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Blown 472
11-06-2004, 10:33 AM
…..First, Iraqi expatriate politicians alleged that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction that threatened the US and was linked to al-Qaeda. And he had killed large numbers of Kurds, and of Shiites in East Baghdad and Najaf.
But after he was overthrown and captured, it turned out that there was no WMD or al-Qaeda connecton. Then the Sadrist Shiites proved hard to control, and the United States was called upon to kill thousands of them and to bombard Sadr City, Kut, Najaf and other places, killing rebellious Shiites just as Saddam had done. So in retrospect was Saddam's crushing of the Sadrist uprising in 1999 really different from the US crushing of the same movement in 2004?

Forkin' Crazy
11-06-2004, 10:39 AM
keep going, blown.... you'll get to 10K pretty sooner or later... :hammerhea

Jeanyus
11-06-2004, 02:10 PM
…..First, Iraqi expatriate politicians alleged that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction that threatened the US and was linked to al-Qaeda. And he had killed large numbers of Kurds, and of Shiites in East Baghdad and Najaf.
But after he was overthrown and captured, it turned out that there was no WMD or al-Qaeda connecton. Then the Sadrist Shiites proved hard to control, and the United States was called upon to kill thousands of them and to bombard Sadr City, Kut, Najaf and other places, killing rebellious Shiites just as Saddam had done. So in retrospect was Saddam's crushing of the Sadrist uprising in 1999 really different from the US crushing of the same movement in 2004?
Yes we mave much better weapons.

steelcomp
11-06-2004, 02:44 PM
Yes we mave much better weapons.
we use bigger bullets and have better aim. :D

Cas
11-06-2004, 06:51 PM
besides that, we're letting women help thus humiliating them more

Steve 1
11-06-2004, 06:59 PM
Plus they still deserve Killing.

MagicMtnDan
11-06-2004, 07:50 PM
Blown, I've told you before you need to make sure you take your medication as prescribed. Get yourself a glass of water and take your pills...
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Blown 472
11-06-2004, 09:21 PM
Blown, I've told you before you need to make sure you take your medication as prescribed. Get yourself a glass of water and take your pills...
http://www.xanaxaddiction.info/img/xanax_tablet1.jpg
jesus is that ever getting old.

Blown 472
11-06-2004, 09:21 PM
Plus they still deserve Killing.
And why is that? cuz they is a rabs??

steelcomp
11-06-2004, 09:33 PM
I'd say the Sadrist Shiites , as you call them (I call them terrorist sympathisers, supporters, and terrorists themselves) picked a wrong time to get obstinant, and f uck with the US. What on earth do they expect? We weren't ordered to kill them, we were there and they resisted with force. What on earth do YOU expect?
Blown, this business of repeating this crap about no WMD, and no connection to 911 has just got to stop. The election is over. If you want to get into an itelligent debate, get current, and stop with the garbage. It's been proven that there were WMD's, unequivocally, and also that there were MANY connections between Saddam and 911. You just refuse to hear it. It dosen't get reported in the biased literature you regularly post here, and the main stream media sure isn't going to talk about it, but the reports have been posted here on this site several times from other sources. If you're going to include comments like that in your statements, it just negates any objectivity you MIGHT have about all this.

Blown 472
11-06-2004, 09:35 PM
I'd say the Sadrist Shiites , as you call them (I call them terrorist sympathisers, supporters, and terrorists themselves) picked a wrong time to get obstinant, and f uck with the US. What on earth do they expect? We weren't ordered to kill them, we were there and they resisted with force. What on earth do YOU expect?
Blown, this business of repeating this crap about no WMD, and no connection to 911 has just got to stop. The election is over. If you want to get into an itelligent debate, get current, and stop with the garbage. It's been proven that there were WMD's, unequivocally, and also that there were MANY connections between Saddam and 911. You just refuse to hear it. It dosen't get reported in the biased literature you regularly post here, and the main stream media sure isn't going to talk about it, but the reports have been posted here on this site several times from other sources. If you're going to include comments like that in your statements, it just negates any objectivity you MIGHT have about all this.
hummm I heard rummy and gw say there was no connection, or perhaps they were just hand puppets?

