For all you guys with tunnels that go to Havasu, please respond!! [Archive]

Boatjob26

06-10-2003, 08:50 PM

Alright guys, this is the moment to truth for ya....Whenever I see threads about "how fast have you gone in your boat" I always chuckle because it's always followed by, ""I ran out of prop," or "this was with 1/2 tank of gas and four people" etc.. It seems to be that there aren't many boats out at Havasu during the hot weekends that due indeed run at the numbers that their owners say they do. Maybe they run 110mph in the winter with 1 person and no gas....But what's the point of saying that when you're at havasu all summer??? For example a buddy of mine has a Mach 26 with a blown Teague 509, and at this time of year under "normal" conditions he only runs between 90-95mph max.
From this, I'd like to see what boat/power etc. you're running and what speeds you KNOW that your boat will run in the 110 degree Havasu heat under these "normal" conditions. (ie., more than 1 person in the boat, and with the normal gear in the boat.) Thanks guys, I'm just using this for comparison with our boat...To see if Outboards do run that much faster in the HAvasu summer heat.

jm2drvr

06-10-2003, 09:56 PM

top speed last weekend 106, a few months ago 109.5 same amount of people same gas load. twin 300x

FastTimmy

06-10-2003, 10:32 PM

I will let you know after this weekend! :D

Jrocket

06-11-2003, 01:39 AM

My DCB Mach26 is about the same,no matter what the weather.80-83...When the boat is full of people and gas it runs about 78-80,when its full of gas and 2-3 peeps in it 80-83.Weather doesnt bother it too much,but fat ass friends in the back do..... :D

Sandbar Mike

06-11-2003, 05:57 AM

Force 29, last weekend we had 9 passengers and full tanks, best I saw was 84 on tattle tale GPS.
natural aspirated 540.

THOR

06-11-2003, 06:21 AM

That is impressive Mike. Really. 83 with 9 people and I assume coolers and stuff in a 29' boat. Bitchin! :cool:

Havasu Cig

06-11-2003, 07:03 AM

2000 Mach 26, twin 280 hp 2.5's ran 106 in the winter, 95 in the heat of the summer.
2001 Mach 26 blown 510 ran 105 in cooler weather, right around 100 in the summer.
The I/O was not effected by weight as much as the O/B's.
BTW, The Cig with the 500 EFI's does not seem to be affected by the heat much at all. I only loose at the most a couple miles an hour. :confused:
[ June 11, 2003, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Havasu Cig ]

Donnie

06-11-2003, 07:41 AM

25 Daytona...888hp...109 in the winter and 102-103 summer :D

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 09:01 AM

Last weekend my 28 Warlock with 3 guys, 80 gal. fuel, N/A 625hp/540ci. 32 pitch bravo one ran 91mph. :D :D :D

Craig

06-11-2003, 09:22 AM

Advantage Sportcat
115 in December
108 in July
Same set up

Havasu Cig

06-11-2003, 09:27 AM

Warlock28:
Last weekend my 28 Warlock with 3 guys, 80 gal. fuel, N/A 625hp/540ci. 32 pitch bravo one ran 91mph. :D :D :D That is a good # for only 625 hp. I am suprised you can turn a 32 with that hp, even with 1.50's.

FASTERDAMITT

06-11-2003, 09:32 AM

Last weekend. 105+ deg temp.,Flat water :( in parker.
American Offshore 26 454 Procharged 650-700hp
1 person 102 mph
2 person 99 mph
5 person 94 mph
Have not tested in cool weather with current set-up. :cool:

Sandbar Mike

06-11-2003, 11:26 AM

Warlock28:
Last weekend my 28 Warlock with 3 guys, 80 gal. fuel, N/A 625hp/540ci. 32 pitch bravo one ran 91mph. :D :D :D Those are great #'s, How longs it taking you to plane with that setup? I'm running a 26P, was told I couldn't turn a 28 or 30 with 650HP/?

