19' Dana Jet Trade??

[RUSSO]

Anyone Lookin To Trade A V-drive Less Motor For A Jet Less Motor???

[Brodie]

Dang. Thats funney.

[Hud]

LOL's............................................. .............C'MON!

[BILLY.B]

Anyone Lookin To Trade A V-drive Less Motor For A Jet Less Motor??? Call Mouzer :rollside:

[Sangster]

Or The BBT's.... :) :) :)

[RUSSO]

:cool: C'MON....HAHAHA

[dmontzsta]

:D

[Rattle Can Lou]

That's some funny stuff right there..I don't care who ya are.

[Klass Klown]

What is so Funny?? What is funny is how you V-drive guy's think, that is the only effecient form of propulsion. I have a cat tunnell bottom 26ft. long that would hand 90% of you your asses.. :idea:

[Big Proppa]

Hey klowny - go ahead and watch the river rats 2 video then say that. Their are quit a few v-drivers on here that don't play.

[Rattle Can Lou]

I really don't want to offend anybody. I thought this was a v-drive forum. That would be where v-drivers practice their craft. Practicing their craft would be telling everybody just how good the prop with a v-drive actually is. Now you don't see me over in the Just Jets section do ya??? In fact I have never looked at that section..Don't have any desire. Now let me tell you a story. This will explain my prejiduce (sp). I bet you that are offended are young. Well I was around in the late 60's when v-drive boats were the deal. Along came Schuster and Berkeley and many other makers. The insurance company's went nuts. They yell from the rooftops.."NO PROPS, NO PROPS" The safest boats ever built. You can't cut peoples legs of with these things. Insurance rates were almost free. The public flocked to these new boats. Then reality set in. People were running into eveything with these new boats. They were driving them up into the back of their trucks trying to get them back on their trailers. They were ramming into other boats and docks because they couldnt steer them. All of a sudden the insurance rates were through the roofs. I worked for a company that was called Los Altos Marine. We were the largest Tahiti dealer in the state of Calif..Then the owner decided to splash some boats and came out with the Sidewinder hulls made in Redding, Calif. Then the owner's brother invented the Panther Jet. His name was Ken Baker. I could go on with my pedigree, but I won't. So when I say something about Jets...Let's just say I have a past with them. I've worked hard to develop my distaste for them.

[Towndrunk]

Damn, I thought I was funny!! :cry:

[olbiezer]

ya know i was going to post something smart alicky and would have been the first one but thought better of it......this poor guy sees the error of his ways and wants a v drive just is going about it wrong thats all.......cut em some slack lol

[dmontzsta]

IMO.
90% of the V-Drive owners, KNOW what they own. They have a prop boat for a reason. Prop boats are not like jet boats, jet boaters will even tell you this. The argument of jet boats being "more user friendly" has been quoted by many of them. Most first time boaters do not go buy V-Drives. Also, V-Drives tend to have a higher resell value and the equipment costs more. Gearbox, prop-shaft, prop, rudder, stuffing box, steering, skegs, cav plates, downpedal and handle, the list goes on.
In conclusion; asking for a trade, is not likely to happen. Most of the V-Drivers love their boats and have searched hard and payed good money for them.
Klown: Keep the tugboat in the ocean with the rest of the container haulers.

[RUSSO]

Hahah...man... I Was Just Puttin It Out There...you Can Dump Some Money Into A Pump Too...but I Will Put Pics And More Info Up On The Just Jets Part Soon..i Got My Girlfriend On Her Way To Allens To Get My River Rats 2..think I Wore Out The First One..and Bad Boats Is Getting Old..haha.hope I Sell Her Soon So I Can Build A Flattie Soon..

[Moneypitt]

He said "tugboat"........Where are the moderators?........MP

[Squirtin Thunder]

Anyone Lookin To Trade A V-drive Less Motor For A Jet Less Motor???
Sounds like a good idea to me. That damn drive shaft taken up a good 30% of the room. And no shollow water runs ??? Everything shacking loose ???
Damn V-Drives !!! :argue:
The never ending debate.

[dmontzsta]

Sounds like a good idea to me. That damn drive shaft taken up a good 30% of the room. And no shollow water runs ??? Everything shacking loose ???
Damn V-Drives !!! :argue:
The never ending debate.
I will give up 30% room for 30% more speed. :D
:)
check tow rigs.

[Squirtin Thunder]

I will give up 30% room for 30% more speed. :D
:)
check tow rigs.
OK now Tarzontzsta it is more like 15%-20%, that just shows we would kick most V-Drivers buts if we had one or ten !!!!

[Sangster]

And no shollow water runs ???
Squeezing Thunder....I sure get tired of hearing that as a positive for having a jetboat....Not to mention your insulting your own intelligence....Acually, a jetboat in say 3' of water will suck up rocks & crap of the bottom ruining your day in a hurry..A v-drive will fair alot better in shallow water than most jets will... Think about it.......http://www2.***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif ....That's long enough.....It's not that hard to figure out.. Anyhoot, The poor guy is headed in the right direction for sure.. But I think he needs to Sell the jetboat, cut his losses & by a v-drive.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[dmontzsta]

Good point Sangster.
Most V-Drives ride with hardly any boat in the water. I have seen ski ropes, sand and weeds stop a jet boat in its tracks and make it pretty much useless.

[Squirtin Thunder]

Good point Sangster.
Most V-Drives ride with hardly any boat in the water. I have seen ski ropes, sand and weeds stop a jet boat in its tracks and make it pretty much useless.
Now you did it. Sittin on the trailers also render the V-Drive useless :yuk:

[Sangster]

The jetboat shops must love these guys that think shallow is good....At $1,200.00 + to repair a good jet that swallowed a couple feet of the lake bottom because they think or heard it's OK to do..... Yup..They laugh all the way to the bank..... :) :) :)

[canuck1]

Sangster
anytime you wanna run some shallow water with your V-drive let me know.
BTW 3' ain't shallow.....if you and Donny have any more dreams you want shot down just call :)

[Sangster]

Sangster
anytime you wanna run some shallow water with your V-drive let me know.
BTW 3' ain't shallow.....if you and Donny have any more dreams you want shot down just call :)
Canuck....What do you call shallow then....Help me out here a little bit... :cool: :cool: :cool:

[canuck1]

The jetboat shops must love these guys that think shallow is good....At $1,200.00 + to repair a good jet that swallowed a couple feet of the lake bottom because they think or heard it's OK to do..... Yup..They laugh all the way to the bank..... :) :) :)
Have you ever actually had any experience with a jet?