steelcomp
11-06-2004, 09:39 PM
So in retrospect was Saddam's crushing of the Sadrist uprising in 1999 really different from the US crushing of the same movement in 2004?
To answer your question...don't you see a diference between the motivation behind the two...entertaining the idea that your camparison is acceptable? How 'bout the fact that we're trying to liberate a country and he was trying to dictate one? How 'bout the fact that we are trying to give these people freedom and he was killing them?
What part of that is difficult for you to see or understand?

flatnfast
11-06-2004, 09:42 PM
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Blown 472
11-07-2004, 12:08 AM
So in retrospect was Saddam's crushing of the Sadrist uprising in 1999 really different from the US crushing of the same movement in 2004?
To answer your question...don't you see a diference between the motivation behind the two...entertaining the idea that your camparison is acceptable? How 'bout the fact that we're trying to liberate a country and he was trying to dictate one? How 'bout the fact that we are trying to give these people freedom and he was killing them?
What part of that is difficult for you to see or understand?
When does the killing of 50,000 people become liberating? childern blown to bits for freedom?? splain that to me please.

Forkin' Crazy
11-07-2004, 12:10 AM
I'm sure we blew the hell out civilians in France. I guess we should have left them to the Germans... :boxed:

Blown 472
11-07-2004, 12:12 AM
Holy old skool, you guys drag that shit up cuz the prez told you that on cnn, can anyone think for themselves? ****

Forkin' Crazy
11-07-2004, 12:16 AM
Ever read any books on WWII? Watched any documentaries? :messedup:

Blown 472
11-07-2004, 12:19 AM
Ever read any books on WWII? Watched any documentaries? :messedup:
Plenty. So when the french or the jews fought back aginst the occupiors that was wrong?

v-drive
11-07-2004, 05:27 AM
Blown , you need to find someone to explain things to you. I don't know I am thinking someone that has dealt with horses, you are dumb and need to be hit in the head with a 2x4.before you make your standard comment I can think for myself and so can most of the service men and women in Iraq.
I e-mail two soldiers over their frequently and the ones that believe we shouldn't be there are a sparce minority. I think most of them would tell you to move to France you chicken sh it....... :mad: v-drive

Forkin' Crazy
11-07-2004, 06:22 AM
Blown , you need to find someone to explain things to you. I don't know I am thinking someone that has dealt with horses, you are dumb and need to be hit in the head with a 2x4.before you make your standard comment I can think for myself and so can most of the service men and women in Iraq.
I e-mail two soldiers over their frequently and the ones that believe we shouldn't be there are a sparce minority. I think most of them would tell you to move to France you chicken sh it....... :mad: v-drive
Couldn't have said it better myself. How can one have any sense and reasoning, if they don't have anywhere to put it?
BTW, I don't think you have read shit or watched any documentarys... unless they were by Micheal Moore. :hammerhea

Steve 1
11-07-2004, 07:03 AM
And why is that? cuz they is a rabs??
Remember in the movie Unforgiven when Ole Clint was told he shot an unarmed man the Reply was “he should have armed himself”
Learn a little before becoming an even larger pathetic fool!! Or better yet travel over there and stay a while...Arm yourself with the bare basic knowledge of what you trying to carp in here.

steelcomp
11-07-2004, 08:44 AM
When does the killing of 50,000 people become liberating? childern blown to bits for freedom?? splain that to me please.
If you can't see it, It can't be explained to you. You're too tied up in this ****ed up idea of yours that we're the bad guys. I don't mind debating things with you, but when you "act" just plain ignorant, then I'll stop, because I want to call you names. I think it is an act, because you're not stupid. Not at all, but for you to ask a question like that tells me you're either just completely detached from any reality, or just being antagonistic.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think there were children blown to bits for your freedom?
If not, why? I'll tell you this... there were a MILLION soldiers, men, women, who died for YOUR freedom.
Was that OK?

