top 13 excuses for gettin' sawed off

[cyclone]

overheard at the river......
1. you have a blower and i don't.
2. i had the anchor and cooler in the boat.
3. I had the wrong pulley on.
4. I had weeds in the pump
5. My chick was in the boat.
6. I only stood on it for 5 seconds-if i had held it longer you would have been toast.
7. I only play with jet boats.
8. I'm the barometer. if you get by me then you can go after my friends.
9. The water was too rough.
10. my bowlight wasn't on.
11. You have a race boat so I'm supposed to lose.
13. I have a lake boat with a stereo, 18 life vests, two paddles and a water skiis under the bow.

[victorfb]

oh cool, a few more i can use. thanks mike. :D

[roostwear]

Keep going..... I need more excuses than that!

[Wally_Gator]

How about...
I am running logs and they rob HP..

[jackpunx]

overheard at the river......
1. you have a blower and i don't.
2. i had the anchor and cooler in the boat.
3. I had the wrong pulley on.
4. I had weeds in the pump
5. My chick was in the boat.
6. I only stood on it for 5 seconds-if i had held it longer you would have been toast.
7. I only play with jet boats.
8. I'm the barometer. if you get by me then you can go after my friends.
9. The water was too rough.
10. my bowlight wasn't on.
11. You have a race boat so I'm supposed to lose.
13. I have a lake boat with a stereo, 18 life vests, two paddles and a water skiis under the bow.
Print those out and bring em with you.. I"ll see you out on the water :D

[Squeezing Spectra]

14. Im still breaking it in

[roostwear]

15. It's a closed engine, and I can only run so much intake.....

[78Southwind]

overheard at the river......
1. you have a blower and i don't.
2. i had the anchor and cooler in the boat.
3. I had the wrong pulley on.
4. I had weeds in the pump
5. My chick was in the boat.
6. I only stood on it for 5 seconds-if i had held it longer you would have been toast.
7. I only play with jet boats.
8. I'm the barometer. if you get by me then you can go after my friends.
9. The water was too rough.
10. my bowlight wasn't on.
11. You have a race boat so I'm supposed to lose.
13. I have a lake boat with a stereo, 18 life vests, two paddles and a water skiis under the bow.
I have used all these already......can you come up with some more

[78Southwind]

16. I am still paying on my engine.

[BUSBY]

7. I only play with jet boats.
:D :D :D

[Oldsquirt]

17. My scoop was on backwards.

[roostwear]

18. I thought you had a 455

[dmontzsta]

Come on #1 should ALWAYS BE!
1. It just doesnt seem to be running right.

[Tresguey]

i actually heard....i didn't wanna lose a contact!!!! LMFAO

[Keithb87]

How about...
I am running logs and they rob HP..
I thought I heard somewhere that Thru Transom Exhaust was supposed to gain you 5 more MPH.. :confused:
OH yeah that was over inthe Sandbar a few years back.. :supp:

[victorfb]

19. i only get serious when there is some serious money on the line.

[Squirtin Thunder]

20. My Diverter cable must be broke !!!

[Squirtin Thunder]

16. I am still paying on my engine.
That's why you don't run it hard !!!

[BUSBY]

21. Its not tuned to race.
22. My oversized tacho doesn't so I don't know f I was at full throttle.
23. It's my brother's boat and he wont let me race (but I would beat you anyway)
24. Its too hot - the intercooler won't work efficiently.
25. Oh you were racing?
26. My Girlfriend doesn't like me racing.
27. I don't race, you might be a cop.
28. Its a cruiser not a racer...
29. My 4 15inch subs are too loud couldn't hear you take off.
30. I was running low boost.
31. I need another gauge then I will be faster.
32. My Alternator is hooked up so I've lost power.
33. But Nelson said I was fast.
34. I missed the push button for my NOS.
35. But my 4 15inch sub magnets, the 6x9's and the 50 amps in my boat slow me down.
36. I didn't know you had gone all I could see was a big spray of water.

[NELSON#109]

37. busby built my moter, it might blow up half track!!!!

[NELSON#109]

38. my pop off might blow open again.

[HBjet]

39. My launch controller wasn't working
40. I can't race at the river with my Pop-Off
41. I only race at NJBA

[HBjet]

The water was too rough.
I've only used this one, but not coming back to the beach... only when the water was truly too rough and I would offer to run just up or down river on some cleaner water... and we usually would... So I guess you can say it's an excuse...

[RiverDave]

#1. "My friends boat will... ______"
LOL :D
RD

[Liberator TJ1984]

I don't have Race Fuel in the tanks
I slowed down because I was going so fast I couldn't see anymore
My life jacket is only rated for 100mph , I don't wanna push my luck
I saw the oil pressure drop 20# , so I got out of it
Damn diverter stuck and wouldn't let me plane out

[moneysucker]

I use a lower MSD chip at the river.
My oil pressure guage was acting up.
Bad air, I need to re Pill.
I didn't take the cooler and tools out.
I am running my river set up for a more comfortable ride.
I have water in the gas.
I am running old fuel for this weekend.
I don't race if I have been drinking.
I didn't have my Life line on.
I had to wait for the GPS to track.
I didn't know we were doing a rolling start
My bilge was pretty full and you didn't let me enough time to pump it all out.
That is just off the top of my head. Not that I have used them all. Just most

[roostwear]

42. My DNE sticker came off

[HBjet]

42. My DNE sticker came off
I still had my bimini up ;)

[HBjet]

My muffler bearings are going out :D

[roostwear]

I still had my bimini up ;)
Hey, that one's REAL! :D

[Squirtin Thunder]

I still had my bimini up ;)
Hey, that one's REAL! :D
Now that is funny !!!

[Danhercules]

57. A bug hit me in the eye.
58. I needed to turn around to get more beer.
59. my wifes top fell of due to the speed
60. I verped my beer and I was choking
61. My beer fell out of my cup holder
62. I forgot to turn off the water to my headers
63. I am not runnning full synthetic right now

[stillgoin]

Here's a couple we've used since we were litttle tikes
64. "I have a flat carburator, I need to put some air in it".
or
65. "Wait til I put some more chrome on the motor, then I'll get ya"

[Blown 472]

41. I only race at NJBA
Huh?????

[MAXIMUS]

Cyclone you forgot the "I am only making 1000 hp with this blower but if I went to a real one then imagine what would happen!" And no thats not injection! :p :D

[moneysucker]

I don't have the right nozzle insert
I don't have my race loader in
A pre loader shaves off top speed
I was changing the CD when you took off for my race sound track
Dude, You are SUPPOSED to let me win. You are married and there are hot chicks watching.

[hack job]

My muffler bearings are going out :D
are those #10 bearings?

[hondajoey]

14. Im still breaking it in
that is the best i have been breaking mine in for 2 years now

[HBjet]

Huh?????
What's the "huh?????" for?

[cyclone]

49. Dude you got (nawwzz) N20!
50. i've only got my 3/4 race cam in this motor.
51. Busby tuned it so it blew up on me at half throttle.
52. Ya but you spent more on your motor.
53. I saw a jet ski coming and let off.
54. my mom wont let me race.

[Blown 472]

What's the "huh?????" for?
You went to the drags with your boat and didn't tell us???

[Liberator TJ1984]

I just spent 30 grand on this motor !!! I gotta take it easy on it so it will last!!! DNE stickers ain't FREE !!! :wink:

[hack job]

49. Dude you got (nawwzz) N20!
50. i've only got my 3/4 race cam in this motor.
.
i am running a 3/4 rv cam my self . :wink:

[revndave]

Both tanks are full.
My wife said NO.
I have a 21

[LGCDEVIL]

Still have it jetted for Perris.

[LGCDEVIL]

Foot slipped off the pedal.

[HBjet]

You went to the drags with your boat and didn't tell us???
Nope, the boat has been stored out at the river... I still don't get the huh!

[BUSBY]

37. busby built my moter, it might blow up half track!!!!
Oh ... now that's funny ...

[LGCDEVIL]

Put on a new throttle cable. Don't think I have it adjusted to open the secondarys all the way.

[BUSBY]

51. Busby tuned it so it blew up on me at half throttle.
You too huh???
Anyone else ... you might as well kick me while I'm down!

[HBjet]

"It's my wife's boat" (that's for you Sofa King :D )
HBjet

[revndave]

You raced DJD :D

[BigBlockBaja]

Saw a boat with Chicks in it and got distracted.

[XClutchboy725]

#99) "I don't think the secondaries are opening on my carbs!"
(used by someone from this board who shall remain nameless---Squirtcha) :D

[Blown 472]

Nope, the boat has been stored out at the river... I still don't get the huh!
Read it wrong. :hammer2:

[Bense468]

I'm too rrunk to dace.

[Bense468]

I am only runnin on 3 cylinders

[CALIFORNIA PERFORMANCE]

MY LINE LOCK STUCK :rollside:

[Cs19]

4. I had weeds in the pump
Ive heard that one before..LOL
No excuses, you get sawd off, you get sawd off. Race gas, pump gas , big bad 14-71 blower,alcohol,whatever it may be.NO EXCUSES.

[steelcomp]

I heard a noise!! :rolleyes:
Timing's off. :rolleyes:
Wrong loader. :rolleyes:
Pump must be slipping. :rolleyes:
Blender's losing a bearing...had to shut down :cry:
Mixed Tequila instead of rum...had bad heart burn...couldn't see. :220v:
Was thinking about something Nelson said and laughing so hard I forgot to go. :D

[steelcomp]

Rule no. one:
NEVER race anyone that's still in front of you! :coffeycup If they take off, wait it out. (I learned that one street racing, but it goes on the water, too)

[steelcomp]

MY LINE LOCK STUCK :rollside:
In your boat??? :confused: :confused:
That explains a lot of things! :D

[TRG]

[QUOTE=cyclone]overheard at the river......
9. The water was too rough!
I know my shit gets rather squirly at speed in da chop, so im down to travle for water!