[Sangster]

Certainly.. I woudn't be running my jaws if I didn't know what I was talking about.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[canuck1]

Canuck....What do you call shallow then....Help me out here a little bit... :cool: :cool: :cool:
When you can hear the gravel tickling the bottom of the hull or in V-drive land enough to cover the top of your high tops :rollside:

[Towndrunk]

Sangster
anytime you wanna run some shallow water with your V-drive let me know.
BTW 3' ain't shallow.....if you and Donny have any more dreams you want shot down just call :)
I have a prop boat I'll run with you. In fact, I'll go first. Ready anytime.

[Squirtin Thunder]

This would be concidered deep water !!!
I also run in the river here(Bullhead) in less than 12". I was watching people standing in less than knee deep water. But that was not on purpose. No harm no foul.
http://www.jetboatracing.com/277_2004%20RACE%20SEASON%20003.jpg

[Towndrunk]

I can cover that, no problem. More like 6".

[canuck1]

I can cover that, no problem. More like 6".
Air boat?

[Sangster]

[QUOTE=Squirtin Thunder]This would be concidered deep water !!!
I also run in the river here(Bullhead) in less than 12". But that was not on purpose. No harm no foul
Well having said that.... All I can say is.."Your the Jetboat Guy".. Can you give me the # of a jetboat shop or manufacture that would recommend running in a foot of water is good for a pump.....

[canuck1]

[QUOTE=Squirtin Thunder]This would be concidered deep water !!!
I also run in the river here(Bullhead) in less than 12". But that was not on purpose. No harm no foul
Well having said that.... All I can say is.."Your the Jetboat Guy".. Can you give me the # of a jetboat shop or manufacture that would recommend running in a foot of water is good for a pump.....
Eagle Marine 403 347 4565

[Squirtin Thunder]

Well having said that.... All I can say is.."Your the Jetboat Guy".. Can you give me the # of a jetboat shop or manufacture that would recommend running in a foot of water is good for a pump.....
I don't recomend it with a glass boat ever. I will say I was lucky. What actually hurts them more than anything is dry starts, it ****s shit up bad.

[Sangster]

C1...Berkley, Aggressor or Panther would never advise that to be common practice...I hang out at a few jetboat shop that repair more pumps that are tore up by jest starting them in shallow water..let alone running them at speed in shallow water... It's typical jetboat mentality....Hope some poor schmuck that has a jetboat don't take your little sermons to heart... Oh well...If Canuck1 says it's OK..It must be....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: BTW.....Any relation to Kim Hanson....http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gif http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gif

[Squirtin Thunder]

C1...Berkley, Aggressor or Panther would never advise that to be common practice...I hang out at a few jetboat shop that repair more pumps that are tore up by jest starting them in shallow water..let alone running them at speed in shallow water... It's typical jetboat mentality....Hope some poor schmuck that has a jetboat don't take your little sermons to heart... Oh well...If Canuck1 says it's OK..It must be....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: BTW.....Any relation to Kim Hanson....http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gif http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/cool/cool0044.gif
Just kind of curious why do you think rescue boats (all forms) have jet drives ???

[dmontzsta]

Just kind of curious why do you think rescue boats (all forms) have jet drives ???
Why do the paramedics use vans?
:)

[Squirtin Thunder]

Why do the paramedics use vans?
:)
They don't they use Ford Vans !!! :yuk:

[Sangster]

The more I read this thread.... The more "Stupified" I get...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Squirtin Thunder]

The more I read this thread.... The more "Stupified" I get...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Lay off the gas !!!
It is very simple jets suck and vdrive screw !!! :cool:

[canuck1]

[QUOTE=Sangster]C1...Berkley, Aggressor or Panther would never advise that to be common practice...I hang out at a few jetboat shop that repair more pumps that are tore up by jest starting them in shallow water..let alone running them at speed in shallow water... It's typical jetboat mentality....Hope some poor schmuck that has a jetboat don't take your little sermons to heart... Oh well...If Canuck1 says it's OK..It must be....... BTW.....Any relation to Kim Hanson....
Sangster
You are from the land of glass hulls and lake boats and drag racing... Mine is built to run rivers, lakes where ever. Tearing up a pump by starting in shallow water? no way
I don't expect parts to last 20 years, alum is good for hulls not impellers. we are hard on parts if it will go through the intake grate it will go through the pump and I might have to sharpen the impeller. My avatar is a good warning to others as to what we like to play in
I can't drink enough beer to be related to Hanson :rollside:

[Morg]

So a few years ago we are camping at rollins lake in Colfax Ca.
A guy with a sanger hydro jet is tunning a little & running the boat parrelel to the shore.
My buddy Paul mentions to the guy that he migh not want to do that, she shrugs Paul off.
A few minutes later the guy wades around the ass of the boat & falls in the hole that his pump has created. Soon after that the motor started to labor & die. The hydro spent the rest of the weekend on the trailer.
I realize the river race deals are built to run in the shallow stuf. I am wondering, is the forward motion would allow the pump not to suck up to much stuf???

[canuck1]

So a few years ago we are camping at rollins lake in Colfax Ca.
A guy with a sanger hydro jet is tunning a little & running the boat parrelel to the shore.
My buddy Paul mentions to the guy that he migh not want to do that, she shrugs Paul off.
A few minutes later the guy wades around the ass of the boat & falls in the hole that his pump has created. Soon after that the motor started to labor & die. The hydro spent the rest of the weekend on the trailer.
I realize the river race deals are built to run in the shallow stuf. I am wondering, is the forward motion would allow the pump not to suck up to much stuf???
Morg
He was running the boat stationary/anchored in one spot?
Not much bigger than 1/2" will get through the grates we run and if it does it will go straight through. You do not want to follow to close in the tight stuff as rocks spit at you hurt :)
The loader stuff that the drag guys and the lake guys run don't work on the river. The marathon boats run spoons instead. Mine is to slow to need either

[Towndrunk]

Air boat?
Ya got me!! :p

[Brodie]

Dang. this tread is stoopid,,,,,
caint beleive I jest read it.
jets r fer homos. end of the storey.
If you dont know that by now, aint worth esplainin,,,,

