This one will be interesting to watch

[superdave013]

Blown alki flat in Ohio on e bay with no reserve. I've seen nicer ones but this one looks like it could clean up pretty good.
What do you think this boat will go for??
he says "Squirrells beware!!" (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2412539764&category=31270)

[Fiat48]

Definately will be a good one to watch! 140 Mph? Okay. This may be one of those auctions that get cancelled before it ends, like the one you just had experience with. wink

[cal***boat]

http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-1.JPG
Well i guess we will all know in 9 days cry

[superdave013]

God Damn, I would go for it but I couldn't get it in time for Needles!
Ok, lets hear a guess on the sale price.
I say it will go for 7,376.01. Is the price right?

[Hud]

superdave013, check your pm's please!

[cal***boat]

http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-4.JPG
"Mike Kuhl" built 468 Blown/ Supercharged Alky Motor. Has all the serious go fast goodies and no junk. Whirl-a-way, cav pedals, etc. Has a water pump on it for attempting to idle through no wake zones (yeah, right). Boat ran 140 and it sounds great. Zoomies have baffles but it should have full headers with a little water for lake cruising. Includes 30 gallons of methanol in a drum if desired. Could be converted to run gas but pills would have to be changed in inj pump, etc. Still has 15 gallon gas tanks on sides but center tank is for alky.
140mph HUH OK, Looks like the same Kuhl 468 river rat i just sold that was rated at 800 horsepower. I wonder if you can get that extra 300 horsepower by running alky ?

[Big Boys Toy PE857]

I've been watching that one myself, I only live about 4 hrs from Dayton, Ohio. I'm not sure about 140 mph, but a 468 BBC with big blower like that ought to make at least what, 1000 hp? Looks like a 1471 with a magneto from the other pics on ebay. I've already got 2 blown hydros and gonna pick up another blown Laser 24' sport boat today, I imagine if I would try to sneak in a blown flat bottom I would get to split all my stuff 50/50 with my wife and i'd be looking for a place to stay. Good thing it's warming up enough to sleep in my truck.
PS to DC 066,
Can I drag the fleet down to Jacksonville and stay in the garage?

[Ratacole]

Big Boys Toy PE857:
I've been watching that one myself, I only live about 4 hrs from Dayton, Ohio. I'm not sure about 140 mph, but a 468 BBC with big blower like that ought to make at least what, 1000 hp? Looks like a 1471 with a magneto from the other pics on ebay. I've already got 2 blown hydros and gonna pick up another blown Laser 24' sport boat today, I imagine if I would try to sneak in a blown flat bottom I would get to split all my stuff 50/50 with my wife and i'd be looking for a place to stay. Good thing it's warming up enough to sleep in my truck.
PS to DC 066,
Can I drag the fleet down to Jacksonville and stay in the garage? What if your Wife takes the truck jawdrop

[SERIOUS ISSUES]

I think I saw this for sale in www.dragboats.com (http://www.dragboats.com) for $13000. I just want the motor for the Biesemeyer. :D :D

[Infomaniac]

He is not true to his word. There is a squirrel bid and he has not cancelled it.
[ April 24, 2003, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Infomaniac ]

[cal***boat]

Not a 14-71, a 6-71 or 8-71 at the most.
No offset mag drive, you need at least a 4" offset drive for a 14-71
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-7.JPG
I would lean more towards a 6-71 because it only has one center rib on the case and most 8-71 blowers i have seen have 2 center ribs on the case. :confused:

[superdave013]

cal***boat:
Not a 14-71, a 6-71 or 8-71 at the most.
No offset mag drive, you need at least a 4" offset drive for a 14-71
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-7.JPG
I would lean more towards a 6-71 because it only has one center rib on the case and most 8-71 blowers i have seen have 2 center ribs on the case. :confused: I would say you are correct. Looks like a 6-71 to me.

