View Full Version : What to do next? RPM / MPH don't seem right.
UNCLE SAM
07-13-2006, 06:33 PM
My boat is a Taylor SS, Fresh 455 Olds that will survive @ 5000rpm. Fresh Berk E with an American Turbine AA. Has a Place Diverter . I currently GPS 60 MPH @ 4900-5000 RPM. (tach is accurate) RPM seems high for 60MPH to me. What do I look at next? Shoe /Plate? or better loader. I have one of those angle iron ones in it.
pattymelt18
07-13-2006, 06:36 PM
cut the impeller
UNCLE SAM
07-13-2006, 06:41 PM
won't cutting the impeller give me more RPM?
seems like you are way low on speed. is that gps speed? i am turning 4600 on a berk A and getting 68-73 mph depending on load.
UNCLE SAM
07-13-2006, 07:03 PM
That is what I am thinking Berk. I was shooting for 60-65 mph at around 4400 RPM. Sure didn't work out that way. Last year with a worn out engine & pump (A impeller) I was 55 mph at 56-5800 rpm.
malcolm
07-13-2006, 07:05 PM
How heavy is that boat? I'd be happy with those numbers in mine. ;)
Seems like most Berk guys say the E pumps aren't as good as the Cs and Gs.
Talk to Duane about it, you aren't too far from him. See if that stirs anything up. :p
UNCLE SAM
07-13-2006, 07:08 PM
1600-1700 lbs something in there
malcolm
07-13-2006, 07:13 PM
I don't know, we always hope for more than we get. I'd say you made a step in the right direction. You gained 5 mph and lost 6-800 rpm, nothin' wrong with that! You could probably get more with some setup and bottom work.
does the hull have any hook in the bottom?
have you tried wedging it?
a different loader would probably be a good piece to try also.
in any case, it sounds like you need to air the boat out some more.
Scoobinator
07-14-2006, 01:39 AM
Sounds like you have alot of pump slippage Id check your tolorances you probably need a rebuild.
UNCLE SAM
07-14-2006, 04:35 AM
pump is good. has been checked
lil man wayne
07-14-2006, 04:37 AM
Jetboat effeciency at its best.
IMPATIENT 1
07-14-2006, 06:10 AM
My boat is a Taylor SS, Fresh 455 Olds that will survive @ 5000rpm. Fresh Berk E with an American Turbine AA. Has a Place Diverter . I currently GPS 60 MPH @ 4900-5000 RPM. (tach is accurate) RPM seems high for 60MPH to me. What do I look at next? Shoe /Plate? or better loader. I have one of those angle iron ones in it.
get a e pump shoe and ride plate kit from hi-tech.the 12je's starve for h2o on the top end and the shoe will keep it fed.i wouldn't be suprised to see it pick up your mph another 5-6mph, mine did!it'll plane faster, ride smoother, and be faster outta the hole, try it!!
i've got my taylor doin 80.3 on a good day!same pump you have and same bottom hull.
flat broke
07-14-2006, 06:45 AM
Impatient is on the right track. With a 455, it seems like you're spinning that AA a little easier than you probably should be. This typically means that the pump isn't loading properly which will greatly reduce the efficiency of the setup. Look into a good loader first, then the shoe and ride plate if the pump is still freewheeling a little too much. Just so you know, you might only achieve a reduction in RPM with little gain in MPH, but you will have increased the efficiency of your setup which is always good.
Chris
IMPATIENT 1
07-14-2006, 07:48 AM
Impatient is on the right track. With a 455, it seems like you're spinning that AA a little easier than you probably should be. This typically means that the pump isn't loading properly which will greatly reduce the efficiency of the setup. Look into a good loader first, then the shoe and ride plate if the pump is still freewheeling a little too much. Just so you know, you might only achieve a reduction in RPM with little gain in MPH, but you will have increased the efficiency of your setup which is always good.
Chris
RIGHT ON , HAVIN MORE THRUST AT LOWER RPM'S IS A GOOD THING!REALLY A GOOD THING FOR A BBO!
UNCLE SAM
07-15-2006, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the input. To lower the RPM is the goal. I really don't need it to go any faster. We just use it to ski & tube, make some noise & show off. I was told to see how the pump is installed in the hull. I believe that is where the problem lies. It is too high in the hull. Above the keel & cocked to one side as well. Seems to me that would prevent the pump from loading well.
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