Superboat, The Legend

[FASTERDAMITT]

I figured since this forum is mostly for boats for sale at the end of someones most desire to own the boat they could'nt live without, I would toss in the begining of my desire. 30' SUPERBOAT Y2K.I'll post pics as they come along. This boat is being built in New York so the builder has been generous enough to send pics every week almost.
Here's the deck.Hanging.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0703_Large_.JPG
The deck out of the mold and hull mold almost ready for gel.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN0184_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

The hull started to be glassed
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0242_Large_.JPG
Hull fully skinned.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0303_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Superboat stringers
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0550_Large_.JPG
You can see the balsa coring. Thier installing the foam core to the sides.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0624_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN0623_Large_.JPG
Fuel tank in.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0636_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

cabin area gel.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN0659_Large_.JPG
Deck is cleaned up.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0709_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Ordered custom seats to fit my azz.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478motion2sm-thumb.jpg

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hull has awaken.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0777_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0780_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN2757.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Deck rigging has begun.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478IMAG0003_Large_.JPG

[bigq]

hmm.. I guess I should not of had that last drink :confused:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Deck and hull married.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN1004_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN1006_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN1007_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Engine hatch scoop in the works.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0643_Large_.JPG
Still needs cut out ect...
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN0645_Large_.JPG

[bigq]

Very clean, I can see right through it. :rolleyes: :D

[CrazyHippy]

Have to be a member @ offshore only to see the pics :burningm: :mad:
BJH :confused:

[bigq]

X marks the spot.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=141249&stc=1&thumb=1
It sure does! ;)

[FASTERDAMITT]

What a bummer!

[FASTERDAMITT]

I'll have to start over for the non O/O members. Sorry.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Should be better now!

[XtrmWakeborder]

Looks great man!

[CrazyHippy]

I can see clearly now, the rain is gone....
Looks like alot of fun, how about some motor specs, expected speed, etc.
BJH :cool:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Building a 598ci Dart block, Pro1 C&C heads, should dyno around 800hp. For speed we will find out, but should be triple digit club I hope. The speed caculator using specs from other Y2K's show with 800hp I should be at 102.

[jbtrailerjim]

Great pics! That is going to be a sweet ride. Keep the pics coming. I'd like to see the what it turns out like.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Here's what they sent today.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1194_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1189_Large_.JPG
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1191_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks for the possitive comments. :smile:

[dicudmore]

congrats, looks great :D
Hope to see you out here with it

[RiverDave]

30' boat with 800 HP = 102? I knew superboats were fast, but DAMN!!
RD

[FASTERDAMITT]

Dave hows it going?
The Superboat Y2K's I know of now are a
496mag HO at 74.1 mph
HP525 at 82 mph
custom 550 hp at 85 mph
blown 660 hp at 92 mph
There's another over 100mph but he's not sure of the horsepower. We'll see what mine runs in late June. :smile:

[RiverDave]

Dave hows it going?
The Superboat Y2K's I know of now are a
496mag HO at 74.1 mph
HP525 at 82 mph
custom 550 hp at 85 mph
blown 660 hp at 92 mph
There's another over 100mph but he's not sure of the horsepower. We'll see what mine runs in late June. :smile:
That oughta be interesting to see what it actualy turns!! If it does run over 100, then that's flat blowign the doors off most the west coast boats.
RD

[FASTERDAMITT]

Dave,
Are you forgeting the Howard 28 Bullet? I know it's not as big though. The Supeboat is 32' overall.

[RiverDave]

Dave,
Are you forgeting the Howard 28 Bullet? I know it's not as big though. The Supeboat is 32' overall.
The bullet is one of the faster west coast v-bottoms..
I know of a 27 that with 900'ish HP is expected to run low 90's
a 28 with 800 HP runs mid 80's
etc.. etc..
RD

[FASTERDAMITT]

I just found a Powerboat article on Howard 28 with a HP500 (470hp) that does 76.7mph. That's close that the superboat did with the same motor. They must run into a brick wall above 80. Of course the speeds the Superboats are showing are in cool weather best to date #'s. So will I hit 102, maybe not, but it will run good. The X dimenssion may be my limiting factor. There's a few different setups out there on these boats.

[ECeptor]

I think it's interesting that when I do a curve fit on the power/speed numbers that is quite linear...r^2 of .9981. The equation is:
speed = 0.0769*horsepower+41.7
Using that, 800hp nets you 103...again assuming things are linear.
Here's a quick look up table based on that equation:
300hp 65mph
400 72
500 80
600 88
700 96
800 103
900 111
1000 119
So, the Y2K is a damn fast hull...no doubt or debate about that. Perhaps the fastest single engine deep v with any real length. I think the pic of the finished bottom is why - all those steps let the hull ride on air!

[DogHouse]

Building a 598ci Dart block, Pro1 C&C heads, should dyno around 800hp. For speed we will find out, but should be triple digit club I hope. The speed caculator using specs from other Y2K's show with 800hp I should be at 102.
Nice choices all around! ;)

[Craig]

Nice looking boat! When we originally stared the AHBA in '98 there was a guy from Salt Lake who had a 30 with a big blower motor in it. Don't recall what his top speed was, but it did run well :D Keep us posted on your results!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks guys. Craig, good to hear from ya. Hope to see you at the lake soon. :cool:

[Craig]

Yeah, I haven't had the boat out since December at the Parade of Lights. Between work and some minor bs on the boat I'm ready to go! Going to go out to Lake Pleasant tomorrow and try everything out. Then if all goes well, Sunday at the lake. Have to get a Havasu trip together soon :D

[DogHouse]

Craig, I'm toyin with the idea of Sunday at (un)Pleasant as well. If so I'll look for ya!
:cool:

[RADDONKEY]

Very SWEET Boat! Cant wait to see it on the water. Superboat builds one of the fastest hulls on hte market. RD :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks RD. It's been five months already since they started. I don't think I've ever seen a boat take that long.

[spectras only]

Nice boat FD . What is the estimated weight fully loaded , minus the port-a-potty :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

Should weigh in around 4600-4700 if the potty is empty. :rollside:

[ECeptor]

Nice boat FD . What is the estimated weight fully loaded , minus the port-a-potty :D
Thinking about giving up your twins?

[Dusty Times]

Beautiful boat.
I love that bottom. :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hmmm.... Some tight bottoms on Palm Canyon tonight. First time I havn't been on a boat for Memorial day in years. Palm Springs is happening but Kickstand's is slow. I'd rather be on the boat. :cry:

[spectras only]

Thinking about giving up your twins?
Nope ! I'm shopping for a friend for his project :D . He's thinking of installing the ZZ 572 crate ,but I have a lead on a blown deal with 800 dynoed power that would suit his 35' boat better :idea:

[FASTERDAMITT]

I know it's not much but here's a pic of the cabin gel coated
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN1236_Large_.JPG
and engine area gelled.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1238_Large_.JPG
Off to the rigging shop now for final rigging. Getting exciting for us now!Thanks for looking.

