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ULTRA26 # 1
07-07-2006, 10:29 AM
Has anyone here installed CMI headers on a boat with below swim step exhaust openings? If so were additional parts required such a water jacketed s pipes?
Thanks

Raylar
07-08-2006, 10:54 AM
We,ve set up a few 496's with the new CMI kits. I say kits, because there is a lot more in the install than just boltng on the headers. It will take a good mechanic an honest 8 hours labor depending on the boat. Yes you can run cast s-pipes to below a swimstep, but depending on the fit measure carefully and talk to CMI or Fred at Trick Marine to make sure the tips they supply in the kit are the exact correct length.
Ray @ Raylar

ULTRA26 # 1
07-08-2006, 09:46 PM
We,ve set up a few 496's with the new CMI kits. I say kits, because there is a lot more in the install than just boltng on the headers. It will take a good mechanic an honest 8 hours labor depending on the boat. Yes you can run cast s-pipes to below a swimstep, but depending on the fit measure carefully and talk to CMI or Fred at Trick Marine to make sure the tips they supply in the kit are the exact correct length.
Ray @ Raylar
Ray,
Thanks for your input. It was very helpful
John M

Decided Advantage
08-09-2006, 06:24 AM
We,ve set up a few 496's with the new CMI kits. I say kits, because there is a lot more in the install than just boltng on the headers. It will take a good mechanic an honest 8 hours labor depending on the boat. Yes you can run cast s-pipes to below a swimstep, but depending on the fit measure carefully and talk to CMI or Fred at Trick Marine to make sure the tips they supply in the kit are the exact correct length.
Ray @ Raylar
All right! A pro. The next question. What kind of real world improvement was realized. The last time invested was on a 350 MAG/MPI that I upgraded from a lowly thru-prop exhaust. The result sounded great but with all the other variables (people, temp, wind, etc.) the result was no measureable performance difference.
I think they advertise a 60HP increase on a stock 496HO, which should provide measurable (3-5MPH?) results.
What is your experience?
My take was that while the headers look cool, that a Raylar kit leaving the exhaust stock would provide better bang for the buck and maintain better reliability(I hate dealing with water leaks).
You are the pro with tons of experience, dyno, and testing in this area.
My insurance company specifies no engine, exhaust mods. These headers would be a bit to visible to ignore. I'd prefer to keep with mods more suttle in appearance.

ULTRA26 # 1
08-15-2006, 05:59 AM
All right! A pro. The next question. What kind of real world improvement was realized. The last time invested was on a 350 MAG/MPI that I upgraded from a lowly thru-prop exhaust. The result sounded great but with all the other variables (people, temp, wind, etc.) the result was no measureable performance difference.
I think they advertise a 60HP increase on a stock 496HO, which should provide measurable (3-5MPH?) results.
What is your experience?
My take was that while the headers look cool, that a Raylar kit leaving the exhaust stock would provide better bang for the buck and maintain better reliability(I hate dealing with water leaks).
You are the pro with tons of experience, dyno, and testing in this area.
My insurance company specifies no engine, exhaust mods. These headers would be a bit to visible to ignore. I'd prefer to keep with mods more suttle in appearance.
Sorry to go off topic but I have to ask who you are insured with? No engine or exhaust mods stated in an insurance policy seems a bit stiff. Again, sorry for going off topic.

ULTRA26 # 1
09-08-2006, 09:28 AM
We,ve set up a few 496's with the new CMI kits. I say kits, because there is a lot more in the install than just boltng on the headers. It will take a good mechanic an honest 8 hours labor depending on the boat. Yes you can run cast s-pipes to below a swimstep, but depending on the fit measure carefully and talk to CMI or Fred at Trick Marine to make sure the tips they supply in the kit are the exact correct length.
Ray @ Raylar
Has anyone who has installed CMI's on their 496 had issues with the front header pipes on both sides running much hotter than the rest? This is happining with mine. No hoses are bindiing or are kinked.
Thanks

JB in so cal
09-08-2006, 09:52 AM
Has anyone who has installed CMI's on their 496 had issues with the front header pipes on both sides running much hotter than the rest? This is happining with mine. No hoses are bindiing or are kinked.
Thanks
Minor details... What kind of performance improvements are you seeing? Went from ?? to ??.
I'm thinking of going w/cmi's this winter.

