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Sportin' Wood
08-25-2005, 03:15 PM
WRX or EVO VIII?
Mitsubishi is giving away free money, and my partner and I started talking about how cheap they are. We know nothing about the little ricer cars. Which one is faster?

Sleek-Jet
08-25-2005, 03:18 PM
Are you getting the neon ground effects???
Don't forget the 3 story wing... you need all that downforce. :D
oh oh oh... and the 5 point harness that isn't tied to anything. :devil:

1stepcloser
08-25-2005, 03:24 PM
WRX or EVO VIII?
Mitsubishi is giving away free money, and my partner and I started talking about how cheap they are. We know nothing about the little ricer cars. Which one is faster?
The WRX would be my choice.
But I've never driven either of them, I just like the way the WRX sounds, and I really dont like Mitsu's.

Goodtime$
08-25-2005, 03:26 PM
the WRX sti vs. The EVO is prob a better comparison...one is a boxer motor, the other is an inline 4....they both have cheap interiors.

Woodster
08-25-2005, 03:31 PM
The mitsubishi flat out hauls ass..My buddy has one. He said 300hp all wheel drive. Go test drive one

Sportin' Wood
08-25-2005, 03:33 PM
Are you getting the neon ground effects???
Don't forget the 3 story wing... you need all that downforce. :D
oh oh oh... and the 5 point harness that isn't tied to anything. :devil:
No more like some dirt tires, and some Hella's :D

Sleek-Jet
08-25-2005, 03:35 PM
No more like some dirt tires, and some Hella's :D
I knew you weren't going to go ricer on us...
I always like the Subi AWD.... I've tried to kill a few in my time and thusfar been unsuccesfull... :D

dmontzsta
08-25-2005, 03:43 PM
I have been called a ricer a few times. :D
They are pretty close, but I have seen alot more powerful WRXs than EVOs. I have seen several comparissons putting them against eachother and they are CLOSE!
I would test drive them both, me personally I would go with the WRX hands down, the boxer engine is nice.

MagicMtnDan
08-25-2005, 03:54 PM
Read this: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?print_page=y&section_id=3&article_id=592&page_number=1
On paper, the WRX STi is the hands-down winner. At 14.5 psi of boost, its 2.5-liter turbocharged flat-4 produces a remarkable 300 bhp at 6000 rpm and 300 lb.-ft of torque at 4000. And there's more to this engine than a displacement increase; some bits and pieces from the WRC car made their way into the street model. Among them are variable valve timing, a larger intercooler (30 percent larger than in the Impreza WRX), a manually operated intercooler water spray, hollow sodium-filled exhaust valves and a new, freer-flowing exhaust system. Also of note is a close-ratio 6-speed gearbox that ends up playing a vital role in the WRX STi's performance data. More on this later.
At 19.0 psi of boost, Mitsubishi's 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4 has somewhat less output with 271 bhp coming at 6500 rpm and 273 lb.-ft. of torque at 3500. Like the WRX STi, the Evo has many technological features found on its former WRC car — Mitsubishi pulled out of WRC this season, promising to come back next year. These include hollow camshafts, a custom-designed turbine nozzle and an intercooler water spray. The Evo's twincam powerplant comes mated to a 5-speed manual gearbox.
On paper the Subaru holds the edge; however, at the track, the Evo outran the WRX STi from zero to 60 mph. Both cars recorded smoldering 0-60-mph times — on a par with some European exotics — with the Evo clocking 4.8 seconds (better than in the last test by 0.3 sec. due to a change of surface) and the WRX STi at 4.9. Why was the more powerful Subaru slower? Because the Subaru's 6-speed gearbox has significantly closer ratios, a 2-3 shift is necessary before reaching 60 mph, while in the Mitsu, you can hold 2nd gear past the 60-mph mark. And a 2-3 upshift, no matter how quickly performed, will result in three-tenths to a half-second of extra time. To the quarter mile, the WRX STi catches the Evo and ultimately passes it by a small margin, 13.3 sec. to 13.4.
Conclusions
The final count tells the tale. The Mitsubishi and the Subaru took away two categories each, with one tie. And the two categories were decided by the slimmest of margins. The Subaru Impreza WRX STi was the better car on the open road, and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution performed better on the racetrack. Both registered virtually identical test numbers, blowing away cars costing thousands of dollars more. In our ratings system, the Evo came away the winner by a margin of 0.3 percent. But you can't go wrong with either car. The arrival of the Evo and WRX STi in the U.S. is a wonderful thing for enthusiasts, and it has all the makings of a beautiful rivalry.