[dc96819]

Looking good,how long does it take to have one made.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Looking good,how long does it take to have one made.
Thanks, Mine was started in beginning of January. So I'd say close to six months.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Have some more pics to share. Another of the helm.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1263_Large_.JPG
A cabin comming together.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1264_Large_.JPG
Almost ready for the 598.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1265_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

Here's the all aluminum and stainless Rolls Axle trailer. Even the brake componates are stainless. Not crazy about the blue bunk cover. I forgot to choose my own.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1271_Large_.JPG

[WetWillie]

Im not a huge fan of vees but I like the lines!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Im not a huge fan of vees but I like the lines!
Thanks, If you don't know my last boat was a 100+ cat, but I don't believe in making the insurance companys rich for no reason. So I wanted a place to overnight if we party too hard. Nothing fancy, too much weight in the bow. I was in search of a boat that would be close to the speed of a cat but handle the offshore duties like a race boat as it is. From Superboats offshore race record I think it will fill the void.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I was always told for every 100HP it is aprox 5 MPH on a boat. Thats is in general and I know it does not apply to every boat. I have a 24' Superboat with a TRS. Stock 350/260 hp 4800 rpm,boat did 50MPH . I put a stock 454/365 boat did 58/59 MPH @ 5000RPM. I bolted a 540/dyno 535HP 610 lbs of torque boat did 75MPH at 6000RPM. Tryed all diff props on all the combo's. MPH'S was GPS.

[Nord]

Nice pictures!!!!!

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

That is a really nice boat..I am in the market for a 28-30' performance vee. I think I just found the boat...Can't wait to see how yours comes out..

[FASTERDAMITT]

NORD, Thanks for the compliment. RUSHIN ROULETTE, Be sure to use me as a reference if you call Superboat. I can use the commission. :D

[essexjet]

Just found this threat. Fasterdamit, that is one beutiful boat. You know I work in PS so if you need a boat bitch...I'm just saying. :D :D :D
Cant wait to see the final pics

[essexjet]

Just went to there website. Nice looking boat.
I took something from there fasterdamit, I think you need it for your sig or avatar :D
http://www.superboatonline.com/images/LsbrBB150.gif

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks ESSEXJET, That's funny, I had an Essex I bought new in 1994. It was the third Sterling 21 out if the mold. Great boat and got a hell of a deal when they first started Essex. Sold it in 97 for what I paid for it. Then bought an American Offshore cat and sold it in 04 for what I paid for it. I hope the trend continues for my investments. As for the Avatar, there's someone using that on other sites already. I figure I'll use a pic of my boat when it's done.

[FASTERDAMITT]

On second thought, maybe I should grab that pic. :)
Check this link also, I posted a few pics.
http://www2.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73237

[FASTERDAMITT]

She's finally on my trailer although the bunks still need adjusting. Picking it up July 1, then the 598 goes in.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1313_Large_.JPG
A closer look at the aluminum trailer.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1315_Large_.JPG

[hotlavey]

That's a great looking ride. I'm surprised it is only a 2 axle trailer tho-
Your estimated speeds are amazing with the power you'll have. I'm jealous. I run a Whippled HP(700+hp) and am in the mid 80's.(Lavey 2750)
I know it's none of my business and you can tell me that, but I was wondering what the price range is for that boat? Is it similar to prices here on the left coast?
Thanks and good luck with that awesome boat.

[FASTERDAMITT]

That's a great looking ride. I'm surprised it is only a 2 axle trailer tho-
Your estimated speeds are amazing with the power you'll have. I'm jealous. I run a Whippled HP(700+hp) and am in the mid 80's.(Lavey 2750)
I know it's none of my business and you can tell me that, but I was wondering what the price range is for that boat? Is it similar to prices here on the left coast?
Thanks and good luck with that awesome boat.
Thanks,
The boat weighs 4700 dry. The trailer is rated 6000. As for your speed I thought the 2750 does about 80 with a 525. Maybe your numbers are in 110 deg weather also. I know the Superboat speeds are in 70 deg temps so it will be less if it's middle of summer. The price of a Superboat is about 20% less than a west coast rig. (could be more, I was quoted $60g's more for a 30 Eliminator at the LA show, same motor) Remember, it's designed as a race boat with minimal in gel graphics and bare essentials in the cabin to balance the hull. I know the Lavey runs very well offshore also.
Tom

[hotlavey]

Hey Tom,
Thanks for the reply. I think around 80 or a little less is probably close with the 525. Mine was the 500EFI and I was in the upper 70's. Our weights are very close(factory) as mine was vacuum bagged and balsa cored. I do have the cabin seats and stuff and very heavy batteries(odyssey 2100's) and xtra sound components so I am probably a little heavier now.
I think the Lavey is more of an offshore hull as it really doesn't like flat water(where I do all my boating). I'm currently testing a P5X 5 blade against my Bravo 4. Not too impressed with it so far, we'll see.
Tom

[FASTERDAMITT]

You should start a thread on your test results of that prop in hot boat forum. I know alot of people are interested. I don't think you need more bow lift with your bottom. Maybe a Hydromotive with more stern lift?

[hotlavey]

Actually I wanted to try a bow lifter as I was having some porpoising issues with the Bravo. I had asked Kevin(he's the throttle man on the Lavey race boat) about the P5X so, when he was at the Worlds in KeyWest he tried one. When he came back he said he thought it would work well on my boat. He has driven mine, so I figured he would know. I really haven't given the prop a valid test as it is a 28 and I really need a 26. I will have the correct size in a few weeks and will try it again. I turn 5600 with the Bravo 26 and could only get 5100 with the P5 along with major porpoising and much slower speed. Who knows, I may end up with a stern lifter if this one doesn't work. I'm tired of the "Leapin' Lena".

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hmmmm... Keep us posted.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Late last night I tryed my prop I got back from Throttle up in Florida. Prop was Labbed and cupped. I was orig 75 on GPS at 6000rpm. I am now doing 79.9MPH at 5800 RPM that was one person on fumes, great conditions with little chop on the GSB last eve. I lost 200 RPM with a 27 Mirage Plus propeller. I may break 80 if I loose 10 LBS. I made 5 runs and same results with the prop.

[FASTERDAMITT]

On the way to the final rigging shop to install the engine and finish up.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN1343_Large_-med.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

A couple one off custom parts for the 598.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478valvecover151.jpg
Oil pan
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478oilpan152.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478oil_pan153.jpg

[essexjet]

FB looking good, I have never seen one of these in person cant wait to see yours. Are you going to keep it in P.S. is so I might have to stop by when I'm at work. The oil pan looks amazing.

[FASTERDAMITT]

I may keep it here for awhile. Thanks.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I meet a guy from LI Massapeuqa (JOE) who built a single 598 recently for a 32' offshore Cruising boat. He gave me a ride. Motor was dyno @ 730HP 5600 rpm. Boat did 89MPH on GPS. Very nice ride. Boat looked just like the late 90's 30 Superboat same hull style. The kicker was he still had the Bravo 1 drive on the boat, and ran real small trim tabs.

[FASTERDAMITT]

My goal is 800hp. Hope we make it. :D

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Faster You Back On The West Coast Yet, I Would Like To See Some Mph #'s On That Nice New Super You Got !!!! ????

