked the question. The question was about the ‘disclosure’ comment on your reply.
You have labeled me as an ‘unstable ass’, Exclamation marks will not deter me from posting. The only thing that will happen is that this forum will be discontinued after the election, and maybe then, you will not have to respond any more.
Sorry Bob. Shouldn't have called you names.
I started the poll. I didn't want people to do what you did and that is go off and pick it apart. "Who can vote, must be 18, can't be on probation, blah, blah, blah. What did I say? You don't have to comment just vote and see what happens.
But you didn't like one of the options so you had to get into it. It's a political forum. It says right on the forum topic, check with your doctor before entering or whatever. I just wanted to get a vote. And yes there will be people that fit into the 4th option humorous or not. No matter. Bush WILL win tomorrow and not everyone CAN vote.
Sorry again for calling you a name. :frown:

napabob
11-01-2004, 04:42 PM
Sorry Bob. Shouldn't have called you names.
I started the poll. I didn't want people to do what you did and that is go off and pick it apart. "Who can vote, must be 18, can't be on probation, blah, blah, blah. What did I say? You don't have to comment just vote and see what happens.
But you didn't like one of the options so you had to get into it. It's a political forum. It says right on the forum topic, check with your doctor before entering or whatever. I just wanted to get a vote. And yes there will be people that fit into the 4th option humorous or not. No matter. Bush WILL win tomorrow and not everyone CAN vote.
Sorry again for calling you a name. :frown:
Starloans,
A more appropriate selection would have been 'I am not voting'.
There has been one courageous person that has used the 4th entry. It seems that there is a stigma on the word felon. This does not reflect the fact that when the prison sentence is complete, you have paid your debt to society. That is why the three strikes law works so well in California. It addresses the habitual offender. The pictures of felons must upset you, Patty Hearst was a convicted felon, did she give you any concern? Here is a list of felonies that we can ponder on (see link below). Section 11152, 11153, and 11156 should have deterred you from suggesting that I take Valium. Now you are suggesting that I seek the counsel of a doctor, what is next?
http://www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/MC/main/PDFs-BailPenalty/FelonyPenalHealth.pdf
It’s like the RNC has created a list of words that translate into negative meanings.
Liberal = bad
Democrat = bad
Catholic = bad
Activist = bad (those judges should take their cues from the attorney general)
Californians = bad (a state of hot tubers, that damn Taliban from Marin Co.)
Red Sox = bad (the incumbent will lose the election if the team wins the World Series urban myth)
Massachusetts = bad
draft board = bad
Inform the public = bad
felon = bad (because the can vote in certain circumstances)
not being a born again = bad
supply body armor to our troops = bad
supply armored vehicles to our troops = bad
remove pork barrel funding from the Pentagon budget = bad (maybe that’s why our troops don’t have the needed equipment and services that are needed)
inquiries to your poll = bad
everyone and everything is a creation of God = bad (only what man has been able to extort from the verbal teachings and write down as their own interpretation is good)
mickeyfinn, Forkin’Crazy, OGShocker, 1978 Rodgers, Ducatista, and Steve 1, disregarded your initial instructions and posted a reply.
I will not predict a winner; it is still to close to call. You have tremendous faith for an incumbent president who started out as an Episcopalian, then switched to a Presbyterian, and now is a Methodist taking advantage of the faithful. Talk about flip flopping. What is his next stop, Judaism?

bordsmnj
11-01-2004, 04:53 PM
That ain't no sh t!!!
Ah yes, in some states you can vote if you are a felon.... How f cked up is that? :yuk:
lets see i did 2 years for almost killing someone on purpose. i deserved every bit of that time and paid my debt to society. i got off parole in 1999 and haven't busted a law since(well except a couple speedin' tickets). i go to work every day and pay 20k+ a year in income taxes alone. I even suport law inforcement now! why shouldn't i vote? remember stereo typing is ignorent(like my spelling) :idea: unless your talking about liberals. :p

bordsmnj
11-01-2004, 04:57 PM
NapaBob i forgot to sign the neg. rep. points i gave yuh. have i good one - :cool: jas

napabob
11-01-2004, 05:04 PM
NapaBob i forgot to sign the neg. rep. points i gave yuh. have i good one - :cool: jas
Thanks for the heads up.