JB in so cal
08-25-2005, 03:56 PM
Are you getting the neon ground effects???
Don't forget the 3 story wing... you need all that downforce. :D
oh oh oh... and the 5 point harness that isn't tied to anything. :devil:
coffee can exhaust

Cole Trickle
08-25-2005, 04:27 PM
This is stock for stock....
In a staright like the WRX Sti will slowly walk away from the Evo.
In the corners or at the road course track there is nothing on the market that cost's less than a 150K that will keep up with an Evo. (Think street legal race car)
The Sti is more comfortable as a daily driver because of the susspension set up on the Evo.(Think stiff)
Both are fun and hardly rice.........
<------- would buy the Evo

djunkie
08-25-2005, 04:32 PM
Evo MR edition. My buddy bought one. Very fast car.

Boozer
08-25-2005, 05:51 PM
EVO hands down.
I've built a lot of import tuners and my favorites have always been DSM's and Mitsubishi's. The EVO is BUILT to be tuned. The EVO is capable of 11's on stock turbo and intercooler. Upgrading it is easy and thanks to the DSM guys there's an entire internet community dedicated to DSM and EVO performance.
Take a look at the WRX and check out the set up on the boxer motor. The turbo is not as capable as the stock turbo on the EVO and requires that you relocate the intercooler to accomadate a bigger turbo.
I've worked on both cars and I'll take the EVO any day.

Kim Hanson
08-25-2005, 05:59 PM
coffee can exhaust
Those are called " Fart-Cans ", ask Donald :p .........( . )( . )........

KACHINA KEN
08-25-2005, 06:04 PM
They all look like shopping carts.

MagicMtnDan
08-25-2005, 06:06 PM
This is stock for stock....
In the corners or at the road course track there is nothing on the market that cost's less than a 150K that will keep up with an Evo. (Think street legal race car)
If you're talking stock Evo, that's something that I have to call BS on.

Slib77
08-25-2005, 06:46 PM
Check these guys out. www.perrinperformance.com
Go with the Subaru. The thing is bullet proof. Look at how many races the WRC car won. They could not even keep the Mitsu together to finish the season. The Subaru has a proven track I mean rally heritage. Plus you can always tap into more power from the boxer motor. Another nice thing is the driver controlled center diff. Both these cars are mean.

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 07:37 AM
If you're talking stock Evo, that's something that I have to call BS on.
You would have to drive one to understand.
If you ever et a chance do a internet search of the British TV show "Top Gear" and see if you can find the episode where they race the Evo against the Lambo. :) The Murcielago spun out trying to get away from the Evo.
They also track tested it and it was in the top 5 I believe right below the Porshe GT,Ferrari Enzo,Mclaren F1.
If I was looking for a semi cheap car to go road racing in the Evo would be my choice.

