Can someone give me a legit reason why....

[house]

I should not buy a boat from Martin at Orion Boats.
I had a great conversation with him a little while ago and looked over most of the 24' cat he has. Great looking boat, quality looks real good, and the seems to be one of the best.
I just want to hear positive o rnegative comments about past dealings, current owners, etc. This is about the only place to come and get so many different opinions from so many different people.
Thanks.

[djunkie]

Have you been on a test ride yet?

[atomickitn]

yep test ride.......and a life jacket :cool:

[BADBLOWN572]

Definitely test drive the boat before you place an order!!!

[riverracerx]

This is about the only place to come and get so many different opinions from so many different people.
You aren't kidding there! :rolleyes:

[djunkie]

Is there an echo in here? :crossx: :crossx:

[Not So Fast]

Short story, friend bought some offbrand 24' cat and it does ok if you dont mind taking water in the face from in between the front sponsons at about 40 mph ???. Test ride mandantory. I'm not saying anything negative about Orion, just take a test ride like everybody says! Good Luck, NSF

[burtandnancy]

And look for a little chop...

[Kilrtoy]

IF YOU LIKE THE
1: price
2:looks good to you
3: makes you happy
Then buy it, just dont under power it, 525 or bigger

[djunkie]

IF YOU LIKE THE
1: price
2:looks good to you
3: makes you happy
Then buy it, just dont under power it, 525 or bigger
He really should go for a test ride.

[house]

So you guys are saying I should go on a test ride before buying it????
And Kilrtoy, 65-68mph with a 496 mag is fine with me.

[blender over]

I test drove the white and grey 24 cat he had(the demo boat) after he fixed the bottom, took it through all the motions and it seemed good to me :)
I was going to buy it ,then came across money problems :mad:

[Biglue]

I test drove the white and grey 24 cat he had(the demo boat) after he fixed the bottom, took it through all the motions and it seemed good to me :)
I was going to buy it ,then came across money problems :mad:
Told you to buy before getting married. :D
J/K Kam. :p

[djunkie]

So you guys are saying I should go on a test ride before buying it????
And Kilrtoy, 65-68mph with a 496 mag is fine with me.
Would you buy a car without test driving it?

[OGShocker]

Have you been on a test ride yet?
OMG!!! LMAO!!! and you call me a "prick"...:D

[house]

Would you buy a car without test driving it?
C'mon, I was being sarcastic because everyone kept repeating that sentence.
I am going to be looking to take a test ride sometime next week if everything works out on their end.
It is real hard to buy a boat, mostly if you are on a budget.
I wish I could rock some of the big baller boats I see on here!!!!

[jbtrailerjim]

I don't know much about Orion but I know Martin lays up a nice hull and puts out some of the best gels in the business. He layed up my Ultra and I'm very pleased with it.

[djunkie]

OMG!!! LMAO!!! and you call me a "prick"...:D
Hey I've never called you a prick. Thats everyone else around here. :crossx: :crossx:

[djunkie]

C'mon, I was being sarcastic because everyone kept repeating that sentence.
I am going to be looking to take a test ride sometime next week if everything works out on their end.
It is real hard to buy a boat, mostly if you are on a budget.
I wish I could rock some of the big baller boats I see on here!!!!
I know what you mean. I only wish I could afford something new. I'd just hate to see you buy something for the price and after you take it out for the first time you may not like it. I'm not saying they are bad boats just for you to make sure you take a test ride to see if you like the way they handle.

[Ivan Dan]

So you guys are saying I should go on a test ride before buying it????
And Kilrtoy, 65-68mph with a 496 mag is fine with me.
Spend the few extra $$'s and get the 496HO atleast. PM Newcastle on here he has a 24' with the HO.

[Cole Trickle]

Spend the few extra $$'s and get the 496HO atleast. PM Newcastle on here he has a 24' with the HO.
agreed....
I also really doubt you will see anywhere near 68mph in real world conditions with a standard 496.(Closer to 60)
Seems they have been making some nice boats lately. :)

[UncleLarry]

Martin is a professional.....
If you like the boat (and test drove it)
and you like the builder
and you get the boat you want at the price you want...
Then you have done what boat buyers do...
I chuckle when I hear people on this board put one or another boat company done or say negative things. If I polled every one on this board I bet I could find bad and good things about every boat manufacturer...
So again if you like what you see go for it............