[WUTWZAT]

Randy (HBJet) I heard a nasty little rumor that you have twin blondes in your boat, is that some kind of performance edge? And if you do where are the pics?
If this is true then you don't need to race you've already won.
And don't listen to Nelson he only makes sense when hes drunk, wait thats most of the time.
Jason

[cyclone]

Rule no. one:
NEVER race anyone that's still in front of you! :coffeycup If they take off, wait it out. (I learned that one street racing, but it goes on the water, too)
best advice i've read yet on how not to get sawed off. i still have trouble following that one though. :D

[cyclone]

Ive heard that one before..LOL
No excuses, you get sawd off, you get sawd off. Race gas, pump gas , big bad 14-71 blower,alcohol,whatever it may be.NO EXCUSES.
i agree. i'll just have to start punking fools until they give me a rematch or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat.

[littlewood]

I'm running aggressor parts and there's no safety crew here. lw

[Danhercules]

I'm running aggressor parts and there's no safety crew here. lw
LOL, MY DROOP BROKE!

[Cs19]

i agree. i'll just have to start punking fools until they give me a rematch or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat.
I agree, no 1/8 mile crap wussy shit, were doin' kilo runs next time.

[MikeF]

I agree, no 1/8 mile crap wussy shit, were doin' kilo runs next time.
Who said anything about lifting. :)

[revndave]

I agree, no 1/8 mile crap wussy shit, were doin' kilo runs next time.
I agree.I need a 1/4 to get going

[Cs19]

damn blower guys, aernt jetboats supposed to be quick?

[cyclone]

I agree, no 1/8 mile crap wussy shit, were doin' kilo runs next time.
Now that's what i'm sayin'. fock it lets go 1/2 mile minimum. no wait, lets just go until someones shit blows up! :D

[RiverRacer]

Rule no. one:
NEVER race anyone that's still in front of you! :coffeycup If they take off, wait it out. (I learned that one street racing, but it goes on the water, too)
The old rule from Whittier Blvd and Van Nuys Blvd is: "If you CHASE, you RACE"!

[HBjet]

lets just go until someones shit blows up! :D
You know I'm down with that! :lightsabe

[HBjet]

...or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat...
Now that sounds like an excuse. A win is a win. If you can't catch him in the first 5 seconds you probably won't in the next 5.... :hammerhea
HBjet

[revndave]

Now that sounds like an excuse. A win is a win. If you can't catch him in the first 5 seconds you probably won't in the next 5.... :hammerhea
HBjet
:idea:

[steelcomp]

The old rule from Whittier Blvd and Van Nuys Blvd is: "If you CHASE, you RACE"!
Grew up street racin on Van Nuys...yep...that's the way it was. :D

[roostwear]

Running with the Brotherhood at Nabisco or Holder (hold her) and Ball :D

[victorfb]

i thought "Brotherhood" was running Terminal Island? 1/8 mile, but fun as hell.

[RCB19]

I accidentaly put my 4* wedge in sideways :2purples:

[BUSBY]

no wait, lets just go until someones shit blows up! :D
Mike ... you've come over to the dark side ... I'm proud of you Son ...
Bring your motor over & I'll set it up for you, Ron did, and he's never looked back (unfortunately, maintenence prices have gone up, but there is no feeling like going into the low 8's & high 7's!)
When ever your ready to blow some shit up ... let me know ... but you know you'll love it after you're pass!

[V-DRIVES RULE]

You guys forgot the BEST excuse of all ''Dude its only a JET'' :sqeyes: :sqeyes:

[HBjet]

"I didn't have the right gears"
"This isn't my race prop"
"I left my wing at home"
:D

[You Te]

You have an outboard I'll lose. :cry:

[hack job]

i got the up and down pedals confused

[hack job]

You have an outboard I'll lose. :cry:
we only ran 1/4 mile i need 4 miles to make it happen :cry:

[pops1]

overheard at the river......
1. you have a blower and i don't.
2. i had the anchor and cooler in the boat.
3. I had the wrong pulley on.
4. I had weeds in the pump
5. My chick was in the boat.
6. I only stood on it for 5 seconds-if i had held it longer you would have been toast.
7. I only play with jet boats.
8. I'm the barometer. if you get by me then you can go after my friends.
9. The water was too rough.
10. my bowlight wasn't on.
11. You have a race boat so I'm supposed to lose.
13. I have a lake boat with a stereo, 18 life vests, two paddles and a water skiis under the bow.14. Next time we start from Dead Start.

[cyclone]

Now that sounds like an excuse. A win is a win. If you can't catch him in the first 5 seconds you probably won't in the next 5.... :hammerhea
HBjet
i know you know better than to think a boat that didnt holeshot you wont run your ass over before a 1/4 mile is over. ask cs how bad he left me at the start in our matchup at the last njba race and who ran the better et.
lots of well set up 100 mph boats will smoke mine out of the hole but after an 1/8 mile its all over. i will run them down.

[Blown 472]

Now that sounds like an excuse. A win is a win. If you can't catch him in the first 5 seconds you probably won't in the next 5.... :hammerhea
HBjet
And top end comes into play here, where?? :confused:

[REAL HP]

"I didn't have the right gears"
"This isn't my race prop"
"I left my wing at home"
:D
Comming from u, thats funny. Any flat you beat would have to be a real jem.

[77charger]

overheard at the river......
1. you have a blower and i don't.
2. i had the anchor and cooler in the boat.
3. I had the wrong pulley on.
4. I had weeds in the pump
5. My chick was in the boat.
6. I only stood on it for 5 seconds-if i had held it longer you would have been toast.
7. I only play with jet boats.
8. I'm the barometer. if you get by me then you can go after my friends.
9. The water was too rough.
10. my bowlight wasn't on.
11. You have a race boat so I'm supposed to lose.
13. I have a lake boat with a stereo, 18 life vests, two paddles and a water skiis under the bow.
To me there only excuses. :cry: If people wanna race step up or shut up
forgot the i have full tanks of gas excuse

[77charger]

"I didn't have the right gears"
"This isn't my race prop"
"I left my wing at home"
:D
I have a bow light (you forgot that one)LOL

[HBjet]

Comming from u, thats funny. Any flat you beat would have to be a real jem.
So why is that funny? I've never had an excuse when I've been beat and the last time a Flatty saw'd me off I drove back past the beach where people where watching and stood up, smacked my own ass letting them know I was the one spanked and then went on my way... Excuses are usless, you run what ya brung. A win is a win. River racing is 1/8 mile and sometimes longer. The problem is there usually isn't enough river.
So are you coming out for Labor Day?
HBjet

[wsuwrhr]

I run a Dodge, and I am always getting sawed off, that is why I am so short.
I gave up on excuses, I just learned to deal with it.
:messedup: :messedup: :messedup:
Brian

[Blown 472]

So why is that funny? I've never had an excuse when I've been beat and the last time a Flatty saw'd me off I drove back past the beach where people where watching and stood up, smacked my own ass letting them know I was the one spanked and then went on my way... Excuses are usless, you run what ya brung. A win is a win. River racing is 1/8 mile and sometimes longer. The problem is there usually isn't enough river.
So are you coming out for Labor Day?
HBjet
Get out on them in the first 500 feet then you are the winner? strange. When you going to race a 1/4 mile at an event??

[Cs19]

i know you know better than to think a boat that didnt holeshot you wont run your ass over before a 1/4 mile is over. ask cs how bad he left me at the start in our matchup at the last njba race and who ran the better et.
lots of well set up 100 mph boats will smoke mine out of the hole but after an 1/8 mile its all over. i will run them down.
LOL, but the 1.053 reaction time you cut wasnt helping much.LOL ..Luckily I cut a .2 light that round cause the boat ran like shit that pass, my worst of the weekend.No excuses here, I flat out went the wrong direction on my set up and lost .25 of a second.
In my opinion, quickness is what wins races at the river.If anyone wants to race me, I make sure its from a dead stop or a slow roll (at idle with the bucket open) even though my boats a turd in the 1/8 mile compared to the cp 18's,I still think thats how a race should go down.Thats drag racing! I dont see WJ and Dave Connely trying to pair up at a 25 mph roll. Drag racing is from a dead stop, always has been, always will be. If your boat wont take a set or cavitates,well ya better bust out the "excuses" list and rattle a few off.
As far as length of a race, I have no problem going a full 1/4 if the condtions are good, but I still think its almost always over in the 1/8 mile.

[Cs19]

Get out on them in the first 500 feet then you are the winner? strange. When you going to race a 1/4 mile at an event??
When was the last time you raced a 1/4 mile on the water AT AN EVENT?
Im sure your king shit out on the river too in the metalflake glastron with a blown 472.

[bp]

#86. i'd race you, but it's too far to tow - i can't tow my boat more than 20 minutes from my front doorstep, or to the nearest beer, whichever's closer.
kudos to mike doll, who started towing in mira loma headed toward dexter oregon for the cdba race last weekend, only to have a head-on with some idiot near redding. totaled his truck (nobody hurt), so mike ran off, rented a big penske truck, transferred his stuff from the totalled truck and the "lap dance" flat to the penske, and made it on time for qualifying. excuses? there aint any. win, or get yore azz handed to you. if it's part II, get to work, get back out there until you can accomplish part I, wherever "there" is.

