Eliminator Scorpion?

[riverlover]

Hey whatever happened to the Eliminator Scorpion? Did someone buy the mold? Also, I know that some guys have tunnels (Daytona, Shadow, etc..) and I've heard "they can get away from ya". Why is that? I've ridden in a 21' Daytona with a 300 Merc and it seemed pretty nice.
Just curious.
RL
[This message has been edited by riverlover (edited August 23, 2001).]

[Terrible Buddhist]

I don't think Scorpian was made by Eliminator, though I could be wrong. The Scorpian was a really sweet looking boat. I had decided that was the one I wanted as my next boat, but it got a lot of negative feedback from the jetting community. Seems the hull was great for a prop but did not lend itself that well to a jet. There is a dealer in Az...(480) 983-6019, they can probably answer your questions better than me.

[jeff-in-ky]

Eliminator built a scorpion, Jet Boat Engineering (now Firehawk) built one (copy). I had a jet, it ran exceptionally well, just a little wet in the rough stuff.

[HavasuBarney]

Scorpion was built by Eliminator, but there were two versions, a CA model and one built in WI. The WI version was much faster.
Sam Baker took the bottom and started building Rapid Craft Riots with it, Rapid Craft is out of business but still have the mold. A second mold was sold to Obsession Boats, they made a heavy lay-up version that did not do too well and have gone belly up too.
The CA vesion (with notches) may be flating around somewhere....

[BLOWNDRAGBOAT]

Hey Jeff....Go check this website out and tell me if this is the same hull as the scorpion. It is called CUSTOMMARINE.NET. I called Firehawk and they told me they sold all of the mlds except the 26ft model. There is a guy in Oklahoma that appearently purchased the molds from firehawk. I spoke the the guy and he told me he would send me some pictures this week so I can see the boat in better detail. Go check it out and tell me if that is the same boat. This guy tells me that it is THE same mold previously being built as a CHEYENNE. LEt me know

[riverlover]

Somehow I thought the middle fork was longer than the pic at custommarine.net. Why do so many builders go tits up?
RL

[old rigger]

riverlover,
go to Advantage boats web site, look at the 20 banshee. Is this the nose you were thinking of????
This is the hull we set the ETII record with. 118mph, single carbed chevy, running an I/O

[jeff-in-ky]

BLOWNDRAGBOAT-It does not appear to be the same boat, if it is they changed the top deck substantially. The outside "forks" on mine extended out from the main deck further, also the deck was totally different. Mine was a 1990 model. If you are looking for a 20' boat Warhawk in Winfield, AL makes a fairly nice one. E-mail me at jeff_blanton@hotmail.com if you need any info. I may be talking to you about a blower for my boat.

[picklefork1]

I currently have a 21' Crusader Scorpion Picklefork, "with no nose", whats the diff, between that and the eliminator scorpion?

[jeff-in-ky]

Pickle- The Scorpion was 20' long and about 7-8" narrower than most 21' pickleforks that I am familiar with. You could easily set a Scorpion inside a 21' Daytona with room to spare.

[BLOWNDRAGBOAT]

Crap it just dawned on me.....I think the scorpion everyone is referring to is from Scorpion marine. They either bought the molds or splashed the Youngblood Tx-19 and TX-20 which is also being built by another company and its being called a Condor. Now unless I am wrong, the warhawk is identical to the youngblood. HHMMMMMM
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[riverlover]

OK it seems alot of people know what boat I'm talking about but, what's with the "They can get away from ya" stuff. I'm assuming that means they can be hard to control or they get real loose at high speed. Any thoughts?

[Heatseeker]

I've never ridden in a tunnel jet, but I've heard the stories also.
I've heard they(tunnel hulled jets) get real squirrely if they blow an engine. I have a buddy who tells me that when he blew his up several years ago, at wot, the boat pitched one way and he another(over the front deck).
His story has kept me from buying a tunnel(my wife says the bilge rats are too young for that sh*t).Too bad...

[hot_rod]

My 2 cents... I have also herd many rumors about Jets in general. I think that the design of, or lack there of contributes to these stories. From my own personal experience I was running at WOT (about 65mph)in my 21 daytona when the engine blew and the boat just stopped as if I had just turned off the key. The boat also feels very stable. I am about to find out how it feels over 65mph, but I think if you pick the right hull for what you want to do and have it rigged correctly you should be just as safe in a jet as any other boat. Any boat can 'get away from ya' when you exceed the limits of it's intended design.
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[Eddy]

Originally posted by riverlover:
Hey whatever happened to the Eliminator Scorpion? Did someone buy the mold? Also, I know that some guys have tunnels (Daytona, Shadow, etc..) and I've heard "they can get away from ya". Why is that? I've ridden in a 21' Daytona with a 300 Merc and it seemed pretty nice.
Just curious.
RL
[This message has been edited by riverlover (edited August 23, 2001).]
Back in April of 1990, Hot Boat Mag.did an article on a blown Eliminator Tunnel Jet. The boat was named Danger Zone