27' Hallett or 27' Advantage victory. which one?

[scarabrick2]

he's leaning towards the victory as it's an open bow. How does advantage hold it value? Hallett's are nice but not a whole lot of cockpit room. He's looking for a 26-29' ,Single engine, deep v. open bow,large cockpit for under $40K.
Please give me your input.

[NOTALENT]

who's he.... :idea: as for the value...Halett will definatley hold a better value. and the advantages u can normally find a bit cheaper...does he have a year range at that price???

[RiverOtter]

I didn't know you could get a Hallett for under $40,000 :confused:

[NOTALENT]

I didn't know you could get a Hallett for under $40,000 :confused:
thats why I asked year... :220v: :D

[RiverOtter]

thats why I asked year... :220v: :D
Maybe a 1980 20 footer :D

[scarabrick2]

Hallett 1995 I think ,502 whipple ,closed bow. there asking 45K but there desperate.
He, My brother.
Victory's in socal, boattraderonline.com and I think it's a 99 not sure will find out when my bro wakes up.

[Topock Junkie]

If your looking at a Hallett 27. You probly won't find a good one for under 70k.

[scarabrick2]

Topock Junkie: If your looking at a Hallett 27. You probly won't find a good one for under 70k.
I found a good one and they want 45K . Only problem is it's a closed bow and the room in the cockpit is small. the Boat isn't advertised and the owner live out of country and needs to sell it. If I could get it for $40-45K and re-sell it that would be great but I don't know how popular those closed bow models are.

[RiverOtter]

I would love to have a Hallett 270S Open but, I want nothing older than a 2000 with a 500HPEFI. Just from what I have read the Hallett really holds it's value. Seems strange to me because they still use lots of wood while others have switched to molded liners and less wood (I still want one though :D ).

[Havasu_Dreamin]

I didn't know you could get a Hallett for under $40,000 :confused:
Used, but not new. A new Hallett 270 with a 525 is ~$107k before options. Damn, when we were looking at them in late 2003 the same package was ~$92k I think before options.

[RiverOtter]

Used, but not new. A new Hallett 270 with a 525 is ~$107k before options. Damn, when we were looking at them in late 2003 the same package was ~$92k I think before options.
How much do they come off sticker? Do they still have the rebate and employee pricing? :D

[Topock Junkie]

Topock Junkie: If your looking at a Hallett 27. You probly won't find a good one for under 70k.
I found a good one and they want 45K . Only problem is it's a closed bow and the room in the cockpit is small. the Boat isn't advertised and the owner live out of country and needs to sell it. If I could get it for $40-45K and re-sell it that would be great but I don't know how popular those closed bow models are.
If thats the deal. I would jump on it.

[scarabrick2]

Any Advantage 27 VICTORY input?

[Topock Junkie]

How much do they come off sticker? Do they still have the rebate and employee pricing? :D
If you ask for a deal they add little to the price. J/K

[C-2]

How many hours on it?
My 95 Hallett has 250 hours.....some people rattle off 100 in one season! My boat has been maintained very well and is in better shape than some of my friends 2002-2003 boats.
If it has low hours and clean - then it's a steal.
Th whipple on 27 with an older Bravo - might not be good news.

[NOTALENT]

The only thing I dont like about the advantages...is that they look like a production line boat...not custom. and most of the graphics are eeshhh...but from the few I have ridden in mainly WYRD's...they are nice boats...His is one of the only ones I like... :D

[Havasu_Dreamin]

My 95 Hallett has 250 hours.....some people rattle off 100 in one season!
Not to hi-jack the thread, but we've got 140 hours in just over 18 months since taking delivery. How ya doin Craig?

[nextel4u]

ADVANTAGE 1995 Citation - 23 1/2'. Perfect cond. One of a kind! Low hrs. 454 Bravo One, Silent Choice exhaust. 1000 watt stereo sys. New custom canvas cover, with trailer. $25K/OBO. 415-999-9915
Not a 27, but just thought I would pass it on.

[scarabrick2]

ADVANTAGE 1995 Citation - 23 1/2'. Perfect cond. One of a kind! Low hrs. 454 Bravo One, Silent Choice exhaust. 1000 watt stereo sys. New custom canvas cover, with trailer. $25K/OBO. 415-999-9915
Not a 27, but just thought I would pass it on.
I wonder why a guy from 415 BAy area I think is advertising down here in Vegas?
Is a 23.5 what they call a 25 citation?