[bp]

You too huh???
Anyone else ... you might as well kick me while I'm down!
you can't be down for too long? somebody told me you bought a piston company? :D :D

[cyclone]

LOL, but the 1.053 reaction time you cut wasnt helping much.LOL ..Luckily I cut a .2 light that round cause the boat ran like shit that pass, my worst of the weekend.No excuses here, I flat out went the wrong direction on my set up and lost .25 of a second.
In my opinion, quickness is what wins races at the river.If anyone wants to race me, I make sure its from a dead stop or a slow roll (at idle with the bucket open) even though my boats a turd in the 1/8 mile compared to the cp 18's,I still think thats how a race should go down.Thats drag racing! I dont see WJ and Dave Connely trying to pair up at a 25 mph roll. Drag racing is from a dead stop, always has been, always will be. If your boat wont take a set or cavitates,well ya better bust out the "excuses" list and rattle a few off.
As far as length of a race, I have no problem going a full 1/4 if the condtions are good, but I still think its almost always over in the 1/8 mile.
the point was that over the course of a full 1/4 mile i was able to catch up and run quicker. reaction time or no reaction time. the point is that an 1/8 of a mile is a wussy race. Stand on it for a full pass that's all i'm saying. this crap about getting the holeshot and letting off because someone thinks they've won the race is dumb and that's all i'm saying.

[steelcomp]

the point was that over the course of a full 1/4 mile i was able to catch up and run quicker. reaction time or no reaction time. the point is that an 1/8 of a mile is a wussy race. Stand on it for a full pass that's all i'm saying. this crap about getting the holeshot and letting off because someone thinks they've won the race is dumb and that's all i'm saying.
That's called knowing when to quit. :notam:

[cyclone]

its weak but true.

[Cs19]

the point was that over the course of a full 1/4 mile i was able to catch up and run quicker. reaction time or no reaction time. the point is that an 1/8 of a mile is a wussy race. Stand on it for a full pass that's all i'm saying. this crap about getting the holeshot and letting off because someone thinks they've won the race is dumb and that's all i'm sayin.
We hear ya mikey.
I agree, a race should go on as long as neccassary,what are your thoughts on starting when river racing?
I disagree on the njba deal, you would have had to run an 8.40 to cross the finish line at the same time or "catch up".
Cs19

[bordsmnj]

Now that's what i'm sayin'. fock it lets go 1/2 mile minimum. no wait, lets just go until someones shit blows up! :D
ok, now you have my full attention. if i'm gonna get my ass handed to me i want it on a silver platter :shift:

[HBjet]

Get out on them in the first 500 feet then you are the winner? strange. When you going to race a 1/4 mile at an event??
500 feet? Please... Blown, I'll run my motor at WOT for 2 miles if I have to. When you have pulled someone and it's clear they aren't going to catch you in the 1/8, why run the 1/4? Heck, who know's if it's even an 1/8 mile, it could be somewhere between 1/8 and a 1/4. When I do run someone and we are pretty even, then I keep my foot in it until it's clear. If I run someone and we are dead even, then the drag race turns into a race of who has the balls to hold there motor at WOT longer then the next guy. I can tell you I've never been the first to lift when that has happened.
When am I going to race at an event? Why is this such a concern for you? Last time I checked, I remember building a boat for the river, which I leave at the river, and I don't have to touch it. Just turn the key and go. If I want to drag race, then I will build another boat just for that. In the mean time, I have no plans on running my boat at the NJBA or any other event. With the amount of money spent to run one event, I could get in a lot of river trips. Again, I didn't build the boat to run at NJBA and I'm sure I will run it through the lights before I sell it. Just right now, there is no desire because I see how Cyclone and CS19 got hooked and I can't afford that happening to me, which I know it will.
So Blown, does that answer your question? Now, I have a guestion for you. Why is it such a big deal for you that I run my boat at the drags? Is it still a "I don't believe the power your motor makes thing" or do you just have a hard on for me?
HBjet :boxed:

[LVjetboy]

What's so magical about 1320 feet? I'm hearing BS on distance...both here and in v-drives. Is the river or lake a measured or timed race track where a win is only a win at the lights just because some identify with that? I say it's whatever xx feet it takes for your opponent to give up or win be that 300 feet or 3,000 feet. And how long you go may depend not only on balls but how stupid you can be. Sometimes, stupid mistaken for balls in the natural environment. But hey, popular theme says...
Hold it until something breaks or you flip it. How well does that play in a river/lake situation?
jer

[Blown 472]

500 feet? Please... Blown, I'll run my motor at WOT for 2 miles if I have to. When you have pulled someone and it's clear they aren't going to catch you in the 1/8, why run the 1/4? Heck, who know's if it's even an 1/8 mile, it could be somewhere between 1/8 and a 1/4. When I do run someone and we are pretty even, then I keep my foot in it until it's clear. If I run someone and we are dead even, then the drag race turns into a race of who has the balls to hold there motor at WOT longer then the next guy. I can tell you I've never been the first to lift when that has happened.
When am I going to race at an event? Why is this such a concern for you? Last time I checked, I remember building a boat for the river, which I leave at the river, and I don't have to touch it. Just turn the key and go. If I want to drag race, then I will build another boat just for that. In the mean time, I have no plans on running my boat at the NJBA or any other event. With the amount of money spent to run one event, I could get in a lot of river trips. Again, I didn't build the boat to run at NJBA and I'm sure I will run it through the lights before I sell it. Just right now, there is no desire because I see how Cyclone and CS19 got hooked and I can't afford that happening to me, which I know it will.
So Blown, does that answer your question? Now, I have a guestion for you. Why is it such a big deal for you that I run my boat at the drags? Is it still a "I don't believe the power your motor makes thing" or do you just have a hard on for me?
HBjet :boxed:
You said "hard on"

[steelcomp]

What's so magical about 1320 feet? I'm hearing BS on distance...both here and in v-drives. Is the river or lake a measured or timed race track where a win is only a win at the lights just because some identify with that? I say it's whatever xx feet it takes for your opponent to give up or win be that 300 feet or 3,000 feet. And how long you go may depend not only on balls but how stupid you can be. Sometimes, stupid mistaken for balls in the natural environment. But hey, popular theme says...
Hold it until something breaks or you flip it. How well does that play in a river/lake situation?
jer
I see very few lake or river races that go much more than a couple hundred yards. LIke Jer says, there's usually not enough good water to run 1300', and besides, most guys quit when they're ahead. If you race, and you get hole shotted, and go for it for even a few seconds, and the guy that holed you is still out front, and you're running him down BIG time, but he shuts down...guess what. Yoooou loooooose. Unless you agree on a finish point of some kind before you race, you're done. Over. Fini'. Adios.
So:
Never chase.
Pick your races/ know who you're racing.
Know when to quit.
Is it weak? Maybe. Does the other guy have the same options? Of course.
Street racing...TRUE street racing, or river/lake racing is a whole different world. You can bet there are different rules, and you better know them, 'cause they're not written anywhere, except to say that whoever is ahead when the race is over, for WHAT EVER REASON, wins.
Wanna go again??
Sure, no prob! :rolleyes: :D

[Tahiti350]

#99) "I don't think the secondaries are opening on my carbs!"
(used by someone from this board who shall remain nameless---Squirtcha) :D
I've used "The secondaries aren't coming inclean!" but they have always opened..., and that's fixed now.
Today's excuse: It's pulled to 5400 before, but it's only pulling 4400 today."
or: "The motor is going away, just wait until I freshen it!"

[Cs19]

Im with Lv and steel here, river racing is just that, whatever happens happens and you better have your shit togethor.
If someone is reeling you in, no matter what distance they run, they aint gonna be satisfied on the length of the course till they pass you.
I still think acceleration is what wins races at the rio.

[cyclone]

blown- i actively discourage randy from racing. if he goes racing then i lose 1/2 my pit crew (him) and then i cant go. Besides that he is right about the expense of it. I dropped close to 800 bucks last race for 7 passes down the track. Its an expensive hobby that to me is worth every penny.
:)
a trip to the river costs him less and he gets to drive his boat all weekend and race every boat on the water. that's his deal and he enjoys it. but don't think that he's afraid to race or doesn't know what he's doing at the track because he's been going and pitting at njba events since he was a kid.

[You Te]

the point is that an 1/8 of a mile is a wussy race. this crap about getting the holeshot and letting off because someone thinks they've won the race is dumb.
Ah yes, the 1/8 hole shot. :D

[roostwear]

i thought "Brotherhood" was running Terminal Island? 1/8 mile, but fun as hell.
I stopped street racing after Terminal Island opened. That was Big Willy's "make nice-nice" gesture to the LA County sheriff and the county commissioners. Orange County Brotherhood took up out on La Palma, and Bond Av

[stoker2001]

[QUOTE=bp
kudos to mike doll, who started towing in mira loma headed toward dexter oregon for the cdba race last weekend, only to have a head-on with some idiot near redding. totaled his truck (nobody hurt), so mike ran off, rented a big penske truck, transferred his stuff from the totalled truck and the "lap dance" flat to the penske, and made it on time for qualifying. .[/QUOTE]Mike is the coolest,actually i feel real lucky that everyone in our class is real down to earth peeps.it was nice to see alot of entry level dragboats at Dexter and the place is gorgeous.now,if only i could learn how to get a good reaction time :sleeping: :cry:

[You Te]

Wow!! Stoker 2001 is becoming quite the track racer. It must be nice to have time and money.

[stoker2001]

Wow!! Stoker 2001 is becoming quite the track racer. It must be nice to have time and money.Te,if i had your money,i would burn mine....LOL

[bp]

Wow!! Stoker 2001 is becoming quite the track racer. It must be nice to have time and money.
you can't talk to him anymore, he's parked the wacker and taken up driving a jet boat now :)

[Blown 472]

blown- i actively discourage randy from racing. if he goes racing then i lose 1/2 my pit crew (him) and then i cant go. Besides that he is right about the expense of it. I dropped close to 800 bucks last race for 7 passes down the track. Its an expensive hobby that to me is worth every penny.
:)
a trip to the river costs him less and he gets to drive his boat all weekend and race every boat on the water. that's his deal and he enjoys it. but don't think that he's afraid to race or doesn't know what he's doing at the track because he's been going and pitting at njba events since he was a kid.
Wow, that is pretty spendy. Thats cool, just giving him some shit as I haven't for awhile.

