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Jet Hydro
02-04-2005, 08:06 AM
Jet Boat ....Not.... but it is a Jet.... have you seen this guy???? I bet you have :D http://www.***boat.com/forums/customavatars/avatar1111_3.gif
Guy riding a Jet Ski thinks he's hot stuff hopping the water. That is, of course, until he gets knocked off his watercraft by the thing with the real skills.
http://www.plsthx.com/disp.php?type=m&id=108

blown428fe
02-04-2005, 10:16 AM
Damn,I hate that freakin sound. Thats a funny clip, too bad that couldnt happen more often. :D

Heatseeker
02-04-2005, 11:01 AM
That's too freakin' funny!
:rollside: :rollside: :rollside:

Jet Hydro
02-04-2005, 02:52 PM
I bout fell out of my chair when I saw it....lol....
Every time we go to test the Hydro some Clown on a jet ski always shows up, wish I knew how to call that fish :D

sleekvino
02-04-2005, 03:59 PM
he got what was comin to him :hammer2: :hammer2: :hammer2:

bakerjet
02-04-2005, 04:17 PM
Damn,I hate that freakin sound. Thats a funny clip, too bad that couldnt happen more often. :D
i agree, that sound chaps my a$$.! :lightsabe

berk
02-04-2005, 05:13 PM
you guys run open headers and actually have the balls to complain about a little jet ski? ha! i am willing to bet there are more complaints every time you guys are out than any jet ski.

blown428fe
02-04-2005, 05:50 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

malcolm
02-04-2005, 08:09 PM
Boy Berk, you always seem to be playing devil's advocate. What's up? Are you a jet skier trying to hide in here with the big boys? :D

Mighty Thor
02-04-2005, 08:45 PM
Funny how everyone has been complaining about the attitude toward the boaters from the Havasu residents/cops/etc but same attitude is fine if it is aimed at the jet ski folks. Guess it depends on who's joy is being squashed. I used to get annoyed at the clack clack of the skateboards down town till I got a bunch of flack for the sound of my snowmobile in the national forest. seems like there is always somebody out there that will complain about what someone else finds as a good time. Tolerance is important people cause if we all can't use the water together we may all have to loose it together.

Squirtin Thunder
02-04-2005, 09:10 PM
Funny how everyone has been complaining about the attitude toward the boaters from the Havasu residents/cops/etc but same attitude is fine if it is aimed at the jet ski folks. Guess it depends on who's joy is being squashed. I used to get annoyed at the clack clack of the skateboards down town till I got a bunch of flack for the sound of my snowmobile in the national forest. seems like there is always somebody out there that will complain about what someone else finds as a good time. Tolerance is important people cause if we all can't use the water together we may all have to loose it together.
God of thunder,
Where the hell have you been ???
Jim

Mighty Thor
02-04-2005, 09:34 PM
Lurkin :) Bought a bunch of seagoin poxy putty and been waitin for it to warm up.

LVjetboy
02-05-2005, 12:38 AM
"Funny how everyone has been complaining about the attitude toward the boaters from the Havasu residents/cops/etc but same attitude is fine if it is aimed at the jet ski folks."
Thor...one very important difference...
Sound.
There's sounds you love and sounds you hate. I bet there's more than one who loves the sound of a big block. I do. Is there anyone out there and I mean anyone (even jet skiers) who loves the sound of a jet ski leaf blower weed eater? Gotta be one of the most annoying sounds ever made. Now multiply by 4 and circle endlessly in front of your campsite like the dude in the picture. You get the picture?
It goes on and on and on and on. If you or they don't like the sound of a BBC and open headers, that's fine. But when's the last time you saw a big block circle endlessly in front of your campsite jumping wakes? Not often if at all. Big power usually goes from point a to point b...not small circles in front of you. Unlike those annoying insects of lake toys...circling endlessly.
So yes I think there is a difference. And no, I don't think you can compare the two. Apparantly...they even annoy sword fish.
jer

switchin'addiction
02-05-2005, 08:05 AM
you guys run open headers and actually have the balls to complain about a little jet ski? ha! i am willing to bet there are more complaints every time you guys are out than any jet ski.
I would have to disagree with you berk! I used to be one of these jerkoff jet ski owners so I feel I am "qualified" to say they sound like shit, are annoying to most people, dangerous, and people riding them don't look anywhere near as "cool" as they think they do. The people they see looking at them are staring in anger, not in appreciation. I agree with what Mighty Thor said in his post, but I will take a BB circling my campground over a damn jet ski any day of the week.

