Long Beach Sprint Nationals '05

[rossdbos]

For those not going to the CBBB here's another great event!
THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SPEEDBOAT CLUB
Presents
“2005 LONG BEACH SPRINT NATIONALS BOAT RACE”
‘RACE AGAINST HUNGER’
Benefiting Foothill Unity Center
Saturday & Sunday August 13th & 14th, 2005
Long Beach Marine Stadium
(5255 Paoli Way, Long Beach)
The Southern California Speedboat Club (S.C.S.C.) is proud to present two exciting days of Championship Circle Boat racing, Personal Water Craft racing and Classic “V-Drive” display at the birthplace of powerboat racing on the West Coast- Long Beach Marine Stadium.
Join S.C.S.C. in putting on this prestigious American Power Boat Association sanctioned event. Race fans will be treated to two exciting days watching championship circle boat racing benefiting the FOOTHILL UNITY CENTER, a non-profit, non-denominational organization aiding in hunger relief to those in need in Southern California.
Come and see the big & bad ‘blown’ Grand National Endurance Boats going after a National Championship, the Cracker Boxes will also compete for a National Championship in Round # 4 of their series, the Pro Stocks & Super Stock flatbottoms roaring down the straight away at 115 MPH, Formula Light Tunnel Boats pulling over 5 G’s in the turns, the Personal Watercraft Racers “slicing & dicing” and take a trip back to the yesteryear of boat racing with the Nostalgia Flatbottom and Nostalgia Endurance boats All racing classes will be vying for both Series and APBA National points hoping for their chance at victory at legendary Long Beach Marine Stadium. Also, on display, see some of the best restored classic “V” drive boats in the nation. So put on your sunscreen and soak up the sun while enjoying this spectacle of some of the best boat racing in the country benefiting a truly worthy cause at the Long Beach Marine Stadium. Gates open at 8:00 a.m., Racing starts at 10:00 a.m. adults $10.00, children under 12 free. VIP Parking $5.00 For more information visit us on the web at www.scscracing.com or call Ross Wallach (562) 633-6200.
There are still a few opening for Classic V-drive's to display, if you are interested please contact me for more information.
Thanks,
Ross Wallach, SCSC

[MAXIMUS]

Ahhh I think I am going to go the CBBB this year... ;)

[dossangers]

No SSRA or K'S :confused: :confused: no ME !!!!

[uclahater]

Ross why do you lead people to think SS'rs are coming when they havent even been invited. Why dont you just say Pro Stock?

[rossdbos]

Aah Jim:
Once again just because the SSRA has an event in Marble Falls doesn't necessarily mean that ALL Super Stocks in America will be attending. I spoke with Jeff Brocheuser prior to Burley and let him know of SCSC's intentions and he thought it would a good idea for those SSRA and non-SSRA Super Stocks that weren't planning on running Marble Falls. I was told that there are several Super Stocks (that run the SSRA and some that don't and not nostalgia Flats either) who called and are looking to attend. While I understand that Marble Falls is an SSRA event that doesn't preclude me from letting those Super Stocks that weren't going anyway to attend my event.
Super Stock will be Super Stock and Pro Stocks will be WPRA Pro-Stocks, one is a Series race (WPRA) and the other is just an APBA points race.
Next, Wayne, I am still hopeful, however it is diminishing with each passing day that John Hart and his group of K's can attend Long Beach. John and I have been working hard with insurance (both APBA and IHBA) to make this "dual" sanction a reality. Stay tuned on that one.
Jim, Wayne, etc. good luck with your events and be safe.
Ross Wallach, SCSC ;)

[Jetboatguru]

Aah Jim:
Next, Wayne, I am still hopeful, however it is diminishing with each passing day that John Hart and his group of K's can attend Long Beach. John and I have been working hard with insurance (both APBA and IHBA) to make this "dual" sanction a reality. Stay tuned on that one.
Jim, Wayne, etc. good luck with your events and be safe.
Ross Wallach, SCSC ;)
Ross, no disrespect intended to you, but John Hart does not have a group of K's. We are now a part of the SSRA and run under their banner. We are in no way affiliated with John Hart. He is invited to race with the Ks at the IHBA races.
Tony Scarlata

[ColeTR2]

I have no clue as to the politics involved but for the sake of the sport please bring back high-quality race boats to Parker and Long beach. :frown:

[GN117"Big Dawg"]

Ross, We are really looking forward to the STADIUM RACE! To be with real racers, real freinds and racin' at the "BEACH" - - - THATS JUST SWEET!!! Thanks for all you do!