[stoker2001]

you can't talk to him anymore, he's parked the wacker and taken up driving a jet boat now :)its true to an extent :sqeyes: boy do i have some explaning to do now :squiggle: :( :D

[You Te]

its true to an extent :sqeyes: boy do i have some explaning to do now :squiggle: :( :D
WTF S 2001 What am I missing here.

[Unchained]

You Te,
You'll like this one, this is a video of the my jet against the quickest outboard I ever seen run.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/UnchvsDrag120.mpg
My GPS said 113 as I passed the camera man at the 1/8 mi mark.
It was hard to get an even start without a flagman so I had to play catch up for the first 1/2 of the run.
Here's a video of the same run from in the cockpit.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/unchvstomsboat.MPG
Sadly my friend with the outboard flipped his boat last weekend and didn't get hurt but the hull is scrap.
The outboards seem to run so close to the ragged edge that they seem unsafe to me.
In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a jet to 85 to 90% of it's top speed and by then you usually know whos doing the stomping.
I've skipped accross other boats wakes at 100 and it's not fun so I try to keep the runs short on local lakes.

[Cs19]

In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a jet to 85 to 90% of it's top speed and by then you usually know whos doing the stomping.
yep, exactly.
I still like the idea of racing to the 1/8 on the river to keep the speeds down.115 on the riv is still pretty fast,at the 1/8 the speed isnt quite that high.
I know if i had to go a 1/2 mile to win a race, id be looking at getting my holeshot issues figured out.

[cyclone]

Fock i'm putting my 1/8 mile gears and flux capacitors in the boat for river trips then. :idea:

[You Te]

You Te,
You'll like this one, this is a video of the my jet against the quickest outboard I ever seen run.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/UnchvsDrag120.mpg
My GPS said 113 as I passed the camera man at the 1/8 mi mark.
It was hard to get an even start without a flagman so I had to play catch up for the first 1/2 of the run.
Here's a video of the same run from in the cockpit.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/unchvstomsboat.MPG
Sadly my friend with the outboard flipped his boat last weekend and didn't get hurt but the hull is scrap.
The outboards seem to run so close to the ragged edge that they seem unsafe to me.
In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a jet to 85 to 90% of it's top speed and by then you usually know whos doing the stomping.
I've skipped accross other boats wakes at 100 and it's not fun so I try to keep the runs short on local lakes.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

[bp]

Wow, that is pretty spendy. Thats cool, just giving him some shit as I haven't for awhile.
don't forget, that includes the cheerios he had for breakfast the day he left for the track, and the ice he bought for the cooler... ;)

[77charger]

In my opinion, quickness is what wins races at the river.If anyone wants to race me, I make sure its from a dead stop or a slow roll (at idle with the bucket open) even though my boats a turd in the 1/8 mile compared to the cp 18's,I still think thats how a race should go down.Thats drag racing! I dont see WJ and Dave Connely trying to pair up at a 25 mph roll. Drag racing is from a dead stop, always has been, always will be. If your boat wont take a set or cavitates,well ya better bust out the "excuses" list and rattle a few off.
As far as length of a race, I have no problem going a full 1/4 if the condtions are good, but I still think its almost always over in the 1/8 mile.
If i was smarter and could type a sentence i would say the same thing. :rollside: (besides the jet boat talk)esp this part
"Drag racing is from a dead stop, always has been, always will be. If your boat wont take a set or cavitates,well ya better bust out the "excuses" list and rattle a few off."But if you lose forget the excuses a loss is a loss a win is a win its what wins at race time that matters not bench race time LOL

[77charger]

the point was that over the course of a full 1/4 mile i was able to catch up and run quicker. reaction time or no reaction time. the point is that an 1/8 of a mile is a wussy race. Stand on it for a full pass that's all i'm saying. this crap about getting the holeshot and letting off because someone thinks they've won the race is dumb and that's all i'm saying.
races are won at the start there can easily be a 1/2 second difference between boats REACTION TIME MATTERS.I ran 9.75 (I still dont know how :D i think my foot got stuck on the down pedal)And beat a 9.51 i had a .145 light the loser had a .5 something light.My last pass i did in drag boat i ran a 9.10 and lost to a 9.22 i had a crappy .345 light the winner had a .222 light.I had alot on my mind from our other boat just crashing before i ran and when i dedcided to leave the rope TOO LATE.

[stoker2001]

You Te,
You'll like this one, this is a video of the my jet against the quickest outboard I ever seen run.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/UnchvsDrag120.mpg
My GPS said 113 as I passed the camera man at the 1/8 mi mark.
It was hard to get an even start without a flagman so I had to play catch up for the first 1/2 of the run.
Here's a video of the same run from in the cockpit.
http://www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/unchvstomsboat.MPG
Sadly my friend with the outboard flipped his boat last weekend and didn't get hurt but the hull is scrap.
The outboards seem to run so close to the ragged edge that they seem unsafe to me.
In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a jet to 85 to 90% of it's top speed and by then you usually know whos doing the stomping.
I've skipped accross other boats wakes at 100 and it's not fun so I try to keep the runs short on local lakes.
unchained your boat really friggen huals the mail :sqeyes: have you or your outboard buddy ever got an official time slip at drags?if i had to guess i would think you are deep into the nines??

[DeputyDawg]

Hey cyclone, does your flux capacitor come in off idle or is it an original 88mph piece?

[cyclone]

races are won at the start there can easily be a 1/2 second difference between boats REACTION TIME MATTERS.I ran 9.75 (I still dont know how :D i think my foot got stuck on the down pedal)And beat a 9.51 i had a .145 light the loser had a .5 something light.My last pass i did in drag boat i ran a 9.10 and lost to a 9.22 i had a crappy .345 light the winner had a .222 light.I had alot on my mind from our other boat just crashing before i ran and when i dedcided to leave the rope TOO LATE.
I'm well aware of what wins races. the point was and I'll say it again....there are guys who like to race at the river that will only run their shit wide open for a few seconds, just long enough to get the holeshot and then they let off the gas as if they won the race. Not much of a race if you ask me. If that's the case then i'll just start leaving early on anyone that lines up against me and declare myself the winner after 300 feet and say too bad you should have left before me.

[Unchained]

unchained your boat really friggen huals the mail :sqeyes: have you or your outboard buddy ever got an official time slip at drags?if i had to guess i would think you are deep into the nines??
The nearest boat drags are a long trip from here.
I am more into spending a day of recreational boating then driving 7+ hr each way to make a couple runs and spend several hundred dollars doing it. I've probably put over 25 hrs on this boat this season so far.
Tom's Seabold had run a best ET of 9.5 but he usually ran in the ME class.
I haven't ran a 1/4 mi yet. I'm sure my boat has the capability of running in the low 8's like R & D Express who had the same hull. I've got about the same power and pump parts as Roger used. My hulls heavier though by 100# +. I need more fine tuning time on the pump setup yet. It's a slow process to get it perfect.
More power is just more boost and that's really easy to add. Those turbo's can put out 40# of boost, I'm running 20# now.
I'm trying to fine tune the pump setup a little at a time and be safe about it.

[bp]

I'm well aware of what wins races. the point was and I'll say it again....there are guys who like to race at the river that will only run their shit wide open for a few seconds, just long enough to get the holeshot and then they let off the gas as if they won the race. Not much of a race if you ask me. If that's the case then i'll just start leaving early on anyone that lines up against me and declare myself the winner after 300 feet and say too bad you should have left before me.
not surprising mike. from what i've heard, that's "river rules" :D and ya gotta be ready for it. you don't need any flux, just maybe better shoes? :rolleyes:

[cyclone]

Hey cyclone, does your flux capacitor come in off idle or is it an original 88mph piece?
Its the og 88 mph killa.

[You Te]

The nearest boat drags are a long trip from here.
I am more into spending a day of recreational boating then driving 7+ hr each way to make a couple runs and spend several hundred dollars doing it. I've probably put over 25 hrs on this boat this season so far.
Tom's Seabold had run a best ET of 9.5 but he usually ran in the ME class.
I haven't ran a 1/4 mi yet. I'm sure my boat has the capability of running in the low 8's like R & D Express who had the same hull. I've got about the same power and pump parts as Roger used. My hulls heavier though by 100# +. I need more fine tuning time on the pump setup yet. It's a slow process to get it perfect.
More power is just more boost and that's really easy to add. Those turbo's can put out 40# of boost, I'm running 20# now.
I'm trying to fine tune the pump setup a little at a time and be safe about it.
Does this guy have a SDS injector system on his motor?
I remember a guy named Tom calling me about his set-up
and he ran a Seabold at the drags.

[cyclone]

not surprising mike. from what i've heard, that's "river rules" :D and ya gotta be ready for it. you don't need any flux, just maybe better shoes? :rolleyes:
Your quite the funnyman bob. :sleeping:

[Cs19]

Unchained, thats impressive. Looked like you had your your foot in it for about 9 seconds and you lifted at 114, and she was still pulling. Be curious how it did in the 1/4.

[helter skelter]

I've heard these three on several occasions...
I don't have an inducer...
I have an aluminum impeller...
and...
last but not least...
I need to burn off some fuel first... (later that day) I don't have enough fuel.
At least at the track you don't get the bs (most of the time)... it's either ya run or ya don't and ya won or ya lost... that's about it.