[FASTERDAMITT]

Yes we are back. The 598 is going in soon. We will be at the dyno next thursday. Getting close.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboat_delivery_010_Small_.jpg http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboat_delivery_011_Small_.jpg http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboat_delivery_003_Small_.jpg

[FASTERDAMITT]

A couple of pics of the Superboat crew in Long Island and my kids.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboat_delivery_019_Small_.jpg
Legendary John Cohen and my wifey.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboat_delivery_020_Small_.jpg

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Your boat looks real sharp, I love the sleek design. Your boat looks bigger the John's entire shop front the shot in the front. (( I see the picture, where is everyone's Superboat shirts ? )) I hope he threw in a few with the purchase of the new boat..... Best of luck. Keep me posted on Dyno results, I am planing a 598 Tall Deck for my 24' Superboat Next year.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Nice. That's actually his original shop when he started out. He uses it for rigging and an office now. He has a glass shop about 6 times that size about a mile away. I'll keep ya up to date. Tom

[FASTERDAMITT]

Got head?
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478head2_Medium_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478head_Medium_.jpg

[FASTERDAMITT]

Dyno numers are in. Engine going in this weekend. :rollside: http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478598.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478dyno_001.jpg

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Faster: WOW - Those are real sweet #'s. The 598 is the ticket. I am going that route this winter. I assume solid cam? would you mind listing some details on the motor, Like compression, cam lift, dur, and size of the alum heads? Thanks and the best of luck. I want to see some MPH and photos. I was thinking 95 even closer to 100 MPH, in that Y2K (( Sit down and hold on )) Picking a nice propeller package should be fun too.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Look closer at the dyno sheet, it descibes your questions about the engine. Thanks for the support. Getting Lightning headers made now. Should take about two weeks and I'll be ready for the water. By the way it's built by Adrenaline Performance in Lake Elsinore CA.

[hotlavey]

9.8 compression? Isn't that a little high for 91-92 octane? I assume you'll be running something a little higher.
Beautiful setup, best of luck to you.
Tom

[FASTERDAMITT]

Head design plays a big roll in detination. We went down to 3500 wide open with none. It will rock on 91.

[hotlavey]

Impressive. Those are some beautiful heads. I'm almost there with those AFR's. I have their head-bolts. :rolleyes:

[Deano]

nice curves on the dyno...
that thing is gonna haul some serious ass

[funkcity]

As I said on OO that is a beautiful boat and now a beautiful motor!
With all that torque you must realize that most stock....even XR Bravos won't hold together.
What's your plan?
Also if I could ask...about the drive height. Where does the cav plate sit and where does the prop center line sit in relation to the bottom of the hull.
I realize that the Y2K has a complex bottom with multiple steps and a notched transom so that's why the question.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks DEANO, HOTLAVEY.
Funkcity, I don't have the boat here to measure yet. It's still at the engine shop. I know the prop is deep on this boat. I don't want no high speed spin outs in turns like you see on some aggresive step V's when racing, poker runs ect.. As for the drive. I know some people that have similar power on newer XR's and they are holding up if you use the throttle properly in big water. I had 700hp on a XR in my American Offshore with no problems also. ;)

[DrewDown]

Very nice FD. Thanks for kepping us updated. Looking forward to the finished product.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks Drew, I hope to be on the water in two weeks. Have you decided what boat you want next?

[454SUPERBOATKID]

RE: DYNO SHEET. Faster can you ask your motor guy why the colum on your dyno sheet "Vol Eff" has all zero's ? I had a motor dyno a few years ago and that colum has a list of numbers and the "Bsas" has zeros also ?

[DrewDown]

Thanks Drew, I hope to be on the water in two weeks. Have you decided what boat you want next?
Leaning toward a 30 spectre but we'll see.

[FASTERDAMITT]

RE: DYNO SHEET. Faster can you ask your motor guy why the colum on your dyno sheet "Vol Eff" has all zero's ? I had a motor dyno a few years ago and that colum has a list of numbers and the "Bsas" has zeros also ?
I'm not sure, when I get back there I'll have to ask.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Leaning toward a 30 spectre but we'll see.
Drew, I looked at the Spectra, but I "heard" they porpois alot. And I think I'm done with outboards.

[Faster Daddy]

FasterDamitt,
Been a while since we talked, the boat looks great! I'm sorry to see that it's not going to be a F1 boat I was looking forward to seeing you on the race course. ;)
I'm going to keep an eye on this thread to see what kind of numbers you run........ maybe we can get together after the race season and make a run or two over to Catalina. Good luck with everything.
Brian

[FASTERDAMITT]

Brian,
I know the F1 class would have been a bang! Someone has to give you some competition :) , but it won't be me this season. There's always next year though.I may work on a partial sponsor for a 496 next season, we'll see what happens. Brian, If I had the budget, I'd be racing the east and west circiut with you, trust me. :smile:
Tom

[Brian]

Hey, nice motor, I like!
:D

[ECeptor]

Faster-
Is the engine installed yet? Had the boat in the water? If not, when?
We need an updated with pics!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Sorry, Just waiting on the headers. Not much going on.

[KatKrazie]

awesome superboat, awesome engine, which is a good combination.
Are you going to keep it naturally aspirated.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Katkrazy, thats to be determined in a year or two. I may race offshore which would change things also. Thanks.. Hey, its a pleasure for my forum to be your first post. ;)

[KatKrazie]

yeah this site is awesome. I Havent seen to many filled boat forums like this.

[FASTERDAMITT]

I am board, so I thought I'd post a couple of race pics.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboatf168pt_Small_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboatusa.jpg

[454SUPERBOATKID]

FASTER: I am looking forward to seeing you boat in the water soon, you get the headers yet? keep up posted !! (( I feel like someone is about to have a baby ))

[FASTERDAMITT]

I was afraid to call friday. I didn't want to here it's not ready yet. I'm just gonna wait till I get the call! Going to the beach sat. Check when I get back.

[funkcity]

Status Report? :smile: :rollside: :boxed:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Well, headers where finished today. Closed cooling system is having a 5 week delay so far. I was told a week to manufacture five weeks ago, but today I called and thier making the mounting brackets and will ship to me in a couple days. So, All I waiting on is the cooling system. The engine should be going in tomarrow or thursday. What a beitch! Do I really have a boat????????? :cry:

[funkcity]

Dry headers you mentioned somewhere.
When I think of dry headers I think HOT!....and under an enclosed engine hatch?
Who is building the closed cooling system for you?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Dry headers mean that they are water jacketed just like normal. In a std header the water exits the jacket into the exhaust gases just past the 4 into 1 tube welds. In a dry setup water jackets the header and tailpipes all the way to the exit at the transom. So the water never contacts the exhaust gases untill they both exit the pipe. This prevents water reversion with a big engine and camshaft. Very loud because the water is not in the pipe mixing with exhaust to quiet it. The cooling is built by Orca cooling systems.

[ECeptor]

Are you going to have to put mufflers on her? If so, what are you going with?

[FASTERDAMITT]

E, There will be a glasspack baffle built into the 4.5" tailpipe, which will get it down to 100 decibles. That is what a 525 sound like without mufflers. Now I have to come up with a external muffler to get legal. I will wait until I can sound check it on the water just to see if the low profile swim platfrom will muffle some of the noise.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Give us a weekly update, get the main voyage on video. I want to see that baby FLY .... I heard john from Superboats put wings on it just in case you decide to FLY !!!!

[ECeptor]

E, There will be a glasspack baffle built into the 4.5" tailpipe, which will get it down to 100 decibles. That is what a 525 sound like without mufflers. Now I have to come up with a external muffler to get legal. I will wait until I can sound check it on the water just to see if the low profile swim platfrom will muffle some of the noise.
I figured it would take alot to get your engine down to meet the standards. Maybe you can get rid of those mufflers in the future and replace them with nice quiet twin turbos!