[rossdbos]

Tony:
I received a call from John approx. 2 + mos. ago asked what I thought about putting the K's back on a Long Beach. He knew the issues confronting me- APBA, Capsules, etc. I told him if he got the Inboard V.P.(Robin Shane) to bite off on it SCSC would put them on. I asked approx. how many he thought would show up, he indicated 6-8. I then asked him to contact APBA's insurer to see if they had a problem with a dual sanction (IHBA/APBA) which they didn't. Apparently the K's affiliated themselves with SSRA during this time. I was unaware that there was any animosity between John and the rest of the K's as he gave me the impression they were all one group. I apologize for "lumping" the K's under "his group". Again, no problem either way. Would SCSC like to see the K's come back, absolutely! I know all too well why they were the "sacrificial lamb" in the whole SS/PS/GN/K tug-o-war inside APBA regarding capsules and I think it sucks considering how many fans enjoy them. Oooh well, live and learn!
Again, Apologies to any K's offended by my "lumping".
Ross Wallach, SCSC

[ColeTR2]

Ross why canÂ’t THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SPEEDBOAT CLUB do their own race series. Why does SCSC have to have APBA, IHBA or SSRA involved?

[dossangers]

K's back at the beach would be the shit!! i guarenty if it happens ill be in the SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :skull: :skull: :skull:

[gnRacer98]

Don't listen to the naysayers Ross, you've done more to advance this sport than anyone else, even if you've stumbled now and again. I spoke with everal SS owners in Burley that said they would not go to Texas because of Long Beach. Looks like all classes should be full.

[rossdbos]

"Ross why canÂ’t THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SPEEDBOAT CLUB do their own race series. Why does SCSC have to have APBA, IHBA or SSRA involved?"
ColeTr2:
APBA is the "parent" organization which SCSC get's the following: insurance at a much better rate (more coverage for a lower premium), a set of national rules that govern competition, safety, etc. and a place to earn a "National points anda National or U.I.M. World Championship". Now SCSC could go out and get their own insurance but the added cost would make it out of reach for the average racer. Add: SCSC could re-write and copyright our own set of rules and re-name all the classes (as would have to be done by virtue of copyright infringement) but it seems an awful lot of money, time and effort when there still are 7-10 viable classes (in our region) of boats that wish to subscribe to APBA rules.
You see most of the racers do this for the love of the sport and competition. They spend their hard earned money doing something that intrinsically makes them happy. It's not that SCSC/RPM is looking for problems, there are enough of them to go around, rather the easiest way to do business is by working with APBA. If you know the ground rules as I have explained above going in you realize which battles to fight.
Now recently, (in the last 6-7 years) several of the classes based in West (SS/PS/Crackers/GN/K/etc.) decided to form themselves into "series" (ie;SSRS now SSRA, WPRA, Crackerbox Racing Series, GNRA, etc.) in an effort to grow their classes, create better competion, highten the visibility,showcase themselves at higher profile events, take advantage of T.V. ( I personally obtained the Speed Channel now on Outdoor Channel shows for these groups) and yes, prize money. As SCSC became an "incubator" for growth in many of these series it seems that occasionally problems erupt, call it "growing pains". So you see SCSC could do it themselves but we would have no racers as the cost would be prohibitive. Next, we, SCSC, look to foster growth within the various series through our premier events (Long Beach, & Bluewater) but we need the support of these groups at our non-premier events (Bakersfield, etc.) when we lose the support we lose money thus putting future event in jeopardy. It's a business (though we are a non-profit) we still rely on the support of the racers to survive.
Last, would SCSC like to have the K's, SSRA, etc. on and pay out prize money to all classes at Long Beach, absolutely but 1.) I don't have a corporate sponsor that is willing to front the money so consequently the classes that are invited to attend help SCSC by helping themselves. I too agree leave politics to the politicians. If you are a racer support your group, show up and support the event otherwise there may not be an event to show up to. For the fans, continue to support the events and sponsors and let them know you want more and appreciate it! Again, for those not going to another great event, CBBB, and wish to come and watch some great racing, Long Beach is going to be great and for a worthy cause to boot!
Ross Wallach, SCSC :cool:

[dmontzsta]

I would like to make it, but CBBB is calling my name.
Hopefully the K's will go out there and put on a show. :D
Tony? Doss? Billy? Jim? :cool:

[dossangers]

Last years race was the shit!! It should be the PREMIER race on the west coast with all CLASS'S running! make it happen ROSS! from what i saw last year ticket sales looked pretty good!! :sqeyes: :sqeyes: :sqeyes:

[Ron Hill]

SCSC runs APBA becasue APBA offers many "ITEMS" that others don't...One big word is QUALITY INSURANCE for the City of Long Beach and Drivers and Officials.
As far as I know the Super Stocks are invited....They will racing for APBA POINTS and A CHANCE to win a National High Point in a chance to be int eh APBA Hall of Champions.
Long Beach Marine Stadium is one of the finest bodies of RACING WATER in the WORLD.......Lake Ming being the finest!!!
Ross, the "Well Oil Team That IS CHAD HILL RACING" will be at Long Beach with our Formula Light.....We plan to beat more than 5 boats at Long Beach...But a 10th with the 15 boats that were at Chowchilla was OK with us!!!
I can assure FLAT BOTTOM FANS that they will see some good FLAT BOTTOM ACTION at Long Beach...Plus a bunch running that 80 MPH deal call nostalgia.....
Ross, you are having a CLASS BOAT SHOW CORRECT???
See you there.... Thanks for PROMOTING the Blue Water Casino 300 Enduro, October 8, 2005... For more info go to www.boatracingfacts.com .

[ColeTR2]

Thanks Ross, I can tell you have an up hill battle and youÂ’re doing it for the love of the sport. I enjoy the boat show! I love seeing all that beautiful hardware there. Maybe some of the boats from the show could do exhibition runs? IÂ’m looking forward to the 300 in Parker.

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

I would like to make it, but CBBB is calling my name.
Hopefully the K's will go out there and put on a show. :D
Tony? Doss? Billy? Jim? :cool:
K boats at the river....middle of summer on a weekend and right smack in the middle of a classic boat bash? D! set down the crack pipe!!!
But I'll see ya there. Leaving thursday morning.
See ya next time Ross, hope it goes well. :cool:
Jerry

[SERIOUS ISSUES]

Is there prize money for this race? also what is the cost to run w/ SCSC (membership, enty fee, APBA mebership)?

[lilrick]

not sure about prize money, but SCSC is $20, APBA is $55 and its $80 a day to race

[dmontzsta]

K boats at the river....middle of summer on a weekend and right smack in the middle of a classic boat bash? D! set down the crack pipe!!!
But I'll see ya there. Leaving thursday morning.
See ya next time Ross, hope it goes well. :cool:
Jerry
yeah, that is a little crazy...Maybe we could clear the river out! :) I will see you up there, I will be there Friday around noonish.

[BILLY.B]

Next, Wayne, I am still hopeful, however it is diminishing with each passing day that John Hart and his group of K's can attend Long Beach. John and I have been working hard with insurance (both APBA and IHBA) to make this "dual" sanction a reality. Stay tuned on that one.
Ross Wallach, SCSC ;) I know that Long Beach has alot heritage, BUT what would make Jr Hart come out of retirement seeing as there is no money pay out and that was his driving force to get the K's back out there with IHBA. It would be great to see the K's back at Long Beach, to bad "POLITICS" always seem to raise it's ugly head and ruin things.
Hey Wayne you better calm down Bro. Remember your an NKRA guy and we guys don't have the balls to run with the real K's. Only quoting a certain K racer on the IHBA circuit, or should I say "use to be racing" . I think you can figure out who this is. :idea: :boxingguy

[the real k-boat king]

I know that Long Beach has alot heritage, BUT what would make Jr Hart come out of retirement seeing as there is no money pay out and that was his driving force to get the K's back out there with IHBA. It would be great to see the K's back at Long Beach, to bad "POLITICS" always seem to raise it's ugly head and ruin things.
Hey Wayne you better calm down Bro. Remember your an NKRA guy and we guys don't have the balls to run with the real K's. Only quoting a certain K racer on the IHBA circuit, or should I say "use to be racing" . I think you can figure out who this is. :idea: :boxingguysure am glad i'am a nkra guy. :burningm:

[the real k-boat king]

Don't listen to the naysayers Ross, you've done more to advance this sport than anyone else, even if you've stumbled now and again. I spoke with everal SS owners in Burley that said they would not go to Texas because of Long Beach. Looks like all classes should be full.i don't know who you talked to but all the ss-ers at burley are going to texas, the ssra has a great thing going, and they have many promoters wanting to pay for our show.