[Unchained]

Does this guy have a SDS injector system on his motor?
I remember a guy named Tom calling me about his set-up
and he ran a Seabold at the drags.
Tom Wright is from Kalamazoo, Mi.
I don't know a lot about the setups they run but I think I heard something about an SDS injector. I've got to know a lot of the outboard crowd here in Mi and made a lot of new friends. They post on www.screamandfly.com more than on ***boat. There's only a handful of fast jets around here and V drives are about extinct. It seems that anyone with a jet or vdrive that can go over 100 leaves it home in the garage with no mufflers and calls it a "race boat". :rolleyes:
A guy made a two hour trip to race me yesterday (saturday) and he had an Allison with a modified 300 drag motor. He had raced it for years and has it setup really well.
We ran twice, on the first round we went from an idle and I found out what an incredible holeshot the Allisons have. He got three boat lengths on me immediately and I just caught up even with him at the 1/8 mi mark.
www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/mpvsrs2.MPG
GPS said 118 at just past the 1/8
http://childsdale-ind-prop.com/gps72305.JPG
On the second round we ran from planed out and that was a whole lot different.
www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/mpvsrs1.MPG
It was some great racing fun and I made some more friends in the outboard crowd.

[stoker2001]

A guy made a two hour trip to race me yesterday (saturday) and he had an Allison with a modified 300 drag motor. He had raced it for years and has it setup really well.
We ran twice, on the first round we went from an idle and I found out what an incredible holeshot the Allisons have. He got three boat lengths on me immediately and I just caught up even with him at the 1/8 mi mark.
www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/mpvsrs2.MPG
GPS said 118 at just past the 1/8
http://childsdale-ind-prop.com/gps72305.JPG
On the second round we ran from planed out and that was a whole lot different.
www.childsdale-ind-prop.com/mpvsrs1.MPG
It was some great racing fun and I made some more friends in the outboard crowd.Is the guy with the red allison Rich Srnec from ST Joseph, MI?if it is,rich has one of the fastest non-nitrous outboards in the country.he is a regular on the ODBA circuit pro/gas class and is always near the top.being i rope race a whacker (#561 IHBA),i could give a good guess that rich would run close to a four second 1/8 mile at 108 with full quarter at 9.2 at 118 rope racing.when a whacker is set up right,its hard for some inboarders to digest the performance you can get with 153 cubic inches without no power adder :confused: :D

[NELSON#109]

I Had No Idea He Had These Type Of Fellings Towards Me..... Who Would Have Guessed?

[Unchained]

Is the guy with the red allison Rich Srnec from ST Joseph, MI? if it is, Rich has one of the fastest non-nitrous outboards in the country. He is a regular on the ODBA circuit pro/gas class and is always near the top. Being I rope race a whacker (#561 IHBA), I could give a good guess that rich would run close to a four second 1/8 mile at 108 with full quarter at 9.2 at 118.when a whacker is set up right,its hard for some inboarders to digest the performance you can get with 153 cubic inches without no power adder :confused: :D
Yes it was Rich,
He's a heck of a nice guy and a tough competitor. We had a great time running the boats off yesterday. Not much else will get the adrenaline pumping like running 100+ in an 1/8 mi. in a boat.
While posting on a thread on S & F a few weeks ago he asked "ya wanna drag" So I responded "Sure". I don't know if either of us knew really what the other guy had to run until yesterday. I thought he was going to only run 100 in the 1/4 and it was going to be easier.
I can see where a well setup outboard would be hard to beat on the holeshot from an idle.
I did have my excuse all ready though in case I needed it,
" Well I'm carrying 400 # more weight " :D
And as an alternative, "I've got a lake boat and yours is a race boat"
I can see where other OBers will now show up until I have to add more turbo boost to stay outfront. As long as we're having fun and no one crashes or blows their motor it's all good.

[stoker2001]

thats to funny and goes to show its a small world :coffeycup rich is a merc guru and has done some air manegement mods to my block that worked out well.now i can email him now and yank his chain :devil: :D

[bp]

thats to funny and goes to show its a small world :coffeycup rich is a merc guru and has done some air manegement mods to my block that worked out well.now i can email him now and yank his chain :devil: :D
give it up; :rolleyes: you're a jetboat guy now. stokerjet. better yet, jet stoker. kinda has a ring to it :idea: HAAAA

[LVjetboy]

"races are won at the start there can easily be a 1/2 second difference between boats REACTION TIME MATTERS.I ran 9.75..."
There you go talking 1/4 mile track. In Cyclone's first post he mentioned sawed-off and "the river" is that track? If so my bad. If not how many 1/4 mile tracks a river? Are there ropes on the river or timing lights or safety crew? And if you pull next to someone on the river/lake at speed...or stop...or on-plane...cruise or whatever, are you're gonna slow down and rope together to have an impromtu safety meeting discussing details of who wins or reaction time? I think not.
jer

[LVjetboy]

"If that's the case then i'll just start leaving early on anyone that lines up against me and declare myself the winner after 300 feet and say too bad you should have left before me.
Lame. A race at the river/lake a race. There's no set distance, starting speed, rules, score board or reaction time slips. You run conditions you choose. And you'll know who won whether you admit it or not.
From video, Unchained lost the shot, yet won the race. You think that OB driver blaimed reaction time (the lights) or not a full 1/4 mile (the measured course)?
jer

[LVjetboy]

"At least at the track you don't get the bs (most of the time)... it's either ya run or ya don't and ya won or ya lost... that's about it."
So at the "track" you don't get bs? You pass the guy but he wins on et? He passes you but you win 'cause you cut a good light? Excuse me. Although on the track a win is well-defined, how is that more important than the river/lake win? Not sure. I race the lake and river and got no excuses. I KNOW when the guy next to me out-classes me. Do I need a measured course with timing lights to tell me that?
Nope.
jer

[Blown 472]

"At least at the track you don't get the bs (most of the time)... it's either ya run or ya don't and ya won or ya lost... that's about it."
So at the "track" you don't get bs? You pass the guy but he wins on et? He passes you but you win 'cause you cut a good light? Excuse me. Although on the track a win is well-defined, how is that more important than the river/lake win? Not sure. I race the lake and river and got no excuses. I KNOW when the guy next to me out-classes me. Do I need a measured course with timing lights to tell me that?
Nope.
jer
Sounds like someones ascared to take his rig to the track. It can be a humbling experience for some folks.

[bp]

We ran twice, on the first round we went from an idle and I found out what an incredible holeshot the Allisons have. He got three boat lengths on me immediately and I just caught up even with him at the 1/8 mi mark.
i remember sitting next to kev (oops, i mean jetstoker) on the rope some months back, and i swear, he hit it and that thing jumped out of the water and landed on the starting line.. i'm like WT???? 'course, he redlit, but that thing left...
In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a jet to 85 to 90% of it's top speed and by then you usually know whos doing the stomping.
I've skipped accross other boats wakes at 100 and it's not fun so I try to keep the runs short on local lakes.
mark, i'd generally agree with you're speed opinion, but flats, hydros, and some of the outboards don't quite fit that profile (especially hydros, and some flats). those guys are not at 90% at the 1/8, are charging hard, and have a lot left to give. i'd agree that running over rollers/wakes at 100 isn't fun, but trying to catch a hydro/flat is even less fun because those things are -usually- setup to get their top speed. jets are about quick. unless you have one of the others way out powered, hard to catch 'em imo...
hey mark, you wearin' any safety gear on these passes? just curious.
ya know jer, why don't you knock off your put downs of dragboat racing? if you want to talk "lame", you're one of the few people talking here that hasn't done both - river/lake raced, AND made laps on the track. you have no idea what you're talking about, other than a few -drive by- distant observations.
if you want to promote river/lake racing, 1/8, 1/4, 1 mile, whatever, controlled, uncontrolled, whatever, knock yourself out. but try to do that without the put downs of something you have absolutely zero experience with.

[moneysucker]

I've heard these three on several occasions...
I don't have an inducer...
I have an aluminum impeller...
and...
last but not least...
I need to burn off some fuel first... (later that day) I don't have enough fuel.
At least at the track you don't get the bs (most of the time)... it's either ya run or ya don't and ya won or ya lost... that's about it.
Don't forget the ever popular, "My oil pressure is low" Hand gesture to suck you down in a hole then take off on you. Or his other special where he crosses in front of you when turning around so you have to cross the wake and he has clean water.
Cy

[Unchained]

mark, i'd generally agree with you're speed opinion, but flats, hydros, and some of the outboards don't quite fit that profile (especially hydros, and some flats). those guys are not at 90% at the 1/8, are charging hard, and have a lot left to give. i'd agree that running over rollers/wakes at 100 isn't fun, but trying to catch a hydro/flat is even less fun because those things are -usually- setup to get their top speed. jets are about quick. unless you have one of the others way out powered, hard to catch 'em imo...
hey mark, you wearin' any safety gear on these passes? just curious.
Thanks for the input Bob, I'm wearing a lifeline jacket and a helmet when running over 100. That Stealth hull is so stable I haven't had any bad handling out of it yet.
I know what you mean about the flatbottoms and hydros but since they are
about extinct around here it's not a factor at all for lake and river racing. I probably don't see 6 a year and I boat every weekend.
My post does say "In my opinion an 1/8 mi will get a JET to 85 to 90% of it's top speed"

[bp]

mark, i know you said jets, but you implied that the spankin would be complete. i'm suggesting that some boats are just getting ready to charge. maybe not where you are, but some.
interestingly, ihba does provide an 1/8 mile eliminator index, in case weather gets so bad boats can't run 1/4 safely. here they are:
1/4 1/8
7sec = 4.20
8sec = 4.60
9sec = 5.00
10sec = 5.50
11sec = 6.00
don't forget the rope/starting line distance...