[dossangers]

Only a squirrell would believe it does 140 Maybe hes the one that built the last hydro on ebay with the hypo wing!! LOL :D

[GofastRacer]

superdave013:
cal***boat:
Not a 14-71, a 6-71 or 8-71 at the most.
No offset mag drive, you need at least a 4" offset drive for a 14-71
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-7.JPG
I would lean more towards a 6-71 because it only has one center rib on the case and most 8-71 blowers i have seen have 2 center ribs on the case. :confused: I would say you are correct. Looks like a 6-71 to me. Yep, I would say it's a 6-71!..

[Bad Meds]

Why is the center of the floor in front of the v-drive/behind the bulk head all dark and doesn't match the rest of the floor?

[waterloged]

i would say that it does go 140 if he holdes it wide open across the lake

[Fiat48]

Maybe he runs it real fat and it does 140 Gallons per hour. smile_sp

[superdave013]

Bad Meds:
Why is the center of the floor in front of the v-drive/behind the bulk head all dark and doesn't match the rest of the floor? I was looking at that too. The rest of the floor is not looking that great also.
I would think that if it would clean up he would have done it. A clean floor and nice looking glass in there would be worth a bunch more $$$ on the bids I would think.

[superdave013]

Ok, Look at the side tank in this pic.
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-1.JPG
Now look at it in this one. WTF?? did a little photochopping take place here or is it just me?
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-7.JPG

[Ratacole]

Fiat48:
Maybe he runs it real fat and it does 140 Gallons per hour. smile_sp :D :D :D

[Sangster]

superdave013:
Ok, Look at the side tank in this pic.
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-1.JPG
Now look at it in this one. WTF?? did a little photochopping take place here or is it just me?
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ca7fbd011ed451baf30287e84ff6099a/i-7.JPG Sure looks like it to me...... eek!

[burbanite]

Bad Meds:
Why is the center of the floor in front of the v-drive/behind the bulk head all dark and doesn't match the rest of the floor? Kinda looks like a piece of carpet to me ????

[Back Forty]

Guys this is probably right around the corner from me. It looks interesting enough for me to go and check it out if anyone is serious about it. I'll break out the digital camera and snap some shots if need be. Send an email...

[dossangers]

The next itime i sell a boat its going on EBAY this is the ad: DRAG HYDRO a true 200 mph boat will run on alky or gas once sat in by EDDIE HILL engine by HERBERT [legendary engine builder] only raced a couple of times owner to scared to push throttle down 1st 25000.00 is a owner ill only take cash up front i will start the boat on tralier ps the tank is full LMAO!! jawdrop jawdrop

[superdave013]

Back Forty:
Guys this is probably right around the corner from me. It looks interesting enough for me to go and check it out if anyone is serious about it. I'll break out the digital camera and snap some shots if need be. Send an email... Thanks for the offer and I'm sure it's not all that bad. A few things look a lil fishy but all in all. Picking on E bay ads is kinda like sport to me.
Just to be a fair sport about it, my e bay ad is right HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26455&item=2411898611&rd=1) if someone cares to pick on it. :D

[HavasuDreamin']

Auction has ended????? WTF :confused: devil

[superdave013]

dossangers:
The next itime i sell a boat its going on EBAY this is the ad: DRAG HYDRO a true 200 mph boat will run on alky or gas once sat in by EDDIE HILL engine by HERBERT [legendary engine builder] only raced a couple of times owner to scared to push throttle down 1st 25000.00 is a owner ill only take cash up front i will start the boat on tralier ps the tank is full LMAO!! jawdrop jawdrop I know, I let my last flat go to cheep. That ws before the I got into the net. I bet today I could sell the same boat for 2K more. Oh well

[Ratacole]

dossangers:
The next itime i sell a boat its going on EBAY this is the ad: DRAG HYDRO a true 200 mph boat will run on alky or gas once sat in by EDDIE HILL engine by HERBERT [legendary engine builder] only raced a couple of times owner to scared to push throttle down 1st 25000.00 is a owner ill only take cash up front i will start the boat on tralier ps the tank is full LMAO!! jawdrop jawdrop Will you take a check smile_sp

[dossangers]

Im serious next time ebay. were spoiled out here with all the boats and parts we have access to. Other parts of the country they got nothing. we have the boats the knoledge and know how to put a boat together that looks BADASS! And we are a little critical but thats because we know our shit right GANG!!! OR WE PRETEND TO!!