[spectras only]

Fortunately, canada doesn't have the resources to clamp down on noise everywhere yet :D . We had these 1200 hp sterlings last weekend's pokerrun . Turn up your speaker's
volume >
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Mvi_1127.avi
Here's the boat that goes with it.>
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Mvi_1129.avi

[Beer-30]

Ok, well, I will be in the shower for about 20 minutes.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Getting wet tomarrow! I probably wont have top speed numbers, but I will try to post some pics and info. Damn graphics company did'nt get it done yet either. I'm hoping to have the graphics done next week.

[ECeptor]

Getting wet tomarrow! I probably wont have top speed numbers, but I will try to post some pics and info. Damn graphics company did'nt get it done yet either. I'm hoping to have the graphics done next week.
Update please!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Sorry! We had problems with the fitment of the tailpipes to the headers. That's the last thing we did before start up. Just got it finished today. Hopefully graphics tomarrow and SCOPE Poker Run saturday in Long Beach. This has been a long wait! I bought a radar gun for all the braggers out there. :wink:

[ECeptor]

Sorry! We had problems with the fitment of the tailpipes to the headers. That's the last thing we did before start up. Just got it finished today. Hopefully graphics tomarrow and SCOPE Poker Run saturday in Long Beach. This has been a long wait! I bought a radar gun for all the braggers out there. :wink:
Let us know how she runs. I've been on the edge of my seat over this boat for months!
Also, return the radar gun and buy a GPS unit. Not sure why anyone would buy a radar in this GPS day and age.

[FASTERDAMITT]

I have GPS! The radar gun is for measuring other boats! :D

[ECeptor]

I have GPS! The radar gun is for measuring other boats! :D
I see...it's a BS meter! They say "I just ran 105mph", you say "Umm, looked like 85mph to me!"

[FASTERDAMITT]

:D

[454SUPERBOATKID]

undefined GOOD LUCK ON YOUR POKERRUN FASTER: DON'T COME BACK W/O SOME GPS #'S. HOPE THE WEATHER IS GREAT !!!!

[funkcity]

Hey Faster,
We need a progress report and some pics!! :)

[FASTERDAMITT]

Got some pics finally.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478boat_007_Medium_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478boat_006_Medium_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478boat_010_Medium_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478boat_011_Medium_.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478boat_009_Medium_.jpg

[FASTERDAMITT]

Poker run weather was beautiful. Fair sea's. First time on the water I needed to do a test run but the Poker Run was about to start so we started at the back of the pack in the choppy water and cruised a little and stopped to check things out before getting too far offshore. Everything looked good. So we proceeded to catalina. Boat handled water great! Smoothest boat I've ever been in. You do have to use the tabs once in awhile because of the narrow beam. I don't like the position of the trim tab buttons. I have to reach around the shifter to use them. I think I will go to a floor or wheel control.
The ride back was a 65mph cruise in a little rougher water. Still love the way the Y2K handles the water. My 26 American Offshore cat would not have done what we where doing. Kept the trim low and flew across the top. About five miles offshore, suddenly no power! What the h*ll! I checked everything out and determined the MSD Marine ignition box failed! Here we are bobbing around in big water and no one around! After an hour or so a fisherman finally came along and towed us closer to shore until the sea tow found us for $600 bucks to tow us for a couple hours. I was told cell phones work between the Island but I found out only periodically. Well, everyone was safe and I got 2.2 hours on the boat and a high of 65mph so far. I'll get a new MSD comming and see how she runs next time.

[spectras only]

FD , looking good . What MSD box you run ? Lots of peeps had probs with red boxes in boats . Make sure the coil is mounted upright . I have the blue box [pot it to be watertight] and pro billet dist in my V-drive cruiser for years , no prob. Also have it mounted on the stern wall rather than on the engine , minimizing vibration to it.
Interesting fairing you've got there . Can you read the compass standing up ?

[FASTERDAMITT]

I run the blue box and Pro billett also. Rev limiter set at 6000. Mine is mounted to the engine, maybe I should move it. As for the compass, my boat is a sit down only. Superboat try's to keep eveything as low as possible for handling. Thanks

[ECeptor]

First off, that is a gorgous boat...simple clean good looks. It'll look just as attractive 5, 10, 15 yrs from now.
You are a braver man than me by making your maiden voyage a run to Catalina!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks E. Ya I just could'nt resist following the PokerRun over there. To bad I wasn't ready to run hard.

[ECeptor]

Thanks E. Ya I just could'nt resist following the PokerRun over there. To bad I wasn't ready to run hard.
Sounds like overall it did very well for it's first shakedown run.
What's your engine break-in plan or did you have it broke in on the dyno?

[FASTERDAMITT]

The engine was broken in on the Dyno. Im was concerned about breaking in the outdrive however. How many hours should I baby it?

[spectras only]

FD , I've started opening up after 30 hrs on new drives. Got 78 now , no prob . Bravo 1X's with low power though [ 320 at the props ] . Ran a few pokerruns mostly WOT. My comment about your compass was just out of curiosity , since most folks run a GPS now anyway ;) .

[ECeptor]

The engine was broken in on the Dyno. Im was concerned about breaking in the outdrive however. How many hours should I baby it?
I don't think gearboxes really have to be broken in like an engine. I'd run it one more time then change the oil to get any shavings or hard bits out.
That's what we recommend on the gearboxes on the machines we produce.

[FASTERDAMITT]

GPS is on my list after drifting offshore and not sure what to tell Seatow for my location other than 10 miles east of Catalina! :supp:

[ECeptor]

I have GPS! The radar gun is for measuring other boats! :D
I guess this means GPS for speed only, not position huh?
FD, do you have some sort of owners manual for your Bravo? If so, it should have the recommended break-in procedures in it.
Also, ever heard of anyone putting an Arneson surface drive on a Y2K?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Yes, GPS speedo.
Manual? Maybe I should read it! No one has used a surface drive as of yet. I think the bottom likes a little positive trim in stock form. A couple have had blue printed bottoms which may like otherwise. Those boats have shown no speed improvments so I decided that the original bottom was for me.

[ECeptor]

I think JC really has a great performing bottom on that boat. Now that you mention it, I remember reading somewhere SB tested with higher and higher X dimensions and found it started to lose speed as it went up. I believe the "stock" X dim is based on those test results.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Yes, he is now setting them up as the same as Keith's boat in Texas. Keith set a high of 74.1mph at his X with a 496HO.

[Riverkid]

I was told cell phones work between the Island but I found out only periodically.
They only work about 5-7 miles from the towers. There are several VzW towers at Avalon, Blackjack, and the Ithsmus. They also have a repeater over to Cat Harbor. Get yourself a VHF for sure.

[FASTERDAMITT]

VHF is a must now! Is hand held ok?

[Riverkid]

Handhelds have limited wattage. For what a good hard mount radio costs, buy one over a portable. Don't skimp on the antenna. I know, the antennas are ugly. Stow it someplace in the boat if you have to, but have one because there is a huge range improvement with a perm mount radio versus portables... You already know what Vessel Assist costs. BTW, you have a sweet new ride. Hope to see it out in the big blue sometime.