MagicMtnDan
08-31-2005, 07:41 AM
2006 Mitsubishi Evo IX
The first time I drove an Evo was about two years ago just before I moved to the U.S. In Europe, the Evo is held in near Ferrari-like esteem and garnishes respect and admiration wherever it roams. It's a car that suits Europe's challenging driving conditions absolutely perfectly-not surprising given that each Evo was developed to comply with FIA regulations that specify a certain number of street cars must be produced before a carmaker can go rallying.
I was absolutely blown away by it. The Evo and I simply connected. There was a real chemistry between us but, alas, our romance was fleeting and we had to part ways after only a few days.
Two years of gorging on rear-drive V-8 muscle and the Evo and I meet again. I'm nervous. Will the chemistry still be there? Has my delicate European palette been sullied by the smoky taste of slow-cooked tires roasted over a V-8 spit coated in tail-happy sauce? Am I still able to appreciate its finesse or, worse yet, will it prove to be a silly irrelevance in a country with so much more space than an Evo needs to look its best?
Working it out
While I've been getting flabby, the Evo has been working out and looks better than ever in its new IX guise. The new front bumper exposes more intercooler cleavage than before, which is never a bad thing, while the front and rear light clusters are tinted and… erm… that's about it. The rear carbon-fiber wing is hollow now and there are new Enkei wheels on the RS and straight-up Evolution models and that's all she wrote on the styling front. Japanese and European models get a sexy new rear bumper, too, with a built in air diffuser but U.S. cars won't get it for some reason. It's still a great looker, though, bristling with raw aggression and seething intent.
There's new muscle, too. Thanks to the addition of variable valve timing on the intake camshaft of the 2.0-liter intercooled and turbocharged four-cylinder engine, as well as a new turbocharger compressor housing and improved muffler, the Evo IX now pumps out a healthy 286 hp at 6500 rpm, an increase of 15 hp. More significantly, there's now 289 lb-ft of torque at 3500 rpm, which makes the Evo considerably more driveable on a day-to-day basis as well as making the car more forgiving of poor gear choices. And Mitsubishi has even made choosing the wrong gear a little more difficult by revising the ratios on the five-speed gearboxes for better acceleration. Mitsubishi doesn't talk about how fast it is probably because that insights owners to ripping the drivetrain apart doing pointless standing starts, which would also explain the 5500-rpm rev limiter on the car when its stationary, but even with the electronic nannies we estimate that the 0-60 mph time to be around four-and-a-half seconds and top speed is more than 150 mph on the MR model.
The Evo's got more brawn than ever and it's a little cleverer, too. Now all Evolution IX models use an electronically-controlled, multi-plate center differential that can be adjusted depending on the road conditions (snow, gravel, tarmac). It constantly tweaks the front/rear torque bias based on a constant stream of data regarding steering wheel angle, throttle opening, wheel speeds and longitudinal and lateral movements of the vehicle, to keep you between the green bits and on all four wheels. The open front differential of the old Evo has been ditched in favor of a new helical limited-slip differential - the difference being that while on open diff sends torque to the wheel with the least grip, the helical LSD channels torque to the wheel with the most grip. As a result, you can now get on the power earlier in a corner because instead of lighting up the unloaded inner tire, the outer wheel can now bite into the asphalt sooner and get you rocketing to the next corner even faster. The rear axle keeps its tough, plate-style 1.5-way mechanical LSD and the ABS system has been recalibrated so it doesn't intervene as aggressively as before. As with every evolution of the Evolution, the changes are subtle but effective. More about that later.
Triple threat
Three models are available in the U.S. and all share the same powerplant, the same Brembo brakes (four-caliper front and two-caliper rear), the same basic bodywork and the same drab interior fittings. The RS is the track specialist, with an aluminum roof and thin-metal trunk lid and it also sheds its power windows, painted mirrors and door handles, rear wing, stereo, remote locking, aluminum pedals, map lamps and intermittent wipers in the name of weight, performance and cost. It forfeits its ABS and EBD, too, thought the turbo gauge cluster is standard and it keeps its air-conditioning unit also.
The Evolution MR also gets the aluminum roof panel but has its own special Bilstein monotube shocks, lightweight 17-inch BBS alloy wheels, a more sophisticated hydraulic central differential, a six-speed transmission, Xenon lights and a Vortex generator. The mid-line IX models has the same mechanical set-up as the RS but keeps the deleted items listed above with the exception of the turbo gauges, aluminum roof and lightweight trunk lid. The RS, IX and MR models should be priced at $29,000, $32,000 and $37,000 respectively which means for the price of a drab family sedan you can have genuine, super-car eating uber-performance while sacrificing none of the practicality.
So what makes the Evo and me sizzle like Brad 'n' Angelina? Well, just take the engine, which now delivers its punch in a more linear and less laggy fashion, coming on full boost earlier propelling you forward at an alarming rate thanks to excellent traction and savage torque. The gearbox is monumental - slick and lightweight with a perfect gate whether it's the five or the six-speed box. Those Brembo brakes haul the car down from silly speeds repeatedly on the track with no sign of fade or sogginess. The pedal requires more of a shove than I remember on the European models I last drove so heel-toeing isn't something you can do easily if you're really spanking it hard, though these cars have been around the track a few times so might be a little tired. Fortunately, the engine and transmission are quite happy to slot into gear smoothly even if you can't blip the throttle and no matter how brutal you treat the transmission it never complains or threatens to blow up.
Brilliant positioning
The driving position is another jaw-droppingly brilliant feature of the car. I'm only six feet tall but with a helmet on I find it difficult to fit in most other cars without severely compromising my seating position. In the Evo, I'm sitting upright, with my legs out straight and my hands slightly bent at the elbows, just where I want to be. The standard Recaros hold me in place so well I'm not really aware of the 0.98 of lateral G I'm able to generate until something flies across the car and explodes against a door and even the size and thickness of the Momo steering is perfectly calibrated for my sweaty, tingly palms.
But what really sets the Evo IX apart is the way it goes around corners. In tight bends, where the old car would understeer and spin its power away, the front end of the new Evo grips so much earlier and it can even be provoked into power oversteer if you're aggressive enough and ballsy enough with the throttle and steering. You'll have to fight some pretty intense torque steer to make it happen but once you get used to unwinding the steering lock yourself you can perform all kinds of crowd-pleasing slides in roundabouts and tight radius corners. The trick diffs are noticeable at higher speeds, too, allowing you to pitch the car more sideways than before and hold it there for as long as your skill and available tarmac allows. Throttle adjustments can be used to rotate the car on an invisible axis making the Evo incredibly adjustable and intuitive on the limit.
In simple terms, all the feel and feedback of the VIII is preserved in the new model but thanks to some small improvements here and it's slightly more chuckable, fractionally faster through corners and a wee bit more amusing than it was before… which is saying something. I think the Evo IX is more fun than just about any other car on sale in America today and every bit as home on American highways and racetracks as it is across the pond. The passion between us still exists even if our reunion was all-too-short. Until next time, mio amore!
Source: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sports_Convertibles/2006_Mitsubishi_Evo_IX.S184.A9146.html
2006 Mitsubishi Evolution IX
Base price: $29,000 (est.)
Engine: 2.0-liter in-line four; 286 hp, 289 lb-ft
Drivetrain: Six-speed manual transmission, all-wheel drive
Length x width x height: 178.5 x 69.7 x 57.1 in
Wheelbase: 103.3 in
Curb weight: 3263 lb
EPA (city/hwy): 18/26 mpg
Safety equipment: Dual front airbags, anti-lock brakes, electronic brake distribution, fog lamps
Major standard equipment: Air conditioning, keyless entry, HID headlamps, rear defroster, tilt steering wheel, six-speaker CD audio, aluminum sport pedals and shift knob, Recaro front sport seats, MOMO steering wheel, BBS forged aluminum wheels, W-rated tires
Warranty: Three years/36,000 miles; five years/60,000 miles powertrain
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Drift
08-31-2005, 07:44 AM
I was watching a TV show where they had a Race Car Driver in a Lambo Murcielago and a Skilled but non professional driver in an EVO 8 and around the track the EVO driver was tailing the Lambo so hard that he forced the Lambo to make a mistake leading to a spin. Take into consideration that both cars were 4WD too. I like the Subby's looks & Interior, but for canyon runs I would have to go with the EVO.

