What do jetovators do?

[Q-ball]

What is the purpose of the jetovator? Is there a performance benefit, or is it mainly for looks? Just wondering before I spend the cash. Thanks.

[flat broke]

The jetovator will give you control over the ride angle in your boat. I don't know anyone that has one that says it wasn't worth the money. And then of course there's always the rooster tail! You might want to check out Place diverters as well. It's the same principle, but its a little more trouble free as there are no little gears to stip out etc.
Good luck,
Chris www.liquidaddiction.net (http://www.liquidaddiction.net)

[RiverToysJas]

Short Answer: Trim the boat.
Longer Answer: Vector the thrust on a vertical plane, thereby airing out the hull or pushing it into the water.
On my 18' Hawaiian I have an hydrolic jet-o-vator and just by touching the switch in differing water conditions I can feel the change in ride. Smooth water, air it out a bit, rough water - bury the nose. Also if you have young or inexperienced skiers, you NEED to be able to trim the boat for slow speed towing. My opinions may not be as accurate for larger boats.
Just my .02,
RTJas http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

[DickDanger]

The purpose is to keep PWC's off of your ass.....-DD out

[RiverDave]

I was just thinking how much fun that must be to pull a skier with a place diverter.. You could have some serious fun with that.. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
Just outta curiosity, has anyone ever gone "under" the rooster tail?
RD

[RiverToysJas]

I think FlatBroke nearly killed a man that way!
RTJas http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

[RiverDave]

My brother crossed underneath one on our old jetski and he said it was kinda like standing in the shower.. You just don't want to be at the very front of it, or at the very back of it.
RD

[Erik]

My "friend" turned the diverter up on me once while i was skiing. When the stream hit me in the chest it blew me off of my feet & didn't feel too good either. If you go under the main stream its not too bad.

[spectras only]

"needles and pins" if you have a short skirope ,it could knock you right off of your skis !

[MellowYelloW]

one of my buddies was bragging how well he could wake board better than everyone we took him out on my uncle's boat and got him with the diverter....he was pretty pissed.
it was funny as hell though.

[hack job]

all i have to say is ouch , my bro thought it might be funny one day while i was riding along in the tub to test the place. and, let me say it ripped me a new one. its like drinking form a fire hose. not that i have ever done that.

[hack job]

all i have to say is ouch , my bro thought it might be funny one day while i was riding along in the tub to test the place. and, let me say it ripped me a new one. its like drinking form a fire hose. not that i have ever done that.

[flat broke]

Originally posted by RiverToysJas:
I think FlatBroke nearly killed a man that way!
RTJas http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
By how pissed he was you'd think it nearly killed him... http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif Hey Hack Job, why don't you post up and let everyone know what that was like http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif
Seriously though I wouldn't do it to a skier again. Now a PWC... No doubt about it.
Chris www.liquidaddiction.net (http://www.liquidaddiction.net)
Looks like ya beat me to it!
[This message has been edited by flat broke (edited February 01, 2002).]

[RiverDave]

Q-Ball, just outta curiosity are you a player? 9 ball or 8 ball? If your a west coast kinda guy me and a few other players from the boards bang em around down at Hardtimes everyother week.
RD

[FoMoCo]

I second that hurt thing.. My friend has a Diverter on his Bahner, when we go wake boarding he like to nail ya withit! I had a direct hit once, it kinda hurt!!!! What goes around comes around!!!!!!!! Cant wait to knock him of his board this summer!

[boatnam2]

i thought they were designed to waste horsepower.

[boatnam2]

sorry guys j/k

[RiverDave]

Boatnam, you "insensitive" bastard. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
RD

[RiverToysJas]

As a kid I always wanted a 500hp squirt gun, now I have one! The HP isn't wasted - it's put to good use!
RTJas http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

[jetdrive]

Q-ball,
Trust me, it is not just for looks (although that roostertail looks pretty cool too). I can't imagine having a jet without the jetovator. It not only helps to trim the boat, but you can certainly tell the difference in acceleration when you put it all the way in the air (no water resistance, and all of a sudden, a rush of speed). I love it... (in my opinion, it is money well spent).

[superdave013]

Wow, I learn something every day. I thought they were to make a slow boat look fast http://free.***boat.net/ubb/smile.gif
Now I see the light. They are to f--k up your buddie when he's on the end of the rope!
Now if only someone would let me borrow their boat so I could tow my older brother on the tube. I could get some good revenge that way!

[77charger]

cant wait to try mine i bought one the other night while picking up my pump.Will try to have finished this mo.Will be pulling the motor this weekend to ease the pump install and to fix the stringers and engine mount.

[funkytown]

hi, first post. been sit along for awhile now I have a question for some of you. are any of you farmiliar with the panther jetovator. put one on my 21' omega, trims the boat like it should, but doesn't throw the rooster like my friends with the other brand diverters. any help would be very helpful.

