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I went flying today...well ...hovering, anyway...I went in an R-22....which in real life seems about the size of a small car.....Quite the humbling experience for a guy who used to think he could fly anything :D ....This is nothing like fixed wing at all.....and you stay quite busy .....definately a challenge here are some pics....
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0048td.JPG
Tiny little tail rotor...
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0043td.JPG
Instrument panel...This model is instrument rated....however I cant see how you could look at charts ....or change anything in flight if ATC asked....as busy as you are... :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0044td.JPG
Hovering around...
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0045td.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0046td.JPG
Back on the ground.....in one piece... :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0049td.JPG
RiverOtter
02-04-2005, 01:23 PM
Avation underwriters call those things "Frusterated Palm Trees" :D
Tom Brown
02-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Way cool, Brian. :cool:
Don't forget your GUMP check. :D
Ziggy
02-04-2005, 02:14 PM
They must have known you were coming Brian...They put danger signs on it :D
What is it? Bell, Hughie???(for us avionically challanged folks) I see those around our area too, sound like VW bug motors...
RACER52
02-04-2005, 02:33 PM
yes they are fun, I have actually simulated an auto-rotation in an R22.
talk about :eek:
Wouldnt want to do it without the option of powering back up..
Tom Brown
02-04-2005, 02:46 PM
yes they are fun, I have actually simulated an auto-rotation in an R22.
talk about :eek:
My understanding is that each pilot must do an autorotation to get their license. I assume the autorotation must be successful.
FMluvswater
02-04-2005, 03:20 PM
I went flying today...well ...hovering, anyway...I went in an R-22....which in real life seems about the size of a small car.....Quite the humbling experience for a guy who used to think he could fly anything :D ....This is nothing like fixed wing at all.....and you stay quite busy .....definately a challenge here are some pics....
Hovering around...
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0045td.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181DSCF0046td.JPG
WTF? :confused: No aerial view pics? :D :p Seriously though way cool Jbb. :cool: :)
WTF? :confused: No aerial view pics? :D :p Seriously though way cool Jbb. :cool: :)
lol...thanks...I think the highest altitude I saw today was about 25 feet...and once he let me try flying .....well those pics would not be very steady... :rollside:
Tom Brown
02-04-2005, 03:32 PM
Don't be a fraidycat. Your hands won't be off the stick off the stick very long to squeeze off a couple of pics. I'd like to see a picture of your instructor's expression while you do that?
Sleek-Jet
02-04-2005, 03:51 PM
Hey Brian... it's a good rule of thumb not to fly in anything where the wings travel faster than the fuselage.... :D
I've got a video, shot in secret, of JBB's first flight. Hang on, I'll go get it. :D
Don't be a fraidycat. Your hands won't be off the stick off the stick very long to squeeze off a couple of pics. I'd like to see a picture of your instructor's expression while you do that?
At one point ....lol....he asked me to stop fighting him on the cyclic stick...I thought the resistance was just built in... :p
when we got done ....I was covered in sweat.... :rollside:
Hey Brian... it's a good rule of thumb not to fly in anything where the wings travel faster than the fuselage.... :D
I've got a video, shot in secret, of JBB's first flight. Hang on, I'll go get it. :D
step on the wrong pedal...and I found the wings and fuselage will equalize in speed... :idea:
Kachina26
02-04-2005, 03:54 PM
Awesome!!! I really want to try fixed wing eventually.
Sleek-Jet
02-04-2005, 04:16 PM
JBB's first flight... BANG!! (http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/heli_crash_(self_taught).wmv)
:D
More collective... NO, NO.... RIGHT PEDEL, RIGHT PEDEL.... LEFT CYCLIC... LEFT CYLIC.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
So, are you doing the whole get my Rotorwing liscense, or was this just for fun???
Maybe it wouldn't be such a challenge if you weren't posting vids on here at the same time. :hammer2: :D
Infomaniac
02-04-2005, 05:57 PM
Looks like fun man.
Why are all the trees pruned to the same level ? :idea:
coolchange
02-04-2005, 06:05 PM
Had a friend crash one of those in another friends backyard. All I gotta say is ROTOR SPEED!
Sleek-Jet
02-04-2005, 06:09 PM
....Don't forget your GUMP check. :D
I'm impressed Brown....
JBB's first flight... BANG!! (http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/heli_crash_(self_taught).wmv)
:D
More collective... NO, NO.... RIGHT PEDEL, RIGHT PEDEL.... LEFT CYCLIC... LEFT CYLIC.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
So, are you doing the whole get my Rotorwing liscense, or was this just for fun???
When he turned it over to me .....It looked surprisingly like that I imagine....