MagicMtnDan
08-31-2005, 07:47 AM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=105130#25

Dave C
08-31-2005, 07:54 AM
those are both great road racing cars in the tight turns like in and around the mountains but they will both get left on the straight aways....
A car (there are a few) with slightly less handling but more braking and accelaration will beat them on a road course, especially with long straight aways. I've seen it a couple of times.
but for the $ you sure can't beat em even if they are egg-beaters!
I would get one if they weren't so small.
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR EDITION
Vehicle type: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
Estimated price as tested: $35,000 (estimated base price: $35,000)
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, iron block and aluminum head, port fuel injection
Displacement: 122 cu in, 1999cc
Power (SAE net): 276 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 286 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 103.3 in
Length/width/height: 178.5/69.7/57.1 in
Curb weight: 3300 lb
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 24.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.4 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.4 sec @ 104 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 152 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 158 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 18 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 17 mpg
__________________________________________
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
This is a rally-bred sedan developed by Subaru’s rally championship partner, Subaru Tecnica International (STi). Under the hood is a turbocharged, 2.5-liter flat-four that cranks out 300 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque and distributes it to all four wheels via a six-speed manual transmission. This combination is good for a 0-to-60 time of 4.6 seconds and a quarter-mile mark of 13.2 seconds at 103 mph, four 10ths quicker in both than the V-8–powered Audi S4. And a tricked-up suspension and Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires give it 0.90 g worth of grip on the skidpad. With a large hood scoop, a dual-plane rear spoiler, and high-intensity-discharge headlamps, there’s little doubt about this car’s purpose. And for a price just north of 32 grand, this is one of the best bargain performance packages on the market.
Base price: $32,870
Vehicle type: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive; 4-door 5-passenger sedan
Interior volume, F/R/cargo (cu ft) 51/37/11
Wheelbase 100.0 in
Length/width/height 173.8/68.5/56.3 in
Turning circle 35.4 ft
Curb weight 3298 lb
EPA city/hwy mpg 18/24
Fuel-tank capacity/range 15.9 gal/286 mi
Passive restraints driver and passenger front and side airbags
POWERTRAIN
turbocharged and intercooled 2.5-liter DOHC 16-valve flat-4, 300 hp, 300 lb-ft; 6-sp man
SUSPENSION
F ind, struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar
R ind, struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar
BRAKES
F/R vented disc/vented disc
ABS standard