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 11:33 AM

Havasu Cig:
Warlock28:
Last weekend my 28 Warlock with 3 guys, 80 gal. fuel, N/A 625hp/540ci. 32 pitch bravo one ran 91mph. :D :D :D That is a good # for only 625 hp. I am suprised you can turn a 32 with that hp, even with 1.50's. Was a very good weekend!! Warlock thinks I should pull a couple more mph if I feed it some more trim or when the weather cools off. We will see. It was only the fourth time on the water.

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 11:40 AM

Sandbar Mike:
Warlock28:
Last weekend my 28 Warlock with 3 guys, 80 gal. fuel, N/A 625hp/540ci. 32 pitch bravo one ran 91mph. :D :D :D Those are great #'s, How longs it taking you to plane with that setup? I'm running a 26P, was told I couldn't turn a 28 or 30 with 650HP/? Almost bought the 29 Force nice boat. With six people in the boat it is a bitch getting on plane, but with three not a problem just get's up and goes(a little slow out of the hole but once on plane pulls hard). Considering a 30 when the boat is loaded.

Mr.Havasu

06-11-2003, 11:40 AM

I dunno yet :confused:
I have a 28' warlock SXT running twin 580cu.in w/1071 mooneyham blowers. Stelling standoff boxes, brovo one drives.
Bought it in Dec. and had to rebuild both motors, should be done for OP6V.
What do you think?
[ June 11, 2003, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: warlock25 ]

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 11:44 AM

FASTERDAMITT:
Last weekend. 105+ deg temp.,Flat water :( in parker.
American Offshore 26 454 Procharged 650-700hp
1 person 102 mph
2 person 99 mph
5 person 94 mph
Have not tested in cool weather with current set-up. :cool: Is your AO all white?

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 11:47 AM

warlock25:
I dunno yet :confused:
I have a 28' warlock SXT running twin 580cu.in w/1071 mooneyham blowers. Stelling standoff boxes, brovo one drives.
Bought it in Dec. and had to rebuild both motors, should be done for OP6V.
What do you think? Very, Very Fast!!

Mr.Havasu

06-11-2003, 11:55 AM

I think so too!
Maybe around 130

STV_Keith

06-11-2003, 11:58 AM

About a month ago in Havasu, 96.2mph. 19' STV Tunnel w/Merc 240hp 2.4l (142ci).
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/108boat-animate1s-fast.gif
[ June 14, 2003, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: STV_Keith ]

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 12:02 PM

warlock25:
I think so too!
Maybe around 130 130 would be a good number, good luck!!

Mr.Havasu

06-11-2003, 12:23 PM

Either way, I really don't care what the top number is.. As long as I can run around 100 I'm happy :D

Sandbar Mike

06-11-2003, 12:54 PM

THOR:
That is impressive Mike. Really. 83 with 9 people and I assume coolers and stuff in a 29' boat. Bitchin! :cool: Thor,
I'm suprised myself, She loves to run.
See you at OP6

FASTERDAMITT

06-11-2003, 02:18 PM

Warlock28:
FASTERDAMITT:
Last weekend. 105+ deg temp.,Flat water :( in parker.
American Offshore 26 454 Procharged 650-700hp
1 person 102 mph
2 person 99 mph
5 person 94 mph
Have not tested in cool weather with current set-up. :cool: Is your AO all white? All white no logo's or blower scoop. Link right below.

Skullinator

06-11-2003, 02:45 PM

3 people 3/4 tanks 3 ice chest and gear 88 mph in 105 + Temp's. 490 Horse power 525sc in 25 foot Talon 30 pitch prop 1.5 gears :) :) :)

Warlock28

06-11-2003, 03:15 PM

FASTERDAMITT:
Warlock28:
FASTERDAMITT:
Last weekend. 105+ deg temp.,Flat water :( in parker.
American Offshore 26 454 Procharged 650-700hp
1 person 102 mph
2 person 99 mph
5 person 94 mph
Have not tested in cool weather with current set-up. :cool: Is your AO all white? All white no logo's or blower scoop. Link right below. That was a cool run up from roadrunner last Sunday!! This is me!!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG

Boatjob26

06-11-2003, 03:41 PM

jm2drvr:
top speed last weekend 106, a few months ago 109.5 same amount of people same gas load. twin 300x I'll throw in our speeds as well, and considering that we have the same exact setup as jm2drvr our numbers are very similar. Run consistently around 104-105 any day, full load, any amount of gas....

