Boat flipping the easy way

[Squirtcha?]

I have dubbed it the "boatisserie"
My buddy and flattie driver Wild Bill (sgdiv7 to those on the vdrive forums) came up with this slick deal. I think it's ingenious as hell. It's made from standard automotive exhaust pipe. He had the pipe at his disposal since he owns Black Canyon Automotive here in Phoenix. The rod to weld it up cost about $20 and that was it. He actually flipped it by himself. The car lift and straps were merely used as a backup safety device just in case the boatisserie wasn't strong enough, but it worked just fine. Since it's only 1/8" wall pipe you couldn't get up on the thing and put your weight on it, but I'd wager that 1/4" wall would be strong enough to support it, and someone working on it. Once the weight was released onto the boatisserie, it actually turned itself over 1/3 of the way due to the steering gear being on that side of the boat. That's why the (red) pogo stick looking thing is there in the next to the last picture.
Or if you just want to get it off the trailer and flip it........... Flipping it the easy way (http://jetboat.homestead.com/Kidsriding.html)
First the bow setup.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/bow.jpg
Close up of the bow eye attachment.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boweyeII.jpg
Closer up of the bow eye. Two pipes one inside the other for strength.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boweye.jpg
Bow from distance.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/bowstand.jpg
Stern shot. Used the cavitation hardware to attach the "t" to. On a jet you could probably use the inside of the pump nozzle?
http://jetboat.homestead.com/cavattach.jpg
Stern from a distance. The boat's weight is completely on the stands in these photos. You can see the yellow nylon strap is just hanging loose under the boat.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/stern.jpg
Boatisserie!
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boatisserie.jpg

[GofastRacer]

Very cool, but what if you have a bare hull?????..

[Norseman]

Very Nice!!!
I've been trying to figure out an easy way to do this for my paint work.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sgdiv7]

Hey Art, I guess you would have to put a bow eye in and be a little creative for the back. I would make something to go up, over and down and bolt to the stringers but it would have to be made of heavier wall pipe. I guess one way or another you have to put holes in the boat. If you plan where the holes go you don't have to go back and plug them.
I made this so I could flip my boat by myself and prove to my neighbor that exhaust pipe was strong enough to hold my boat up.
Squirtcha got me thinking on this idea when he said he was going to do the bottom of his boat and he would need some bodys to help turn the boat over.

[sgdiv7]

Oh ya, the most important part. thanks SQUIRTCHA for posting the photos.

[Squirtcha?]

No prob Bill. Glad to do it.
Incidently I'm planning on flipping mine over around 3:00 tomorrow (sunday) afternoon, if you're free. Since you only made one boatisserie I'm stuck doing it the old fashioned way. Hell at least we get to hang out and talk boats for a while. That's always cool. I've got an alternative plan involving two cherry pickers. Not quite as cool as yours, but it should oughta work. Got Hotfish, Powertrip, Jetheaven, Ty, me, you if you can make it, and maybe Jimmy Sampica. That's probably enough to do it even without the "heavy equipment."

[Squirtcha?]

Very Nice!!!
I've been trying to figure out an easy way to do this for my paint work.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Norseman, the cool thing is you can rotate the boat 360 degrees. I would think that'd be a good thing for painting no? Flip it vertical to get half the bottom and keep your gun upright and perpendicular to the surface. 180 that and get the other half. I'm no painter, but it seems like it could come in handy for easily reaching all surfaces.

[Norseman]

Norseman, the cool thing is you can rotate the boat 360 degrees. I would think that'd be a good thing for painting no? Flip it vertical to get half the bottom and keep your gun upright and perpendicular to the surface. 180 that and get the other half. I'm no painter, but it seems like it could come in handy for easily reaching all surfaces.
I was thinking the same thing!!

[Squirtin Thunder]

Dan,
Great post. Sorry only read every tenth word and looked at the pics. But very good. When I can read better I will come back and check it out better.
Jim

[GofastRacer]

Hey Art, I guess you would have to put a bow eye in and be a little creative for the back. I would make something to go up, over and down and bolt to the stringers but it would have to be made of heavier wall pipe. I guess one way or another you have to put holes in the boat. If you plan where the holes go you don't have to go back and plug them.
I made this so I could flip my boat by myself and prove to my neighbor that exhaust pipe was strong enough to hold my boat up.
Squirtcha got me thinking on this idea when he said he was going to do the bottom of his boat and he would need some bodys to help turn the boat over.
All I do is put a rope through the drain hole with a piece of dowel and hook it to my chain hoist, then use my cherry picker on the front with a rope in the bow eye, lift it on one side and it turns over on it's own!..

[Squirtcha?]

That'll be similar to what I plan on doing today Art. Except I'll be using two cherry pickers (no chain hoist, or solid place high enough to attach one to).

