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Kerny
03-21-2005, 10:28 PM
I tried rebuilding the ol 460. I honed the cylinders got the crank back in with new bearings, went to put one piston in the cylinder, put the rod cap on with new bearings, tightened it down to specs, now with only one piston I can not turn the crank one bit. I got the stock bearings from summit. they are a little bigger than the old ones but.....I need to find a good shop in the Upland area to finish the bottom end..any help would be great.

LakesOnly
03-21-2005, 11:31 PM
Unbolt that con rod and see if your cranks spins. One distinct possibility is that you have the wrong size rod bearings...but it could be something else.
I can hook you up with a great guy in the San Fernando valley to do your shortblock or whole engine, if need be...that's just under an hour from your location. Ford Specialist. PM me if interested.
LO
p.s. Also, DanHercules had some work done on his motor...he is closer to you (minutes apart) and maybe he can send you somewhere closer.

Danhercules
03-22-2005, 06:56 AM
I used a guy in Havasu. My motor was taken out there, so I used someone there. Sorry.

76BARRON
03-22-2005, 08:09 AM
Call Chris over at WILSON BROS. He is in UPLAND as well!

76BARRON
03-22-2005, 08:14 AM
Wilson Bros # 909-949-2911

LakesOnly
03-22-2005, 09:11 AM
Kerny, one more thing: Might just offer you a shortblock that's already rebuilt with flat-tops, mild cam, ARP bolts, etc. Just use your shortblock as a core exchange to us. Then just bolt your heads to it. SoCal. PM me if interested.
LO

LakesOnly
03-22-2005, 09:14 AM
I used a guy in Havasu. My motor was taken out there, so I used someone there. Sorry.
Dan, oh yeah...but didn't a local shop do the finishing work on your heads?
LO

Moneypitt
03-22-2005, 04:25 PM
Did you replace the rings?? AND did you clean the carbon out of the ring grooves?? Did the piston go in easy? If not, see above.........MP

Danhercules
03-22-2005, 04:54 PM
Dan, oh yeah...but didn't a local shop do the finishing work on your heads?
LO
Hehehe. Yea, I forgot about that.LOL :hammer2:

HOSS
03-23-2005, 05:30 AM
How much can I shave DOVE heads and still run 93? TRW flattops.

LakesOnly
03-23-2005, 08:37 AM
Not taking into account every last detail, such as deck height, gasket thickness, etc., D0VE's on a .030" overbore 460 pretty much put you at 11:1 with flat top pistons. (10.5:1 in a 429.) As far as I'm concerned, you have already exceeded a pump gas friendly compression ratio unless you want to compromise your tune.
It may be possible to take some additional measures to reduce the possibility of detonation...such as polishing your combustion chambers, etc. but I will not recommend them here.
By the way, general rule of thumb is that for every .010" cut from that D0VE head, you will remove 2-3 cc's chamber volume. (This is not an absolute.)
LO

HOSS
03-23-2005, 11:29 AM
10 of the deck and head oughta yield about 10:1 with a 72cc head.
Not flat tops. Soup bowls with 2 valve reliefs. Sorry I thought they were flat.

LakesOnly
03-23-2005, 12:38 PM
10 of the deck and head oughta yield about 10:1 with a 72cc head.
Not flat tops. Soup bowls with 2 valve reliefs. Sorry I thought they were flat.
460 motor with .010 deck height, Fel-Pro .043" gasket, TRW L2404.030 (22cc dish), early-style heads with 73cc chambers:
About 9.8:1.
Yes, I'd call that 93 octane pump gas friendly, assuming proper tune.
LO
p.s.: You might want the Fel-Pro marine head gaskets which are .038" ...will improve your quench.

Danhercules
03-23-2005, 01:50 PM
LO helped me with my head seleciton and I am running about 10.3:1. I have only run 91/92. All is fine. I cannot get too aggresive on the timing though.
I am runnin the early style heads.

b's sanger
03-25-2005, 05:35 PM
Try Graves Machine Shop over near old town upland. They were very helpful to me

riverbound
03-27-2005, 01:34 PM
I used JMS racing engines in Monrovia. I tried doing my motor myself,but I just didn't have the time. they did everything for me including dyno tuning the motor. I was very happy with them and their work. I spoke to Alex.