FASTERDAMITT

06-11-2003, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Warlock28
[/qb]That was a cool run up from roadrunner last Sunday!! This is me!!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG [/QB][/QUOTE]
Ya, I remember you! I run the same prop at 5400-5500. What rpm can you turn? you probably have a little more slip than I due to the bigger boat.

SVO 540

06-11-2003, 04:29 PM

I can't answer the question because I have never held it wide open with a boat load of people. The boat is too fast and the risks are too great to hold it wide open when I am full of people. When I am loaded down with people and we are not wearing life jackets I keep it under 80 mph. After the HTM crash I have tried to make a habit of wearing a life vest any time I run over 100 mph. This includes my pasengers. I even bought myself a full competition Life Line jacket for hard core speed runs.
Before the HTM crash my now 5 year old daughter had been over 100 mph at least 10 times. After the crash she has yet to go over 100.
Anybody going over 100 should make sure all passengers are wearing a life vest. I still have my "In memory of our brothers lost" sticker on the front of my boat as a reminder of the constant danger we put ourselves and our passengers in when we get on the gas.
Sorry to sound so depressing but I thought we could all use a friendly reminder of the danger of our sport.

riverliver

06-11-2003, 04:36 PM

SVO 540:
I can't answer the question because I have never held it wide open with a boat load of people. The boat is too fast and the risks are too great to hold it wide open when I am full of people. When I am loaded down with people and we are not wearing life jackets I keep it under 80 mph. After the HTM crash I have tried to make a habit of wearing a life vest any time I run over 100 mph. This includes my pasengers. I even bought myself a full competition Life Line jacket for hard core speed runs.
Before the HTM crash my now 5 year old daughter had been over 100 mph at least 10 times. After the crash she has yet to go over 100.
Anybody going over 100 should make sure all passengers are wearing a life vest. I still have my "In memory of our brothers lost" sticker on the front of my boat as a reminder of the constant danger we put ourselves and our passengers in when we get on the gas.
Sorry to sound so depressing but I thought we could all use a friendly reminder of the danger of our sport. I take it you don't do speed runs in the dark anymore either. !!!!!!!!!!!! idea eek!

Jrocket

06-11-2003, 04:58 PM

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG
Where was this picture taken?

hulshot

06-11-2003, 09:07 PM

In the mid 80's with 4 people, cooler, close to full tanks, and a heavy stereo system, I was radared 2 times at 101, and that was only the 2nd time out with the new motor, the back of the boat was dark grey instead of white.

Warlock28

06-12-2003, 08:10 AM

FASTERDAMITT:
Originally posted by Warlock28
That was a cool run up from roadrunner last Sunday!! This is me!!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG [/QB]Ya, I remember you! I run the same prop at 5400-5500. What rpm can you turn? you probably have a little more slip than I due to the bigger boat. [/QB][/QUOTE]
You are probably right, current rpm is about 5300-5400. Warlock set the limiter at 5800 as said I should be able to reach it by feeding it a little more trim. Maybe next trip!! :D :D

Warlock28

06-12-2003, 08:12 AM

Jrocket:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG
Where was this picture taken? Rio on the California side of the strip!! :D :D

Mr.Havasu

06-12-2003, 08:57 AM

RiverDave:
warlock25:
I dunno yet :confused:
I have a 28' warlock SXT running twin 580cu.in w/1071 mooneyham blowers. Stelling standoff boxes, brovo one drives.
Bought it in Dec. and had to rebuild both motors, should be done for OP6V.
What do you think? 130 and still pullin hard. wink :D
RD That's what we expect, but it really doesn't matter, it will be plenty fast enough.
To echo SVO 540 We also will be wearing life vests over 100. Good reminder SVO. Let's all remember to use common sence out there this season.