[Quality Time]

Faster,
Another option for the tabs is to mount the switch livorsi sells on your throttle stick. Puts the buttons at you finger tips. I have this on one of mine and it works great. The downside is that they only come in black and white (unless they are making in other colors now) :cool:
Nice Boat BTW!

[FASTERDAMITT]

[QUOTE=Riverkid]Handhelds have limited wattage. For what a good hard mount radio costs, buy one over a portable. Don't skimp on the antenna. I know, the antennas are ugly. Stow it someplace in the boat if you have to, but have one because there is a huge range improvement with a perm mount radio versus portables... You already know what Vessel Assist costs. BTW, you have a sweet new ride. Hope to see it out in the big blue sometime.[/QUOTE
I'll take your advice. Thanks

[FASTERDAMITT]

Faster,
Another option for the tabs is to mount the switch livorsi sells on your throttle stick. Puts the buttons at you finger tips. I have this on one of mine and it works great. The downside is that they only come in black and white (unless they are making in other colors now) :cool:
Nice Boat BTW!
Thats also sounds good. Thanks.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

FASTER Are you planning another run soon? I would like to see some real #'s....

[C-2]

Hey Faster,
How did you end up plumbing that thing? Looks like you kept the circ pump. but where did all the hoses go? That oil cooler?
Thanks for the info on the valve covers, turns out my guy already has a pair etched with his name.
Too funny, my motor will be a red version of yours...red block, red Dart intake, aluminum heads, red Lightnings, sheet metal valve covers. Mine is just many ponies short!

[FASTERDAMITT]

FASTER Are you planning another run soon? I would like to see some real #'s....
I should be in Havasu this weekend. I have a 100 gals of fuel right now so I'll have to run some down for a good speed run.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hey Faster,
How did you end up plumbing that thing? Looks like you kept the circ pump. but where did all the hoses go? That oil cooler?
Thanks for the info on the valve covers, turns out my guy already has a pair etched with his name.
Too funny, my motor will be a red version of yours...red block, red Dart intake, aluminum heads, red Lightnings, sheet metal valve covers. Mine is just many ponies short!
I'll try to get another pic this weekend so you can see the whole package. I don't have a Dart intake, it's a custom with someones name stamped in it. I don't remember the name right now. Can't wait to see your engine too!

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Faster: Enjoy AZ with your Super this weekend, thats one of two places I will be bringing my Super in the future, the other I am going to visit is the: Ozarks Good luck, and extend your arm all the way. What propeller do you have behind your drive and what RPM and Speed have you reached ?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Right now I have a 32' Bravo1. I didn't get over 4000rpm or 70mph when I went to Catalina because of my wife wasn't liking the ocean swells to much. She had the white knuckle effect. Next time I'll give her a couple of shot's before the ride! I'm also taking a 28 with me. I'm thinking a 32 may be to big for 6000 rpm I'll be cranking.

[jbtrailerjim]

Saw you cruising through the channel in Havasu this weekend. Sweet boat!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks alot. I had fun finally getting some time in the driver seat. Only had her opened up twice. Once was with a full boat and the other, I dropped the wife on the beach for a single pass by myself which was eye watering to say the least. This motor rips. It will break the prop loose at will.

[phebus]

I saw you down at the Springs, nice looking boat!!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks, phebus.

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

Man, I love that boat. looking good. Keep us posted on how she runs with more time on her. I still want a good offshore boat like that!! :cool:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks, RUSHIN! It does like big water.
Saturday I ran the 28 pitch with five people and all the gear, coolers ect. 75 gals of gas and not really knowing how to drive it yet hit 90 in one attempt at 5700rpm. A little nervous about break in procedure still. On sunday I put on the 32 knowing it's probably too big. I talked my wife into hanging out on the beach for one good pass. Unfortunatly I had some 2-3' cross wakes which gave me some white knuckles. 94 at 51-5200 rpm before I chickened out! Still didn't have the trim set but she was still climbing a little faster. I don't think the 32 is going to get me up to 6000 rpm so I am going to try a 30. My guess is I'll be a little shy of 100 without all the gear, tools, coolers ect..

[ECeptor]

94 at 51-5200 rpm
Damn impressive! I gotta find a new job so I can afford one of these runners!!
My guess is I'll be a little shy of 100 without all the gear, tools, coolers ect..
You know it will be eating at you until you can honestly call her a 100mph boat...

[454SUPERBOATKID]

FASTER: How long is your boat 32' or 30' ... Also how wide is your beam ?

[FASTERDAMITT]

31' 7" OVERALL, 30' BOTTOM 7' BEAM The cockpit has alot of room for 7' because they don't have side storage in the hull. I have about the same room between the front seats as my Cat had, unbelievable!

[FASTERDAMITT]

I'm off to Havasu. Hope to see some of you peeps there.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I am very impressed, on your whole package, make me want to sell my 24' Superboat and buy a 30' Hull from John. Keep the pictures and data comming....

[Garrddogg]

shit thats very impressive!! I WANT ONE!!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks guys. I had a great time this weekend in Havasu. Alot of good compliments from some great people. I bought a 30 Bravo1 sat. morning. Felt pretty good but did'nt do a solo run for speed. I had too much fuel all weekend anyway. I thought I ran it lower last weekend and put 60gal in sat. morn. It filled it up, so I was carrying near 100 gals. However still out ran a few boats in rough water running near 90. (I know there's alot of boats that will kick my azz.) One guy in a Daytona lost his back seat and who knows what else as I was running next to him. That sucked as we had a good run started. I hope he found everything that flew out. Next trip out I'm hoping to have less fuel and finally dial in a prop. I'm thinking a labbed 30 or something may be the ticket. I would like to see 90's on a avg load.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Faster: Thats funny, I was running a brand new 22' Velosity last weekend with a 496, I blew his doors off in rough water, and I kept pointing to him everything was flying out of his boat as we were running. I seen a few life jackets, and other crap flying out. (( Nothing like a Superboat in rough water, I had 5 heavy guys in mine, and the guy in Velosity was solo, he bounced all over the place and kept throttling back )) It was all nice until a 24' Progression with a IMCO and a BBC with a blower blew by us both, guy in the progression said he does 104MPH in flat water. Guy in Velosity said he does 74MPH flat water, I do 69.9 MPH all day long, Keep the pictures comming brother.

[C-2]

Hey Faster,
Any new pics on how you plumbed the motor?
Still trying to decide to go with stock recirculating pump configuation, or scrapping it for a better looking crossover/bypass setup. I've done a fair amount of research over at OSO and it seems everybody has different opinions.
Thanks

[Havasu Hangin']

Thanks guys. I had a great time this weekend in Havasu.
Hey partner...I saw you guys in the channel- the boat looked real good. It's nice to see something different out there.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hey Faster,
Any new pics on how you plumbed the motor?
Still trying to decide to go with stock recirculating pump configuation, or scrapping it for a better looking crossover/bypass setup. I've done a fair amount of research over at OSO and it seems everybody has different opinions.
Thanks
I'm sorry I didn't get any more close pics of the engine. I just took the boat back in for a larger oil cooler. Mine is not large enough for the engine, temps rise too high when running hard. I'll get some pics in a week or so.
Tom

[FASTERDAMITT]

Hey partner...I saw you guys in the channel- the boat looked real good. It's nice to see something different out there.
Thank's, That's one of the reasons I went with SuperBoat. The other is because it performs nearly as good as a cat up to triple digits. Beyond, I'm not sure. But as stable as mine is so far I think it would handle good above 100, but the efficency will probably fall off. For a 30'+ boat and a single, I'm happy.