[Squirtin Thunder]

Can you give me the # of a jetboat shop or manufacture that would recommend running in a foot of water is good for a pump.....
Here is a list I swiped from River jet magazine (yes they too have a magazine)
Aliboats
Private Bag 62
Maun, Botswana,
Phone: 267-686-0201
Fax: 267-686-0714
Almar Boats
2301 East Dock St.
Tacoma, WA 98402-2915
Phone: 253-572-2877
Fax: 253-572-0065
Alumacraft
315 West St. Julien St.
St. Peter, MN 56082
Phone: 507-931-1050
Fax: 507-931-9056
Alumaweld Boats, Inc.
2000 Rogue River Dr.
Eagle Point, OR 97524
Phone: 541-826-7171
Fax: 541-826-6701
Apache Sea Master
PO Box 238
Hoskins, NE 68740
Phone: 402-371-1400
Fax: 402-565-4845
Armstrong Marine
255566 Highway 101
Port Angeles, WA 98362
Phone: 360-457-5752
Fax: 360-457-5753
Aztec Fabrications, Inc.
1495 Sycamore St.
Clarkston, WA 99403
Phone: 509-751-1073
Bentz Boats
613 Bryden Avenue, #C
PMB 394 Lewiston, ID 83501
Phone: 208-746-7035
Fax: 208-750-0037
Blazer Jet Boats
Rtl Box 230 M1
Ellington, MO 63638
Phone: 573-663-3266
Fax: 573-663-2244
Bloodworth Boats
307 George Creek Rd.
Asotin, WA 99402
Phone: 509-243-1131
Boulton Power Boats
6241 Crater Lake Highway
Central Point, OR 97524
Phone: 541-826-7330
Fax: 541-826-7340
Broadwater Industries, Ltd.
247 1st Avenue, East
Prince Rupert, BC V8J-1A
Phone: 250-624-5158
Fax: 250-624-5668
Coastal Craft
Welded Aluminum Boats Ltd.
PO Box 860 Gibsons, BC V0N-1V0
Phone: 604-886-3004
Fax: 604-886-4537
Custom Weld Boats
PO Box 309
Lewiston, ID 83501
Phone: 208-750-1313
Fax: 208-746-8445
Double Barrel Racing Team
7352 Old Bruneau Highway
Marsing, ID 83639
Phone: 208-573-2730
Fax: 208-896-4927
Fish-Rite, Inc.
1419 Justice Road
Central Point, OR 97502
Phone: 800-575-2243
Gaterboats Jet
4554 Highway H.
Sullivan, MO 63080
Phone: 573-627-4287
Fax: 573-627-2051
Harbercraft Jetcraft
67 Highway 97A
Vernon, BC V1B-3S1
Phone: 888-545-9171
Fax: 250-545-4433
Hewes Marine Company
213 Highway 395 North
Colville, WA 99114
Phone: 800-326-6594
Fax: 509-684-4663
Klamath River Jet Boats
PO Box 2093
Vallejo, CA 94592
Phone: 707-643-0447
Koffler Boats
90017 Greenhill Road
Eugene, OR 97402
Phone: 541-688-6093
Fax: 541-688-79858
Legend Boats
Regional Road 55
Whitfish, Sudbury, ON P0M-3E0
Phone: 705-866-2821
Fax: 705-866-2616
Legend Craft
2844 Cow Patty Trail
Alexander, AZ 72002
Phone: 501- 316-4409
Fax: 501- 316-4802
LifeTimer Boats
#1-2905 Allenby Road
Duncan, BC V9L-6W2
Phone: 250-748-2187
Fax: 250-745-7431
Marathon Marine Manufacturing, Ltd.
7719-44 A St.
Edmonton, AB T6B-2R5
Phone: 866-440-6800
Fax: 780-469-8079
Maxweld Boats
PO Box 326
Hebo, OR 97122
Phone: 503-392-3911
Fax: 503-392-3969
Motion Marine
22768 S. Johnson Road
West Linn, OR 97068
Phone: 888-290-1802
Fax: 503-557-1732
North River Jet Boats, Inc.
PO Box 340
Roseburg, OR 97470
Phone: 888-442-1330
Fax: 503-557-1732
Northwest Jet Boats, Inc.
22112 Commercial Avenue
Pasco, WA 99301
Phone: 509-545-5586
Fax: 509-545-6813
Norvelle Boats
23405 Miami Foley Road
Nehalem, OR 97131
Phone: 503-322-0014
Fax: www.norvelleboats.com
Oquawka Boats and Fabrication, Ltd.
R.R. #1 Box 105J
Oquawka, IL 61469-0091
Phone: 309-867-2213
Outlaw Eagle Manufacturing LTD
6732 65th Ave.
Red Deer, AB T4P-1A5
Phone: 403-347-4565
Fax: 403-343-7932
Precision Weld Custom Boats Inc.
2422 N.E. 172Ave.
Vancouver, WA 98684
Phone: 360-607-3546
Rapid Craft Aluminum Boats
102 N. 740 W.
Blackfoot, ID 83221
Phone: 208-785-5393
Renaissance Group/Duckworth/Weldcraft
PO Box 580
Clarkston, WA 99403
Phone: 509-758-9831
Fax: 509-758-8809
Riddle Marine
607 Snake River Avenue
Lewiston, ID 83501
Phone: 208-743-2660
River Wild Custom Aluminum Boats
1450 SE M Street
Grants Pass, OR
Phone: (541) 955-1970
Rogue Jet Boatworks
1116 East Vilas Road
Medford, OR 97502
Phone: 541-944-2155
Fax: 541-245-6119
Schafer's Boat Inc.
R.R. #2 Box 909
L'Anse, MI 49946
Phone: 906-524-5136
Scully's Aluminum and Fabrication
1015 Stephensville Road
Morgan City, LA 70381
Phone: 985-385-1323
Fax: 985-384-5146
Shoal Runner Boats, Ltd.
553 Doolittle Outer Road
Rolla, MO 65401
Phone: 888-762-3777
Fax: 573-762-3090
Silver Streak Boats, Ltd.
6804 West Coast Road
Sooke, BC V0S-1N0
Phone: 877-659-4143
Fax: 250-642-6390
Sprint Marine
PO Box 520069
Big Lake, AK 99652
Phone: 907-892-6692
Fax: 907-892-6329
Thunder Jet River Boats
PO Box 460
Clarkston, WA 99403
Phone: 509-769-2142
Fax: 509-769-2146
Tuff Boat
PO Box 492
Preston, WA 98050
Phone: 877-583-8833
Turner Marine (River Pro)
PO Box 77
Hillsboro, MO 63050
Phone: 314-378-2685 (cell)
William Munson Company
18130 Sunset Way
Edmonds, WA 98026
Phone: 360-424-3055
Fax: 425-774-2408
Willie Boats
1440 Justice Road
Central Point, OR 97502
Phone: 541-779-4141
Fax: 541-779-9346
Winninghoff Boats, Inc.
55 Warehouse Lane
Rowley, MA 01969
Phone: 978-948-2314
Fax: 978-948-2315
Wolf Boats
2541 Coleman Road
Courtenay, BC V9J-1T8
Phone: 250-334-0027
Fax: 250-334-0067
Wooldridge Boats
9224 Martin Luther King Jr. Way South
Seattle, WA 98118
Phone: 206-722-8998
Here is a link to their Bios. Just click the Company and it will take you to the bio
http://www.riverjetmagazine.com/index.cfm?fuse=bio
Now believe it or not Aggressors' are widely used in the Northern states and in Canada on these types of boats. The biggest Aggressor Dealer is in Canada.