MagicMtnDan
08-31-2005, 07:56 AM
those are both great road racing cars in the tight turns but they will both get left on the straight aways....
A car (there are a few) with slightly less handling but more braking, accelaration will beat them on a road course.
They're great for the money but I'd rather have a rear wheel driver performance car like a Vette, 911, Boxster S, Cayman S, Viper, even an Elise. But they're great performance bargains.

Drift
08-31-2005, 07:57 AM
You would have to drive one to understand.
If you ever et a chance do a internet search of the British TV show "Top Gear" and see if you can find the episode where they race the Evo against the Lambo. :) The Murcielago spun out trying to get away from the Evo.
They also track tested it and it was in the top 5 I believe right below the Porshe GT,Ferrari Enzo,Mclaren F1.
If I was looking for a semi cheap car to go road racing in the Evo would be my choice.
YEP what he said....
Carrera GT
Enzo
F1
Ariel AXOM? SP
Mitsu EVO 8.
It was an amazing show, there was footage where the guy was doing power slides in the EVO down this runway and the camera pans in an he only has 1 finger on the steering wheel. :jawdrop:
I may be wrong but I thingk that it has a teletemetrtic suspension/braking system.

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:02 AM
YEP what he said....
Carrera GT
Enzo
F1
Ariel AXOM? SP
Mitsu EVO 8.
It was an amazing show, there was footage where the guy was doing power slides in the EVO down this runway and the camera pans in an he only has 1 finger on the steering wheel. :jawdrop:
I may be wrong but I thingk that it has a teletemetrtic suspension/braking system.
That show was sweet!!!
Gotta love the Stig....
Cracked me up when they did a 6 gear race from 40mph against a 100hp pugeot.

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:06 AM
They're great for the money but I'd rather have a rear wheel driver performance car like a Vette, 911, Boxster S, Cayman S, Viper, even an Elise. But they're great performance bargains.
I agree with you but almost al of those cars listed wil loose to a Evo around a short road course.Big motor cars would need a pretty long straight to get past them.
I am quite partial to V8 power :p
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Debbolas
08-31-2005, 08:10 AM
Hi Jeff!! :rollside:

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:13 AM
How about this, only $45,000 ;) Just got one.
Cadillac CTS-V
The V denotes an extra measure of performance in Cadillac’s 21st-century alphanumerics, and the CTS-V is the first of this new breed. The V treatment puts the CTS on the same performance page as Euro supersedans such as the Mercedes C55 AMG and Jaguar S-type R, at a competitive price. Imbued with the sinews and reflexes of a true sports sedan, the rear-drive CTS owes its character to development on Germany’s famed Nürburgring racetrack. For the V-series, the CTS team returned to the Ring to put an even sharper edge on the car’s suspension tuning. But the key V element is power: a 400-hp, 5.7-liter Corvette V-8, plus the Vette’s six-speed manual gearbox. Unchanged for 2005, the CTS-V is eager, competent, and quick. For decades, Cadillac billed itself as “an American Standard for the World.” With the arrival of the CTS-V, that slogan seems credible again.
Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-drive; 4-door 5-passenger sedan
Interior volume, F/R/cargo (cu ft) 54/44/13
Wheelbase 113.4 in
Length/width/height 191.5/70.6/57.3 in
Turning circle 36.1 ft
Curb weight 3850 lb
EPA city/hwy mpg 15/23
Fuel-tank capacity/range 17.5 gal/263 mi
Passive restraints driver and passenger front, side, and curtain airbags; rear curtain airbags
POWERTRAIN
5.7-liter pushrod 16-valve V-8, 400 hp, 395 lb-ft; 6-sp man
SUSPENSION
F ind, unequal-length control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
R ind, multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar
They're great for the money but I'd rather have a rear wheel driver performance car like a Vette, 911, Boxster S, Cayman S, Viper, even an Elise. But they're great performance bargains.