Back Forty
11-07-2004, 09:14 AM
When does the killing of 50,000 people become liberating? childern blown to bits for freedom?? splain that to me please.
I guess you lose. I love the pacifist method. Just keep running away and forget about facing the problem.
Blown, do you live in one of those heavy Luthern areas?
The big pacifist.
If you continue living life by the pacifist/non confrontational rule then soon enough your kind will have to pick up and move again. To bad your kind has been riding the backs of people who are willing to take a stand. The real tragedy is that this is how the liberal/socialist operates. They love to brow beat the non pacifist but find it convenient to live under the relative safety created by the very people that make their safety possible. Thats an insult.
And yes, I have the Menonite/Dunkard background that dates back to the vaudois/ Northern Italy 500-600 AD. I sure am proud that they didn't give up their religion but they chose to run and run and run until they were able to find a place that didn't try to off them. America. To bad they were pacifist. One good thing about being in America since the mid 1700's is the bullshit non confrontational mindset has been all but turned around (atleast in my lineup)
My uncle was the first on that side to say BULLSHIT. He went and joined up with the Marines without my Gramps knowing. He went on to become a Green Beret under Kennedy and served with pride.
Take a minute to be not so self serving for f*cks sake... :rolleyes:
Blown472, I certainly like you as the Blown472 on ***boat. I don't intend to get into a pesonal sh*t match. My above statement is a straight shot and nothing cheap about it.
:coffeycup

Blown 472
11-07-2004, 11:11 AM
So lemme get this straight, It is ok to attack a country that might had ties to 9/11 but yet one that has solid links to it we dont attack?
The people of the country we attack dont want us there as occupiors but they should just stfu and take it as it is better then what they had?
The entire mid east needs to be controlled as it would be better for the world?
I am just trying to understand your mindset.

Back Forty
11-07-2004, 11:36 AM
It is ok to attack a country that might had ties to 9/11 but yet one that has solid links to it we dont attack?
I guess you don't like the idea that your not apart of the presidents daily briefing... I would say that priorities will dictate manor and method. I find it funny that some people think it is their right to know these details and assume that if you aren't apart of them that you're getting screwed. The best part is the conspiracy... It has to be a conspiracy the way you go on and on...
The people of the country we attack dont want us there as occupiors but they should just stfu and take it as it is better then what they had?
I'll assume that you have never been over there and have some other source for this opinion. I have seen it stated here and on other forums like it that it is the absolute opposite according to most of the people coming back. This goes for people in my daily life as well. It is true that some say they have heard otherwise although I think the "not so good" info is nowhere close to a majority of the actual stance over there.
The entire mid east needs to be controlled as it would be better for the world?
Your mistake is worrying about the world. F*ck the rest of the world. If it makes our way of life (majority nonliberal democratic capitalist society) safer in the long run than absolutely.
Let me know if thats flawed in your opinion.
There is a touch of my mindset.

steelcomp
11-07-2004, 07:00 PM
I guess you don't like the idea that your not apart of the presidents daily briefing... I would say that priorities will dictate manor and method. I find it funny that some people think it is their right to know these details and assume that if you aren't apart of them that you're getting screwed. The best part is the conspiracy... It has to be a conspiracy the way you go on and on...
I'll assume that you have never been over there and have some other source for this opinion. I have seen it stated here and on other forums like it that it is the absolute opposite according to most of the people coming back. This goes for people in my daily life as well. It is true that some say they have heard otherwise although I think the "not so good" info is nowhere close to a majority of the actual stance over there.
Your mistake is worrying about the world. F*ck the rest of the world. If it makes our way of life (majority nonliberal democratic capitalist society) safer in the long run than absolutely.
Let me know if thats flawed in your opinion.
There is a touch of my mindset.
Ditto, big time.
Blown, I respect the fact that you believe what you say and are sincere...but what you say only so blatently echoes the bias of the lib media, which has been exposed for what it is as a result of this last election campaign. I really wish you'd entertain the idea of getting a more objective source of info. Where? That's up to you. Only you know what you would be willing to tisten to or hear, but I really think that you've isolated yourself from a lot of info that is totally contradictory to what you say, and verifiable. You're basing your position on a lot of info that's just wrong. Check it out.

steelcomp
11-07-2004, 07:11 PM
Blown472, I certainly like you as the Blown472 on ***boat. I don't intend to get into a pesonal sh*t match. My above statement is a straight shot and nothing cheap about it.
Ya know, I totally ditto this, as well. For whatever it's worth. :cool:

Squirtin Thunder
11-07-2004, 07:15 PM
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