[MR HARLEY]

65-68mph with a 496 mag is fine with me
Was that a winter or summer test run to attain those speeds? :crossx:
also really doubt you will see anywhere near 68mph in real world conditions with a standard 496
I was thinking the same thing.

[hot_diggity_dog]

So you guys are saying I should go on a test ride before buying it????
And Kilrtoy, 65-68mph with a 496 mag is fine with me.
It may be fine for you, but just not for Kilrtoy! He likes the biggest power you can't afford in every boat, whether you need it or not. :argue: :wink: :D
HDD :cool:

[blender over]

agreed....
I also really doubt you will see anywhere near 68mph in real world conditions with a standard 496.(Closer to 60)
Seems they have been making some nice boats lately. :)
I drove the demo w/a 496 mag, it did 68mph, well at least the speedo said so :p

[Cole Trickle]

I drove the demo w/a 496 mag, it did 68mph, well at least the speedo said so :p
I think the Livorsi speedos actually underestimate the speed.
Based on my calculations if the speedo said 68 you were probably somewhere closer to 90;) :crossx:

[Kilrtoy]

It may be fine for you, but just not for Kilrtoy! He likes the biggest power you can't afford in every boat, whether you need it or not. :argue: :wink: :D
HDD :cool:
Come on Glen, we have already been down this road, I always buy the biggest power available in everything I buy, Boats , cars, motorcycles.
I am currently looking at a new poontoon, with a MERCURY 525 or twin Suzuki 250's.
YOU NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY DAMN. I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A SMALLER LESS POWERFUL ENGINE.....
i think for an honest answer he should contact jayrd, he was the last one we discussed this over...
and you two have big power glen

[blender over]

I think the Livorsi speedos actually underestimate the speed.
Based on my calculations if the speedo said 68 you were probably somewhere closer to 90;) :crossx:
If it really does 68mph on GPS then you have to give me your corvette :)

[Not So Fast]

I think the Livorsi speedos actually underestimate the speed.
Based on my calculations if the speedo said 68 you were probably somewhere closer to 90;) :crossx:
Yehaw, I knew my boat was faster than that. :cool: HOUSE, Build a boat once, because to redo anything costs twice as much and you may say the speed is good for now but you just wait, you'll want more, as my wife says "Its a guy thing" NSF

[blender over]

Told you to buy before getting married. :D
J/K Kam. :p
When i grow up i want to be a big baller like Lue......................
PS the new bigger boat is still in the works!!!!

[Biglue]

When i grow up i want to be a big baller like Lue......................
PS the new bigger boat is still in the works!!!!
Me a baller???? Damn, wish someone would have told me. :D
Right on, you still looking into a cat? Bust on your brother. Now that dude is a baller. :crossx:

[hot_diggity_dog]

Come on Glen, we have already been down this road, I always buy the biggest power available in everything I buy, Boats , cars, motorcycles.
I am currently looking at a new poontoon, with a MERCURY 525 or twin Suzuki 250's.
YOU NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY DAMN. I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A SMALLER LESS POWERFUL ENGINE.....
i think for an honest answer he should contact jayrd, he was the last one we discussed this over...
and you two have big power glen
Dude I was just focking with you!!!!
Didn't mean to get your
http://www.pornhero.com/pornhero_panties_bunch.jpg
IN A BUNCH
HDD

[Cole Trickle]

If it really does 68mph on GPS then you have to give me your corvette :)
The one you drove had autometer gauges so it really only did 61mph. :p
You have to give me your boat with the whakker if it does over 50;) :crossx:

[BajaMike]

I should not buy a boat from Martin at Orion Boats.
I had a great conversation with him a little while ago and looked over most of the 24' cat he has. Great looking boat, quality looks real good, and the seems to be one of the best.
I just want to hear positive o rnegative comments about past dealings, current owners, etc. This is about the only place to come and get so many different opinions from so many different people.
Thanks.
What's the price on the boat compared to other better known brands?? What's your re-sale going to be??
:confused:

[Cole Trickle]