I am looking for a rating....This instructor has 200 hrs total time and only in the R22....I am going to another place that has a Schweitzer ....which is bigger and more powerful next week....we'll see...
spectras only
02-04-2005, 06:56 PM
I remember when this little sucka was introduced for 70 K
cdn :smile: .Make sure the tailrotor gear has oil in it. An
instructor and sudent got killed here recently for the lack of
it :( .Friend of mine had a Bell 47 for logging in the early
80's .Unfortunately crashed in fog into a mountain .I stick
with model helis myself [gas bell 47 , micro electric Hornet=
scale Schweitzer] . Have fun and take pics from the air next time
:)
moneypit
02-04-2005, 07:49 PM
Hey JBB...... Fertilize the lawn
PICKLEtheLOAD
02-04-2005, 08:22 PM
Jbb...trust me dude, the learning curve is exponential. I have over 1,000 hours rotary wing time...and its a blast! Hang in there. Personally, I opt for the 4,000 SHP MH-60S, but then again...it aint MY dime. :D
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mh_60s/images/MH60S_2.jpg
Jbb...trust me dude, the learning curve is exponential. I have over 1,000 hours rotary wing time...and its a blast! Hang in there. Personally, I opt for the 4,000 SHP MH-60S, but then again...it aint MY dime. :D
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mh_60s/images/MH60S_2.jpg
lol..It better be exponential....or else It may take me 1000 hrs ....to get hovering down... :D
Sleek-Jet
02-05-2005, 05:04 AM
When he turned it over to me .....It looked surprisingly like that I imagine....
I am looking for a rating....This instructor has 200 hrs total time and only in the R22....I am going to another place that has a Schweitzer ....which is bigger and more powerful next week....we'll see...
I've had a couple instructors like that.... I swear one guy was blowing the ink dry on his paper work as I walked through the door. :hammerhea
Good luck Brian, and keep us posted.
They must have known you were coming Brian...They put danger signs on it :D
What is it? Bell, Hughie???(for us avionically challanged folks) I see those around our area too, sound like VW bug motors...
Yeah....lol....
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/181danger.jpg
It takes forty hours of instruction to get a pilot's license, be it fixed wing or rotary. Back in the 80's I did a trade out deal, construction work for a helo ticket.
I got around 27 hours of instruction in a Bell 206L before I made some interesting discoveries. Granted, this was before the advent of the Robinson R-22 and R-44. Those helicopters have changed the landscape quite a bit.
1.) To get any type of insurance at all, a pilot must have at least 500 hours in stick time.
2.) Turbine helicopter (like the 206L) rental rates were around $400 per hour at the time.
3.) Number 1 and number 2 equal $200K. Then rent a bird for $400 a hour. I'm not great at math, but I figured this one out.
However, it was a great experience. Dang, why do things that are fun cost so much?
It takes forty hours of instruction to get a pilot's license, be it fixed wing or rotary. Back in the 80's I did a trade out deal, construction work for a helo ticket.
I got around 27 hours of instruction in a Bell 206L before I made some interesting discoveries. Granted, this was before the advent of the Robinson R-22 and R-44. Those helicopters have changed the landscape quite a bit.
1.) To get any type of insurance at all, a pilot must have at least 500 hours in stick time.
2.) Turbine helicopter (like the 206L) rental rates were around $400 per hour at the time.
3.) Number 1 and number 2 equal $200K. Then rent a bird for $400 a hour. I'm not great at math, but I figured this one out.
However, it was a great experience. Dang, why do things that are fun cost so much?
Stop raining on my parade!.... :mad: .... :D ...Besides ...its only money......If I were'nt doing this ...I would probably waste it on something frivolous....like a boat.... :p
Stop raining on my parade!.... :mad: .... :D ...Besides ...its only money......If I were'nt doing this ...I would probably waste it on something frivolous....like a boat.... :p
:D
It's like I said, why do the fun things turn you upside down and shake out your pockets?
:D
It's like I said, why do the fun things turn you upside down and shake out your pockets?
how long was it before you could hover?
how long was it before you could hover?
About five hours of dual. Cripes, who knew that an eighth of an inch could mean so much???? :D
About five hours of dual. Cripes, who knew that an eighth of an inch could mean so much???? :D
I could live with an 1/8 in travel meaning so much....Whats hard for me ...is the lag time till something happens....most fixed wing stuff I have flown is instant....its somewhat unnerving at 20 ft when the guy says ...just give a little input ....and see what happens... :rollside:
Havasu Cig
02-05-2005, 08:15 PM
It will become second nature once you gey used to it. I have a commercial rotor wing ticket and quite of bit of fixed wing time as well and I feel alot more comfortable in a helicopter.
I know some of the high time fixed wing guys that were doing rotor wing transitions seemed to have a harder time because they were so used to the way they were already doing stuff in a plane. Stick with it, flying helicopters is a blast!!!
It will become second nature once you gey used to it. I have a commercial rotor wing ticket and quite of bit of fixed wing time as well and I feel alot more comfortable in a helicopter.
I know some of the high time fixed wing guys that were doing rotor wing transitions seemed to have a harder time because they were so used to the way they were already doing stuff in a plane. Stick with it, flying helicopters is a blast!!!
Comfortable...lol...It was not very warm yesterday....and when we landed ....I was soaked.....lol....I used to give sim checks for Flight engineer ratings ...and loved making them sweat.....paybacks are a bitch...lol
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