[helter skelter]

Don't forget the ever popular, "My oil pressure is low" Hand gesture to suck you down in a hole then take off on you. Or his other special where he crosses in front of you when turning around so you have to cross the wake and he has clean water.
Cy
That BS really chaps me when people have to pull it. Either race or don't... but to pull crap like that is plain lame... though you do run into people who have no other way to get out in front... albiet for a short distance. Hell... I ran against the same dude (Crusader dude) several times in different situations (from a 30 mph roll... from a standstill... etc...) just so that I whipped him fair and square. And then I ran against JP several times to get my ass whipped... but that's how it goes.
Btw... who said I was refferning to a particular person? Tisk tisk... not good for one to be known for such that people know exactly who is being spoken of.

[moneysucker]

That BS really chaps me when people have to pull it. Either race or don't... but to pull crap like that is plain lame... though you do run into people who have no other way to get out in front... albiet for a short distance. Hell... I ran against the same dude (Crusader dude) several times in different situations (from a 30 mph roll... from a standstill... etc...) just so that I whipped him fair and square. And then I ran against JP several times to get my ass whipped... but that's how it goes.
Btw... who said I was refferning to a particular person? Tisk tisk... not good for one to be known for such that people know exactly who is being spoken of.
I thought you would like that one.
James, If you know anyone that is interested in a crusader less engine, Droop nozzle, shoe rails, motor mounts, guages, steering, etc... Lickity split jr is selling it for $3000. on a tandem trailer. If you know anyone interested, besides chris, I keep trying to sell it to him.

[DeputyDawg]

There is an idiot at Lake Texoma that has a beautiful five shades of Candy colored old gullwing with a B&M 250 mega blower 427 in it that likes to try to race everybody. If at any point in the race he falls behind he immediately lets off the throttle and as he slows to an idle kills the motor and jumps back and starts frantically looking around the engine compartment like something is wrong. When you go over to help he usually says that he heard a noise or ingested something through the blower. If the race was a close one he will try you again after checking things out and if the other guy gets out on him again he will go through the whole routine again except this time he will actually let somebody tow him back in and he will put it on the trailer and leave. Lame ass!

[LVjetboy]

"ya know jer, why don't you knock off your put downs of dragboat racing?"
You misread my posts bp. Never intended to "put down" organized drag boat racing. Although I'll challenge posts from drag boat racers, pro builders or whomever...my challenge not a put-down of racing or the jet performance profession or trade they participate in.
Backup a bit. Read the big picture. I'm posting my opinion to Cyclone's original thread (and a cross-forum v-drive thread) in response to several who claim 1/4 mile (or 1/8 mil...or whatever mile) the only true measure of a win no matter track, river or lake. If you’ve read these posts you’ll know. Some whine about distance, some whine about acceleration. Some say whine about lake vs. race.
But Cyclone's original post talked about "sawed off at the river" not sawed off at the track. Wonder why? Here I am, keeping on-topic, even if that not Cyclone's intention. If instead I misread his post and he's talking about excuses at the track? My bad. Those running the track I'm sure know more about track excuses. But I'd be surprised if the mentality between track and lake not the same...even if words a bit different.
"if you want to talk "lame", you're one of the few people talking here that hasn't done both - river/lake raced, AND made laps on the track. you have no idea what you're talking about"
Track and river/lake two different things. So you dismiss my thoughts because I don't line up on the rope...concluding I have no idea about what I'm talking about? Feel free, but that's lame.
I've never run the liquid track but I've run organized 1/4 mile asphalt drag racing with a 1/4 mile measured course and time slips. I've also run no rules street racing. I understand the difference between a measured course with 1/100 second accuracy and equalizing rules evolving ¼ mile fine tuning tactics. And I understand by contrast the no rules run-what-you-brung tactics. So freakin' what? Not rocket science by any measure.
Cyclone jumped on the 1/4 mile band wagon saying 1/8 mile was wussy no matter. He implied ¼ is all that counts. Distance one thing, quickness another as you know. For lake/river racing I could care less 1/8 or 1/4 or 3/4 or 1 mile. Any set standard distance wins organized races once you adjust setup. But on the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no measured or handicapping standards, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins.
Pretty simple.
Read my posts on matches. The only guy matching me on the lake I detailed conditions and what happened accurately. I didn’t whine about distance, I didn’t whine about hole-shot. I didn’t whine about pax or stereo.
In fact I said I think he pulled me.
But I didn’t say as Cyclone posted, “i'll just have to start punking fools until they give me a rematch or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat.”
So Cyclone can’t get it up in 1/8? Or is it ¼ mile? Bp you mentioned 1/8, but you have what it takes to win in ¾ mile?
Bp, you smack me for not running the liquid ¼ yet not smack Cyclone for his funny and cool yet bogus distance post? Oh that’s right, he’s a fellow racer…no smack allowed. “I ain’t going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat…” Whatever.
jer

[cyclone]

"ya know jer, why don't you knock off your put downs of dragboat racing?"
You misread my posts bp. Never intended to "put down" organized drag boat racing. Although I'll challenge posts from drag boat racers, pro builders or whomever...my challenge not a put-down of racing or the jet performance profession or trade they participate in.
Backup a bit. Read the big picture. I'm posting my opinion to Cyclone's original thread (and a cross-forum v-drive thread) in response to several who claim 1/4 mile (or 1/8 mil...or whatever mile) the only true measure of a win no matter track, river or lake. If you’ve read these posts you’ll know. Some whine about distance, some whine about acceleration. Some say whine about lake vs. race.
But Cyclone's original post talked about "sawed off at the river" not sawed off at the track. Wonder why? Here I am, keeping on-topic, even if that not Cyclone's intention. If instead I misread his post and he's talking about excuses at the track? My bad. Those running the track I'm sure know more about track excuses. But I'd be surprised if the mentality between track and lake not the same...even if words a bit different.
"if you want to talk "lame", you're one of the few people talking here that hasn't done both - river/lake raced, AND made laps on the track. you have no idea what you're talking about"
Track and river/lake two different things. So you dismiss my thoughts because I don't line up on the rope...concluding I have no idea about what I'm talking about? Feel free, but that's lame.
I've never run the liquid track but I've run organized 1/4 mile asphalt drag racing with a 1/4 mile measured course and time slips. I've also run no rules street racing. I understand the difference between a measured course with 1/100 second accuracy and equalizing rules evolving ¼ mile fine tuning tactics. And I understand by contrast the no rules run-what-you-brung tactics. So freakin' what? Not rocket science by any measure.
Cyclone jumped on the 1/4 mile band wagon saying 1/8 mile was wussy no matter. He implied ¼ is all that counts. Distance one thing, quickness another as you know. For lake/river racing I could care less 1/8 or 1/4 or 3/4 or 1 mile. Any set standard distance wins organized races once you adjust setup. But on the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no measured or handicapping standards, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins.
Pretty simple.
Read my posts on matches. The only guy matching me on the lake I detailed conditions and what happened accurately. I didn’t whine about distance, I didn’t whine about hole-shot. I didn’t whine about pax or stereo.
In fact I said I think he pulled me.
But I didn’t say as Cyclone posted, “i'll just have to start punking fools until they give me a rematch or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat.”
So Cyclone can’t get it up in 1/8? Or is it ¼ mile? Bp you mentioned 1/8, but you have what it takes to win in ¾ mile?
Bp, you smack me for not running the liquid ¼ yet not smack Cyclone for his funny and cool yet bogus distance post? Oh that’s right, he’s a fellow racer…no smack allowed. “I ain’t going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat…” Whatever.
jer
i'm on the bandwagon! whoohoo! what a compliment from such an esteemed individual :rolleyes:

[CrazyHippy]

*snip*
But on the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no measured or handicapping standards, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins.
Pretty simple.
*snip*
jer
I agree w/ the intent of your post, but if I feel i've trout smacked someone bad enough in 1/8th, i'm not gonna run a full 1/4 just to show off.
Does that mean i actually lost, backing out after pulling 3-4 boat lengths?
If so i'm gonna start running a MUCH bigger prop, you might kick my asss in a real 1/4 and have 10 boat lengths, but when i get up to speed, your toast :cool: :hammerhea
Once again I agree w/ the jist of your post, and you are 100% right if it's a close race.
BJH

[stoker2001]

[QUOTE=bp]i remember sitting next to kev (oops, i mean jetstoker) on the rope some months back, and i swear, he hit it and that thing jumped out of the water and landed on the starting line.. i'm like WT???? 'course, he redlit, but that thing left...
Ya that friggen inconsistant digital EFI :cry: wish it would of left like that against Baretta at Dexter :yuk: maybe i will jump on the ken/santoro band wagon and add n2o to cure that bog :confused: then i would have to wait for the five or six or get the big red bulb :cool:

[bp]

Ya that friggen inconsistant digital EFI :cry: wish it would of left like that against Baretta at Dexter :yuk: maybe i will jump on the ken/santoro band wagon and add n2o to cure that bog :confused: then i would have to wait for the five or six or get the big red bulb :cool:
yah, then you could run 9's :idea: :D
but then, that would be assuming you were still driving that thing and hadn't turned into a jetboat driver... :D
you know.... you're never ever gonna live this down. i just hope you realize that. you must pay if i gotta pay. yer just spendin' a few bux, me 'n rick gotta go through all this pain... :D

[bp]