Come on Glen, we have already been down this road, I always buy the biggest power available in everything I buy, Boats , cars, motorcycles.
I am currently looking at a new poontoon, with a MERCURY 525 or twin Suzuki 250's.
YOU NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY DAMN. I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A SMALLER LESS POWERFUL ENGINE.....
i think for an honest answer he should contact jayrd, he was the last one we discussed this over...
and you two have big power glen
I agree but I think you need to find a happy medium.
With the rising cost of insurance and gas how can us middle classers justify spending that much for a boat?(We do OK but would be stupid to spend 10-20% of our income on a hobby that depreciates)
My next boat will probably be a 100-125K 525 equipped cat.(I am OK with 80mph and have no desire to stuff a Quad rotor in a family performance boat)
My current boat is a large 28' Open bow with a TON of room. It's equipped with a HO and runs a top speed in summer heat of 65mph (GPS Speedo) I still enjoy driving it at those speeds and when the need arises I can pack it down comfortably with 14 people and a ton of cocktails.
We took it out 2 weeks ago and ran it all we wanted to (Springs,channel,Steamboat,etc..) and used very little gas.this boat costs us $800 a year with high liability and no lay up.
Am I having less fun then Union Jack and his new DCB? Is the guy in the 20K seadoo boat having less fun than me(Probably not)
If the guy is struggling to justify a 60K cat why push him to spend an extra 25K for 7mph.
Shoot...Like you the more I go out the more I think about a nice 28' Pontoon.

[ChumpChange]

YOU NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY DAMN. I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A SMALLER LESS POWERFUL ENGINE.....
To an extent, I have said this statement. Had I gone with the 496HO instead of my upgraded.....I would only have to put the cheap gas in instead of the expensive stuff.

[RiverDave]

I should not buy a boat from Martin at Orion Boats.
I had a great conversation with him a little while ago and looked over most of the 24' cat he has. Great looking boat, quality looks real good, and the seems to be one of the best.
I just want to hear positive o rnegative comments about past dealings, current owners, etc. This is about the only place to come and get so many different opinions from so many different people.
Thanks.
I have never been in one since they fixed the bottom of it. I know the 1st one was kinda "funky" in the handling department becuase I drove it. I've heard they finally got it dialed in from a couple of different people. I've also seen a few of them popping up around Parker. I asked one of the guys about the boat and he was VERY happy with it!
For my personal opinion I can say this during my brief stint in the marine business Martin was one of the few people that was a pleasure to deal with! He's as stand up as stand up gets, and I personally wouldn't hesitate to buy a boat off of him if I was happy with the product. He's been in the boat business long enough that he's not going anywhere so you shouldn't have any worries over warranty issues or anything like that. That 24' Cat is Sharp looking! One of my favorite looking boats!
RD

[beaverretriever]

I agree but I think you need to find a happy medium.
With the rising cost of insurance and gas how can us middle classers justify spending that much for a boat?(We do OK but would be stupid to spend 10-20% of our income on a hobby that depreciates)
My next boat will probably be a 100-125K 525 equipped cat.(I am OK with 80mph and have no desire to stuff a Quad rotor in a family performance boat)
My current boat is a large 28' Open bow with a TON of room. It's equipped with a HO and runs a top speed in summer heat of 65mph (GPS Speedo) I still enjoy driving it at those speeds and when the need arises I can pack it down comfortably with 14 people and a ton of cocktails.
We took it out 2 weeks ago and ran it all we wanted to (Springs,channel,Steamboat,etc..) and used very little gas.this boat costs us $800 a year with high liability and no lay up.
Am I having less fun then Union Jack and his new DCB? Is the guy in the 20K seadoo boat having less fun than me(Probably not)
If the guy is struggling to justify a 60K cat why push him to spend an extra 25K for 7mph.
Shoot...Like you the more I go out the more I think about a nice 28' Pontoon.
Well said. I will put a blower on his engine in less than a day for under 5k and push him past that 7mph mark. :)

[ChumpChange]

Well said. I will put a blower on his engine in less than a day for under 5k and push him past that 7mph mark. :)
Does that mean you can put a blower on mine as well? :idea:

[jbtrailerjim]

agreed....
I also really doubt you will see anywhere near 68mph in real world conditions with a standard 496.(Closer to 60)
Seems they have been making some nice boats lately. :)
That 24' cat should not have any problems seeing upper 60's with a 496 Mag. My 496 Mag powered 24' Ultra see's that kind of speed without any problems.
I'd definetly spend a little more and get the HO if I was buying that boat. I'm sure that boat would run in the low to mid 70's with an HO. I think it would be fairly cheap on insurance also.