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:17 AM
I saw a road race with that vette (ZO6?) vs porsche, boxter, WRX, EVO & the S/C Mini.
It didn't take too much of the straight away to get past them. Then out braked them coming into the corners. The vette had an insurmountable lead after 2 laps!! :2purples:
I agree with you but almost al of those cars listed wil loose to a Evo around a short road course.Big motor cars would need a pretty long straight to get past them.
I am quite partial to V8 power :p
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Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:24 AM
How about this, only $45,000 ;) Just got one.
Cadillac CTS-V
The V denotes an extra measure of performance in Cadillac’s 21st-century alphanumerics, and the CTS-V is the first of this new breed. The V treatment puts the CTS on the same performance page as Euro supersedans such as the Mercedes C55 AMG and Jaguar S-type R, at a competitive price. Imbued with the sinews and reflexes of a true sports sedan, the rear-drive CTS owes its character to development on Germany’s famed Nürburgring racetrack. For the V-series, the CTS team returned to the Ring to put an even sharper edge on the car’s suspension tuning. But the key V element is power: a 400-hp, 5.7-liter Corvette V-8, plus the Vette’s six-speed manual gearbox. Unchanged for 2005, the CTS-V is eager, competent, and quick. For decades, Cadillac billed itself as “an American Standard for the World.” With the arrival of the CTS-V, that slogan seems credible again.
Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-drive; 4-door 5-passenger sedan
Interior volume, F/R/cargo (cu ft) 54/44/13
Wheelbase 113.4 in
Length/width/height 191.5/70.6/57.3 in
Turning circle 36.1 ft
Curb weight 3850 lb
EPA city/hwy mpg 15/23
Fuel-tank capacity/range 17.5 gal/263 mi
Passive restraints driver and passenger front, side, and curtain airbags; rear curtain airbags
POWERTRAIN
5.7-liter pushrod 16-valve V-8, 400 hp, 395 lb-ft; 6-sp man
SUSPENSION
F ind, unequal-length control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
R ind, multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar
The CTS-V is a great car!
It would be without a doubt the car I would go with if/when I have kids and my better half forces me to grow up and get a 4 door car.
Handling is very nice it has good brakes and a decent aount of power.
I am also excited to drive the new STS-V when the opprotunity arises.

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:27 AM
The 02-04 Z06 is a deadly fast car around the track in the hands of someone that really knows how to push it's limits.
The Z is a little tail happy and chances are most people (average drivers) would be fater in the Evo because of the advatages of AWD.
I would choose the Z06

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:34 AM
tell me about it :frown: :frown:
It would be without a doubt the car I would go with if/when I have kids and my better half forces me to grow up and get a 4 door car.
.

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:39 AM
ain't that the truth.
some of us will insist on "paying extra" for that wiggly tail end.... its just adds to the experience and fun! LOL
I enjoy turning off the traction control and drifting the ass end, although its gonna catch up to me when tire replacement time comes!! :D :sqeyes:
The Z is a little tail happy and chances are most people (average drivers) would be fater in the Evo because of the advatages of AWD.
I would choose the Z06

Drift
08-31-2005, 08:40 AM
I've got a good Caddy / Vette / Porsche story.
My father had a C5 Corvette with an intake and exhaust system, one neighbor has a CTS Caddy with a supercharged Vette motor and a laptop so he can program the motor. The other neighbor has a stock Porsche Cayanne Turbo. They went to the local drag strip for a run what you brung day. 1st out was C5 vs CTS, CTS won... C5 left the traction controll on OOPs . 2nd run C5 vs CTS = C5 wins... all that money and mapping could not get the CTS to beat the fairly stock C5. The Cayanne Turbo on the other hand consistantly launched the vette. All you need is a car legnth or so on initial launch and you just cant make up the difference in a 1/4 mile.
It turned out that the Cayanne Turbo ended up being one of the fastest vehicle of the day :redface:

Drift
08-31-2005, 08:46 AM
The CTS-V is a great car!
It would be without a doubt the car I would go with if/when I have kids and my better half forces me to grow up and get a 4 door car.
Handling is very nice it has good brakes and a decent aount of power.
I am also excited to drive the new STS-V when the opprotunity arises.
BMW M5!!!!
that's all I got to say 'bout that

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:46 AM
no kidding... both those cars have too much torque for their stock tires..... a nice set of NON-DOT tires ;) usually does the trick......
once they spin em out of the hole the race is over. I've learned to roll it easy out of the hole.

