Eliminator or DCB

[Phat_Kat]

Ok this is probably an answerable question but which is the better performing boat? Daytona 30 or F-29? I'm sure a lot of you will bark DCB till you jaws fall off but I did a little # comparison and I think the daytona is faster. Why you ask, I'll explain. Correct me if I'm wrong but charley has a little over 1300 ponies under the hatch and he's pulling about 125 consistantly. the 30 can go around 105 consistantly with about 850 ponies. Maybe up at 1000+ HP range the #'s even out but it sounds like the eliminator is more efficient. Also a price comparison! What do they run on average for pretty much the same setup?

[Daytona]

I would say the 30 Daytona. I have a 36 Daytona with 1000's running 138.

[Phat_Kat]

Daytona:
I would say the 30 Daytona. I have a 36 Daytona with 1000's running 138. I know it's rude to ask people this stuff but what did it cost you for that thing?

[riverliver]

Phat_Kat:
Daytona:
I would say the 30 Daytona. I have a 36 Daytona with 1000's running 138. I know it's rude to ask people this stuff but what did it cost you for that thing? Just add some zeros to the size of the boat jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop

[Jrocket]

Daytona:
I would say the 30 Daytona. I have a 36 Daytona with 1000's running 138. Hey Daytona...Hows the boat running? When are you going to put up some pics of that awesome ride of yours?
I dont think you can do any comparing of the two boats just yet.Considering theres only one DCB out as of now..... :D

[mbrown2]

I say until both boats run the same HP, you cannot tell. Extrapolation is one thing, but its a flawed analysis..
It does not matter since this thread will probably turn into a my cats better thread anyway...

[Jrocket]

mbrown2:
Extrapolation
It does not matter since this thread will probably turn into a my cats better thread anyway... Your probably right!!! :D
Whats with the big words there Skippy?

[Phat_Kat]

Well my definition of performance is different than most. I don't care if a boat is 10 mph slower than another one. If is can turn faster and remain more consistant with high speeds(100+) it's a better boat.

[Charley]

YA that would be like stating that Daves 34 runs 140 with Teague 800's...Thats not the same power either wink Touche and PS i'm looking for an article right now :D

[mbrown2]

Jrocket:
mbrown2:
Extrapolation
Whats with the big words there Skippy? Got a new dicktionary, and my wife won't let me use any of the big words on her, so I had to find an outlet somewhere.. :D

[dcb carrera]

mbrown2, I can't figure out what your avitar is. I think I'm losing it :confused:

[Phat_Kat]

Charley:
YA that would be like stating that Daves 34 runs 140 with Teague 800's...Thats not the same power either wink Touche and PS i'm looking for an article right now :D that confused me a bit. maybe I'm just tired. Does anyone know where I could get ahold of a ***boat editor or something. I'd like to run it by them that they should go through each size class of performance boats. I'd like to see these builders get a good smack in the face for their flaws. I mean every last detail that is wrong should be picked at. You may say this is unfare after all their hard work but it's good for the industry. That may sound nuts but look at the gaming industry! Game reviewers will humiliate the crap out of a developer if they screw up and look whats happening with games. Go to google image search and type in "half life 2" or "doom 3" and you'll see how far we've come in the last 4 years. It's amazing now days even to guys who do the stuff like me. I think it's good for the consumer and designers of the boats to have this mental bashing.

[Jrocket]

Those big words make me think too much...Headaches and all..... :D

[mbrown2]

dcb/carrera:
mbrown2, I can't figure out what your avitar is. I think I'm losing it :confused: Its the F from the apparel company Famous (ie: Stars & Straps)...
[ June 09, 2003, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: mbrown2 ]

[Daytona]

Phat_Kat: Out the door around $350,000. First cat that I have own and love it.

[Charley]

here is my point Phatcat
TEST RESULTS 28 Daytona LP
Centerline 28'6"
Beam 9'
Weight as tested 6,100 pounds
Price as tested $177,955
Engine (2) Teague Custom Marine 509
Max prop horsepower at rpm 620
Propeller Mercury Bravo One 15 1/4" x 34" lab-finished
Acceleration Zero to 15 seconds 75 mph
Top Speed at rpm Stalker Radar 114.5 mph at 5600
Thats a 2'shorter boat running same horsepower as my boat and 10 mph slower....
I also remember a 30 Daytona with twin 700HP 572's only running around 110...anyone remember that one yellow motors,same paint as my 26??
anyways I'm not trying to say anything bad about those boats...in fact they are both totally bitchen but this what I will say... every boat is different...Set up means alot and horsepower ISN'T a black and white number. you cant plug in a formula...especially with the huge difference comparisons your making!
[ June 09, 2003, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Charley ]

[mbrown2]

Charley:
here is my point Phatcat
TEST RESULTS 28 Daytona LP
Centerline 28'6"
Thats a 2'shorter boat ??? What length is yours? do you mean 2"'s; are you trying to add size again. :D

[boatnam2]

my personal opinion is if you got a 29 dcb with twins or a 30ft eliminator with twins running in the 120+mph who gives a f--k which one is more efficient.you have what most guys only dream about and only a few can afford.its funny i was talking to missb the other day about the size of boats and how muchit had changed.when i attended the 1993 ultra regatta there were 100+ 21ft ultra in nautical cove and 1 23ftr and all the talk on the beach was have you looked at that 23ftr it is the shit,its huge.man the guy must be loaded he payed like 30k for it can you imagine paying that much for a boat.the guy walked around like king tuck.shit frigging thing wouldnt even be a dingy for charleys boat this day and age.things have really changed in 10 years.

[Phat_Kat]

boatnam2:
my personal opinion is if you got a 29 dcb with twins or a 30ft eliminator with twins running in the 120+mph who gives a f--k which one is more efficient.you have what most guys only dream about and only a few can afford.its funny i was talking to missb the other day about the size of boats and how muchit had changed.when i attended the 1993 ultra regatta there were 100+ 21ft ultra in nautical cove and 1 23ftr and all the talk on the beach was have you looked at that 23ftr it is the shit,its huge.man the guy must be loaded he payed like 30k for it can you imagine paying that much for a boat.the guy walked around like king tuck.shit frigging thing wouldnt even be a dingy for charleys boat this day and age.things have really changed in 10 years. Yes they have gotten a lot bigger. I've worked on a lot of larger boats and I still can't help but think "shit that thing is huge!"

[dcb carrera]

In 97 my xr202 Carrera was the shits at Naci with a 350 mag and a Bravo one. Nobody could believe I spent 36,000 out the door for it. They thought I was some high roller :D

[Jrocket]

boatnam2:
my personal opinion is if you got a 29 dcb with twins or a 30ft eliminator with twins running in the 120+mph who gives a f--k which one is more efficient.you have what most guys only dream about and only a few can afford.its funny i was talking to missb the other day about the size of boats and how muchit had changed.when i attended the 1993 ultra regatta there were 100+ 21ft ultra in nautical cove and 1 23ftr and all the talk on the beach was have you looked at that 23ftr it is the shit,its huge.man the guy must be loaded he payed like 30k for it can you imagine paying that much for a boat.the guy walked around like king tuck.shit frigging thing wouldnt even be a dingy for charleys boat this day and age.things have really changed in 10 years. I couldnt of said it better myself...nice job Boatnam. :D

[mbrown2]

dcb/carrera:
They thought I was some high roller :D I have seen your boat, and you are a big baller, and don't let anybody tell you different :D

[boatnam2]

thanks jr coming from you that means alot to me!in 1993 i payed 21,300 out the door for my 21ft ultra with a bad ass 350 merc mag open bow.what even better than that price is i bought it from carter reed of ultimate warlock,jeff bohn i think was the parts guy there of cobra boats.at that time i dont think john west was even in the picture.small world the boating world.

[Phat_Kat]

1980 sleekcraft SST $8000 out the door and no one would even bother trying to race against it.

[dcb carrera]

That's a little different boat. When I bought the DCB I thought I was high roller. I look around now 2 years later and the DCB seems small compared to all the new stuff. Oh well wink

[mbrown2]

My first boat was 1991, 20K, bought a brand new Hi-Tech 20.6 with 200 XR4 Black Max blender...It was a Tequila Sunrise Orange fade base...it won best Gel at the Hot Boat trials that year...Boat never seemed to be setup right, but it was the shit...

[mike37]

dcb/carrera
What you doing up so late its past your bed time

[dcb carrera]

You want to go back aways. My first boat was a 18 foot Tahiti with 150 Merc. Black Mac, I paid 3700 hundred out the door they threw in a ski and ski jacket.It was boat store in Simi I can't remember the name. It was a great boat.

[boatnam2]

my first new boat was in 1988 i bought a brand new 18ft glastron 4.3 merc.skied my ass off behind it.then in 1990 i bought a brand new 20ft avenger with a 200 black max whew i was rolling then.then the coupe degra a 21ft ulra custom boat everthing picked from colors to the trailer,i was in the big leauge now.

[dcb carrera]

I forgot it was 1974.

[Craig]

28, 29, 30 feet, the hell with you guys :D I can't even look at those. You guys with the 25 and 26 footers make me envious :)
Craig
[ June 09, 2003, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Craig ]

[boatnam2]

my first boat back in the early 80's was a 18ft starcraft elvis presely model with a 1964 johnson 60 or 80 electric shift sea horse i believe it was called.friigin piece of shit left me stranded more times than i can remember.cut my teeth on that boat and i was hooked forever.

[Havasu Hangin']

Craig:
28, 29, 30 feet, the hell with you guys :D I can't even look at those. You guys with the 25 and 26 footers make me envious...I heard that.
Craig- these guys don't realize it's not the size, but how you use it...

[Havasu Hangin']

boatnam2:
...a 18ft starcraft elvis presely model with a 1964 johnson 60 or 80 electric shift sea horse i believe it was called.friigin piece of shit left me stranded more times than i can remember...Man, old timer...did you tow that thing with a covered wagon? http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/confused/confused17.gif

[dcb carrera]

HH, thats funny :D Mike 37 it is past my bedtime

[77charger]

It looks like boatnam is showing his age with all these boat purchases :D I havent bought new but have stepped up to a 21 ft elim(all i can afford at the moment).I f i had the dough to buy a cat it would be a 25-26 elim or dcb whichever has the better deal.for now the closest thing to a tunnel that i drive is a runner bottom flat(5/8th tunnels) :D that will out accelerate any cat ownwed by anyone here! :)
From the looks of things everyone goes thru multiple boats before they get their "dream boat"

[mbrown2]

77charger:
From the looks of things everyone goes thru multiple boats before they get their "dream boat" Just like homes, you eventually get the one you dream of, until you need a little more space.. :)

[andy01]

I will say the same as always! DCB, oh I mean what ever boat you like. Skinny said it best, if you are in a 29 or 30 running 120+++ then who cares. I really like DCB and the people that work there. They are by far the best boat builder I have ever delt with! GT is the best rigging company I have ever delt with, both companies see a hell of a lot more money then mine every day but both treated me like I was a king! I tried to buy a Daytona 3 time in four years. I will never buy a Daytona EVER! They treated me like a kid with no money every time I walked in the door. So if the Daytona was 15 mph faster thena DCB and 20K less I would still buy the DCB!!! Service has no price.
My first boat was a 1995 Scarab 22', 21 years old and I thought I was in the "Big Boat" league driving that thing around Long Beach, Newport and Havasu! Shit today I feel like my 26' is small next to a lot of boats.
Andy

[riverliver]

racingrascal:
I will say the same as always! DCB, oh I mean what ever boat you like. Skinny said it best, if you are in a 29 or 30 running 120+++ then who cares. I really like DCB and the people that work there. They are by far the best boat builder I have ever delt with! GT is the best rigging company I have ever delt with, both companies see a hell of a lot more money then mine every day but both treated me like I was a king! I tried to buy a Daytona 3 time in four years. I will never buy a Daytona EVER! They treated me like a kid with no money every time I walked in the door. So if the Daytona was 15 mph faster thena DCB and 20K less I would still buy the DCB!!! Service has no price.
My first boat was a 1995 Scarab 22', 21 years old and I thought I was in the "Big Boat" league driving that thing around Long Beach, Newport and Havasu! Shit today I feel like my 26' is small next to a lot of boats.
Andy RR are you bashing Daytona's agian, time to give you another spankin !!!!!! J/K LOL
cry

[Daytona]

Lets try agian
[ June 10, 2003, 07:14 PM: Message edited by: Daytona ]

[Taylor E. Fernsten]

I just bought a F-29 with twin 525's, I know that charley is faster but dave is hoping 120, which means it will run 115 all weekend, with a warrenty. If you met the guys a dave's like carlos and chad who are just two of the many quality works who are their you would get a DCB. If you have to choose I do not want you in the DCB family.