[Rattle Can Lou]

Jet pumps in aluminum boats on a shallow river or up through the rapids is cool shiat. I have ridden in them and driven them and that is what they're intended use should be...Bottom Feeder, I won't diss a river boat.

[Aluminum Squirt]

Shallow isn't 3', its 3". Really shallow is a dry sand bar you have to slide accross. I realize that you are saying in the traditional lake sense a V drive can handler shallower water than they get credit for, but I'll race any V drive you want as long as I get to choose the course. Shallow water moves, has sand bars, some class III white water, etc. As far as damaging my jet, we'll I haven't seen it yet. I've run over logs, not sticks....logs, sand bars, gravel bars, even had my grate completely clogged by rocks. I've had to push my boat off a gravel bar just to get it wet enough to float. Only time its ever been in the shop is when I put some pretty sizeable dents in the bottom, had to be fixed with a sledge hammer. Never even opened my pump up to look at my impeller and clearances because I've never lost any speed or gained any RPM for the over 150 hrs of shallow water running I've done. I'm not here to knock V drives, I love all boats, just want to make sure the V drivers understand there is a entire group of us who are slightly insane and and run some very shallow water w/o damaging our jets-Aluminum Squirt

[bigkatboat]

Rather than "bang heads" I'll suggest making the Dana into a V- drive. That hull is off of a Hornet and I have rigged a few Dana 19's and Hornet 19's as V- drives. If you have more than 650hp (for real!) it will run very well, if you really don't have that kind of power, don't bother! The boat has full stringers and it needs only 'minor' bottom work to go V-drive! OK you guys can go back to your "fight'n"!

[bottom feeder]

Hot Boats Rule!
I dont care if you have a V-Drive or Jet. They are both cool in my book. At the same performance level they both require a skilled driver. The skills that are needed to operate either at their maximum are as diferant as the drive type.
Just to add to the thread, does any one have a good starter V-Drive for sale preferably in the North West. And no I do not want to trade my jet.Somethiig like this would be a good start.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/PUMPkin455/32-CFWNYD2006.jpg
Rattle Can Lou, I know you are a stand up guy.(even if you would not paint my tin can). You are a boat nut allways have been allways will be. The river boats are cool and so are the V-drives. Did you see the V-drive that ran the Payette River race in the early years 1986 or so. One of the best "shows" I have ever seen, A V-Drive in a white water river race.

[Moneypitt]

Ah, bottom feeder, that isn't a v drive, nice boat, but no v drive......MP

[Promodbike]

They call jet boats Mudsuckers for a reason.

[bottom feeder]

Dang it! I made a jump for the band wagon and landed in the mudsucker agin.
The crackers are bitchen.
This is what a V-drive should look like and be driven like.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/119167DSC07145x.jpg
Nice job Dossangers

[Rampager]

Normally I hate these pissing contest threads but a few people here have no CLUE what they are talking about.
I USED to have a wooden jetboat, yea totally different animal and obviously one wouldn't want to run shallows with that more for the sake of the hull than the pump.
I now own a pretty kicka$$ ALUMINUM hull (the design ain't won 12 of 14 worlds for nothing....)and have run it for one season. A few people have already gotten preveiws of the DVD I made of the first seasons adventures and it is video taped PROOF that you can run water that is INSANELY shallow and have the boat AND pump live quite nicely. Its a race hull but I have used to for river exploring
3 feet!?!?! hell thats what I'd find for absolute IDEAL water to get the boat up on plane AFTER I've gotten stuck in 1.5 inches. I would LOVE to see a prop boat try to follow me up a river, it would be hilarious! I've run in stuff even I was surprised I didn't clip the bottom and I bet ya it was 3" or maybe even less. My only mistake was running an aluminum impeller(pump came out of the wood hull) and yea that did get torn up. SS will fix that and is in the works for next season.
Im sure like anyone not familiar with alloy hulls(me a year ago) you would be absolutly shocked what a jet can do in shallow water, I know I was/am. A foot of clean water in a jetboat is almost boring. Obviously ultra sandy/silty water isn't good for ANY drive never mind a jetpump. What does that do to a waterpump in a Vdrive boat? or a sterndrive?
NO prop boat will be following me where I run anytime soon and if they do they better hope I am in a good mood cause they WILL need a ride back to the launch ramp!
Im quite sure I could get on plane in water that you would never even want to start a vdrive boat in much less shift it into drive
Its a shame there is some of this attitude on this forum cause it keeps alot of really knowledgeable(and damn nice) guys from coming/posting here. I cannot fathom why "lakeboaters" don't want to learn more about an alloy hull boat thats pushing triple digits(or surpassing it) with a ROCKgrate and no shoe or stuffer/loader.........
<shrugs>
just my .02 and yea sorry for being another Canuck
p.s. watch video 17 and 18 on this page and tell me any prop boat would be following me! Oh and btw my boat ran all summer without any pump repairs
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5550.0
actually on page 2 there is a clip (xero1)of one of those ultra sweet moments when the hull juuuust clips the bottom. Those moments put a huge smile on your face, they sure wouldn't in any prop boat!