andy01

06-12-2003, 02:37 PM

FASTERDAMITT:
Originally posted by Warlock28
That was a cool run up from roadrunner last Sunday!! This is me!!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG [/QB]Ya, I remember you! I run the same prop at 5400-5500. What rpm can you turn? you probably have a little more slip than I due to the bigger boat. [/QB][/QUOTE]
I think I pasted you on Rice Road one time pulling my boat with a Red Crew Cab. But I know I have seen this boat before in Parker!
Andy

Jrocket

06-12-2003, 03:00 PM

Warlock28:
Jrocket:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG
Where was this picture taken? Rio on the California side of the strip!! :D :D Do you stay there alot? I stay in the same park.I have friends that have places in there.Nice park and bar.Chad and his dad did a great job on the place...I usually stay right across from Shirleys place,on the corner.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/232Olivers_012-med.jpg

Warlock28

06-13-2003, 07:28 AM

racingrascal:
FASTERDAMITT:
Originally posted by Warlock28
That was a cool run up from roadrunner last Sunday!! This is me!!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG Ya, I remember you! I run the same prop at 5400-5500. What rpm can you turn? you probably have a little more slip than I due to the bigger boat. [/QB]I think I pasted you on Rice Road one time pulling my boat with a Red Crew Cab. But I know I have seen this boat before in Parker!
Andy [/QB][/QUOTE]
I think your right, I know I have seen you!! Hope to see you out on the water. :D :D :D
Jay

Warlock28

06-13-2003, 07:30 AM

Jrocket:
Warlock28:
Jrocket:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/682FXCD0004A-med.JPG
Where was this picture taken? Rio on the California side of the strip!! :D :D Do you stay there alot? I stay in the same park.I have friends that have places in there.Nice park and bar.Chad and his dad did a great job on the place...I usually stay right across from Shirleys place,on the corner.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/232Olivers_012-med.jpg We've been there a couple of years now, we are in the new section next to last row. See you out there!! :D :D :D
Jay

blown23vee

06-13-2003, 09:17 PM

SVO 540:
I can't answer the question because I have never held it wide open with a boat load of people. The boat is too fast and the risks are too great to hold it wide open when I am full of people. When I am loaded down with people and we are not wearing life jackets I keep it under 80 mph. After the HTM crash I have tried to make a habit of wearing a life vest any time I run over 100 mph. This includes my pasengers. I even bought myself a full competition Life Line jacket for hard core speed runs.
Before the HTM crash my now 5 year old daughter had been over 100 mph at least 10 times. After the crash she has yet to go over 100.
Anybody going over 100 should make sure all passengers are wearing a life vest. I still have my "In memory of our brothers lost" sticker on the front of my boat as a reminder of the constant danger we put ourselves and our passengers in when we get on the gas.
Sorry to sound so depressing but I thought we could all use a friendly reminder of the danger of our sport. Good words, SVO...we all need to take a step back
& re-evaluate once in a while...make sure we're
not f*ckin up!!

blown23vee

06-13-2003, 09:21 PM

Oh yea, the original question...
94mph (my buddy says we saw 96 but I didn't see
it...too busy watching the lake & oil gauges in
front of me!) with a 799 horse 468 w/250 B&M in
may...havn't run in cold weather yet & also have
not put it to the floor yet!!

Skullinator

06-18-2003, 10:51 AM

update 93 MPH on gps two people half tanks of gas 105 degrees 30 pitch prop 1.5 gears 490 horse power in a 25 foot Talon cat.6-15-03

FASTERDAMITT

06-18-2003, 12:06 PM

That's better Skully. Now your gettin everything out of it! I found I have to play with the trim to get the last few mph out of her. I can't use the same trim every time due to changing wind direction, load ect.. :)

Sandbar Mike

06-18-2003, 02:49 PM

Skullinator:
update 93 MPH on gps two people half tanks of gas 105 degrees 30 pitch prop 1.5 gears 490 horse power in a 25 foot Talon cat.6-15-03 Skull, Dam good numers.
Hey you and I were talking about your experience with IMCO, What did they end up doing to your drive?