Mighty Thor
02-05-2005, 10:34 PM
Problem is that the rich man with the lake front house don't like the sound or sight of anyone out on "his" lake/river/beach/forest/desert and he has lots of friends on the city counsel County board etc and he's gonna pass a law that gets you all off his lake/river/beach/forest/desert. If we don't start supporting each other's rights to use the recreation areas we aren't going to have them. As soon as one group (hot boats) can be excluded cause someone dissaproves, the rest of us will get picked off one at a time. I would love to show you some beautiful mountain lakes around here, but we would have to walk there cause a few years ago the hikers pitched a fit about all the noise that off road vehicles made and guess what, the 4 wheelers got tossed. Motorcycle riders round here were pretty smug till the next legislature closed the roads to them too. Horse riders were right there supporting the anti motor groups. This year the horses were banned cause they poop on the trails and hikers can't walk around. Kind of makes me want to walk up to those jet ski guys and say " We need to talk."

berk
02-06-2005, 12:03 AM
"Funny how everyone has been complaining about the attitude toward the boaters from the Havasu residents/cops/etc but same attitude is fine if it is aimed at the jet ski folks."
Thor...one very important difference...
Sound.
There's sounds you love and sounds you hate. I bet there's more than one who loves the sound of a big block. I do. Is there anyone out there and I mean anyone (even jet skiers) who loves the sound of a jet ski leaf blower weed eater? Gotta be one of the most annoying sounds ever made. Now multiply by 4 and circle endlessly in front of your campsite like the dude in the picture. You get the picture?
It goes on and on and on and on. If you or they don't like the sound of a BBC and open headers, that's fine. But when's the last time you saw a big block circle endlessly in front of your campsite jumping wakes? Not often if at all. Big power usually goes from point a to point b...not small circles in front of you. Unlike those annoying insects of lake toys...circling endlessly.
So yes I think there is a difference. And no, I don't think you can compare the two. Apparantly...they even annoy sword fish.
jer
there might be sounds that YOU hate, but i only see people having fun burning gas.

berk
02-06-2005, 12:06 AM
Funny how everyone has been complaining about the attitude toward the boaters from the Havasu residents/cops/etc but same attitude is fine if it is aimed at the jet ski folks. Guess it depends on who's joy is being squashed. I used to get annoyed at the clack clack of the skateboards down town till I got a bunch of flack for the sound of my snowmobile in the national forest. seems like there is always somebody out there that will complain about what someone else finds as a good time. Tolerance is important people cause if we all can't use the water together we may all have to loose it together.
YES. tolerance is what make s the world possible. anyone without it is an a**hole. hey i hate sail boats but i wont ever admit it. and no i never owned a jet ski, but they are fun as hell.

berk
02-06-2005, 12:08 AM
I would have to disagree with you berk! I used to be one of these jerkoff jet ski owners so I feel I am "qualified" to say they sound like shit, are annoying to most people, dangerous, and people riding them don't look anywhere near as "cool" as they think they do. The people they see looking at them are staring in anger, not in appreciation. I agree with what Mighty Thor said in his post, but I will take a BB circling my campground over a damn jet ski any day of the week.
open headers carry way farther than a jet ski sound

LVjetboy
02-06-2005, 12:14 AM
Hmm... Thor, is this a case for the many...jet skiers...ruining it for the few...hot boaters?
Where I typically boat, there are no rich lake front a**holes. Why? 'Cause there's no lake front property, period. But there is the continued march towards ever increasing regulation and restriction as everywhere. That sucks!
But I'm not sure banding with an obnoxious interest group like jet skiers in hopes of fending off regulation is good...even if that group is fighting the same restrictions. Safety in numbers? If you band with them, aren't you associating your worth with their faults?
The other day I was at Lake Powell walking the dock saw a couple 2 cycle outboards start and run. Lake Powell water is crystal clear you could probably drink it. These seemingly new 2 cycle outboard Mercs spewing smoke and oil with a rainbow sheen on the water...burning oil and polluting both air and water all with that typically annoying leaf blower sound. My BBC doesn't do that.
Are we the same?
Should we hook up with them too? Why not switch to 4 cycle? Should we also back 2-cycle jet skis in the name of solidarity or safety in numbers? Or support the seemingly uncontrolled growth of the lake lice fad in hopes of preserving hot boat freedom?
A hard question. Nobody wants their right to choice taken away. But I feel lake lice proliferation IS a problem if not THE problem on many lakes. Eventually drawing unneeded attention to hot boats who've been boating safely since well before lake lice entered the scene. So I have a hard time with the idea of aligning the jet boating industry with the jet ski industry in a lame attempt to appease neo-nazi tree huggers who attack our passion.
jer