[Klass Klown]

First of all I have seen RR2 Big Proppa, And those boats are cool, yet not all that impressive in my opinion. There was a race between a supposedly HEAVY HITTER who hands out ass whoopin's like CANDY, Racing an underpowered Jet boat, looked like a cp tunnell. The Heavy Hitter's boat looked like a mid 8.60-9.0 boat granted yet they never started from a dead stop. I have owned runner bottom V-DRIVES that have ran high 7's as well as jet boats with equal power have run low 8's but I will tell you my jet owned 98% of the v drives in the traditional 1/8 mile lake race. And we will not even talk about lake Hydro's. As I said my D.C.B cat will go by 87.4% of the HEAVY HITTERS here on these FORUMS NO PROBLEM. :220v:

[RUSSO]

Wow...hahah...so Any Takers..haha..maybe For A 67 Rayson Or Something???runner..maybe..threw Hull Exhaust Would Be A Plus..

[Doin' Time]

wow...tell us what you really think!

[bottom feeder]

Rampager,
As before nice action shots. Keep up the good work you tin canner. Maby we should keep our big mouthes shut as not to populate the water ways

[Morg]

Normally I hate these pissing contest threads but a few people here have no CLUE what they are talking about.
I USED to have a wooden jetboat, yea totally different animal and obviously one wouldn't want to run shallows with that more for the sake of the hull than the pump.
I now own a pretty kicka$$ ALUMINUM hull (the design ain't won 12 of 14 worlds for nothing....)and have run it for one season. A few people have already gotten preveiws of the DVD I made of the first seasons adventures and it is video taped PROOF that you can run water that is INSANELY shallow and have the boat AND pump live quite nicely. Its a race hull but I have used to for river exploring
3 feet!?!?! hell thats what I'd find for absolute IDEAL water to get the boat up on plane AFTER I've gotten stuck in 1.5 inches. I would LOVE to see a prop boat try to follow me up a river, it would be hilarious! I've run in stuff even I was surprised I didn't clip the bottom and I bet ya it was 3" or maybe even less. My only mistake was running an aluminum impeller(pump came out of the wood hull) and yea that did get torn up. SS will fix that and is in the works for next season.
Im sure like anyone not familiar with alloy hulls(me a year ago) you would be absolutly shocked what a jet can do in shallow water, I know I was/am. A foot of clean water in a jetboat is almost boring. Obviously ultra sandy/silty water isn't good for ANY drive never mind a jetpump. What does that do to a waterpump in a Vdrive boat? or a sterndrive?
NO prop boat will be following me where I run anytime soon and if they do they better hope I am in a good mood cause they WILL need a ride back to the launch ramp!
Im quite sure I could get on plane in water that you would never even want to start a vdrive boat in much less shift it into drive
Its a shame there is some of this attitude on this forum cause it keeps alot of really knowledgeable(and damn nice) guys from coming/posting here. I cannot fathom why "lakeboaters" don't want to learn more about an alloy hull boat thats pushing triple digits(or surpassing it) with a ROCKgrate and no shoe or stuffer/loader.........
<shrugs>
just my .02 and yea sorry for being another Canuck
p.s. watch video 17 and 18 on this page and tell me any prop boat would be following me! Oh and btw my boat ran all summer without any pump repairs
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5550.0
actually on page 2 there is a clip (xero1)of one of those ultra sweet moments when the hull juuuust clips the bottom. Those moments put a huge smile on your face, they sure wouldn't in any prop boat!
Yeah you are right. It is a shame that attitude comes out in posts.

[Rampager]

Hey Bottom shoot me your addy and I will mail you a DVD of the adventures
It should be all fixed/ready by early next week(had some disc burning issues) Canuck you too...
Cheers

[Squirtin Thunder]

p.s. watch video 17 and 18 on this page and tell me any prop boat would be following me! Oh and btw my boat ran all summer without any pump repairs
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5550.0
actually on page 2 there is a clip (xero1)of one of those ultra sweet moments when the hull juuuust clips the bottom. Those moments put a huge smile on your face, they sure wouldn't in any prop boat!
I have a major complaint; The damn video is way to short !!!

[Klass Klown]

I have a major complaint; your's is way to short !!!
Same complaint these V-Driver's wive's have...... :cry:

[dmontzsta]

Let me ask this. Who the hell wants to run in shallow water anyways? You get going and bottom out and get thrown over the dash. It happened to my dad before and wasnt pretty.

[Rampager]

lol, I won't comment on that one as this IS the vdrive section ;)
Since ya are a Ford guy Squirtin I "may" be able to shoot ya a copy of the disk
One cool scene where I pass about 100 salmon fishing guys, 2 of them standing less than knee deep dead center in the river, reeling in damn quick as a big block jetboat heads straight for them LOL (also at least 4 log jumps and i dunno how many gravel bars, hmmmm maybe I should sell these things )
Cheers
incidentally my boat is the same hull as the previous boat pic with the lightning bolts, it is super tough and can take some vicious hits

[Rampager]

Dmontz, you ever run shallow water at speed in a boat thats set up to do so?????
If you had, you would NEVER have asked that....
this goes for anyone out there, open your mind, find someone to take you on a riverjetboat. Run a rapid, skim thru a river 10 feet wide and god knows how deep(you rarely even know, you can't stop to check thats for sure!), jump a tree and skid over a gravel bar, just once
then you'll understand
Can't blame you for getting rid of the glass jetboat, but keep the pump and find an aluminum hull!
Cheers
p.s. ever since I was in HS i read ***boat and always loved the vdrive boats

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

I'm amazed at how well those little aluminum jet boats whip and turn and accelerate! Several years ago there was a manufacturer at the Long Beach boat show selling them. I took a close look inside and out, nice boat!
I don't understand the shallow water bickering :confused: but whatever. Personally I don't run anywhere shallow so its a non issue to me. If I did, maybe I'd consider buying one. :boxed:
The video links posted above are way too short. I would like to see more of the scenery, looks beautiful.