[RiverOtter]

If you ask for a deal they add little to the price. J/K
LMAO! That's about what I've heard :cool:

[scarabrick2]

I wonder why a guy from 415 BAy area I think is advertising down here in Vegas?
Is a 23.5 what they call a 25 citation?
Should of looked it up first :)

[Focker]

1998 Advantage 27' Victory Closed Bow
502 Whipple Charged, 30 hours on new motor, Hydraulic steering, Tandem Trailer, Loaded and ready.....$ 53,000.2003 Advantage 28 Victory Bowrider
2003 Advantage 28 Victory Bowrider 496 Mag HO Very Clean Low Hrs Bimini Cover Transom Shower $79,000
1997 Advantage 25 Bowrider
1997 Advantage 25 Citation Bowrider Custom Blosdale Motor Very Clean and loaded with Extras $49,900.
from the advantage web site online inventory

[scarabrick2]

Thanks for the info. I did see those on line but they're out of his price range.
Anybody own a Victory open bow and want to share there info?

[LHC30Victory]

We have a 30 and love it! We were in the market for a boat with lots of interior room and both the 27 and 30 Advantage are at the top of ALL the boats we looked at. The quality is good, but not a Howard or DCB.
When we were looking at Hallett, I was really turned off by Mr. Barron's attitude. Something like " if you want one of my boats, dont ask questions but give me the money"
Because of that (actually two) encounter(s), I will NEVER buy or recommend a Hallett. Yeah, I guess I am still pissed off at him :mad:
Shaken's 27 victory runs good, just dont put that much HP to a single drive :hammer2:
I will be at the Zoo the next two weekends if ya want a ride.

[Focker]

We have a 30 and love it! We were in the market for a boat with lots of interior room and both the 27 and 30 Advantage are at the top of ALL the boats we looked at. The quality is good, but not a Howard or DCB.
When we were looking at Hallett, I was really turned off by Mr. Barron's attitude. Something like " if you want one of my boats, dont ask questions but give me the money"
Because of that (actually two) encounter(s), I will NEVER buy or recommend a Hallett. Yeah, I guess I am still pissed off at him :mad:
Shaken's 27 victory runs good, just dont put that much HP to a single drive :hammer2:
I will be at the Zoo the next two weekends if ya want a ride.
ABSOLUTELY FOR ROOM AND SPACE YOU CANT BEAT AN ADVANTAGE

[NuckinFutz]

I own a Advantage 25' mid cabin open bow. It is very similar to the 27 Victory. I can't comment on the 27 Hallett as I've never been in one, but I do like the Advantage. The ride is very good in the Havasu, Powell afternoon waters. With your price range I don't think it matters which is the most "custom" since your going to be buying used, you aren't customizing anything from scratch. I've road in an older "mid 90's" 27 that was running a 600 horse engine that performed respectable. The owner had purchased it from a previous owner that had over 1000 horses under the hatch supposedly and the boat had been run hard, but it still was solid and showed no signs of structural weakness. I'd take a test run in the boats you want and see which suits you.

[scarabrick2]

Well I talked to my bro and he said the Hallett is a 1999 and the Advantage is a 1995. Both to be had around 40k. Advantage maybe a little less. He's going to look at the Hallett this week and see if it will work. I with we had a Victory 27 around these parts for he and his wife to look at. All of us are going out of town this weekend but maybe next weekend he'll head to Havasu and take a look.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

ABSOLUTELY FOR ROOM AND SPACE YOU CANT BEAT AN ADVANTAGE
I'll put the cockpit of our 29 Essex up against any like-sized boat. It is freakin HUGE! We've had 10 people on the boat, with 8 in the cockpit with zero problems and room to spare.

[prozach]

I would recommend the Hallett. Yes, they have attitude and I hate that, but they build a great boat that will last forever. I think the main thing with Hallett is the resale value. If you find one priced right you can enjoy it for several years and sell it for the same price you paid.

[C-2]

The nice thing with a Hallett is ten years later, the boat still looks and rides like new (unless you decide to flatten a cam lobe). I've seen many, many boats falling apart (literally) after a couple of seasons.
C2<--- about three weeks away from a 550-600hp motor, Teague platinum drive and hyd steering. Can't wait!!!

[C-2]

Not to hi-jack the thread, but we've got 140 hours in just over 18 months since taking delivery. How ya doin Craig?
Good, getting close to the water again.
You going out this weekend? I'll be out there with my neighbor in his 23 Caliber 1.

