need to order new pistons

[slotracer]

ok time to build the blower engine. have 4bolt 454 block, steel gm crank, 310 canfield heads, z89 cam, 8-71 d/c blower going with 2 850 holleys and nos. what 's a good piston to order? and should i order total seal rings or file fit. i was looking at some trw l2453f-60, also what are some good rods for it. these are the last parts i need for it. thanks
pat(slotracer) :220v:

[Infomaniac]

Get some good pistons man.
J&E's etc.

[Havasu47]

Info is right. Stay away from the TRW's for this application. JE's and if you want total seal type ring try the Childs & Albert. For rods we like the Manley H-Beam, Eagle's aren't bad either depending on HP. I dont know how much NOS you are using, but if a lot you might consider Manley Pro I beam or Oliver.

[YeLLowBoaT]

Ross also makes a very nice piston. They can do just about anything you want. The "off the shelf" stuff is not alot as far as pistons go... unless you get nuts like I did and had them do way to much to them then its going to hurt. When I took them to the shop to have every thing blanaced the shop was amazed that every thing was with in .3 grams.

[slotracer]

does anyone have any phone numbers or place's to order from? thanks
pat(slotracer) :idea:

[YeLLowBoaT]

http://www.flatlanderracing.com/index.html
http://summitracing.com/
http://rosspistons.com/
http://www.jegs.com/
you can also check your machine shop... Some times they can get them alot cheaper then you can/ they will cut you a deal on parts and labor.

[Fiat48]

No idea why you would fool with a blower AND nitrous. Buy a some spare pistons while you are at it.

[slotracer]

that kinda answers alot right there fiat48. do you really need nos with a blower. i check the sites out for pistons but not sure what ones to get. i want to go 60 over but the part numbers do not say what ones to get. any part numbers that you would use? thanks
pat(slotracer) :rollside:

[Fiat48]

Is this deal for the Cole?

[obnoxious001]

that kinda answers alot right there flat48. do you really need nos with a blower. i check the sites out for pistons but not sure what ones to get. i want to go 60 over but the part numbers do not say what ones to get. any part numbers that you would use? thanks
pat(slotracer) :rollside:
Pat,,,, try calling JE. They have great techs, and will set you up with a "blower" piston based on what you want to do. If you are going to run NOS with the blower, you might want more spares than just a few pistons? Spare block, heads, blower, etc????

[slotracer]

fiat48 yes it will be going in the cole.
pat(slotracer) :crossx:

[Fiat48]

I don't believe you will really want nitrous and the blower in that flat. Blower will do just fine and probably be all you want. Basically all you need is a good flat top piston. TRW is strong enough but just heavy. But I have seen some real shody looking wrist pins they have been coming with. And they are not cheap like they used to be. One of the nicest deals for this app was the Arias piston package. They came with taper wall wrist pins and pin buttons or locks...your choice. And they were a bargain. The bad was they only had them in a few sizes. Doug Herbert used to have them but I don't see them anymore. Competiton products may have them but website is messed up right now.
Srp/JE pistons can be found here:
http://www.jepistons.com/pdf/2005-srp3.pdf
If you have to buy rods anyway...you might as well do a .250 long rod and do the 1.395 compression height piston. With a standard length rod you'll use a 1.645 compression height. You'll want a piston like 139478 for a standard length rod or a 142973 for a .250 long rod. Consider upgrading to a 180 gram taper wall pin...especially if you might consider alcohol in the future.
You'll want file to fit rings...be it Total seal, C&A's or Speed pro's.
Rods I would prefer would be the Lunati Pro mods .250 long. Probably the Eagle's would work with the bolt upgrade L19. Shop around as prices vary quite wide. Pm me with your final choice of whatever you do and we'll double check numbers before you order. And plan on internal balancing the thing. It helps the life.

[slotracer]

if i use the longer rod and the pistons can i still use the stock stroke crank?
just going to run gas in it. this is my xmas present from my wife :argue: i just have to tell her still :rollside:
pat(slotracer) :idea:

[slotracer]

ok i ordered from flatlander racing the je piston's #142973 and upgraded ring set. also order a set of scat h-beam rods with the bolt upgrade done to them. sholud be here next week sometime. now for the machine work i was going to use performance machine in manteca any thoughts? thanks
pat(slotracer) :)

[Fiat48]

This may be the same performance machine that was was owned by George Vierra. Do you know if it is?
And please....get some 2nd opinions on those rods before you put them in. I know nothing about them. And the salesman bs about Lunati...that started years back when Holley bought them out. As of last year...the same guys who worked for Lunati were doing the cranks, etc and they were fine quality.

[slotracer]

do not know if it is the same owner. walt has the long yellow hydro that he's been working on. i know a few people in the valley use him for their machine work. i will get some opions on the rods.
pat(slotracer) :)

[Heatseeker]

Performance Machine in Manteca is owned by Walt Ott, also the owner of the Perfomance Plus TFH team. Walt's shop does good work.
Pat, one thing I've heard about those Scat rods if that they need checked for sizing. You did go with the +.250" length rods, right?

[slotracer]

john yes i ordered the rods and pistons to match the stock crankshaft.
pat(slotracer) :cool:

[Bobbo541]

slotracer I have a 468 BBC with a 1471 and injector hat thats been freshened by S&S automotive in San Leandro.Motor is complete hat to pan.

[slotracer]

bobbo wish i knew about it before i started getting all the parts together. just ordered pistons and rods. got a 8-71 last year. been collecting parts for a year now. how much are you asking? thanks
pat(slotracer) :boxed:

[Bobbo541]

It's my Dads motor and i think he wants 8000.00 obo. He just decided to sell it.

[slotracer]

bobbo do you still kave the flat for sale?
pat(slotracer) :rollside:

[Bobbo541]

Yes its a 69 Hondo needs to be put together on a tandem axle trailer.1500,.00

[slotracer]

isn't in san ramon?
pat(slotracer) :rollside:

[Bobbo541]

I am in San Ramon but the boat is in Hayward at my Dads house. I sent you a pm.