[Rampager]

vdrive that was a really fun river to run and since Im the only guy doing this in this neck of the woods its always an adventure as we have no clue whats around the next bend! There was certainly some awesome scenery as we weaved upriver thru the woods. Ran that river twice, the second time with 2 camcorders running full time(those clips are actually off a digital camera from the first time, thats why they r so short, river was 6-12" shallower the first time we ran it!)
I can't get into sending out a zillion copies of this DVD for free but perhaps someone 'central' to the Vdrive community wants one that they can copy and send out to whoever else wants one? It has scenes of me "learning" tin boating on 4 rivers and is aprox 45-50 mins. I wanted more footage but was also learning about camcorders etc while trying to keep the pump wet too, It was an exciting summer, next season will be even better!
Cheers

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

First of all I have seen RR2 Big Proppa, And those boats are cool, yet not all that impressive in my opinion. There was a race between a supposedly HEAVY HITTER who hands out ass whoopin's like CANDY, Racing an underpowered Jet boat, looked like a cp tunnell. The Heavy Hitter's boat looked like a mid 8.60-9.0 boat granted yet they never started from a dead stop. I have owned runner bottom V-DRIVES that have ran high 7's as well as jet boats with equal power have run low 8's but I will tell you my jet owned 98% of the v drives in the traditional 1/8 mile lake race. And we will not even talk about lake Hydro's. As I said my D.C.B cat will go by 87.4% of the HEAVY HITTERS here on these FORUMS NO PROBLEM. :220v:
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :boxed:

[dmontzsta]

Rampager, I have never ran in shallow water. Personally, I have no interest in it either. Thats just my opinion and everyone has one.
I remember watching them on TV when I was little. It was awesome how they whipped the corners.

[olbiezer]

its all good dudes.......hell just because i dont have alot of interest in going fast in 6 inches of water dont make me a jet boat hater.......there is obveiously a market for em and alot of interest........i love watching the speed channel when they had those closed course jets on.......dam how do they even find there way around those short courses? i really dont understand all the bickering either......some like em some dont i guess.......id say it really takes balls to go 100 in a v drive and the same in a jet ........whatever lol :220v: :220v:

[Rampager]

Everyone seems to know the sprint boats but they are the 'extreme' form of what we do. At times I don't think people realize that you can pleasure boat that same way. People in New Zealand do it all the time and its catching on more and more in western canada, the north/western US and now in Michigan and even way out here in Ontario(well ok its just me....for now ;) ). I can tell you from expereince there is a reason for that. It is a BLAST! One time we stopped after running a river my hands were literally shaking. Only explaination I can offer is .......adrenaline!
But yes you are right, to each his own..
(altho your comments now seem a little less valid to me "who the hell wants to run shallows anyway.... etc etc" don't knock it till you have tried it!)
oh and I have yet to be thrown into the dash either
Cheers

[olbiezer]

how do u turn around and go back if u run out of water anyway? i think if i had to carry a winch and tackle around with me it would take all the fun out of it lol

[canuck1]

how do u turn around and go back if u run out of water anyway? i think if i had to carry a winch and tackle around with me it would take all the fun out of it lol
Sprint boat

[Rampager]

When your boat has steel skid plates and some form of bow protection(usually plastic, UHMW) you get out and push! Alot of NZ guys carry what looks like a cross between a paddle and a cricket bat, its actually a push stick, strong enough to pry the boat forward with. Some even use a cruiser bumper or two to "roll" the boat back to deeper water.
Im a bit unusual in that my 'adventure boat" has a 800 lb+ big block in it and its 21 feet long! lol
I carry 2, 2"x2" aluminum push bars 7' long, a 2000 lb ATV winch(cheap but it got me out of the river after the "incident" in Michigan!) and a few other small things just in case. You really gotta worry about 2 things: boating alone and breaking down, that can be BIG problems, and getting stuck somewhere thats not WIDE enough to turn the boat around(yes I have run thru stuff thats less than 21 feet wide) Read the New Zealand forum to see what adventures you can have in a boat. Its way more fun than you can imagine and EVERY outing becomes an adventure.
I'd love to go out in a 120 mph vdrive boat and scorch some water but I have a feeling after going up and down the lake 50 times I will be looking for something else to do.
Everytime you run a shallow river its different, different depth, this rock wasn't showing before, that tree wasn't submerged before, that rock IS submerged now(ouch) etc etc There is absolutly nothing stopping me from putting an 800 HP motor in my same hull and doing the same river runs. If the river gets 'wide' and boring I can tear it up at 95 mph but I can still jump logs and scrape over gravel, Whats so hard to understand about the appeal of this???? lol
I can't wait to get my boat speed up and hang with most outboard guys in our area and keep right on motoring when it gets shallow
Im done for tonight but all I can say is before you question it, badmouth it, TRY IT!
Cheers

[olbiezer]

i'll be up for my demo ride in august lol

[Aluminum Squirt]

I'm not here to sell shallow water. I love it but I'd just as soon keep people off the rivers I play in. I'm not here to bash V drives either. I love V drives, grew up on one, and would certainly own one if I had room for a third boat in my life. Many of the best looking/running boats I have seen have been V drives. I'm sure it takes a very different set of driving skills to make a 100+MPH pass in a flat than it does to run 3" water in a jet. I was just trying to set a few people straight on the fact that all jets are not from the 70's, have 455's, are made from fiberglass, or have pump problems in less than 3' of water. There are plenty of fast lake jets, there are plenty of fast V drives, but there are also some aluminum jets out there than run regularly in 3" of water, jump over things, run hard, and turn hard. People that blindly and vehemently support their particular and very small segment of their sport while bashing others are ignorant. I love boating and high performance, but I also have a limited means. If I won the lottery taday, you wouldn't be able to build a big enough shop for all my boats, and every style would be represented. OK, I've said enough, I'll try to stay out of the V drive section now, as you guys know your sport far better than I ever will-Aluminum Squirt

[Aluminum Squirt]

PS-my sled is down right now, but as soon as its back up and if you are in Norcal, just let me know and you'll get a demo ride

[Klass Klown]

You guy's make me laugh. HA HA HA HA Go get em fellow jetter's.

[Squirtin Thunder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=-qn_H2YO9rM

[MAXIMUS]

Has anybody caught any footage of those jet boats I think from Australia or something that run those little short course 1 pin obstical deals. I saw a reality show where one lost steering & wound up on shore & on spectators... I was stunned at how quik & tight turning those things were... White water jets are quite impressive plain & simple...

[Squirtin Thunder]

Maxi look up !!!