ULTRA26 # 1
09-08-2006, 10:43 AM
Minor details... What kind of performance improvements are you seeing? Went from ?? to ??.
I'm thinking of going w/cmi's this winter.
Fairly serious performace increase accoss the board. I had only had it out last Sunday and my headheld GPS batteries were dead. Prior to the headers, maxx spreed shown on the speedo was 76 which was 74 on my GPS. Last Sunday, speedo well past the 80 mark. 4 to 5 MPH increase minimum. Acceleration from 40 to top speed increased dramatically and the boat sounds extremely good. You will be satisfied too

Cole Trickle
09-08-2006, 01:28 PM
The CMI headers are really nice and look great.
I would think realistic gains would be closer to 20-25 HP. and 1-2 MPH
No way people are seeing 5-6 mph with a header swap in the same conditions......No Way!!
They are nice and have alot of parts but the price is absurd.

djunkie
09-08-2006, 02:16 PM
The CMI headers are really nice and look great.
I would think realistic gains would be closer to 20-25 HP. and 1-2 MPH
No way people are seeing 5-6 mph with a header swap in the same conditions......No Way!!
They are nice and have alot of parts but the price is absurd.
Damm buzz kill.

ULTRA26 # 1
09-11-2006, 10:07 AM
The CMI headers are really nice and look great.
I would think realistic gains would be closer to 20-25 HP. and 1-2 MPH
No way people are seeing 5-6 mph with a header swap in the same conditions......No Way!!
They are nice and have alot of parts but the price is absurd.
I Agree that 6 mph isn't likely. I have no doubt that I gained 4 mph. Air temp was almost the same but it was much more humid when tested with the CMI's, which should cause less power. Full tanks at launch and speed tests at the same location. Relocating all of the necessary factory parts was a huge pain. Not simple and quick as CMI's ads suggest.
John M

ULTRA26 # 1
09-19-2006, 03:13 PM
Thor,
A photo of one of the CMI's on my Ultra 26
John M

Cole Trickle
09-19-2006, 03:42 PM
Thor,
A photo of one of the CMI's on my Ultra 26
John M
They look great!!!
so with the CMI's you are seeing close to 76-77 MPH in summer heat with the HO?
I really like the new 26 deck. It could easily be next boat!

THOR
09-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Sweet. I see now.
How much again?

ULTRA26 # 1
09-19-2006, 05:34 PM
Sweet. I see now.
How much again?
About $4,000 plus install, which I did myself.
John

ULTRA26 # 1
09-19-2006, 05:46 PM
They look great!!!
so with the CMI's you are seeing close to 76-77 MPH in summer heat with the HO?
I really like the new 26 deck. It could easily be next boat!
Full tanks, by myself I've seen over 80. Normal load 76-77 as long as there is no tailwind. With tailwind 75. Headwind spinning a 28, I ran out of prop somewhere around 82. he 26 performs well in all areas. I'm really happy with the boat and insurance wasn't an issue with this package.
John M

Kilrtoy
09-20-2006, 12:22 AM
It looked good up river last weekend

ULTRA26 # 1
09-20-2006, 05:23 PM
It looked good up river last weekend
Thanks
If you saw me headed up river about 2:00 pm I was having fun with a headwind.
John M

JB in so cal
09-20-2006, 06:34 PM
Thanks
If you saw me headed up river about 2:00 pm I was having fun with a headwind.
John M
I think last weekend, everyone was having (fun??) with a headwind going north!