[burbanite]

HavasuDreamin':
Auction has ended????? WTF :confused: devil "The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."

[Ratacole]

burbanite:
HavasuDreamin':
Auction has ended????? WTF :confused: devil "The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing." Maybe he was reading all of this & had to fix the pic & vacuum the carpet jawdrop

[superdave013]

dossangers:
OR WE PRETEND TO!! yeah, maybe that's it. :rolleyes:
Your right though, I've sold some stuff on e bay and was amazed at how much it went for.
Like a steering quadrent that sat on my shelf for 15 years and must have been that old before I put it there. I think that went for 45 bucks + shipping.
You know, I should have e bayed that shit I sold you! :D Naw, hooking a fellow v driver up is cool too.

[dossangers]

Im glad i found these boards otherwise i wouldnt know about any of the ***boat happenings or get hooked up on parts!! Thanks dave ill put them to good use. http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/167Dsc00222-med.jpg

[Fiat48]

Like I said, ended the auction early. Error in listing was no doubt the 140 MPH instead of GPH. smile_sp

[wsuwrhr]

Ebay listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31270&item=2412744677)
I just checked, and it was relisted, semms the boat NOW does 100+ instead of 140, perhaps the tune-up is a little off.
Brian

[GofastRacer]

He also forgot to correct the "Photo Chopping", he needs practice!.. eek! :D

[cal***boat]

eek! Kinda seams like maybe the guy that owns the boat may have beed reading these boards eek!

[GofastRacer]

Could be!.. :D

[burbanite]

Now that it has been slowed down a little maybe I'll bid on it :D
It would have been too big a jump going from my slow old jet to a 140 mph v-drive...

[GofastRacer]

burbanite:
Now that it has been slowed down a little maybe I'll bid on it :D
It would have been too big a jump going from my slow old jet to a 140 mph v-drive... :D :D :D

[ssmike]

Ha ha ha....the auction is back....he must be lurkin.....
The motor lost 100 HP and 40 mph.....I sent him a friendly email yesterday.....I said, Nice boat, 140 mph my ass, good luck selling it...

[burbanite]

Ta Daaa....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2412744677

[GofastRacer]

He could at least do something with that Photochop though!! :( :D :D

[wsuwrhr]

You bid on it Burbanite? I smella shill bid if the price doesn't go up. I would put in a couple of grand to time-share it. Nothing like a 140mph v-drive.
Brian

[wsuwrhr]

SS Mike, good message to the poor guy. You are worse than Dave now. I thought it was bad enough the SuperDave laughed about the ads on this forum.
You actually email the seller, and laugh in his face.
HaHa,
Brian

[burbanite]

wsuwrhr:
You bid on it Burbanite? I smella shill bid if the price doesn't go up. I would put in a couple of grand to time-share it. Nothing like a 140mph v-drive.
Brian Yeah, it's not like he's going to sell it to me for what I want to pay for it.
Hmmm, time share on a boat with a short season here in the Midwest, methinks you would come out on top of that deal wink

[burbanite]

Just 9 days and 19 hours until I have my new boat :cool:

[wsuwrhr]

...until I SNIPE you at the last minute.
Brian

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ssmike: 140 mph my ass
Mike, whats up with the profanity??? Is this really ss mike??? :) :) :)