[bigkatboat]

I thought the guy wanted to go from jet drive to V- drive, why all the bashing? If you guys want to bang around on the rocks, bust up your equipment, and play in the mud, GO AHEAD! You will be doing me a favor, 'cause I will be in the deeper WATER (NO MUD, NO ROCKS) and I will thank you for 'playing' where I DO NOT WANT TO GO! If you guys think the "triple throw down" aluminum jet boats are THAT MUCH, bring them to the REAL drag or circle races and show us!!! Way back in 85' or 86' I did a Southwind 18' 460 Ford, Berkeley, for two brothers who wanted to run a "4 day river race". The hull had short stringers, I did the hull bottom, motor, pump, place diverter, and a movable ride plate with foot control. The "plastic" drag boat came in third in one of those 4 day races. They ran against all of the 'rules of river racing', and still did well. I think they were crazy. The boat was ivory, with brown metal flake, and a lite blue pinstripe. Single carb., 460 Ford, Berkeley 'G' with moving ride plate and droop with Place Diverter. Do any of you guys remember it? How simple (or tough) can "rock racing be?"

[canuck1]

I thought the guy wanted to go from jet drive to V- drive, why all the bashing? If you guys want to bang around on the rocks, bust up your equipment, and play in the mud, GO AHEAD! You will be doing me a favor, 'cause I will be in the deeper WATER (NO MUD, NO ROCKS) and I will thank you for 'playing' where I DO NOT WANT TO GO! If you guys think the "triple throw down" aluminum jet boats are THAT MUCH, bring them to the REAL drag or circle races and show us!!! Way back in 85' or 86' I did a Southwind 18' 460 Ford, Berkeley, for two brothers who wanted to run a "4 day river race". The hull had short stringers, I did the hull bottom, motor, pump, place diverter, and a movable ride plate with foot control. The "plastic" drag boat came in third in one of those 4 day races. They ran against all of the 'rules of river racing', and still did well. I think they were crazy. The boat was ivory, with brown metal flake, and a lite blue pinstripe. Single carb., 460 Ford, Berkeley 'G' with moving ride plate and droop with Place Diverter. Do any of you guys remember it? How simple (or tough) can "rock racing be?"
Back in those days there were alot of glass boats running and the speeds were 40 mph or more less than todays. what was fast in 85/6 isn't now.....drag racing is the same

[canuck1]

Has anybody caught any footage of those jet boats I think from Australia or something that run those little short course 1 pin obstical deals. I saw a reality show where one lost steering & wound up on shore & on spectators... I was stunned at how quik & tight turning those things were... White water jets are quite impressive plain & simple...
Sprint boats. myself, alum squirt and bottom feeder have them

[El Prosecutor]

....all jets are not from the 70's, have 455's, are made from fiberglass, or have pump problems....
Now you had to go and get personal . . .
My boat fits that description to a tee, and I STILL love her!
And she's SLOW too!
I do feel the love though - deep down inside we all feel the magic of boats in one way or another, or we wouldn't be up in the middle of the night typing about 'em.
Keep posting!! :)

[Rampager]

You'd have to be insane to run a glass boat in any river race that ive seen. I know there were wome shots of guys down in Mexico that did that in the 80's but I assume they did that becuase they had no other choice.
Don't think a glasshull would fare that long in the races Ive seen but hey try it if you think its 'that easy'
Ive hit rocks at 50 mph+ and cannot fathom what they would feel like at 105+ or whatever speeds the marathon boats are doing now.
Here is a few pics of what my hull looked like when I bought it and this was from WATER, tell me a glass boat would have lived thru this hit........http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2237.0;attach=3202 ;image
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2237.0;attach=3203 ;image
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2237.0;attach=3204 ;image
And the biggest advantage to aluminum hulls......... :) :)
http://www.nzjetboating.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2237.0;attach=3304 ;image
Cheers
p.s. Big, what came first and 2nd and by how much??? :rollside:

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Dang. this tread is stoopid,,,,,
caint beleive I jest read it.
jets r fer homos. end of the storey.
If you dont know that by now, aint worth esplainin,,,,
First of all, you are a homo!!! I think you failed hooked on phonics. I cant believe that a rookie like yourself could come out of the gates talking $hit like that! Un*ucking believable. Whatever your smoking, pass it back to whoever gave it to you because you obviously dont need anymore.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Morg]

First of all, you are a homo!!! I think you failed hooked on phonics. I cant believe that a rookie like yourself could come out of the gates talking $hit like that! Un*ucking believable. Whatever your smoking, pass it back to whoever gave it to you because you obviously dont need anymore.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What are you new??? :) :argue: :)

[Kurtis500]

Wow.. this crap belongs in bench racers. :rolleyes:

[wsuwrhr]

Wow.. this crap belongs in bench racers. :rolleyes:
Hey where you been?
Hows the arm?
Brian

[MAXIMUS]

Sprint boats. myself, alum squirt and bottom feeder have them
Definitly impressive pieces of equipment... Nads the size of bowling balls to drive competitively... Of course Jerry could handle that after his huge career... :)

[bigkatboat]

"MR CANUCK1" I'm happy that 'your sport' has made progress in the last twenty years, but "way back then" there was ONE FIBERGLASS BOAT in this four day race. I don't follow your racing and I won't try to compete with your knowledge of the sport. I will however say that "way back then" their 3rd place finish was an average in the low 60's (MPH). You may be going over 100 MPH now, but I equate 'your racing' to the small track 'figure 8 races' (they use junk automobiles) and I guess I don't understand why you would spend all of that money and time to go out and 'hit a rock'. Even off- road (moto, truck, auto) racers can see what they are racing over. There are so many things that can go wrong while racing, I don't understand why you CHOOSE to boat race under such unsafe conditions. I guess the old saying is very true, "there's an azz for every seat". Yes the Dana 19' will make a nice V- drive, with the correct amount of power!

[bigkatboat]

"Mr Rampager", racing "on the rocks", is no more difficult than standing near an archery target! Both require the same 'mental history' and both apear insane to the "outsider". PS, yes I'm sure that it took some 'real talent' to get a fiberglass boat "to live" and to be competitive, in a four day race. Yep! The drag boats are the same, NO ROCKS, NO SPEED BUMPS on the course. That makes it "real easy" for the racers.