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

What does your whole rig weigh? Boat and trailer, what do you tow it with?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Boat and aluminum trailer weighs about 6100 dry. I tow with a 05 Ram 1500 4x4 Hemi with 35's. Hauls azz...

[Havasu Hangin']

Thank's, That's one of the reasons I went with SuperBoat. The other is because it performs nearly as good as a cat up to triple digits. Beyond, I'm not sure. But as stable as mine is so far I think it would handle good above 100, but the efficency will probably fall off. For a 30'+ boat and a single, I'm happy.
Are you gonna keep the "NY" home port on the back?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Yes, that was a priority of my better half. She is looking for a vacation home in N.Y. She likes Manhattan, I prefer Long Island. :)

[Havasu Hangin']

Yes, that was a priority of my better half. She is looking for a vacation home in N.Y. She likes Manhattan, I prefer Long Island. :)
Just make sure you don't bend a prop on a dead body while you are boating over there...
:D

[Two K's]

Hey Fasterdamitt, From Lindenhurst about 50 min's one way is the hamptons and montauk 50 the other way manhattan ;) Babylon village is real nice. :idea: Hey, once a year we'll trade houses for a month but you have to leave the superboat home for me :D :D As you know I don't have a boat anymore cause I was stupid and sold it :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ;) Kidding Your boat looks great lol

[Two K's]

Havasu Hangin, The bodies are down too deep to hit. We don't like boat damage around here :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

You guys are too funny! Two K's, the house swappin thing sounds cool. :smile:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Another weekend in the desert. :cry: I guess I'll break out the dirtbike tomarrow. :smile:

[Two K's]

Fasterdamitt, I would have to get a new boat first to leave in the driveway for you to use. :idea: My 59 vette is in the garage, it's fiberglass!! If we put it in the water upside down it might float! :)

[FASTERDAMITT]

No deal unless you have a boat for me to use. I'll leave the keys to my 67 425hp Mustang Fastback with drag radials for ya also. ;)

[Two K's]

I'm working on the boat part. I have the engine/drive from key to prop but need the floating part. I hope soon cause I don't want another summer boatless.My wife has me doing major work to the house and I'm seeing light at the end of tunnel now. Remodeling a house that was built in 1924 kept me real busy this year.Hey sounds like a real nice Mustang. Is it all original? My vette was an old track car so I built as a street rod with a 454 4speed. These old vettes ride like a gocart though. Word around here is if you want a new superboat you have to get on a long line now. He has alot of orders from what I'm told
Talk to ya later, Keith

[FASTERDAMITT]

Ya so I hear it would be late next year if you order a Y2K today.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I just tryed a ron hill 5 blade propeller, 23" works real nice on my 24' Superboat package with a TRS and BBC. More low and mid range speed, more stable, more top speed.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks for the info. Like the concept but I personally want to stay away from 5 and 6 blades. I may be wrong but I think if you have a little slip it's easier on the outdrive. Ron Hill makes a good prop.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I am going to try and meet up with some Superboaters this Saturday, on the hot tottie run. leaving out of Bayshore, LI. MAybe an after party at Toomies in Amityville, NY afterwards.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Sounds like alot of fun. Enjoy!

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I was on my was out to the Hot Toddie run today with my 24' Superboat, I got a late start so I was Balls to the wall, 5400 RPM cruising at 75 GPS. Then as I was crossing the Amity cut, the hub blew out on my Propeller. Sea tow brought in back in as fast as I left the canal. I seen a 30' Superboat heading out east as I was being towed, and a few other large i/o boats that looked like they had blowers or superchargers, hauling A**. I'll try again next year with my 598. :clover:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Awe man that sucks! Did you through on another prop?

[454SUPERBOATKID]

I usally keep one or two spare on the boat, I recently let someone borrow both my 3 blade Mirage Plus props and they have not returned them. I heard it was a real nice turn out in the Great South Bay, I know it's a far trip for you Faster maybe next year. I came home the same day, in the mail I had my Shrink wrap guys card I think he was telling me something: Back it up for the season !!!!!

[FASTERDAMITT]

I guess they had 20 Superboats at the Hot Toddy Run. Nice turnout. It's 100 deg out here. You can't store you boat already! :wink:

[FASTERDAMITT]

So what's scoop on a stereo system? I want four 6.5's in the cockpit and two 10" subs. I plan on using a iPOD for tunes. There seems to be unlimited possibilties. I was thinking 60 watts per channel for the 6.5's and not sure on the subs.

[454SUPERBOATKID]

Are we going to see you comming or hear you comming first Faster?
I was out today , reproped with a Mirage labbed prop, I was running a little over 70 MPH.. A skater with twinn 300 Mercurys made me look like I was sittting still. (( Guys name was Tommy from Massapequa small white Skater with Twinn 300's )) I quess 130+++ MPH maybe faster I seen him pass me then he was gone out of view.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Weather is still nice! I would be in Havasu this weekend, but I'm having a engine/power steering cooler manufactured by Orca. It seems the off the shelf coolers are only almost good enough for my application. I have a 10qt oil pan, maybe I should have used a 14. I don't know if it would have fit with my race mounts. But still would rather have a little overkill on the cooler with a thermostat built in. I wonder how many people actually watch thier oil temp when running??

[ECeptor]

Faster,
Any recent prop testing results? Any chance of cracking 100mph by years end?

[FASTERDAMITT]

E, wuz up?
I plan on running a few times this winter. I should be back on the water in a week or so. I think from there I will do a Hydromotive nose cone and a labbed Bravo1 prop. Should be an improvement according to the prop tech's I've been talking to. Of course I only had one speed run so far and that was a heavy one. Next time I'll take the coolers and tool box out of the bow for better results.

[ECeptor]

So, you are going to try the nose cone..should help at the speeds you are running. The B1 a 30"er?

[FASTERDAMITT]

I plan on trying each at different times to see the actual benefits. Too busy with family life lately to get anything done though.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Here's a couple of pics from our last trip to Havasu.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478Superboat3.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478Superboat2.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478Superboat1.jpg
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478Super4.jpg

[30SUPERBOAT300MERC]

Faster, your 30 looks real nice. I am running a 1990 step bottom 30' with a 300 Mercury and a 12" setback. Goes close to 80MPH.
You boat looks great the ladys look great too..
NY-Steve.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Sounds like a nice package. I bet you have alot of room. Any pics?

[dicudmore]

nice pics fasterdammit :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

nice pics fasterdammit :D
Thanks. Hope to have more soon. Do you have any close up pics of yours? Start a Cheetah thread. On OffshoreOnly.com forums they have dedicated forums for each manufacturer so you can check out boats of interest to you. Petty cool site.

[dicudmore]

Thanks. Hope to have more soon. Do you have any close up pics of yours? Start a Cheetah thread. On OffshoreOnly.com forums they have dedicated forums for each manufacturer so you can check out boats of interest to you. Petty cool site.
yeah OSO is pretty cool but I don't get over there often...
mine's just normal stuff
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/6385cheetah2.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/6385int3.jpg

[FASTERDAMITT]

Them 29's are good lookin boats. Do you know where Cheetah got the mold from?