"ya know jer, why don't you knock off your put downs of dragboat racing?"
You misread my posts bp. Never intended to "put down" organized drag boat racing. Although I'll challenge posts from drag boat racers, pro builders or whomever...my challenge not a put-down of racing or the jet performance profession or trade they participate in.
by challenge, what exactly do you mean? asking questions? or just saying that we're all full of shit and that we don't know what we're talking about, based on your all around vast store of knowledge gained through years of dragboat racing experience? whether mike referred to 1/4 or 1/8 or 1 mile, who cares? you can't relate, so you call it lame? what's the problem? all of sudden it's off limits? whether you want to see it or not, you cannot post positive without putting something else down.
Backup a bit. Read the big picture. I'm posting my opinion to Cyclone's original thread (and a cross-forum v-drive thread) in response to several who claim 1/4 mile (or 1/8 mil...or whatever mile) the only true measure of a win no matter track, river or lake. If you’ve read these posts you’ll know. Some whine about distance, some whine about acceleration. Some say whine about lake vs. race.
1/4 and 1/8 happens to be the only "measurable" distances available to the average river racer, if they are interested in knowing what their boat can do. many of the people posting here have done that, or are planning on doing that. what's so difficult to understand? even mark is testing his boat on an 1/8. if you want to "race" for 3 miles, is that a "drag race"? or is it something else? there are river racers running up the rogue for many miles, but that isn't drag racing? i think that when mike was referring to getting "sawed off", and people were talking about 1/4 or 1/8, they were specifically talking about "drag racing", and NOTHING ELSE!
But Cyclone's original post talked about "sawed off at the river" not sawed off at the track. Wonder why? Here I am, keeping on-topic, even if that not Cyclone's intention. If instead I misread his post and he's talking about excuses at the track? My bad. Those running the track I'm sure know more about track excuses. But I'd be surprised if the mentality between track and lake not the same...even if words a bit different.
who cares, whats the difference, why does it matter, why does one have to be BETTER than the other? simply because YOU choose to do one, and REFUSE to participate the other?
"if you want to talk "lame", you're one of the few people talking here that hasn't done both - river/lake raced, AND made laps on the track. you have no idea what you're talking about"
Track and river/lake two different things. So you dismiss my thoughts because I don't line up on the rope...concluding I have no idea about what I'm talking about? Feel free, but that's lame.
I've never run the liquid track but I've run organized 1/4 mile asphalt drag racing with a 1/4 mile measured course and time slips. I've also run no rules street racing. I understand the difference between a measured course with 1/100 second accuracy and equalizing rules evolving ¼ mile fine tuning tactics. And I understand by contrast the no rules run-what-you-brung tactics. So freakin' what? Not rocket science by any measure.
Cyclone jumped on the 1/4 mile band wagon saying 1/8 mile was wussy no matter. He implied ¼ is all that counts. Distance one thing, quickness another as you know. For lake/river racing I could care less 1/8 or 1/4 or 3/4 or 1 mile. Any set standard distance wins organized races once you adjust setup. But on the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no measured or handicapping standards, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins.
well that's great jer, thanks for the insights. i'm glad to know now after all these years that track and river/lake conditions are entirely different. and i'm really happy for you that you used to race cars, that must make you an expert in dragboat racing. hell, all you need to do is toss that thing on the water and autowinner. 'nuff said.
yes, track conditions are 100% predictable all the time, thank you very much for that insight. i'll be sure to keep that in mind.
Pretty simple.
Read my posts on matches. The only guy matching me on the lake I detailed conditions and what happened accurately. I didn’t whine about distance, I didn’t whine about hole-shot. I didn’t whine about pax or stereo.
In fact I said I think he pulled me.
But I didn’t say as Cyclone posted, “i'll just have to start punking fools until they give me a rematch or at least stand on it for a full 1/4. i aint going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat.”
So Cyclone can’t get it up in 1/8? Or is it ¼ mile? Bp you mentioned 1/8, but you have what it takes to win in ¾ mile?
Bp, you smack me for not running the liquid ¼ yet not smack Cyclone for his funny and cool yet bogus distance post? Oh that’s right, he’s a fellow racer…no smack allowed. “I ain’t going to win no 1/8 mile wussy race in my boat…” Whatever.
jer
if you were paying attention, i've been bangin' on mike a bit more than i've wanted to for other reasons. but in your case, he'd kick your ass at a glance.
and can i run 3/4 of a mile? that's the thing you fool, you have no idea what i've run through. you have no idea what track conditions are like, you only assume. you have no idea what it's like to run through bouys with a 30mph crosswind and 1' chop. you think you can run with me? all i have to say is, if you want to take me on, you better bring some juice, 'cause i'll kick that southwind wannabe pos's ass all over the freakin' lake. just bring it. mike and chris can take care of the light work, i'll take you as far out the back door as you care to go.

[steelcomp]

Hmmmm...me thinks Jer struck a nerve. :notam:
It's like this, as I see it. Put up, or shut up. If you choose to pair off with someone, at the lake, at the river or at the track, you'll either win, or you won't. All the excuses, all the reasons, all the BS about where, how, why whaaa whaaa whaaa, won't change anything. If your girlfriend's in the boat, don't freekin race. If the guy jumps you, don't chase. If you think you'll need a 1/4 to win, 'cause you're a little slow oiut of the hole, then make sure before you race you say "this is for a 1/4" or whatever it is. Don't just pull up along some guy, think you have his ass in your hand, only to get your's handed to you, and start cryin. That's your own damn fault! If you got the guy at 1/8, and winning is that damn important to you, then shut'er down.
I agree with bp about what this post was about and that was drag racing. The standard was set for drag racing a LONG time ago at 1/4 and 1/8 mi. Cars and boats are set up to run at these distances and not any mjore. Why would you set up a drag somethingorother to run any different? Why would you want to compare a Bonneville or dry lakes car to a drag car? Why would you think that because you're racing on the river that that negates what the comparison of performance should be??
I know this first hand. If you wnat to beat bp, you better get him outa the hole, (and bring your game) 'cause that freekin tank of a Southwind of his is on a mission! Nose comes up, one hop, and By BY!! (I think you have that thing filled with helium somewhere, Bob, but I swear I don't know where!) :D

[roostwear]

Post after post he still comes off like lvCHETboy......

[steelcomp]

Post after post he still comes off like lvCHETboy......LOL!! :D

[cyclone]

bob you can bang on me all you like but I'm still not gonna let you lead when we dance! :D
could this be the longest thread started by a joke post in just jets history?
ya know one of these days we'll have to get a just jets grudge match weekend at the river going to settle all this bs. too many egos in the room for things to just end with bs posts. i'd say do it at the track but not everyone wants or can drop the cash to race.

[djdtpr]

mike and chris can take care of the light work, i'll take you as far out the back door as you care to go.[/QUOTE]
I think they can handle the heavy weight also and go to the river.

[steelcomp]

Last year at CBBB I was coming back from Needles with ST, and we were passed by this big ol' white Liberator OB. Well, that just wouldn't do, so I rolled on it, and he rolled on it, and I rolled some more, and he jacked his motor and when I saw that I floored it. He was already goin for it, and about a half a boat in front of me, and that's where we stayed. For at least four, maybe five miles. Flat out, right atound 6000, probably about 95-97. Side by side, right down the river. I thought that must have been a cool sight (and sound) from the bank, 'cause we were hauling ass, and I was running open/dry. I finally backed out when I saw my oil pressure down around 45. It was HOT! (Mobil One 15-50)
Don't know what this really has to do with anything, but just to say we raced a LONG way. Who won?? Well, he was in front when I shut down, so.... :frown:
Actually, the boats were dead even. I couldn't pull him, but he couldn't get away, either! :D

[Cs19]

bp's been doin more than just 'bangin' on mike, hes been HAMMERING on mike. :jawdrop: Been waiting for it to hit the fan, mikes kept a cool head about it all. :D
enough already, river racing is river racing, and driving/reacting is just as important on the river when you have a good match up next to you.Its all about gettin the jump, just like at the track.
I have been in my share of races in the last 2 seasons on the riv, the best driver Ive paired up with on the river was Dannys bud Shaun,hes good. But cutting a .1 light when the heat is on and its do or die is tottally different, its not that easy.The last thing you want to do is pack up and head home so making it happen is what its all about, at the river nothing matters, you can just do it over again or just grab another cold one and forget about it.Its tottally different.
river racing is river racing, no rules, no 1/4 mile no 1/2 mile, its river racing, deal with it.

[LVjetboy]

Cyclone, "i'm on the bandwagon! whoohoo! what a compliment from such an esteemed individual."
I'm not esteemed so what? I post what I think. Let me refine my bandwagon post a bit...
Lvjetboy, "Cyclone jumped on the 1/4 mile bandwagon saying 1/8 mile was wussy no matter. I say distance one thing, quickness another. For lake/river racing I could care less 1/8 or 1/4 or 3/4 or 1 mile. By comparison, any set standard distance or power limit wins organized races once you adjust setup and power and your reaction is consistent."
But what do I know? On the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no handicap, standards or accurate measurement, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins. That means, when you line up on the lake/river, a win's a win...whoever ends up out front wins. The fact you lined up means you agree to the terms. If instead you don't agree then put it on the trailer.
Those terms don't restrict distance or et or pax or stereo or whatever. Who's out front when the other guy gives up wins. Yet even with those uncertain and changing conditions, no standards and certainly no 1/100 second timing lights, you'll usually know who's king on the river/lake, whether some like to admit it or not.
If you line up with a 38' 3500 hp cat and call a 1/4 mile a win whatever. You'll know. Likewise if you line up with a jet or v drive comparable to yours but he has 2 pax and you by yourself, you'll know. Is that so confusing? If instead you'd rather massage you ego and claim you won even though he had 4 pax and a circus monkey with an elephant in the back that's your choice. Is the difference so freakin' hard to understand or so trivial it's not worth mentioning? I'm thinking no.
I'm thinking instead, egos are what's going on here. The race ego. The river ego. The bullshit ego. Things having nothing to do with reality.
jer

[LVjetboy]

Bp posted, "by challenge, what exactly do you mean? asking questions? or just saying that we're all full of shit and that we don't know what we're talking about, based on your all around vast store of knowledge gained through years of dragboat racing experience?
Asking questions (and challenging accepted status quo) I think is the basis for knowledge and understanding. Are you intimidated by question's? Who's we? Com'on Bp. I'm voicing my opinion. Whether that be asking a question or challenging an opinion you or another respected racer or pro builder posted.
BP posted, "...whether mike referred to 1/4 or 1/8 or 1 mile, who cares? you can't relate, so you call it lame? what's the problem?
I can relate. I don't think you understand. I'll post later if I have time.
jer