[Rampager]

Well as I stated earlier some people in this thread have no clue what they are talking about.
I have yet to make any bold statements about vdrives mainly because my experience with them is limited. I have seen some gorgeous ones and as someone else stated if I had the money I'd love to own one, some of the rigging you guys put into your hulls is staggering. Im certain I would love a crack at stuffing some of those motors in my tinny too!
That said I don't know of too many forms of racing that don't bring with them some form of calculated risk. If they didn't they would not be as exciting to do/watch as they are!
Marathon unlimited boats( as well as A class and B class) these days are going (well) over 100 MPH and if you think thats "stupidity' then so be it, thats your opinion. I happen to think its likely one of the most spectacular forms of racing around from many aspects not the least of which include driver skill, technology of equipment and the scenery/landscapes in which the races take place. Its not easy to get a 1000 HP motor to live spinning a pump thats loading and unloading in whitewater and doing so for hours at a time often for 4-5 days in a row. You don't go out looking to hit rocks and hopefully your skill and ability will allow you to avoid that unfortunat event but I don't think nascar/F1/Cart etc drivers go out looking to run into other cars either! Despite what you may think you can learn to "read" the river and this is probably one of the biggest and hardest skills to develop. Sometimes you can "see" submerged rocks etc if you know what to look for.
I know I have spoken to marathon jetboat racers who have raced cars, bikes, you name it, nothing they say compares to running a whitewater jetboat at speed in a technical river. "our" sport has safety concerns like any and they address those by governing the same way any other sport does. To say jetboats that river race are the equivilant of circle track "junk automobiles" is just an ignorant statement. Many of the motors in marathon boats would not look out of place in a prostock car yet are running for hours not minutes. Spencer King is a great example with 6 world championships running the 600 inch SVO motor making 975ish HP RELIABLY, thats why they call the races marathons. If thats the equivilent of a junkyard auto then well I dunno what to say to you. Here is a "A" class motor for sale:
http://www.outlaweagle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=160
looks pretty "junkyard" technology to me :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Racers chose to race for the challenge of it, thats the basis of racing, being faster at something that maybe not everyone can do. If you think its stupid and are too scared to race the river than thats fine, you won't be alone and thats what makes the sport exciting to watch for so many. I read once that it is a fairly elite crowd of individuals worldwide that have run major rapids in a boat at high speeds. Im sure there is a reason for that!
I could care less if you don't understand "our" sport or have no interest in shallow water boating but don't go making bold statements about something you know nothing about.
Incidentally to the guy who made the statements initially about running shallow water with a prop perhaps a quick veiw of the transoms in the nice a$$ thread compared to the pic in my avatar will give you your answer about what will fare better in the shallows, sorry no dice! Just how deep does the prop/rudder penetrate on a v ddrive when its sittiing still anyway?
Im going back to just jets now, sorry if I have offended anyone over here in the vdrive section, keep on boating guys, you have some cool rigs
Cheers
p.s. my 21' Eagle tunnel with 4 seats in it and a shot aluminum impeller and a STOCK '78 ford van 460(I mean all internally stock with MSD and carb/intake) stock berk pump/nozzel, fixed trim pulled 70.3 mph on GPS. Averaging 60 mph doesn't impress me much, what finished ahead of it and by how much?

[bottom feeder]

I thought the guy wanted to go from jet drive to V- drive, why all the bashing? If you guys want to bang around on the rocks, bust up your equipment, and play in the mud, GO AHEAD! You will be doing me a favor, 'cause I will be in the deeper WATER (NO MUD, NO ROCKS) and I will thank you for 'playing' where I DO NOT WANT TO GO! If you guys think the "triple throw down" aluminum jet boats are THAT MUCH, bring them to the REAL drag or circle races and show us!!! Way back in 85' or 86' I did a Southwind 18' 460 Ford, Berkeley, for two brothers who wanted to run a "4 day river race". The hull had short stringers, I did the hull bottom, motor, pump, place diverter, and a movable ride plate with foot control. The "plastic" drag boat came in third in one of those 4 day races. They ran against all of the 'rules of river racing', and still did well. I think they were crazy. The boat was ivory, with brown metal flake, and a lite blue pinstripe. Single carb., 460 Ford, Berkeley 'G' with moving ride plate and droop with Place Diverter. Do any of you guys remember it? How simple (or tough) can "rock racing be?"
bigkatboat,
I belive the race you set the boat up for may have been the Payette River Race. Contrary to what you may belive racing aluminum boats is not a smash up derby or figure eight race. It is much the same as all other boat racing. I feel if you look at the history of boat racing you will find that the most successful racers are the ones that can read the water the best. In most all aluminum boat races their are vary few accidents. The aluminum hull just makes them much safer. Thanks for you support. Hope to see you in Burly maby.

[RUSSO]

4 PAGES AND NOT ONE OFFER...MAN... :rollside:

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

What are you new??? :) :argue: :)
Appearantly 4 months older than you :) :) :) :) :argue: :crossx:

[Squirtin Thunder]

Deep Water (http://www.outlaweagle.com/cmpTomcatShoal1.wmv)

[old rigger]

I know there were wome shots of guys down in Mexico that did that in the 80's but I assume they did that becuase they had no other choice.
Don't think a glasshull would fare that long in the races Ive seen but hey try it if you think its 'that easy'
Hey rampager,
I remember those mexico racers. I was at Rogers then and we had some rich mexican dude that bought a new hull every year, and all his old boats from the previous years, he kept in a big pile on his property.
The last one we did for him we inserted the mold, strakes and all, and then had a big 1/4 thick skin welded up and bolted it in place. Went from the transom forward about 7 or 8 feet. It was a lot of work but I think it worked pretty well. From what I remember, that hull lasted 2 years. lol
I can't imagine the beating those glass hulls took back then.

[bottom feeder]

Glass in the ruff?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/15011987-med.jpg
This was in the mid 80'S

[GofastRacer]

That looks like fun no matter what kind of boat your in!.. :cool:

[Rampager]

Crap bottom is that a daytona or something? lol
I need to see more pics like that haha
Who saved the one the guy from mexico posted of him and his father/brothers racing where the hull is cracked almost in half thru the transom and side deck etc??? Looked like a typical california style hull, certainly not something I'd run thru rapids etc!
Cheers

[RUSSO]

Yup..looks Like I Am Back In The Game...c'on

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Deep Water (http://www.outlaweagle.com/cmpTomcatShoal1.wmv)
That is classic jim;) I know props CANT do that!!! :) :) :)