[Big Warlock]

Hallett

[Beer-30]

Looking for a 27+ footer in the $40K range would be Cheetah. I was looking at a 2001 29 Cheetah w/ 496 and Procharger, open bow for $41K.
Search on "cheetah" in boat trader online.
And, preferrably a boat in AZ or NV. No sales tax saves a few thous. Ca boat will have sales tax.

[life's a river]

I have an 01 27 Victory. 65 mph with a 500 horse power motor. Not as fast as the Hallett but it has a lot of room under the mid cabin and it rides real nice. You will pay more for a new Hallett but the resale is better. We like our Advantage. If you want speed and have the money look at the Howard 28 Bullett. Awesome boat
LAR

[scarabrick2]

ttt

[MUDXPRT]

I have owned alot of boats (2-25' Warlock's, 1-26' Sanger, 3-Halletts,21' Vector,24' walk thru,270 open bow) I have the 270 open bow now with a Pfaff motor 562 hp, non stepped bottom and it is by far my favorite, runs great, built solid, couldn't ask for a nicer boat. I feel there is alot of room in the cockpit area and spacious open bow. The cuddy cabin is also great for the kids to get out of the sun. I don't see myself getting anything other than a Hallett unless it's a deck boat then it would be Conquest. Just my .02

[4day!!]

I own a Advantage 25' mid cabin open bow. It is very similar to the 27 Victory. I can't comment on the 27 Hallett as I've never been in one, but I do like the Advantage. The ride is very good in the Havasu, Powell afternoon waters. With your price range I don't think it matters which is the most "custom" since your going to be buying used, you aren't customizing anything from scratch. I've road in an older "mid 90's" 27 that was running a 600 horse engine that performed respectable. The owner had purchased it from a previous owner that had over 1000 horses under the hatch supposedly and the boat had been run hard, but it still was solid and showed no signs of structural weakness. I'd take a test run in the boats you want and see which suits you.
NF, did you take delivery of your boat around March/April 04? If so i remeber seeing that boat in the showroomwhen i took delivery last year. I think it was built for the showroom if i am not mistaken. Damn i wish i would have grabbed that on instead. Beautiful boat...

[NuckinFutz]

My boat was built for the LA boats show or so I was told. It was on the showroom floor when I first saw it. I started the purchase process in May and picked it up in July. My wife saw it and fell in love with it, so blame it on her I guess. It's been a good boat.

[4day!!]

My boat was built for the LA boats show or so I was told. It was on the showroom floor when I first saw it. I started the purchase process in May and picked it up in July. My wife saw it and fell in love with it, so blame it on her I guess. It's been a good boat.That would be the one..What motor, prop and top speed are you getting?

[28 Victory]

I had a 28' Victory closed bow. Just had open bow conversion done. A shop in Havasu called Tammys upholstry did it and it looks killer. Price wasn't bad and per Advantage cheaper than buying a new one. Mine is an 04 but not for sale. They have done a few differnt kinds of boats Advantage, Eliminator and more. Check them out.

[scarabrick2]

I had a 28' Victory closed bow. Just had open bow conversion done. A shop in Havasu called Tammys upholstry did it and it looks killer. Price wasn't bad and per Advantage cheaper than buying a new one. Mine is an 04 but not for sale. They have done a few differnt kinds of boats Advantage, Eliminator and more. Check them out.
Who cut the opening? Did they have to brace the deck lid and sides any? This looks like a good idea as long as the boat is structurly(sp) capabile.

[KoolPop]

he's leaning towards the victory as it's an open bow. How does advantage hold it value? Hallett's are nice but not a whole lot of cockpit room. He's looking for a 26-29' ,Single engine, deep v. open bow,large cockpit for under $40K.
Please give me your input.
He better start looking for a pretty used one!

[NuckinFutz]

That would be the one..What motor, prop and top speed are you getting?
I put the 496HO under the hatch. I switch back and forth between a 22 pitch at Powell on occasion and the 24 pitch Bravo 1 for Havasu and most the time at Powell. Best I've seen is 66 at Parker/Havasu with 64 pretty constant. At Powell I'm running 62 tops. I've verified the speeds with GPS. I don't see alot of top end speed difference between the two props at Powell, just a change in top end RPM. I like the mid range on the 24 better at both lakes. I've pulled the turbulators from the exhaust as well as some other plastic baffles, engine sound changed, but didn't see any difference in performance unlike some others that gained top end. The metal baffles rattle much less now, which is a good thing. What are you running for motor, prop and top speed?