[burbanite]

wsuwrhr:
...until I SNIPE you at the last minute.
Brian Hmmm, I've been known to hit the last second button on occasion myself... wink
Anyway, with that much time until I have to think about it, I'm going to bed, it's after midnight here and we have many crashed cars to replace before we go to Indy next weekend :rolleyes:

[ssmike]

V-DRIVE VIDEO:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ssmike: 140 mph my ass
Mike, whats up with the profanity??? Is this really ss mike??? :) :) :) JG,
Yep, I'm a bit anxious for VACATION!!!! (Plus, I have been working a ton lately and am a little out of it....)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/41rocker.gif
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/41rocker.gif
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[ April 24, 2003, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: ssmike ]

[superdave013]

wsuwrhr:
SS Mike, good message to the poor guy. You are worse than Dave now. I thought it was bad enough the SuperDave laughed about the ads on this forum.
You actually email the seller, and laugh in his face.
HaHa,
Brian I did not laugh at this ad. The one I laughed at was the "Very Rare Jet Hydro".
Turned out to be your buddies boat now didn't it. :rolleyes:
I bet this flat will run an easy 120.00 if the engine is in good shape.

[HavasuDreamin']

burbanite:
Just 9 days and 19 hours until I have my new boat :cool: I want a ride. devil

[burbanite]

HavasuDreamin':
burbanite:
Just 9 days and 19 hours until I have my new boat :cool: I want a ride. devil :D :D :D
There's no way that thing will end up in my garage unless he's prepared to virtually give it away :) and I very much doubt that will happen
pig_flyi
I'll bid until I don't want to bid any more, just the way an auction is supposed to run and when the price doesn't go near where the seller's expectation then the shill bid will come in.
In the meantime though I am still high bidder and as such you have an invitation to ride along. wink

[burbanite]

Uh Oh,
there is someone over there on eBay trying to steal my thunder :D

[HavasuDreamin']

burbanite
In the meantime though I am still high bidder and as such you have an invitation to ride along. I am dusting off my lifeline.
:D

[michiganflattie]

Man you guys have to get a life! You thought you were intelligent posting this BS about my boat - Shame on you! Yeah, you are relly the guys I want to hang out with at the lake... NOT! No wonder the younger guys aren't interested in this stuff with people like you running these boats.
You guys must have way too much time on your hands (and probably don't even own a boat half this nice)to post a string this long about an old howard.
I haven't driven this boat yet and the previous owner gave me the supposed "specs". Sorry for even listing it. I downgraded it based on the one other alcohol motor I owned and because your "hyper intelligent" mental mastur***ion "LOL" buddy wrote me an idiotic note. Wow! What a sharp guy!
Could it be that I noticed that a bunch of you had "loser" ebay ratings and your just PO'd that I canceled your bids?
Try LOL about that one, brainiacs! :p

[wsuwrhr]

Are you sure you were looking at MY ratings DICKHEAD?
Laughs.
If you were closer to California, I would have bought your peice-of-shit boat, blew up that BAD ASS motor up in a minute or less, and put an aluminum KB Hemi motor in it. In case you don't know your way around a motor, KB stands for Keith Black. Do you think your bad ass Alky motor would make a good anchor? 140MPH my ASSSSSS.
Do you think everyone on EBay or ***boat is as
undereducated as you are?
Get real.
By the way, that is how us young kids treat boats like yours.
Brian
(hot under the collar today)

[michiganflattie]

Like I said...another "coulda, shoulda, woulda" armchair quarterback, pal. You obviously don't have a KB and by the way I do know what that is.
I made the mistake of using the former owner's claims on this boat and I found a bunch of guys sniping/backstabbing my auction back here on what appears to be a pretty cool bulletin board. Too bad. I'm sure not all of you are like this.
And yeah, Ca is not the only place to own and run a v drive. Nice slam on the rest of the country, brains. It is a lot harder to find people (who know something about these boats and are decent) and parts out here.
Now that I have had time to read the rest of this string I can't believe that someone thought I cut and pasted the pics. Like anyone has time to do that.
Anyway, still can't believe thats the best you can do for a comeback. "LOL"