Dave C
08-31-2005, 08:49 AM
I thought we were talking about cheap cars. WE ain't no ballers around here.
Cayenne turbo and M5. Thats big pimpin!!! :eek: :wink: :)
BMW M5!!!!
that's all I got to say 'bout that

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:55 AM
I would love to spend some time behind the wheel of the new V10 M5!!! I still could never justify the price of the car based on my income so I would rather go with the CTS-V and leave a little performance and alot of money in the bank.
I also really like the E55 but could never justify the 85K+ price tag.
Cayenne turbo would also be really nice for the women to drive if I had a winning lottery ticket.(For now the 400hp Trailblazer SS might have to due when there released)

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 08:59 AM
I've got a good Caddy / Vette / Porsche story.
My father had a C5 Corvette with an intake and exhaust system, one neighbor has a CTS Caddy with a supercharged Vette motor and a laptop so he can program the motor. The other neighbor has a stock Porsche Cayanne Turbo. They went to the local drag strip for a run what you brung day. 1st out was C5 vs CTS, CTS won... C5 left the traction controll on OOPs . 2nd run C5 vs CTS = C5 wins... all that money and mapping could not get the CTS to beat the fairly stock C5. The Cayanne Turbo on the other hand consistantly launched the vette. All you need is a car legnth or so on initial launch and you just cant make up the difference in a 1/4 mile.
It turned out that the Cayanne Turbo ended up being one of the fastest vehicle of the day :redface:
As long as your out racing and having a good time that's all that matters!
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2491My_Pictures0004.jpg
I still don't like to loose!!! :D :devil:

Dave C
08-31-2005, 09:13 AM
:2purples:
good work!
As long as your out racing and having a good time that's all that matters!
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2491My_Pictures0004.jpg
I still don't like to loose!!! :D :devil:

Drift
08-31-2005, 09:28 AM
As long as your out racing and having a good time that's all that matters!
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2491My_Pictures0004.jpg
I still don't like to loose!!! :D :devil:
Neither does my dad... I grew up with him racing Porsches and Vettes.... Since his run in witrh the neighbor's CTS his C5 is gone and now there's a C6 sitting the the Garage. I spent the weekend with him in it.... very nice... much quieter on the road, he opted out of the Z51 suspension, and went with the Mag suspension... ( rumor has it that the Z51's wear out the tires every 5k miles or so, like the 1st gen Acura NSX's did). Damn stock exhaust makes the car so quiet, you can't hear the car inside the garage. It's going in the trash very soon, along with the air intake system again :devil: I'm pushing him for a supercharger... since it's not my money. :smile:
There's rumors of a 700 hp + Corvette going into production for next year code named the "blue devil". I guess with all the success in the recent years of their racing and the developement of the GT40, Corvette is trying to claim the fastest and mst BHP American made car title.

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 10:05 AM
They have been talking about the "Blue Devil" for a couple years now.No doubt a blown LS7 would be feirce competetion for just about any of the major car manufactures.
I just want to drive the new Z06 that is about to hit streets.

Drift
08-31-2005, 11:53 AM
I'm not too pleased by the way the ZO6 looks though. :umm:

liquidasset
08-31-2005, 12:59 PM
WRX or EVO VIII?
Mitsubishi is giving away free money, and my partner and I started talking about how cheap they are. We know nothing about the little ricer cars. Which one is faster?
Tunner tv says they are pretty equal mitsu faster 1/4 mile wrx did better on the g pad test. both handle pretty good

dmontzsta
08-31-2005, 01:53 PM
Did you cut that hood with a handsaw in your garage? lol

MagicMtnDan
08-31-2005, 02:15 PM
The new Z06 will give any production car in the world a run for its money and will most certainly deliver the best performance for the dollar.
And if they make the "Blue Devil" (blown Z06) well, that'll take the cake (at least 600HP and 3100 lbs.).

Cole Trickle
08-31-2005, 02:32 PM
Did you cut that hood with a handsaw in your garage? lol
Did you choose to drive a Ford or was it something passed down from generation to generation?lol
Funny how people knock something taken from 15 feet away with a 2.0 megapixel camera in bad light.
I dare you to look at it in person and say it is anything less than perfect.......
Look for it in Chevy High Performance very soon.... :p