[GofastRacer]

That'll be similar to what I plan on doing today Art. Except I'll be using two cherry pickers (no chain hoist, or solid place high enough to attach one to).
That should work just fine, should be easy enough to do!..

[wsuwrhr]

I would be worried about ripping the bow eye out of my tank.
What do you guys think of that?
I just think the load isn't spread out very far.
Brian

[Squirtcha?]

Hey Brian
I was worried about it too. Turns out, guys have been doing it for years. You'd definitely want to make sure your bow eye is in good shape and tight to the hull though. Mine's brand new and I've checked it to make sure it's secure. It's good ta go.
I think we overestimate the weight of our hulls due to the shear bulk/size of em. If yours is heavy (mine is considered to be a porker at 600 lbs.) it's still not all that much. Figure each end (front and rear) will need to be strong enough to support 300 lbs. They're more awkward than heavy, I think.

[wsuwrhr]

600?
Laughs
Mine bare hull drawfs that number. have you ever seen my website? I had 8-10 people over when it cam time to manhandle my boat during gelcoating.
Brian

[GofastRacer]

I been doing like that since the 80's when I bought my D'Cucci hull brand new. If you think about it if you can hook up to a bow eye on a boat that's sunk and pull it up and float it, you sure should be able to turn a bare hull over with it!..

[Squirtcha?]

600?
Laughs
Mine bare hull drawfs that number. have you ever seen my website? I had 8-10 people over when it cam time to manhandle my boat during gelcoating.
Brian
Doing it by hand I could see where you might think it's that heavy, I've done a couple that way and it's no picnic. Like I said, I think they're more awkward than anything else.
Here's a link to the way I did mine today. Could've done it with three people, but better with four. No lifting involved, just kinda guiding it.
boat flipping and hook measuring. (http://jetboat.homestead.com/Kidsriding.html)

[moneysucker]

If I or Rubber ducky ever invite a bunch of poeple to dirt lot marine for a picnic it is most likely a trick to get people to come help flip over one of the boats. Free food and beer but no food until the boats are flipped. We usually use a cherry picker and a strap around the pump makes things easier. I like the boatissere though. I may have to build one.

[HeRsHeY dOnKeY]

DAMN! there seems to be some hook in dat dere hull huh?
looks like you know what yer doin, thanks for the tech!

[Squirtcha?]

If I or Rubber ducky ever invite a bunch of poeple to dirt lot marine for a picnic it is most likely a trick to get people to come help flip over one of the boats. Free food and beer but no food until the boats are flipped. We usually use a cherry picker and a strap around the pump makes things easier. I like the boatissere though. I may have to build one.
I'll keep that in mind just in case I find myself in your area, hungry, thirsty, and wanting to flip boats over.
DAMN! there seems to be some hook in dat dere hull huh?
looks like you know what yer doin, thanks for the tech!
Thanks, but actually I don't know what I'm doing. Well not practically anyway. I've done lots of reading and checked out many pictures. This'll be the first time I've tried to blueprint a hull. We'll see how it goes. It's so bad I don't think I could possibly screw it up any worse than it is now.
Let's just say that a true professional looked at the pictures and called it
"a severe hook".

[crf311]

Man thanks, I am in the process of restoreing a 69 esuire boat and I'm at the point where the boat needs to be fliped to do some work on the bottom. This will save me major headache's.

[Squirtcha?]

Glad you found it to be of some use. Good luck with your project.

[HOSS]

AWSOME idea! I really need to take the pump out of mine and re-seal it. I will remove pump on traiiler and use pipe on the padeyes on transome. Since I also own a muffler shop this pipe doesn`t cost jack.

[SoCal_fun]

HOSS, wassup.

[SoCal_fun]

where ya been

[SoCal_fun]

where

[SoCal_fun]

ya

[SoCal_fun]

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

[HOSS]

Busy as hell. Bought a shop and it needs work. Alot of it. Owner was on the pipe. Got everything for 40g before he lost it. So you can see that some good can come out of smoking crack.

[mirvin]

Ok I have a stupid question, unless you believe there are "no stupid questions"...
Anyway, is this boat flipping business something that can be done with say a 21 foot daycruiser with what seems to be a fairly heavy hull??
Obviously I would pull the motor and empty the gas tanks, but what about the outdrive? And is there anything else to look out for?
Thanks,
mirvin

[sgdiv7]

The weight of the boat in that photo was about 500 lbs or so and I took everything out of it. I guess you could make it out of heaver meteral and it would work. you need to find the center of gravity or you will never be able to turn it over. I made this because the guy next door to me at work told me that exhaust pipe wouldn't hold up to that much weight. So I bet him 50 bucks and I won. a buddy of mine liked it, so he took photos of it and posted on here. You don't need these things in order to flip a boat all you need is two engine hoists, some strong rope and a few of your buddys and set it down on some real beefy saw horses. The hard part is going to be getting that heavy boat off the trailer. I would strip it down to as close to bare hull as possible to make it lighter.

