View Full Version : Re-indexing a droop snoot
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 12:38 PM
I was just wondering if any of y'all had ever tried to re-index a droop? A friend of mine has a boat that the droop hangs down below the ride plate a little and we tried wedging it up but it took too much wedge. My thought is to actually cut the droop, remove a little material here and add a little there, reweld it to where it isn't below the ride plate and be done with it. Does this sound crazy? Basically shorten it a bit but not make it as short as a short droop, and maybe change the angle a bit.
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 12:40 PM
crazy
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 12:46 PM
originally posted by Jet Hydro
crazy
Why?
Does not really sound that crazy. As long as you have a TIG machine with enough amps to weld the aluminum. Also I woud cut it then machine the mating surfaces(remove the desired material) before welding. You need also to make a JIG so that you are exactly perpendicular with the ride plate/hull when you weld this back together. I did something like this for a throttle body elbow where I had to make the elbow shorter to clear the valve covers for someone.
T.J.
www.tjsperformance.com
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Because if you are dragging the hardware it might be time to look in to a "straight snoot" Why are you using a droop snoot? did you need to lower your thrust line? Or did you use it because it was already there?
sdba069
10-11-2005, 01:07 PM
Hey Bo........ Lots of guys run into that. That's why they came up with the short droop or the straight one, among other reasons. I guess if you had a lot of time on your hands or just wanted to do it, go for it. I would be concerned though that you would probably end up with more up nozzle than you would want trying to modify the one you have. Actually, way more. Remember that there is 7 to 8 degrees up in it already.
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 04:28 PM
The ATJ straight snoot has been tried on this boat and it didn't like it no matter what we did set up wise. We wedged it everywhich way and the boat still ran better with the droop even though it is dragging.
originally posted by sdba069
I would be concerned though that you would probably end up with more up nozzle than you would want trying to modify the one you have. Actually, way more. Remember that there is 7 to 8 degrees up in it already.
How much up is built into a short droop Gary? What we were thinking about doing is just copying a short droop. The guy who owns the boat is a VERY skilled exotic materials welder and he can easily do the job. He just thought it would save him a little cash if he modified the long droop.
Squirtin Thunder
10-11-2005, 04:31 PM
The ATJ straight snoot has been tried on this boat and it didn't like it no matter what we did set up wise. We wedged it everywhich way and the boat still ran better with the droop even though it is dragging.
How much up is built into a short droop Gary? What we were thinking about doing is just copying a short droop. The guy who owns the boat is a VERY skilled exotic materials welder and he can easily do the job. He just thought it would save him a little cash if he modified the long droop.
The short droop has 3.5* up !!
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Thanks Jim. How are you doing? I read what happened to you and it scared the sh*t out of me. I am so glad you had the right people around you and everything turned out okay. Hopefully it was just a fluke deal that was caused by all the stress you were under. I am firmly convinced that stress will be the death of half of us. Good job making to and competing in the race. It sucks about the cam but at least you went out there and gave it hell. Go get em' next time!
I say go for it,drag racer guys section and re-weld droops all the time.
BAE_557
10-11-2005, 05:45 PM
Like this one
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3021/1870MVC-585F-med.JPG
I tried this modified Berkeley droop a while back, it came from the "Risky Business" drag boat that KZ drove. I've since switched to the Place "Rooster Booster" as a transition piece.
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Yep BAE, just like that. How's that bad boy running anyway?
sdba069
10-11-2005, 06:53 PM
Nothing wrong with working the droop over, just saying that in the particular application DD was referring to that the short droop may be the answer. I've cut up my share of droops.
BAE_557
10-11-2005, 07:03 PM
Yep BAE, just like that. How's that bad boy running anyway?
Extremely fast.
I will have it together again within the next couple of weeks, I am trying to make the Oct NJBA race.
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 07:04 PM
Lets see some pictures of the back of this boat?
BAE_557
10-11-2005, 07:05 PM
Lets see some pictures of the back of this boat?
Which boat ????
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 07:08 PM
DD`s not your`s, your NutZZZZZZZZZZZZZ .lol just kidding ya. Can I use your motor at the WF? :D
BAE_557
10-11-2005, 07:12 PM
DD`s not your`s, your NutZZZZZZZZZZZZZ .lol just kidding ya. Can I use your motor at the WF? :D
You can't use mine but I know where you can buy one just like it. :cool:
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 07:14 PM
I just want to use one...lol... I dont have that kind of coin :220v: :cry:
BAE_557
10-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Isn't your deal an alky engine, just add a little pop to that BBC.
Jet Hydro
10-11-2005, 07:21 PM
No, it`s just a gas deal but if I do the WF it will be an alky deal for that race. I wanta try something ;)
DeputyDawg
10-11-2005, 07:31 PM
I am not a picture poster, don't even know how. The boat is a Syndicate(sp) T-deck jet that belongs to a friend. It kinda looks like a cross between a Rogers, Sanger, Hondo with a Vdrive T-deck deck with the little windshield on the driver side.
steelcomp
10-11-2005, 08:56 PM
Dawg, don't listen to the naysayers. Cut the bad boy up and try it. Worst that can happen is it dosen't work. Lots of guys (well, I say lots...lets say many) have run into the same problem, and solved it thae same way. Nothing new. I'll run into the same thing when I'm done with my intake. Garry's right, though. The thing might be pointing to the moon when you're done. Keep that in mind...you may just end up with a mini-droop.
Here's a mini droop that got modified for the very reason you're talking about.
(sorry for the big picture)
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1729100_0474.jpg
Extremely fast.
I am trying to make the Oct NJBA race.
right on BAE, get that thing on the racetrack!!!
sdba069
10-12-2005, 01:50 PM
Hey DD..... Check your email...........
DeputyDawg
10-12-2005, 05:14 PM
I checked it and sent ya one back Gary.
sdba069
10-12-2005, 06:04 PM
Hey DD........... I had a Syndicate in here a couple of years ago that was a circle racer. Sounds like the same deck as the one you were talking about. Had a couple of fins under it too. Weird deal, the owner said he had seen another one that had a droop welded directly to a "C" bowl and wanted to know if I could duplicate it. I machined the rear of the bowl and front of the droop and welded it all up. He's as happy as a pig in slop, although I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, the welded droop, not the slop. I guess the slop either. I digress.
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