[KACHINA KEN]

Doesn't Martin' also lay up the Ultras as well???

[HM]

I should not buy a boat from Martin at Orion Boats.
He won't paint/gel dragons, or trolls, or demons, or pirates on his boats. That is a deal breaker for some people.

[jbtrailerjim]

Doesn't Martin' also lay up the Ultras as well???
He has been laying them up for a long time but I keep hearing rumors that he is not laying them up anymore. I'm not quite sure what the big freakin secret is if Martin is indeed not laying up there hulls anymore. :rolleyes:

[Cole Trickle]

That 24' cat should not have any problems seeing upper 60's with a 496 Mag. My 496 Mag powered 24' Ultra see's that kind of speed without any problems.
I'd definetly spend a little more and get the HO if I was buying that boat. I'm sure that boat would run in the low to mid 70's with an HO. I think it would be fairly cheap on insurance also.
If your seeing upper 60's (GPS) in a 25' boat thats loaded with gas and people thats truly impressive. :)
I do think that the 24' Genisis cat would run low to mid 70's with a HO and a light load.

[probablecause]

I always buy the biggest...in everything I buy, Boats , cars, motorcycles. YOU NEVER HEAR ANYONE SAY DAMN. I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A SMALLER...
The same applies to boobs :cool:

[NOTALENT]

Does anyone know what numbers Nate (Newcastle) saw?? I know he had problems showing what Orion said they saw speed wise.....I dont know if he ever got it figured out....??
I talked to them alot at the boat show...Nicely rigged boat at a great price. I dont know how he pulled the insurance deal though..... :crossx:

[jbtrailerjim]

If your seeing upper 60's (GPS) in a 25' boat thats loaded with gas and people thats truly impressive. :)
I do think that the 24' Genisis cat would run low to mid 70's with a HO and a light load.
What is impressive about that? My boat isn't 25'. It really has about only a 23' running surface. It weighs probably no more than 3500lb.
I've never GPS'ed mine before but Thor has the same boat as me but with a Mag HO. He has GPS'ed his boat with regular load on it in the low to mid 70's. When I bought my boat, I asked them how much more I would see with an HO? They said a few more MPH. The speedo has never read more than 72 but we all know they are not accurate. So I would guess my boat runs in the upper 60's.

[Trailer Park Casanova]

IF YOU LIKE THE
1: price
2:looks good to you
3: makes you happy
Then buy it, just dont under power it, 525 or bigger
What horsepower does insurance become a big issue?
Like availability and affordability?

[jbtrailerjim]

What horsepower does insurance become a big issue?
Like availability and affordability?
I would say with a HP525 in that boat it would take a large jump. I got a friend who just bought a Cobra 26 Venom cat and he went with a 496 Mag Ho. He told insurance took a big jump in $$ if he stepped up to a HP525 or bigger.

[CANADA]

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[Kilrtoy]

What horsepower does insurance become a big issue?
Like availability and affordability?
Glad you asked, Im pretty sure, I COULD BE WRONG, anything over a 496 in this boat will be uninsurable

[Kilrtoy]

Dude I was just focking with you!!!!
Didn't mean to get your
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IN A BUNCH
HDD
Glen those were yesterdays, today im commando

[djunkie]

Glen those were yesterdays, today im commando
TMI :crossx:

[Kilrtoy]

To an extent, I have said this statement. Had I gone with the 496HO instead of my upgraded.....I would only have to put the cheap gas in instead of the expensive stuff.
I say that also when I am at the pumps dumping 3 bills into the thing, but when I put the sticks down, I forgot, what was I saying.... :boxed:

[Arkansas]

I'm sure most of you have read the recent Hot Boat test report that has it at 66.6mph with the 496mag and an open bow. Looks like a great piece for the middle classer on a budget like myself. Make mine an HO though in blue and silver.

[THOR]

That 24' cat should not have any problems seeing upper 60's with a 496 Mag. My 496 Mag powered 24' Ultra see's that kind of speed without any problems.
I'd definetly spend a little more and get the HO if I was buying that boat. I'm sure that boat would run in the low to mid 70's with an HO. I think it would be fairly cheap on insurance also.
Do you wish you would have gotten the HO in your 247?

[jbtrailerjim]

Do you wish you would have gotten the HO in your 247?
I dunno, not really. The extra 3-5 mph the HO would have gotten me still does not seem worth the extra $4k it would have cost me to upgrade. I hardly ever run wide open anyway. I usually cruise between 40-50 mph.