[mirvin]

Thanks sgdiv7;) I have access to a 9,000lb lift and everything else I'll need.......except the actual flipping part:0
I'm really just fishing for some pointers ...you know, "hey don't forget to..." etc.
My first question is DO I have to take the drive off???
THanks,
mirvin

[e-ticket]

oops!

[e-ticket]

I just flipped mine over to do the bottom and yesterday fliipped it back. I made a rotisseriee (which I will lend out) . Here is a couple of pics from yesterday.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103bot-1.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103flip-1.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103flip-2.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103flip-3.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103flip-4.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103flip-5.JPG

[Punisher]

Hey Big ETicket,
Are you painting the boat yourself or at a shop?Im looking to get my boat painted and need to find a shop before its too late =(

[e-ticket]

Punisher..............check PM

[Punisher]

Hey Big E-Ticket,
My PM box isnt working for me so can you email me at dwnriteflp@aol.com .Thank you for your help.

[dmontzsta]

E-Ticket, that thing sure is coming along from the last time I saw it. :)

[shootingstar72683]

I have dubbed it the "boatisserie"
My buddy and flattie driver Wild Bill (sgdiv7 to those on the vdrive forums) came up with this slick deal. I think it's ingenious as hell. It's made from standard automotive exhaust pipe. He had the pipe at his disposal since he owns Black Canyon Automotive here in Phoenix. The rod to weld it up cost about $20 and that was it. He actually flipped it by himself. The car lift and straps were merely used as a backup safety device just in case the boatisserie wasn't strong enough, but it worked just fine. Since it's only 1/8" wall pipe you couldn't get up on the thing and put your weight on it, but I'd wager that 1/4" wall would be strong enough to support it, and someone working on it. Once the weight was released onto the boatisserie, it actually turned itself over 1/3 of the way due to the steering gear being on that side of the boat. That's why the (red) pogo stick looking thing is there in the next to the last picture.
Or if you just want to get it off the trailer and flip it........... Flipping it the easy way (http://jetboat.homestead.com/Kidsriding.html)
First the bow setup.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/bow.jpg
Close up of the bow eye attachment.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boweyeII.jpg
Closer up of the bow eye. Two pipes one inside the other for strength.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boweye.jpg
Bow from distance.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/bowstand.jpg
Stern shot. Used the cavitation hardware to attach the "t" to. On a jet you could probably use the inside of the pump nozzle?
http://jetboat.homestead.com/cavattach.jpg
Stern from a distance. The boat's weight is completely on the stands in these photos. You can see the yellow nylon strap is just hanging loose under the boat.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/stern.jpg
Boatisserie!
http://jetboat.homestead.com/boatisserie.jpg
Thanks , great set-up

[beernut]

man that looks real light duty!, i would use two engine stands, (harbor-freight ect. )and make some adapters to bolt to the hull, and dom or mild steel tubing isint that pricy when your only buyn a couple feet, (probly do the whole deal for less than $100 with stands), and muffler bends suck! (they pinch and kink the tube, ) i have a 8" aluminum I beam with adjustable end stands that i use for lifting stuff my engine hoist wont fit around

[Xlration Marine]

Bow eye up front. 2 ski tow or transom to trailer eye's. They are the same as the bow eye in most cases.

[71tahiti]

I have a 71 tahiti torino(aka sidewinder,taylor,glastron,ect..) It has a wide beam and would be heavier than the boat flipped in that pic. Anyone have any suggestions or thoughts on this. lol Taller stands?? Im wondering if my bow eye can handle the flip. I would love to flip my boat and do some blueprinting on my hull.

[GAWnCA]

No prob Bill. Glad to do it.
Incidently I'm planning on flipping mine over around 3:00 tomorrow (sunday) afternoon, if you're free. Since you only made one boatisserie I'm stuck doing it the old fashioned way. Hell at least we get to hang out and talk boats for a while. That's always cool. I've got an alternative plan involving two cherry pickers. Not quite as cool as yours, but it should oughta work. Got Hotfish, Powertrip, Jetheaven, Ty, me, you if you can make it, and maybe Jimmy Sampica. That's probably enough to do it even without the "heavy equipment."
Are you still active? Tried your email address on your web site and it no longer works.
Thanks

[bikerboater]

I built one of those deal years ago for doing cars. Basically like 2 oversized engine stands. As someone mentioned, structural steel isn't all that expensive. I used box tubeing and teliscopeing pipe for the swivel part. I drilled a hole in each outer pipe and welded on 1/2 nuts with bolts so you could lock it in any position. I was doing small British sports cars that probably were between 1000-1500lbs stripped down. In the car hobby, they refer to it as a rotiserie restoration. Sure beats standing on you head sanding and painting. Wish I had pics but I sold it to a guy in our club that was doing the same type of car.