[Rivernut]

Why don't they just call it power trim so that everyone knows what the hell they are talking about? American Turbine does, maybe that's why they have taken over the market.

[flat broke]

Originally posted by funkytown:
hi, first post. been sit along for awhile now I have a question for some of you. are any of you farmiliar with the panther jetovator. put one on my 21' omega, trims the boat like it should, but doesn't throw the rooster like my friends with the other brand diverters. any help would be very helpful.
Welcome to the boards funkytown. The answer to your question is fairly simple. The first reason is that the Panther is an Axial pump wich is based off the volume of water not the pressure. This means that your pump displaces a big stream of water at low pressure compared to a Mixed Flow pump that uses a smaller stream with higher pressure. So the thrust doesn't have the same velocity to go skyward. The second reason (I've had a panthter with the diverter) is if you notice, when you look inside your stator housing(end of the pump) and put the diverter in the up position, thrust going out the top part of the aluminum tube they use would actually hit the top portion of the stator housing on exit. So the stream gets nicked and even if you had the pressure, the rooster would be low, fat, and have a funky spray pattern. Cas is about the only guy I know running a panther right now on the boards so if you need additional information (not on the diverter but other Panther stuff) I'd look him up.
Talk to you later,
Chris www.liquidaddiction.net (http://www.liquidaddiction.net)

[Wet Dream]

While on this subject, I was wondering if anyone knows where to get parts, the brass tooth gear in particular that attaches to the cable. I tried CP and just about everywhere else, but no luck. All they have is the worm gear used in a completely different motor box.

[pgf127rt]

Qball, I have a 20' Glastron CVX,which I restored in 1990, it had a Ford engine and the original Berkley pump, when I got it in the water it was an ill handling piece on the river, especially when the water got rough from boat traffic, so I orderd a place diverter with a manual control, first trip to the river it was like the difference between night and day, as a previous poster said, you can air it out on good water and attain a happy medium in the rough water which makes the boat ride much smoother than before, by cutting the impeller to a B and the place diverter, the speed of the boat went from 55 or so to near 65 mph, over the years I have changed to a hydrualic control and installed a 468 Chev. and as soon as the weather get's better I will take it out and GPS it with the new setup.

[DickDanger]

Another good use for it is: when you have a whole Mexican family that is drunk, and starting shit with everyone on the beach, kids throwing mud at everyones rides, is to point your a$$ end at the beach, hit the PD, and stomp on it. Not that I have ever done that or anything.... Heh heh. -DD out

[froggystyle]

Originally posted by Rivernut:
Why don't they just call it power trim so that everyone knows what the hell they are talking about? American Turbine does, maybe that's why they have taken over the market.
Somebody better tell Frank Place that AT took over the market...
When you invent a product that revolutionizes the industry, you can call it whatever you want.

[jweeks123]

Frank didn't "invent" the up/dn nozzle. A fellow named Art Kent, owner of SuperJet, had one on the market before Frank did, but Art didn't "invent" it either. A racer named Ray Hamilton had one on his Tahiti at a race I saw in 1969. But I heard that Roger Weiman may have had a hand in that design. Who knows? By 70 & 71 up/dn nozzles were very common at both the drags and circle races in So Calif. Maybe Frank saw one there!

[RiverToysJas]

I believe Frank's story goes something like ths: He had an 18' or 19' jet in the early 70s and he was trying to teach his young kids to ski but was having trouble keeping the bow down for slow speed skiing. So he set out to invent a way to keep the bow down (and I believe he said there was nothing on the market like it). So he invented the Place Diverter himself. The story is told in an issue of Hot Boat from 2000 or 1999 I think. If I run across the specific issue I'll post it. Perhaps he didn't know of the other products.
RTJas

[spectras only]

You have to buy the patent for the invention to be the rightful "inventor".Torpedoes used counter rotating props since they came out[don't know how long it was patented for ?] ,and Volvo patented it for their SD.After the patent expired , Merc came out with one ! Copy Cats ,or shall I say "splashers" HB ? http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
[This message has been edited by spectras only (edited February 06, 2002).]

[Q-ball]

O.K. next dumb question, what the hell is a place diverter? Help me become jet educated please!!

[spectras only]

Place is the last name of the father of place diverter http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif. The place diverter does what it ment to do,divert the stream of water up and down ,plus side to side http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif,you can figure out the rest http://free.***boat.net/ubb/tongue.gif

[LEMON SQUIRT]

nice try FoMoCo your just pissed cause I nailed ya in front of the ladies and you couldnt get me back. damn it was funny. I second the motion on the PWC'S I've nailed a few so hard its blown them clear off thier rides. get a little liquired and cruise kinda slow with a fat wake it bait's them in every time. I run a place diverter its less trouble and parts than a jetovator