[dicudmore]

Them 29's are good lookin boats. Do you know where Cheetah got the mold from?
I could swear they told me that it was a no longer used Cig mold, they added the swim step etc. To me it looks more like a 29' Scarab though, and heard from Keith Sayre (who I never doubt) that it was a Wellcraft bottom...
Wish I could keep it and build the cat...sure gonna miss this one :cry:

[FASTERDAMITT]

The Cigarette I think was a narrower hull. What are you building?

[dicudmore]

The Cigarette I think was a narrower hull. What are you building?
that Cheetah is an 8'1" beam...narrower than that would be pretty darn skinny. Although some of the sunsations are 7'1 aren't they??
building an Ultra 27' Shadow

[FASTERDAMITT]

I don't know if your read my thread earlier, but the SuperBoat is a 7' beam. Amazingly the cockpit room is as good as any boat I've had including my American Offshore cat. The secret is Superboat doesn't have side storage. And there is no step on the hull deck between the cockpit and rubrail. The reason for the narrow beam is better rough water capability. (slices though water better) 7' beam 24 deg bottom = multiple offshore world titles, plus a little xtra speed over 8' hulls. Yes, Sunsation 24, Magnum 27, Cigarette 28, I'm pretty sure all had 7' beam. The reason there are more 8+ beams now is cause most people today are concerned about ammenities not all out performance. Kinda like comparing a 28 Skater to a 28 Eliminater cat. Two different markets.
So your getting ready to take that insurance plunge? Your gonna love your Shadow but damn those rates. Can't wait to see it! :wink:

[dicudmore]

I don't know if your read my thread earlier, but the SuperBoat is a 7' beam. Amazingly the cockpit room is as good as any boat I've had including my American Offshore cat. The secret is Superboat doesn't have side storage. And there is no step on the hull deck between the cockpit and rubrail. The reason for the narrow beam is better rough water capability. (slices though water better) 7' beam 24 deg bottom = multiple offshore world titles, plus a little xtra speed over 8' hulls. Yes, Sunsation 24, Magnum 27, Cigarette 28, I'm pretty sure all had 7' beam. The reason there are more 8+ beams now is cause most people today are concerned about ammenities not all out performance. Kinda like comparing a 28 Skater to a 28 Eliminater cat. Two different markets.
So your getting ready to take that insurance plunge? Your gonna love your Shadow but damn those rates. Can't wait to see it! :wink:
I agree... I was very happy with the 8'1 beam and 24 deg bottom, rather than 8'6 on most of the west coast stuff...That boat was an absolute blast in the ocean :D

[FASTERDAMITT]

Here's a pic of Gary's Y2K done right after mine. A magazine just did a photo shoot a few weeka ago on his boat in New York. Should be published soon. He has a 525HP and runs 79.9 in the test.
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478sb-y2k_photoshoot_051_Medium_.jpg

[30SUPERBOAT300MERC]

WHAT MAGAZINE DID THE PHOTO SHOOT ? I WILL LOOK OUT FOR IT ? Hot Boats ? About time some Superboats get in magazines !!!!! Will the magazine show data ? GPS,MPH, HP, Drive, ?

[Rexone]

Weather is still nice! I would be in Havasu this weekend, but I'm having a engine/power steering cooler manufactured by Orca. It seems the off the shelf coolers are only almost good enough for my application. I have a 10qt oil pan, maybe I should have used a 14. I don't know if it would have fit with my race mounts. But still would rather have a little overkill on the cooler with a thermostat built in. I wonder how many people actually watch thier oil temp when running??
FD you will find you're on the right track with a larger cooler. A larger pan won't have much affect on Oil Temp, only oil supply.
Very nice boat btw. :)

[FASTERDAMITT]

WHAT MAGAZINE DID THE PHOTO SHOOT ? I WILL LOOK OUT FOR IT ? Hot Boats ? About time some Superboats get in magazines !!!!! Will the magazine show data ? GPS,MPH, HP, Drive, ?
The shoot was by Speedboat Magazine. I don't know where to find it out west here though.

[FASTERDAMITT]

FD you will find you're on the right track with a larger cooler. A larger pan won't have much affect on Oil Temp, only oil supply.
Very nice boat btw. :)
Thanks Rexone. It's better to have overkill than always at the limit.

[30SUPERBOAT300MERC]

I am going to the book store today and look for speedboat magazine, I never heard of it. I get Hot Boat magazine,Trailering and the US Boat magazine. If I find it I will get an extra few copys for any superboater who want one.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Your the man!

[FASTERDAMITT]

I'm told my boat is near done. He's testing it on monday to see how the oil cooler works.

[FASTERDAMITT]

ttt
Here's a new section added to the Superboat web site for thoses interested.
http://superboatonline.com/A30Y2K.html

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

Great Pics in the new section. So whats the latest with your boat faster? If i ever get mine sold, I will definately consider a Y2k.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Well, I washed it today.... I have been geetin the stereo together. I currently have everything except the amp sittin in the bedroom ready to install. Shoud be cuttin holes in a few days or so. There's a good posibility I will be in Havasu this sunday. Going to the Parker 400 and may tow the boat up for a short run. Need to get a Hydromotive P4X prop. I hear that's the prop for these Superboats. There go's mo money. Thank's.

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

Speaking of stereos and interior etc..how is the room down underneath? Can you sleep on it? Say a nice overnight to catalina?

[hotlavey]

[QUOTE=FASTERDAMITT]Well, I washed it today.... I have been geetin the stereo together. I currently have everything except the amp sittin in the bedroom ready to install. Shoud be cuttin holes in a few days or so. There's a good posibility I will be in Havasu this sunday. Going to the Parker 400 and may tow the boat up for a short run. Need to get a Hydromotive P4X prop. I hear that's the prop for these Superboats. There go's mo money. Thank's.[/QUO
I thought a P4X was an outboard prop and the P5X was for out drives.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Rushin, Here's what the cabin looks like in race hull layup, which what mine is. Two six foot long bench's an a decent V birth. I will install carpet and cushions soon. But nothing fancy. Oh, plenty of headroom. I'm six foot plus.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/478DSCN1236_Large_.JPG

[FASTERDAMITT]

HotLavey,
More blade surface area creates more drag and stern lift. They are better for cruise efficiency and boats with very high drive heights. The P4X is the same as Hyromotives famous cleaver used by so many for the last decade or two, but the blades are designed more rounded like bravo1's for better everyday use. According to all the info I could compile the P4X is similar to a labbed Bravo1. about 3mph faster than a stock Bravo1 and a little more slip at cruising. My drive is 3" below the keel. Four blade will give best speed. If the drive was higher, say 2"'s below then a five blade will start to come into play. Alot of west coast lake boat setups will like a five blade as the manufacturers are setting drive heights as high as possible for that very last mph creating a lot of slip unless the boat is very lightly loaded.
My best slip number to date was 8% using a Bravo1. Pretty incredible for a 30' V. Here is the Slip Calculator for your own trials.
http://www.go-fast.com/Prop_Slip_Calculator.htm

[RUSHIN ROULETTE]

Thanks for the info Faster.