[28 Victory]

Who cut the opening? Did they have to brace the deck lid and sides any? This looks like a good idea as long as the boat is structurly(sp) capabile.
They do it all on the permisis. They removed the old interior, added another bulkhead, then cut the bow after new bulkhead added. They make a one piece frame and then drop it in. It turns out nice and looks as good as if Advantage did it. Jim at Tammys does it all in house and structualy it seems fine. I've used it about five times since done and took it out in heavy chop and no stress cracks or any sign of cracking.

[SHAKEN Not Stirred]

They are both great boats.....
The fit & finish of the Hallett is second to none....
The Hallett is faster with the same power....
The Advantage is a overall bigger boat.....we'll call it an SUV....
Deeper freeboard......Larger mid-cuddy, 6 adults can sit inside....
Sliding front door into the bow.....Stops the wind......Great for kids..
Personally.....I like the overall look of the Advantage......
You can't go wrong with either.......
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1780SC006041.JPG
:smile:

[SHAKEN Not Stirred]

I have the 270 open bow now with a Pfaff motor 562 hp, non stepped bottom and it is by far my favorite, runs great, built solid, couldn't ask for a nicer boat.
Wanna' RACE !!!!!.......
Hehe!!! :D
Later,
CJG

[sleekcraft137]

I've delt with Hallett in the past. I was one step away from kicking Jerry Baron's ass!! His dad Nick(owner) is ok but Jerry sucks. Nice boats..... they just have a very dishonest shop

[greenkorn]

I hear a lot of "bad attitude" stories about hallett, what is with that? Can some of you break down the bad experiences you have had with them? From what I know, they have Jerry as the sales manager and Chris as a sales person as well. Does everyone have to deal with this Jerry guy in order to buy a boat from them? Break it down for us.

[nextel4u]

I see the Baron's all the time up here at Lake Mead and they are super cool to hang out with. Great Boats and Great People!

[Creator]

We owned a Hallett back in the early 90's, and both Jerry and Nick were cool, even after selling the Hallett and going with a Lavey Jerry still talks to us at the boat shows and asks how we are doing and so on, Been a pretty cool guy to us.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Hallett makes a GREAT boat! Definitely near the top of the custom market. However, they can be, or at least were, difficult to deal with. When we were looking in 2000 the salesman did not want to give me the time of day, like we did not matter at all. Love their boats, but we ended up going with another builder where we felt more like part of the family, but that is not important to everyone.

[big crapolla]

Hallett makes a great boat. I'm on my second one. The draw attention every time I'm out. Great resale value. After 5 years, mine is worth what I paid for it.
They have a philosophy of "whatever you want" with no sales pressure, so that sometimes gives the impression of not caring. Jerry just waits for you to tell him what you want.
They are the best at taking care of the customer, even if you bought one of their boats second hand.
When it was time to order my 27', Jerry gave me a list of 4 potential buyers of my 24' and before I could call them, The first one called me, looked at it once, and wrote the check for almost what I paid 4 years earlier.
If you don't like Jerry or Nick, ask for Chris...he's a great kid.
My .02

[prozach]

I just finished rebuilding a 1996 Hallett deck and the boat looks and rides like new. Hallett did some of the repairs and it was a battle to deal with them. The only person to talk to is Chris. He is the only one there who seems to care about the customer. Everytime I walk in there Jerry has his feet up on the desk not doing a thing.
Personally, I would put up with them again because they do build a great boat and the resale is excellent.

[big crapolla]

You can also deal with Jim Frisbee. He's very customer service oriented.

[scarabrick2]

My bro just bought the Hallett!!!! Took it out for a test ride today and it runs like a champ, 70 mph (trim still left)1/2 fuel, 6 pound boost and 4 guys over 250. Found out after looking it over it has IMCO full power steering,sea straner,whipple,bravo shop outdrive upgrade,gps speedo,lorance gps/nav, two wash downs,electric shifter and no expence spared. We stoled the boat at a whopping $45K OUT THE DOOR. trailer does need new tires but it even has the onboard charger for the batteries to be charged while towing. Oh yah it has a inverter/shore power and a 12 v fridge. Well have fun on Mead this weekend.
Rick
co-pilot

[Beer-30]

Good, sounds like it worked out for the best. Congrats. $45 wouldn't have got him crap in the brand-new world.