LVjetboy
02-06-2005, 12:21 AM
berk posted: "there might be sounds that YOU hate, but i only see people having fun burning gas."
Yes there are sounds I hate. Also sounds I love. May the annoying sound of a jet skier (or ATV) just having fun and burning gas be with you always circling your campsite forever berk. Take that as you apparently see it. :D
jer

LVjetboy
02-06-2005, 12:51 AM
"no i never owned a jet ski, but they are fun as hell."
I've rode both standup and sitdown. So I know what a jet ski's like. Fun as hell? Give me a break! I'd rather drive a 65 mph jet boat than a 55 mph jet ski. Jason, my friend at work claimed his modified (mostly intake stuff) standup jet ski would do 65. We met on Lake Mead and I paced him...only 55. We stopped, compared speed, he was unhappy. Then we drove from Callville Bay to short of Temple Bar...a moderately long trip even though mostly smooth. He was tired...wet and ready to go back. We were dry, with stereo and ready to party.
Yes I drove his modified standup and I drove a standup on Lake Chelan, Wa. My wife and I also drove sitdowns on Lake Mead. The whole time I was thinking..."Wish I was in the jet boat not on this jet ski" Just my thoughts take it as you wish.
Yes jet skis are cool for someone who doesn't have the means to own a boat, regular or hot. But fun as hell? Excuse me?? That's either an exageration, or truth from someone who's not accustom to thrill.
Jumping wakes and endlessly circling 'cause you got nothing else to do? Maybe you should take a ride in a real jet boat then decide what's fun as hell? Jet skis are typically (not always you copy) operated by someone who doesn't have the experience of a boat owner. In the end, both ANNOYING and DANGEROUS While introducing younger people to a water hobby, at the same time threatening true hot boaters passion.
jer

LVjetboy
02-06-2005, 12:57 AM
"open headers carry way farther than a jet ski sound"
And finally berk. Remember...endless circling in front of your campsite? On and on and on and on and on. You get the picture? Are we talking the coolness of an open header jet boat running point a to b, or the abnoxious jet skier endlessly circling jumping wakes in front of your campsite?
jer

switchin'addiction
02-06-2005, 08:26 AM
open headers carry way farther than a jet ski sound
Yes you are correct, but you only have to listen to them as they are driving away from you. That never happens with a jet skier. Have you ever been in your lawnchair on a sandbar and had a BB with open headers run circles 30 feet off the shoreline in front of you? Didn't think so. Do you think this ever happens with a jet ski? My guess is everyone posting in this thread has had it happen to them. I just don't understand why jet skiers seem to have the need for an audience. Granted there are a few exceptions, but for the most part I personally find them annoying as hell. Just my opinion, but it's probably not worth much.

Jet Hydro
02-06-2005, 12:49 PM
I have 2 jet ski`s for my kid`s and my girlfriend, I hate Jet ski`s, not for the noise but for the way most people ride them. Right in front of me most of the time! My kids ride my ski`s with respect of others or I`d sink them to the bottom of the lake..... remember I hate Jet Ski`s. I also hate ATV as I race motocross but there too I have some ATV`s for the kids to ride. It`s all about the way things are driven that makes me hate em. Most Jet Ski`s and ATV riders should be shot ;)

Brooski
02-06-2005, 06:41 PM
there might be sounds that YOU hate, but i only see people having fun burning gas.
But the big difference is that most jet skiers are DANGEROUS! In my many years of going to the lake, I have only observed 2 collisions between 2 boats, but have knowledge of alot of collisions between jet skis and boats. I have also seen jet skis run over swimmers near the shore, run over anchor lines, and cut off boats pulling skiers. One idiot passed under the ski rope between the boat and skier. Every hobby has its share of idiots, but I think the ratio is the greatest with jet skis. Just my .02