[hotlavey]

HotLavey,
More blade surface area creates more drag and stern lift. They are better for cruise efficiency and boats with very high drive heights. The P4X is the same as Hyromotives famous cleaver used by so many for the last decade or two, but the blades are designed more rounded like bravo1's for better everyday use. According to all the info I could compile the P4X is similar to a labbed Bravo1. about 3mph faster than a stock Bravo1 and a little more slip at cruising. My drive is 3" below the keel. Four blade will give best speed. If the drive was higher, say 2"'s below then a five blade will start to come into play. Alot of west coast lake boat setups will like a five blade as the manufacturers are setting drive heights as high as possible for that very last mph creating a lot of slip unless the boat is very lightly loaded.
My best slip number to date was 8% using a Bravo1. Pretty incredible for a 30' V. Here is the Slip Calculator for your own trials.
http://www.go-fast.com/Prop_Slip_Calculator.htm
Ouch- Looks as though I have about 18% slip. That is with a Bravo 1 labbed, 1:5 gears, and 5500 rpms, 80 mph. Whippled HP500 won't pull a 28 P5X so I went to a 26 P5X. Hated it too- more porpoising and torqueing and only pulled 5000 at 77 mph. Still working on it.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Rushin,
Your more than welcome.
Lavey,
The stock bravo1 is overrated by one pitch, so a 28 is actually a 27. On a 28 labbed I would drop to a 26.5 pitch number because of the labbing done. A Hydromotive are true pitch ratings. Try your numbers again. :)

[hotlavey]

Rushin,
Your more than welcome.
Lavey,
The stock bravo1 is overrated by one pitch, so a 28 is actually a 27. On a 28 labbed I would drop to a 26.5 pitch number because of the labbing done. A Hydromotive are true pitch ratings. Try your numbers again. :)
Looks like 13% now- still high, right?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Actually more like average. I will see low teens if I'm running in glass water. I ran at Elsinore once and seen 15%. Heavy water or something. All that green chit is kinda thick.

[hotlavey]

Actually more like average. I will see low teens if I'm running in glass water. I ran at Elsinore once and seen 15%. Heavy water or something. All that green chit is kinda thick.
I just refigured my numbers- I have a 15% slip(not on Smellsomemore either)
With the P5X I come up with 7%. (5K rpm's, 76mph). Lousy.

[FASTERDAMITT]

If your getting 7% great! Now where's the horsepower? Sounds like the Whipple HP500 is lacking something. How much boost are you running "at the manifold". My American Offshore had the same cam and heads as yours at 7.5#'s boost. I was running over 100, so I know I had around 700hp or more. What did you run before the Whipple?

[hotlavey]

If your getting 7% great! Now where's the horsepower? Sounds like the Whipple HP500 is lacking something. How much boost are you running "at the manifold". My American Offshore had the same cam and heads as yours at 7.5#'s boost. I was running over 100, so I know I had around 700hp or more. What did you run before the Whipple?
The guys at Lavey said the same thing, that I may be down on power. According to Dustin at Whipple I should be around 700-750 hp. I believe boost is around 5# to 6# according to the gauge. The engine only has a total of 120 hours- 50 hours with the Whipple. Complete upper rebuild last year(valves, springs, headwork, gaskets, etc. and a leak-down test) Boat is not run hard at all as it has a porpoise at speeds over 70-75 so not too comfortable. Great cruise at 65-70. Speed before Whipple(and before GPS speedo) was close to 80 so I guess actual was slower.
I'm taking it to Lavey shortly and they are going to figure out why the porpoise problem, and maybe even pull the engine and do a dyno test. They feel I should be running close to 90. I agree.

[FASTERDAMITT]

That's wierd. Hope Lavey has some answers for ya.

[scarabrick2]

24' Superboat ????? Any input?
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dregsz
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gig harbor, WA.
Posts: 79
My 24 Superboat takes 3 foot+ open water without blinking.
And it goes 70+
It's for sale and I'll deliver it to Havasu (wherever that is???) for the cost of fuel
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Evan
For Sale
24' Superboat, 300HP V8 Johnson
Anybody know this boat or what's it worth?
I tried to PM the owner but no luck so far.
Rick

[spectras only]

Just saw your post . You can find Dregsz [ Evan ] on www.nwoffshore.com

[FASTERDAMITT]

What ya guys think? Full or just lap belt?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478belt_med-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478belt2_med-med.jpg

[Speedin' Ian]

restraints in an open boat don't seem like a great idea to me. If you rolled the boat I'd think you would have a better chance if you got thrown out of the boat

[FASTERDAMITT]

I know what your talkin about. There has never been a Superboat roll but who knows. I was thinkin maybe a lap belt. Many open Poker run boats are using restraints. When they race Superboats on the east coast they used a restraint. Many time when a boat goes out of control is because the drive is flying all over and can't maintain focus or control of the wheel. Lookin for opinions. Out west here most likely more negative I would assume.

[shadow]

What ya guys think? Full or just lap belt?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478belt_med-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478belt2_med-med.jpg
Tom, I thought this was Superboat "the Legend" Does Ride like Squirley boat the legend? :D J/K
Seems alittle odd to me,I sure wouldn't want to be flipped over and strapped in.
If you don't wind up using them let me know i could use them in my Rhino. :)

[FASTERDAMITT]

Thanks Shadow! This is what the boat is made for, only I'm too much of a puss to race it! :D
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478superboatf168pt_Small_.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/522/478r30d3.jpg
Just need to keep the passengers in the boat without lettin up. Do you remember Szargo on these boards? He flew out of a Daytona at near 100. Just to rough out for the rear passengers. It wasn't good!

[FASTERDAMITT]

Besides, anyone can go fast in calm water... :wink: Almost. If I don't use them here they will work great in the Mustang.

[shadow]

Besides, anyone can go fast in calm water... :wink: Almost. If I don't use them here they will work great in the Mustang.
We don't want to see pictures of other Superboats getting air and racing.
We want to see pic's of your boat catching air @ WOT in the ocean. ;)
So far i've seen it in The Channel & on the trailer, Oh yea and a pic of it tied to the dock.
Put the restraints in the Mustang. :)
Just messing with you Tom. :)

[FASTERDAMITT]

I can't take pics of myself... I guess we need a Catalina trip buddy! When's the last time you where out that way?

[FASTERDAMITT]

Shadow, I canned the harness and went with same thing but lap belt.
See ya this weekend? :)

[Huntingtonbeach]

Tom, saw you at Black's on Sat. but you couldnt hear me yelling over the lope in your cam LOL... The boat looked great and what was the top speed you saw on that radar gun? Well have to do a run if my boat ever gets out here?!?!?

[FASTERDAMITT]

I thought I would see better but 116mph was the fastest in front of Black meadows. Only three over 100. Most in the 70's to 80's. Too bad I missed ya!

[fast fun 2]

wazzup!!!!???made it over to ***boat! Lookin Good Buddy!! Now if we could nly get Superbabi and rick over here...

[FASTERDAMITT]

Bout time you discovered the left coast! Welcome aboard. :smile: How did you find Hot Boat?

[fast fun 2]

Bout time you discovered the left coast! Welcome aboard. :smile: How did you find Hot Boat?
thread in the cig forum on oso what up round here

[fast fun 2]

Ill get Gary and Rick over here. :rollside:

[FASTERDAMITT]

Superboat Usa racing team comes in third running on pump gas while others run modified spec and race fuel.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/478DSCN3140_Large_-med.JPG
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