[RiverDave]

Glad you asked, Im pretty sure, I COULD BE WRONG, anything over a 496 in this boat will be uninsurable
Why on earth would you say that?
RD

[RiverDave]

Martin - stand up guy, one of the few around. Always a pleasure to deal with.
I've heard from several people that they fixed the bottom, including from Martin himself. He was leary about going into production on the boat until he got the problem fixed. He's super confident now that the product is as good as good gets. His market is AFFORDABLE custom boats, custom boats that will get you out on the water, look good, without breaking the bank.
I couldn't agree with this more. In the boat biz 9 outta 10 are crooks.. Martin is the 1 out of 10 that's stand up.
RD

[centerhill condor]

if you're looking for a reason not to buy...just don't do it.
reads and looks like a very nice boat for the money and I like the power and hull it has. Like several have said $4k is a nice chunk for top end you won't use much anyway. enjoy the test ride and keep in mind it'll be your first ride in your new boat! few things in life can be as good! enjoy it while you've got it!

[Insurance God]

Also keep in mind the b.s. called insurance. Performance boats under 26ft are hard to write. Foremost used to take them but now they won't write a CAT w/ a top speed over 65mph (which is all CATS).

[Newcastle]

Just saw this thread. First and foremost Martin is a great guy to do business with. He's been true to his word since day 1. Everything he promised he has come through with even if he's busy with other customers.
Insurance isn't too bad, that's why I stuck with the HO. We've had it up to 70 but in perfect conditions. Summer Havasu with coolers and drunkards it'll get to 63/64.
They have a write-up on the 24' in the new ***boat. They had lots of positives to mention and the only negatives were petty things like the cooler locations.

[Mandelon]

Can anyone give me a reason I should not buy a boat from Martin at Orion Boats.
Thanks.
I have met Martin a couple of times, and chatted with him on several occasions. He always seemed like a stand up guy to me. He's been in the biz a long time.
Only from reading on here, my understanding is that there were some handling issues with the bottom on the cat, but it sounds like they have been worked out. And since the info was here, you have to take it for what its worth.
One negative that I can think of then, is that there is a perception that there is (or was) the problem. Most people wouldn't know any better, but the ones who read here know. And they might tell two friends.....
The other reason is resale. It is a relatively unknown brand. Since they have no real reputation, they make up for that with a lower price. This is a standard M. O. for new boat builders. Start out with lower prices, build a fan base and raise prices over the years as the market begins to respect the boats the company builds. Others embrace the "value" end of the spectrum, and are happy to occupy that spot.
Resale for the "value" boats is less than that of upper tier builders. This subject has been beat to death around here. So you Cheetah owners can just relax..... :p Trident is the only "new" brand that I can think of that started with a deluxe product. They still have a heck of a hill to cllimb.
I am not knocking Orion at all, just trying to anwser the guy's question. If you like the boat, your wife likes the boat, are happy with the price, and can afford it and the insurance, then why not? :cool:

[Big Kahunaa]

do they have a website i looked but couldn't find one

[HocusPocus]

do they have a website i looked but couldn't find one
www.orioncustomboats.com/
this is their website but its down right now.

[djunkie]

I couldn't agree with this more. In the boat biz 9 outta 10 are crooks.. Martin is the 1 out of 10 that's stand up.
RD
So who else on your list is not crooks? :rollside: :rollside:

[RiverDave]

So who else on your list is not crooks? :rollside: :rollside:
You know years past I would've have even blinked before I put up what I thought about certain people/mfg's. LOL
Nowdays I realize I might have to call upon some of those people in the future for various things (crooks or not) and realize it's probably best not to shoot myself in the foot. They aren't going to rip me off.. So everyone else can do their own damn homework. Nowdayz I'm out for numero uno, fock everybody else. God knows they aren't doing shit for me.
RD

[djunkie]

You know years past I would've have even blinked before I put up what I thought about certain people/mfg's. LOL
Nowdays I realize I might have to call upon some of those people in the future for various things (crooks or not) and realize it's probably best not to shoot myself in the foot. They aren't going to rip me off.. So everyone else can do their own damn homework. Nowdayz I'm out for numero uno, fock everybody else. God knows they aren't doing shit for me.
RD
Don't be skurred. :crossx: :crossx:

[Mrs.Killer]

It may be fine for you, but just not for Kilrtoy! He likes the biggest power you can't afford in every boat, whether you need it or not. :argue: :wink: :D
HDD :cool:
WRONG......I like it, get it right.