Mighty Thor
02-07-2005, 07:49 PM
But I'm not sure banding with an obnoxious interest group like jet skiers in hopes of fending off regulation is good...even if that group is fighting the same restrictions. Safety in numbers? If you band with them, aren't you associating your worth with their faults?
jer
Safety or power in numbers , Just look at the NRA Not everyone agrees on how shooting should be reresented and not everyone agrees that assault weapons should be protected along with shotguns, but one voice in the political arena carries serious weight. Also it is easier to modify the behavior or actions of a group from within than it is to make change by complaining as an outsider. Who are you more likely to listen too, your buddy who wants to make a point or your enemy who wants to put an end to your activity.
I would like to see all motorized recreationists band together to work on preserving the use of property for us all even while working at resolving the inevitable differences that will exist between the various groups. Again, we face a common enemy but they will use the differences to split the groups and eliminate them one at a time. I have seen it here and elsewhere.
I know that safety is an issue, again, look at the NRA. There is almost nothing more dangerous than an idiot with a gun and yet there are way's to try to educate those who are merely ignorant rather than stupid. Some however are beyond help.

LVjetboy
02-08-2005, 03:05 AM
In the real world you may be right Thor. Just doesn't seem right. Maybe instead, us hot boaters who ruled before the jet ski craze should band together to make our voices louder? Or hold back until they kill off jet skis...good riddance...then stike back with vengengce? In some localized places, like Havasu, I'd say hot boats may be out of control. There IS a saturation point no matter the drive or boat choice. Overall on the lakes I've boated it's not hot boats but jet skis. A matter of pure numbers and driver experience. But even the most pro-motorized recreationist has gotta cringe after listening all day to an inceasant buzzing from circling 2-cycles?
jer

Fogged Gullwing
02-08-2005, 08:57 PM
Brooski register your boat in AZ then you won't have to worry about Taxes!!! How is Naci? It can't be full but how far up is it?
As far as the jet ski battle goes I still have mine I would not take it to the river ever again. Yeah it sounds like a chain saw but it was fun at the time I bought it. I raced for about two years until I got ran over by two ski's at long beach. The only thing that I would consider doing with it is going back to the ocean and jumping waves with it. That's a rush you can get really big air without worrying about being in the hospital for days if you crash. The worst thing that happened to PWC was the sit down. This allowed any towel head / Mexican without a drivers license to go out on the water. And typicly they drive the same way on the water as they drive on the road.
My 2 Cents BK

Brooski
02-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Brooski register your boat in AZ then you won't have to worry about Taxes!!! How is Naci? It can't be full but how far up is it?
Hey neighbor! Not boat taxes. Ventura County doesnt charge taxes if the value is under $5000. Income taxes! My pay went up substantially in the last year and a half, so I knew I would take a hit, just not as large as this. Oh well, thy maketh and taketh away........
Naci is great. Almost full, 20 feet down from capacity, which means about 20 feet away from the campgrounds. They wont let it get any higher until March 1st, then they will let if fill completely, if rain comes. It is gonna be a great season this year. Check out the Lake Naci Bash thread on Hot Spots West. I plan on going up in the near future. If I do, I will post some pics.
Naci Photo (http://www.nacimientoresort.com/marinabobs.htm)

Fogged Gullwing
02-08-2005, 09:34 PM
Sorry about that but bigger income means you have to create better write off's!!!! I've still got my side business that I use for my tax plan. I haven't paid more than 800.00 dollars in fed taxes for fifteen years. Bernard J Lund
Southland Business service Woodland hills Ca. Try Him out He's a genius!!!
Naci is just 20 feet down!!!! Damn we went skiing when the mid state fair was there and it was a mud puddle. Got to see Boston at the fair it was cool only the two original guys from thre band but they had a new sexy chick as there bass player that was worth the entire show. Ventura still does give you the luxury tax on the boat. I was paying 45-65 bucks on top of registration I pay a flat 15.00 bucks a year for AZ reg.
Later BK

LVjetboy
02-09-2005, 12:27 AM
"This allowed any towel head / Mexican without a drivers license to go out on the water."
You know...I've never actually seen a towel headed Mexican driving a jet ski :D Mostly young dumb white kids where I boat.
jer