[MAXIMUS]

Ross I must say that with out you & your efforts , this whole sanction would be doomed. Thank you for a thankless job & we will see you at Long Beach! As far as those who won't be attending well... Bye! :)
Ben Marrone/Paul Grichar
GN 305

[MAXIMUS]

i don't know who you talked to but all the ss-ers at burley are going to texas, the ssra has a great thing going, and they have many promoters wanting to pay for our show.
So I guess you won't be there??? :( :(

[uclahater]

Ross I must say that with out you & your efforts , this whole sanction would be doomed. Thank you for a thankless job & we will see you at Long Beach! As far as those who won't be attending well... Bye! :)
Ben Marrone/Paul Grichar
GN 305
Are you going to take her over 60 this time :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

[MAXIMUS]

Are you going to take her over 60 this time :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
Only if we have too! :idea: :eek: :)

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Only if we have too! :idea: :eek: :)
60 should be sufficient to represent "last place"..... again! (in my best dice clay voice) OHHHHH!!!! bada bing!!
...the shore hecklers :( :D :D

[dossangers]

I know that Long Beach has alot heritage, BUT what would make Jr Hart come out of retirement seeing as there is no money pay out and that was his driving force to get the K's back out there with IHBA. It would be great to see the K's back at Long Beach, to bad "POLITICS" always seem to raise it's ugly head and ruin things.
Hey Wayne you better calm down Bro. Remember your an NKRA guy and we guys don't have the balls to run with the real K's. Only quoting a certain K racer on the IHBA circuit, or should I say "use to be racing" . I think you can figure out who this is. :idea: :boxingguy
Some day when i grow ill push the Right pedal DOWN until then im content on just having a SHINEY BOAT! with a K on the side

[MAXIMUS]

60 should be sufficient to represent "last place"..... again! (in my best dice clay voice) OHHHHH!!!! bada bing!!
...the shore hecklers :( :D :D
Well what do you expect with a washed up has been for a driver & a jet boat mechanic... I would say we did better than anticipated! ;) I would expect this year if we could duplicate it again we should be very satisfied! Too bad you won't be there to video it again! :messedup:

[MAXIMUS]

It will be a very uneventful event with out the "NKRA" there to represent the best of the best... :lightsabe I guess the tree & all those swinging from it will have to move on! :D

[the real k-boat king]

Well what do you expect with a washed up has been for a driver & a jet boat mechanic... I would say we did better than anticipated! ;) I would expect this year if we could duplicate it again we should be very satisfied! Too bad you won't be there to video it again! :messedup:jerry would'nt waste his time on videoing something that slow. :eek:

[MAXIMUS]

jerry would'nt waste his time on videoing something that slow. :eek:
DOHHH! Let me get the blade out of my back... :rolleyes:
Brilliant post! Well with some hard work & some steady nut swinging I too could someday rate! :) Until then I guess he will just have to continue videoing you driving in circles at needles... :D Its hard work being somebody ehh... lol ;)

[Jetboatguru]

No need to apologize Ross. I was just making it clear that we are not under any Jr Hart Regime. We are part of the IHBA K class running under the SSRA banner. I have no ill will towards SCSC.
Tony Scarlata

[epidemic]

Ross I must say that with out you & your efforts , this whole sanction would be doomed. Thank you for a thankless job & we will see you at Long Beach! As far as those who won't be attending well... Bye! :)
Ben Marrone/Paul Grichar
GN 305paul grichar who, never heard of him, as far as that goes you ether, and any body who puts there name as boss ross says it all. no real super stocks at long beach or pro stocks, the only fast pro stock on the west coast is the ps 70, i heard it laped the field at burley two years in a row. the other fast pro stocks are on the east coast. no ssra no nkra no long beach for my group. :eek: :eek:

[MAXIMUS]

paul grichar who, never heard of him, as far as that goes you ether, and any body who puts there name as boss ross says it all. no real super stocks at long beach or pro stocks, the only fast pro stock on the west coast is the ps 70, i heard it laped the field at burley two years in a row. the other fast pro stocks are on the east coast. no ssra no nkra no long beach for my group. :eek: :eek:
SO??? :notam:
Was there something you wanted to say? :rolleyes:
You must be swinging from the same tree! :cool:

[MAXIMUS]

paul grichar who, never heard of him, as far as that goes you ether :eek: :eek:
Let me refresh your memory... 1999 chairmen of the KIWANA'S, El Monte chapter??? No??? how about vice pres 2001 of the Saftey Sam traveling nut club??? No??? Runner up at the 1991 4th of july run what you brung potato sack race in downtown Brawley! Still nothing??? Well I guess you just havent been around much then! :messedup:
I am looking forward to Long Beach & I hope there will be a good turn out for the cause! :)