[Blown 472]

Cyclone, "i'm on the bandwagon! whoohoo! what a compliment from such an esteemed individual."
I'm not esteemed so what? I post what I think. Let me refine my bandwagon post a bit...
Lvjetboy, "Cyclone jumped on the 1/4 mile bandwagon saying 1/8 mile was wussy no matter. I say distance one thing, quickness another. For lake/river racing I could care less 1/8 or 1/4 or 3/4 or 1 mile. By comparison, any set standard distance or power limit wins organized races once you adjust setup and power and your reaction is consistent."
But what do I know? On the lake/river with unpredictable conditions and no handicap, standards or accurate measurement, who’s ahead when the other guy gives up wins. That means, when you line up on the lake/river, a win's a win...whoever ends up out front wins. The fact you lined up means you agree to the terms. If instead you don't agree then put it on the trailer.
Those terms don't restrict distance or et or pax or stereo or whatever. Who's out front when the other guy gives up wins. Yet even with those uncertain and changing conditions, no standards and certainly no 1/100 second timing lights, you'll usually know who's king on the river/lake, whether some like to admit it or not.
If you line up with a 38' 3500 hp cat and call a 1/4 mile a win whatever. You'll know. Likewise if you line up with a jet or v drive comparable to yours but he has 2 pax and you by yourself, you'll know. Is that so confusing? If instead you'd rather massage you ego and claim you won even though he had 4 pax and a circus monkey with an elephant in the back that's your choice. Is the difference so freakin' hard to understand or so trivial it's not worth mentioning? I'm thinking no.
I'm thinking instead, egos are what's going on here. The race ego. The river ego. The bullshit ego. Things having nothing to do with reality.
jer
Blah blah blah, it is ok to be afraid to race your boat and get slapped with a bit of realitiy. Just busten your balls jer. :mix:

[Cs19]

I'm thinking instead, egos are what's going on here. The race ego. The river ego. The bullshit ego. Things having nothing to do with reality.
jer
Yep,lots of that shit going on around here, watch all the river egos pipe down right before labor day.
Lv will you be at cbbb?
What is SO unbelievable to me is, you go the river and flat out hand someone their ass 3,4,5 times in a row and THEY call it. "You won"...So after about 3 or 4 weeks go by they start popping off again on the boards saying next time they are going to "own" you on the river..When in fact they havent even looked at the boat or probably havent even cleaned the POS since the last outing. Whats with these guys? Your boat does NOT get faster while sitting in the garage.Sure talkin smack is fun and it kills time in between river trips, but cmon.Lots of people on this board pull this chit.Why cant people take the loss when you get beat. When I get beat it just motivates me to make my boat better..Hbjet tells the story like it is, if gets beat he will come home and post it with details, I got beat and this is how it happened, no BS, just the facts.
One more that kills me is, you race someone a few times, and they wave you off.. "no more, you won"...Okay, you take off looking for another race..Later that night in the campground you hear they have been saying "he kept jumping on me" or "he lifted early" or "hes lucky my shit was not running good" whatever the weak excuse may be, you should have brought that up when we were on the water..From now on Im going to ask if they are satisfied or not cause its getting old.

[steelcomp]

Likewise if you line up with a jet or v drive comparable to yours but he has 2 pax and you by yourself, you'll know. Is that so confusing? If instead you'd rather massage you ego and claim you won even though he had 4 pax and a circus monkey with an elephant in the back that's your choice. Is the difference so freakin' hard to understand or so trivial it's not worth mentioning? I'm thinking no.
So let me ask you this Jer?
Who lined up with who?
Who's to say the guy with the circus minagery in his boat didn't line up with the the other guy? If you got a pax, cooler, elephant and your anchor, and you line up, IT"S A RACE!! No one's forcing anyone to do anything here. It's mutual, not one picking on another innocent victim. A win's a win. A race is a race. I was giving a friend a ride one evening (race time at the lake) and this guy was 200#+. Not exactly race trim. We picked on a few boats, and then before I knew it, I found myself in a 4 boat race, with myself, a blown CP, a Rogers with a Dart motor, and an Eliminator, and I spanked 'em all. No early shut dwown, either. I counted to ten full seconds in my mind. When I looked back, they were history! (One of my best evenings, best races, best EGO boosts! F yeah, you bet! :D) They all had solo drivers. I felt bad, though, 'cause the guys with the Rogers and Elim. came over to check out my Bahner, and we BS'd for a few, but it was getting dark. I told the guy with the Elim that he needed to get going (no lights) and he did, but a cop was waiting at the launch ramp, and he got a ticket. There were no excuses from those guys, either, just compliments and fun talk. The guy with the CP went and hid. I heard later that he was makin all kinds of excuses.
That was fun. :D I raced a bunch of guys at CBBB, some with pax, some not. I didn't get beat, but there weren't any excuses that I heard there, either.
And you're exactly correct about ego. This entire subject is 100% ego driven. Let's face it. Hot boating is a blast. Why is it so fun?? 'Cause it feeds our ego's. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is pretending there's something wrong with that, or that that's not true. :cool:

[djdtpr]

I heard a few this last weekend and used 1.
So much HP going to that pump theres no way i can leave from a stop.
Mine doesnt run good out of the hole i need a full quarter.
He wouldnt idle down with me he kept cruising up on me on a plain while i was idleing there.
I dont have any setup in this thing rite now.
It was all good though it was a blast,man a half mile is a long ways!

[djdtpr]

Yep,lots of that shit going on around here, watch all the river egos pipe down right before labor day.
I am looking fwd to it.No ego here!

[cyclone]

DJD- maybe that last pass was over a quarter but it didnt seem like a half. But then again at speed who knows? I counted to 10 and that was it. :D

[djdtpr]

I must count faster than you cause i counted to 14 but then again i was alittle excited.Thanks for comin out it was a good time and your mom seems way cool.

[cyclone]

do me a favor and tell trucker that i think he left his glasses in the truck sunday. thanks for having us. it was a great time. mom says hello.

[Squirtin Thunder]

After Saturday I came up with a new excuse;
My boat is full of water !!!

[TRG]

After Saturday I came up with a new excuse;
My boat is full of water !!!
Oh! do tell Jim! your not gettin off that easy there buddy!lol

[bottom feeder]

Best excuse for getting sawed off
"I shot off my big mouth on the Hot Boat forums"

[Cs19]

Cyclone and DJD, whats the deal? Have you two raced yet?
A few of us are still planning on hitting 6th st. over Labor Day weekend, probably come down on Sat.
but CBBB is right around the corner. :D

[djdtpr]

Best excuse for getting sawed off
"I shot off my big mouth on the Hot Boat forums"
Dont forget the best reason for sawing someone off
"cause they shot there big mouth off on the hot boat forums"

[djdtpr]

Cyclone and DJD, whats the deal? Have you two raced yet?
A few of us are still planning on hitting 6th st. over Labor Day weekend, probably come down on Sat.
but CBBB is right around the corner. :D
CS we have only played around with each other nothing real serious,i am still getting used to the new boat.But there has been at least one good match up between us and all i can say is man we ran along ways.I hope to see ya over Labor Day so we can drink a few cold ones and shoot the sh*t.

[cyclone]

no one got kung fooled if that's what you mean. :D

[djdtpr]

no one got kung fooled if that's what you mean. :D
Oh realy Mike!Did you forget about the sea doo that i ran? :eek:

[cyclone]

Oh realy Mike!Did you forget about the sea doo that i ran? :eek:
i must have missed that one. I couldnt see over the island because i was up to my neck in water trying to stay cool. only the budlight in my hand was up high enough to get a view of any hardcore race action.

[Liberator TJ1984]

The intercooler chokes the blower down too much.....
and this one hits home .....I was running restrictor plugs :p

[revndave]

Reason for getting Kung Fooled the boat you run is Blower Dan :D

[Cs19]

CS we have only played around with each other nothing real serious
freakin homos

[Squirtin Thunder]

Oh! do tell Jim! your not gettin off that easy there buddy!lol
weekend boating
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Good and Bad !!!
Saturday, went to Lake Mohave to test the set up. Cruised around, enjoyed, rough water, it sucked. Went to gasoline alley, met up with Dilligaf, stayed for about one minute, as we were leaving the 15 women in his boat wanted to see some tail, so I showed them some tail. Followed him toward Davis Dam, he kind of got away from us because of the rough water. He was still in my eyesight when a Wakeboard boat crossed within ten feet of the bow, had to slow and we got swallowed by a big mother ****ing wave. The water killed the engine, we had about one foot of water in the boat and engine is hydrolocked. Bilge pumps working great and we started paddling, luckily some guys in a 23ft Eliminator "V" saw the splash and came from 1/2 mile away to help, they towed us in to Katherine's and we got the boat loaded on the trailer, everything went smooth. Got home pulled the plugs, pumped all water out of engine, put in new plugs, fired right up. Took it out on Sunday with Roostwear and ran some GPS runs. First run was 73.7, made a small, minute 1-2 degree retard and ran 75.1 mph @ 5000 rpm !!! I feel that once I am done making adjustments today on the carb, I should pick up atleast 2 more.

[djdtpr]

freakin homos
Does it make you feel better knowing that we were thinking of you the whole time? ;)

[SUI-CY-COLE DIMARCO]

best excuse of all time.......well its only a jet,what do you expect... :rolleyes:

[djdtpr]

best excuse of all time.......well its only a jet,what do you expect... :rolleyes:
I love it when a v-drive guy says that after having his a#s handed to him on a plater.Its not our fault they leave so much harder. :supp: