The media lied. Miners died.

[HighRoller]

Where are the apologies from the media outlets about running the "miners alive" story when it was unconfirmed? They are all hiding and justifying their irresponsible tactics by claiming they were given "bad information". Hmm. That excuse didn't work for Bush, but now they want a pass? What a bunch of hypocrits. In typical media fashion, they have chosen to deflect the blame by coming down on the mining company like a ton of bricks for not "correcting" the facts for three hours. Excuse me, but the mining company was not responsible for spreading the rumor....

[Rexone]

Media sucks. It's all about breaking the story first so the ad dollars flow. They could care less about accuracy if they can get away with a big break and blame it on someone else if it proves false.
Even worse is their "selective" reporting on issues such as Iraq. Body counts are big headlines daily. None of the + stuff is ever heard about for the most part. Ask a soldier if you want the truth about what's happening in Iraq.

[Blown 472]

Where are the apologies from the media outlets about running the "miners alive" story when it was unconfirmed? They are all hiding and justifying their irresponsible tactics by claiming they were given "bad information". Hmm. That excuse didn't work for Bush, but now they want a pass? What a bunch of hypocrits. In typical media fashion, they have chosen to deflect the blame by coming down on the mining company like a ton of bricks for not "correcting" the facts for three hours. Excuse me, but the mining company was not responsible for spreading the rumor....
So the media killed them? pretty lame there. :rolleyes:

[OutCole'd]

I agree, the media is biased & sucks ass, but I believe the families heard from the people in charge of the search & rescue during a briefing, not from the media.
If I was given the wrong information, I can deal with it. I feel for the families that were put through absolute hell.

[Steve 1]

The blame rests with Hatfield Too he should of stopped it ! When you are a Boss or Owner that is your job like it or not!

[HighRoller]

So the media killed them? pretty lame there. :rolleyes:
Yet another weak attempt to misdirect what I was saying into something stupid. Well, Blown, you are the king of all things stupid. Gotta hand it to you. You better get going now. I'm sure CodePink is having an online hourly "BushLied" vigil/circle jerk you have to attend.

[Old Texan]

So the media killed them? pretty lame there. :rolleyes:
Missed the point again, for whatever your reason. :rolleyes: Media killed no one, just caused a lot of souls added grief in the time of suffering for their loved ones welfare.
But I suppose we need to let them slide as it's their "right" to free speech. If the media would learn the difference between "free speech" and "responsible speech" our world would be a far better place. Unfortunately they have no spines and travel irresponsibly further down the food chain, sucking up more slime and burning more valuable air.

[Old Texan]

I agree, the media is biased & sucks ass, but I believe the families heard from the people in charge of the search & rescue during a briefing, not from the media.
If I was given the wrong information, I can deal with it. I feel for the families that were put through absolute hell.
I have heard someone overheard one side of a phone coversation, made some wrong assumptions, and false hopes spread like wildfire.

[Blown 472]

Yet another weak attempt to misdirect what I was saying into something stupid. Well, Blown, you are the king of all things stupid. Gotta hand it to you. You better get going now. I'm sure CodePink is having an online hourly "BushLied" vigil/circle jerk you have to attend.
Yup, rather then pulling at straws for a this??

[HighRoller]

Go grab a dictionary and a thesaurus and head to Manuel's house so you can help him pump out some more political fiction. That's funny shyt he writes. Very entertaining. Like a 5 year old telling a story about OZ.

[HM]

Luckily, the families directly involved knew what was really going on.
I think it is good that the real news did not come out for hours to show the media's true colors. Since the direct familys really did not suffer, the suffering was the general public of realizing the media sucks. Also, the reason NO information was given to the media by the people directly involved and why the media was denied access to anything even close to the mine is that this is a small town that didn't trust the media.......and the media proved why they can't be trusted.
Blown, I think you missed the point that these guys actually agreed with your views about the media, although they would never admit to agreeing with you, and would never be interested in finding out what you really believe since you serve up so much bait. Stevo won't believe that his beloved fox people are wh0res, but it works for him.
Hopefully this event will help journalism get in a direction more to what they once were. Thinks these guys will trust the AP without looking at the sources and doing their own due dilligence on stories? The media used to take AP stories as the start of their investigation, and eventually treated them as fact and ended up being the only thing they did on many stories. Since the AP obviously has shown they aren't worth a shit, now they all have to go back to work - finally.

[Steve 1]

Wrong gee I was watching the guy who owned the mine!! Next nice piece of misinform!!

[SmokinLowriderSS]

So the media killed them? pretty lame there. :rolleyes:
No, try "One of the more dangerous jobs in America killed them" .... but already several whack-jobs are blaming the Pres! Gezzzzzzzzzz!

[HM]

Wrong gee I was watching the guy who owned the mine!! Next nice piece of misinform!!
The owner is appologizing, but again, all the media's info was from an over heard statement of someone who was not an official nor a direct family member. I personally wouldn't appologize for crap, but that is me. I'd taken the milk crate would have said the media should be ashamed of themselves.

[Steve 1]

The owner is appologizing, but again, all the media's info was from an over heard statement of someone who was not an official nor a direct family member. I personally wouldn't appologize for crap, but that is me. I'd taken the milk crate would have said the media should be ashamed of themselves.
What the hell are you talking about first it was Ann Coulter in the mine spreading rumors now what Bush blew up the mine ?? Answer this what caused the church bells to ring?? I know Rove did that!!

[tcook33]

Why is it the medias fault? Is evryone here assuming that the media made unfair assumptions? Does anyone have proof that the media leaked an untrue story without evidence to back it up? I know the media is a joke MOST of the time, but come on.....are these fair assumptions?
Maybe....just maybe...an official made the mistake and the media ran with it......I don't know the facts and I doubt anyone here does. Just adding my .02

[HM]

What the hell are you talking about first it was Ann Coulter in the mine spreading rumors now what Bush blew up the mine ?? Answer this what caused the church bells to ring?? I know Rove did that!!
Really bud, try subscribing to some reality. Turn off the t.v., have an original thought, and stop drinking the koolaid. You are off the charts on the lunatic scale. No wonder blown has made you his sex slave.
Steve, it is really you that has destroyed these forums. I know, it is the truth, and it doesn't help you, so you are not interested. Anyone that disagrees with you is instantly a commie pinko. I am more conservative that you will ever be, have deep rooted family values and ethics that you would never understand, and I have a free mind. Just because I don't tow the party line when they are OBVIOUSLY focking up and doing more to move the liberal agenda forward, does not make me a bush hater or anything else. Never mind me, I go against the lemmin....I mean crowd.

[Steve 1]

Really bud, try subscribing to some reality. Turn off the t.v., have an original thought, and stop drinking the koolaid. You are off the charts on the lunatic scale. No wonder blown has made you his sex slave.
Steve, it is really you that has destroyed these forums.
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No people like Canuck Arizona Hot Boat and baby called Susan started pissing them up the evidence is there GO look at it!! You can turn the other cheek I never will.
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I know, it is the truth, and it doesn't help you, so you are not interested. Anyone that disagrees with you is instantly a commie pinko. I am more conservative that you will ever be, have deep rooted family values and ethics that you would never understand,
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I Really doubt that my family has been here a very long and proud time we fought in every war this country ever had!! Sorry I have spent a great deal of my life with my nose in engineering handbooks and technical papers That’s why I laugh at the lefties and their silly little lies FOR you see I can’t make a mistake in my business and I am a good judge of people also BTW a scumbag Liberal professor of economics can be wrong his whole rent control apartment seeking career/life and keep his job see the difference?? That’s why I do not and never will respect them Those of us living/dealing in/with the real world have a different set of values..
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and I have a free mind. Just because I don't tow the party line when they are OBVIOUSLY focking up and doing more to move the liberal agenda forward, does not make me a bush hater or anything else. Never mind me, I go against the lemmin....I mean crowd.
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I tow no party line (you know I have not heard one worthy excuse to be a liberal NOT ONE) except when I see my Country trashed by Idiots that is where the line is in the sand. I am not going into my business but I have done my share to protect it. Let’s stop there, Now is time to have some fun again I really love Boats being from Miami and it’s my job also.
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[Seadog]

On the original subject, Yes there were mistakes made, but the problem is that nobody in authority could confirm anything as fact. In trying to be accurate, they took too long and people suffered. It would have been the same effect, whether it was three minutes or three hours. Rumors are often cruel and this is what happened. They found the miners and as the word got out from the mine, it got distorted.

[HighRoller]

The problem is the media's willingness to run with "unconfirmed" stories. They apparently don't realize that "unconfirmed story" is a fancy term for rumor. Just ask Dan Rather....Some of you are missing the point of this thread, which is to draw parallels to the whole "Bush lied" mantra perpetuated by those in the media. It would take me no time at all to compile facts from credible sources that blow their claims out of the water. Surely they have access to the same facts, yet they choose to ignore them.
In this case, they weren't guilty of ignoring facts. They just didn't have any facts or corroboration to back up their story. In my opinion, this treads dangerously close to a violation of the First Amendment. In this case no harm was done because their erroneous reporting did not affect the outcome or do further harm. But what would happen if the media reported an "unconfirmed" story that a terrorist was running around Manhattan with a nuke in his backpack? It would make yelling "Fire" in a movie theater look like child's play.
Somebody said that this case would make the media take a closer look at their reporting methods and/or standards. I doubt it. Look at the whole scandal with Dan Rather and Mary Mapes over the forged Nat'l Guard documents. These two still maintain to this day that the story was true!!

[Old Texan]

The problem is the media's willingness to run with "unconfirmed" stories. They apparently don't realize that "unconfirmed story" is a fancy term for rumor. Just ask Dan Rather....Some of you are missing the point of this thread, which is to draw parallels to the whole "Bush lied" mantra perpetuated by those in the media. It would take me no time at all to compile facts from credible sources that blow their claims out of the water. Surely they have access to the same facts, yet they choose to ignore them.
In this case, they weren't guilty of ignoring facts. They just didn't have any facts or corroboration to back up their story. In my opinion, this treads dangerously close to a violation of the First Amendment. In this case no harm was done because their erroneous reporting did not affect the outcome or do further harm. But what would happen if the media reported an "unconfirmed" story that a terrorist was running around Manhattan with a nuke in his backpack? It would make yelling "Fire" in a movie theater look like child's play.
Somebody said that this case would make the media take a closer look at their reporting methods and/or standards. I doubt it. Look at the whole scandal with Dan Rather and Mary Mapes over the forged Nat'l Guard documents. These two still maintain to this day that the story was true!!
They got caught redhanded this time by a national audience. They had no time for damage control or denial.
Did they learn anything? Only time will tell, but I too have my doubts. These people have an arrogance beyond belief, Rather and Mapes as mentioned prove it.

[Sleek-Jet]

They got caught redhanded this time by a national audience. They had no time for damage control or denial.
Did they learn anything? Only time will tell, but I too have my doubts. These people have an arrogance beyond belief, Rather and Mapes as mentioned prove it.
This time??? I remember when the Democratic nominee was declared the victor in the 2000 Presidential Election with 1 state having reported it's poll results...
They haven't learned anything in the last 6 years, why would they now. Anything sensational is fair game, truthfull or not.

[HighRoller]

I predict that in the 2008 Presidential election the media will declare Hilary the winner before the polls even open. And even if the opponent wins by 20 points they'll insist she won. They'll demand a recount. The Dems will sue every state that didn't declare her a winner. 2000 and 2004 were just dress rehearsals for Hilary's turn. The Dems are looking for a way to win an election even when they lose. They came close to stealing it in 2000.