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round2
08-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Hi all,
I am looking for a reliable engine builder around the Oakland, CA. area. I have a 1980 21' cruiser Hallett w/berkeley pump. It is all original. Nothing has been touched on the motor/pump except the distributor/ignition system. I have GPS'd the boat at 54mph. My goal is to run 70 mph. My budget is 4k to 5k. Is this do-able with my budget. I mainly use my boat at Berryessa and the Delta.

Bailey
08-01-2005, 01:18 PM
Morgan's is building my motor know, Great place Tim's a great guy. There in walnut creek ca. 925-939-7346

DeputyDawg
08-01-2005, 01:40 PM
Well, 16mph is a pretty tall order for 4-5 grand in a 21' cruiser. You will probably have to address someother areas of the boat as well. First and foremost is the bottom of the boat good and straight or does it have any hook in it. If it has a lot of hook it will kill performance and eat up a lot of horsepower. Is the pump fresh or is it tired and in need of a rebuild. You will also want to add a diverter if you don't already have one in order to be able to trim the boat properly to free it up some. You most likely will also want to run a droop snoot or even a straight snoot like the one Hi-Tech Performance makes to lift the tail of that big heavy sucker a bit. You should be able to have a decent motor built using your engine with cam, valve train and induction system(carb/intake). Depending on what heads you have there could be some pretty big power gains in that department if you have the little peanut port heads. What engine do you have and what heads are on it?

sleekvino
08-01-2005, 02:52 PM
morgans is over priced go to tri valley machine

round2
08-01-2005, 06:57 PM
My boat does not have a droop snoot or a diverter and the pump probably needs a rebuild too. Do any of these shops sell new engines that have been dyno'd and tuned already? What type of horsepower would i need to obtain 70mph on my cruiser. It sounds like I might have to raise my budjet a lil bit. Has any of you heard of S & S machine in San Leandro? If so, are they good and reasonable? I actually live down the street from this shop and saw it earlier today. I am very new to the hot boat scene and I am so thankful for all tips and advises. Oh I have heads with the oval port.

058
08-01-2005, 07:07 PM
S&S Automotive in San Leandro....good shop and no bullshit. 510-357-9041. Been building and racing Chevys longer than most have been alive. Just don't go there with an additude or they will show you the door.

round2
08-01-2005, 08:53 PM
058- do you mean S & S machine or S & S Automotive because both of these shops are a block from each other. The Automotive shop also has a muffler shop next to it. I asked one of my buddies and he said they are two different shops. The machine shop does engines only and the automotive shop does everything from tune ups, brakes, to full race engines.

Bobbo541
08-01-2005, 08:56 PM
George and Ricky Santos at S&S in San Leandro know there stuff.

LakesOnly
08-01-2005, 09:03 PM
058- do you mean S & S machine or S & S Automotive because both of these shops are a block from each other. The Automotive shop also has a muffler shop next to it. I asked one of my buddies and he said they are two different shops. The machine shop does engines only and the automotive shop does everything from tune ups, brakes, to full race engines.
058 means this place: S & S Automotive & Machine, San Leandro (510) 357-9041
OR
Alternate: Al Hubbard Machine, 21030 Meekland Ave. Hayward. 510-537-1885
LO

round2
08-02-2005, 03:50 PM
I have spoke to Rick and George @ S&S and they seem like good people. Is there such a thing called warranty with machine shops? Rick and George advised me that I would probably need 700 to 800hp to run 70+mph on such a heavy boat (21' hallett). Now that I have a reality check, I am just looking to get my boat on the water with decent power and reliabity. I will be having S&S rebuild my motor and I shall let all of you know how it goes. Also is CP Performance a good shop to take my boat and have my pump rebuilt? Is there a shop that is closer than CP? So sorry for all the questions.

Bailey
08-02-2005, 04:54 PM
Gt boats in suisun can rebuild your pump, there closer.

058
08-02-2005, 05:26 PM
I have spoke to Rick and George @ S&S and they seem like good people. Is there such a thing called warranty with machine shops? Rick and George advised me that I would probably need 700 to 800hp to run 70+mph on such a heavy boat (21' hallett). Now that I have a reality check, I am just looking to get my boat on the water with decent power and reliabity. I will be having S&S rebuild my motor and I shall let all of you know how it goes. Also is CP Performance a good shop to take my boat and have my pump rebuilt? Is there a shop that is closer than CP? So sorry for all the questions.What Lakes said....I had to look at their business card to remember the correct name, locals just call 'em "S&S"... everyone knows who you are talking about, didn't know there was another "S&S Automotive" George, Celia and family are good people, listen to what they tell you and your engine should give you many years of service.

squirt
08-02-2005, 05:44 PM
For your pump work you can call Glen at Pleasure Boat Specialities, He is VERY good and cut his teeth on jets. He is a great guy and won't "sell" you, and will explain anything you want. KZ takes his stuff there when he needs something local.
Here is his info
Pleasure Boat Specialties
2456 Kruse Drive
San Jose, California 95131
Contact : Glen Schuler
Phone : (408) 432-0217
e-mail : grpefrt@aol.com
www :
Good luck, Don

SUI-CY-COLE DIMARCO
08-02-2005, 07:51 PM
daves engine maching in newark
1-510-797-7536
tell them rich with the drag boat sent ya
s&s is good but sicialia will never get my busines.
al hubbard also good talk to wade

Boy Named Sue
08-02-2005, 07:59 PM
daves engine maching in newark
1-510-797-7536
tell them rich sent ya
s&s i good but sicialia will never get my busines.
al hgubbard also nice talk to wade
I wouldn't mention the rich part but I know Sui wouldn't steer you wrong he hooked me up with Al Hubbard on Meekland Ave. one time and I was very happy with the service. Oh and thanks Sui for welding my intake manifold, the truck is in the scrap heap but it still has that pretty bead...
Suuuuuueeeeeey!

058
08-03-2005, 10:32 AM
daves engine maching in newark
1-510-797-7536
tell them rich with the drag boat sent ya
s&s is good but sicialia will never get my busines.
al hubbard also good talk to wadeHey Richie....Celia get the best of ya??? You must have had a 'tude with her.... :D :D :D