[wsuwrhr]

Laughs,
I'm going to take some pictures and you can see for yourself the parts I have available. For what reason I don't know, I'm sure you will quip off with some comment, but I don't like being called out. After that post I will ignore your dumb ass like the rest of the guys here that come on with an attitude. We don't need your "kind" here. Move along now, nothing here for you to see.
KB it is buddy.
Brian
[ April 27, 2003, 07:56 AM: Message edited by: wsuwrhr ]

[superdave013]

M-flattie,
I did not intend to slam you boat. I love flats man. Really, I do. I just thought it would be interesting to watch it to see what it would sell for. That's all that was intended. I mean, it had a list price of 4K. I was intersted in seeing how far it would go up.
And yes, we did scope out your ad pretty close. So what, that's what it's there for. Yours is not the only v drive boat on e day right now and yes. We are talking about the others too.
Oh, here's my e bay rating look for yourself (http://cgi2.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=superdave013)
And here is a pic of my last flat. Looks pretty close to yours hu.
take a look (http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48010_7.jpg)

[Sangster]

Hey Dave...Jest noticed that your bearing buddy covers don't match, Hummm..... must be the reason you got rid of it... :D :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48010_7.jpg

[michiganflattie]

Dave:
Thanks. And yes, your boat makes my Howard look pretty crusty. I should have given it a good clean up before I took those pics in the warehouse. I took them in Feb when we had 10 -12" of snow on the ground and the garden hose was frozen to the spigot. I did see where you guys were trying to figure out the blower size. I really think its a 6-71. Is Mike Kuhl still around? His stickers and machined nameplates are all over the motor.
I wouldn't sell this thing unless I needed to but I have an old Stevens that I have had for years and I need the cash.
Is $6000 for the motor and $5000 for the hull and trailer not a good idea?
Thanks again

[superdave013]

michiganflattie:
Dave:
Thanks. And yes, your boat makes my Howard look pretty crusty. I should have given it a good clean up before I took those pics in the warehouse. I took them in Feb when we had 10 -12" of snow on the ground and the garden hose was frozen to the spigot. I did see where you guys were trying to figure out the blower size. I really think its a 6-71. Is Mike Kuhl still around? His stickers and machined nameplates are all over the motor.
I wouldn't sell this thing unless I needed to but I have an old Stevens that I have had for years and I need the cash.
Is $6000 for the motor and $5000 for the hull and trailer not a good idea?
Thanks again Yep, Kuhl is still around. His shop is real close to me.
As far s price, get what you can. I bet they could be worth a little more back there because there is not as many to pic from. Here they are a dime a dozen and people are getting rid of them for that new 26' cat they just bought. The nice, race proven ones still bring some pretty good coin though. I sold the above boat less engine for 4,500.00! I gave it away. Like I said, I wish I was into this internet thing back then as I know I could have got way more. Oh well.
So are you part of the Michigan Hot boat club? If not you should be. From the little I know about them it's a really cool club.
And lastly, this is a really great forum. Hope you stick around. Lets see some pics of that Stevens sometime.
Oh, I grew up in the Midwest. Northen Indiana, Lake James was my old stomping grounds. Been a long time, I need to get back that way sometime.
Sangster, You focker! Don't pick on my bearing buddy caps man. I can't take it. :D Just for you bro I'll get 4 different colors of caps for the schiada. :rolleyes:

[dossangers]

Michigan flattie most of us know our shit and have boats that run hard to back it up! Dont get BENT. But the claims were a little exagerated and we picked up on them. Most of the guys on these boards are stand up guys! We run the assholes off good luck with your sale.

[Fiat48]

As suspected "The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."
Yeah, right!
True colors.
Last I saw it was at $7100.
[ May 04, 2003, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Fiat48 ]