Starloans
11-01-2004, 08:11 PM
Starloans,
A more appropriate selection would have been 'I am not voting'.
There has been one courageous person that has used the 4th entry. It seems that there is a stigma on the word felon. This does not reflect the fact that when the prison sentence is complete, you have paid your debt to society. That is why the three strikes law works so well in California. It addresses the habitual offender. The pictures of felons must upset you, Patty Hearst was a convicted felon, did she give you any concern? Here is a list of felonies that we can ponder on (see link below). Section 11152, 11153, and 11156 should have deterred you from suggesting that I take Valium. Now you are suggesting that I seek the counsel of a doctor, what is next?
http://www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/MC/main/PDFs-BailPenalty/FelonyPenalHealth.pdf
It’s like the RNC has created a list of words that translate into negative meanings.
Liberal = bad
Democrat = bad
Catholic = bad
Activist = bad (those judges should take their cues from the attorney general)
Californians = bad (a state of hot tubers, that damn Taliban from Marin Co.)
Red Sox = bad (the incumbent will lose the election if the team wins the World Series urban myth)
Massachusetts = bad
draft board = bad
Inform the public = bad
felon = bad (because the can vote in certain circumstances)
not being a born again = bad
supply body armor to our troops = bad
supply armored vehicles to our troops = bad
remove pork barrel funding from the Pentagon budget = bad (maybe that’s why our troops don’t have the needed equipment and services that are needed)
inquiries to your poll = bad
everyone and everything is a creation of God = bad (only what man has been able to extort from the verbal teachings and write down as their own interpretation is good)
mickeyfinn, Forkin’Crazy, OGShocker, 1978 Rodgers, Ducatista, and Steve 1, disregarded your initial instructions and posted a reply.
I will not predict a winner; it is still to close to call. You have tremendous fate for an incumbent president who started out as an Episcopalian, then switched to a Presbyterian, and now is a Methodist taking advantage of the faithful. Talk about flip flopping. What is his next stop, Judaism?
Sorry again Bob. I didn't suggest you seek a doctor. The subtitle on this forum actually suggest it. But I do think you need a valium. :rollside:

Steve 1
11-02-2004, 04:37 AM
9 People voted for the Fraud traitor??? Like what in the hell has he ever DONE besides missing the senate Voting?

LilHarley
11-02-2004, 05:57 AM
It really doesn't matter, Kerry will be taking California. Besides, why should we let Bush bankrupt the country like his other 2 companies! LOL

kahanamoko
11-02-2004, 03:16 PM
"...[T]hey are ruining this nation as it is now."
Funny, I don't think this country is "ruined". I think it's a pretty f**king great place to live and credit that to things like free speech and the right to ascribe to any political belief you wish. Democrat. Republican. Libertarian. Reform Party (whatever happened to that bunch?). American Nazi. Communist. Independent. Whatever.

Steve 1
11-02-2004, 05:59 PM
It really doesn't matter, Kerry will be taking California. Besides, why should we let Bush bankrupt the country like his other 2 companies! LOL
Layoff the pipe and come back when you are slightly more coherent.

Starloans
11-02-2004, 06:07 PM
Funny, I don't think this country is "ruined". I think it's a pretty f**king great place to live and credit that to things like free speech and the right to ascribe to any political belief you wish. Democrat. Republican. Libertarian. Reform Party (whatever happened to that bunch?). American Nazi. Communist. Independent. Whatever.
Kahanamoko.....I don't think I have ever seen someone with that many red chicklets. WTF???? Who you pissin off?????? :argue:

Starloans
11-02-2004, 06:09 PM
Well...I looks like "W" is winning at least in the HB Starloans poll. I'm sure it will be more of the same when I get home and see the news. Or at least I'll have figured out that most boaters are GWB supporters. :smile:

Mrs CP 19
11-02-2004, 07:33 PM
Napa Bob... just a question for you. I seem to hear repeatedly, (including Newsweek and my financial advisor) that the stock market will go to shit if Kerry is elected. Now, if Bush is so bad for the economy, why would this happen? Jill