[RiverDave]

Don't be skurred. :crossx: :crossx:
I'm not, but I might need one of those crooks to lay up a boat for me in the future.. Or fix a gelcoat problem, or excersize an interior hookup through their mfg. Or get mfg pricing on a trailer, Or by a Merc motor without the ridiculous mark up, and drive, etc.. etc..
That is shit I can do with no problems, becuase I was in the industry and made friends with several people (including crooks) that are in the industry and I choose to keep my mouth shut about what I know. Best hook ups always come from shady people if ya know what I'm saying. I fully plan on excersizing those hook ups in the future. I could give a shit if he screws some guy I dunno, if it means I can get a Bravo 1 for half price.
The old me, would not have stood for that.. The old me hooked a bunch of people up only to find out that those same people would piss and moan about having to pay a shipping charge on a free product, or say shit like "I would've paid somebody else full pop if I would've known it was going to take this long." LOL Those same people can now suck a dick, as I'll hook myself up all day long.
RD

[djunkie]

I'm not, but I might need one of those crooks to lay up a boat for me in the future.. Or fix a gelcoat problem, or excersize an interior hookup through their mfg. Or get mfg pricing on a trailer, Or by a Merc motor without the ridiculous mark up, and drive, etc.. etc..
That is shit I can do with no problems, becuase I was in the industry and made friends with several people (including crooks) that are in the industry and I choose to keep my mouth shut about what I know. Best hook ups always come from shady people if ya know what I'm saying. I fully plan on excersizing those hook ups in the future. I could give a shit if he screws some guy I dunno, if it means I can get a Bravo 1 for half price.
The old me, would not have stood for that.. The old me hooked a bunch of people up only to find out that those same people would piss and moan about having to pay a shipping charge on a free product, or say shit like "I would've paid somebody else full pop if I would've known it was going to take this long." LOL Those same people can now suck a dick, as I'll hook myself up all day long.
RD
Meow psst psst!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! :crossx: :crossx:

[RiverDave]

Yeah, I am a little pissy.. having a rough day over here.. :D
RD

[djunkie]

Yeah, I am a little pissy.. having a rough day over here.. :D
RD
What happened? Someone wake you up before noon? Or did you realize you were out of smokes to have with your morning coffee? LOL!!!!!!!!!!
This actually sounds like my bad days. :crossx: :crossx:

[RiverDave]

What happened? Someone wake you up before noon? Or did you realize you were out of smokes to have with your morning coffee? LOL!!!!!!!!!!
This actually sounds like my bad days. :crossx: :crossx:
Got a paycheck from my new job that was inexplicably 400 bucks short.. The last one was 200 bucks, to which they promised would be resolved and made up for on this one.. Now I'm 600 out, which isn't that big of a deal, but WTF?
I'll tell you I think I'm going to go back to being a broke millionaire playboy becuase I made more money not working then I do working, and I didn't get screwed by everybody and their brother at every turn.
I think I might be having an anxiety attack.
RD

[djunkie]

Got a paycheck from my new job that was inexplicably 400 bucks short.. The last one was 200 bucks, to which they promised would be resolved and made up for on this one.. Now I'm 600 out, which isn't that big of a deal, but WTF?
I'll tell you I think I'm going to go back to being a broke millionaire playboy becuase I made more money not working then I do working, and I didn't get screwed by everybody and their brother at every turn.
I think I might be having an anxiety attack.
RD
Would you like a Xanax? I have an almost full bottle here. :rollside: :rollside:

[Mandelon]

Got a paycheck from my new job that was inexplicably 400 bucks short.. The last one was 200 bucks, to which they promised would be resolved and made up for on this one.. Now I'm 600 out, which isn't that big of a deal, but WTF?
I'll tell you I think I'm going to go back to being a broke millionaire playboy becuase I made more money not working then I do working, and I didn't get screwed by everybody and their brother at every turn.
I think I might be having an anxiety attack.
RD
At that rate, if you hold for 6 more checks you should be good... :p

[andy01]

Nowdayz I'm out for numero uno, fock everybody else. God knows they aren't doing shit for me.
RD
Your learning........