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Kilrtoy
08-03-2006, 07:16 PM
Great show on the History channel tonight at 11PM (atleast in havasu)
and other club drugs that people think are harmless....

Her454
08-03-2006, 07:27 PM
and other club drugs that people think are harmless....
No such thing as a harmless drug. It either effects you, or the people around you.

hoolign
08-03-2006, 07:35 PM
I'll drink to that!

beever_retreever
08-03-2006, 07:38 PM
I'll drink to that!
:) Drugs made NPH steal Harold's car ya know...

Big Kahunaa
08-03-2006, 07:40 PM
doogie wouldnt do that

Boatcop
08-03-2006, 07:41 PM
I'll drink to that!
Hooli's avatar looks like he has first hand knowledge of the effects of ecstasy.
:crossx: :220v: :D

SurfOnH20
08-03-2006, 07:50 PM
I saw it to. It was very interesting with the facts given with the damaging effects on the brain.

Boatcop
08-03-2006, 07:56 PM
I saw it to. It was very interesting with the facts given with the damaging effects on the brain.
The main ingrediant in MDMA (Ecstasy) is chemically the same as:
METHAMPHETAMINE! :220v:

Carrera 26
08-03-2006, 09:31 PM
How about 2 bottles of captain and 4 tremors in one day/night

DeeCandyBar
08-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Great show on the History channel tonight at 11PM (atleast in havasu)
and other club drugs that people think are harmless....
did they talk about dcb koolaid?

SHOTKALLIN
08-03-2006, 09:51 PM
Hooli's avatar looks like he has first hand knowledge of the effects of ecstasy.
:crossx: :220v: :D
The same goes for Big Kahunaa :boxed:

hoolign
08-03-2006, 09:59 PM
The main ingrediant in MDMA (Ecstasy) is chemically the same as:
METHAMPHETAMINE! :220v:
Interesting!..did you also know that extasy was invented in Vancouver Canada?? and as for my avatar Alan...that was after 30 minutes at Starbucks all you can chug " latte-a thon" :D ( hooli- only smokes the erb)

TRUMP TIGHT
08-03-2006, 10:09 PM
For those that dont know "E" i made with different amounts of different chemicals every time but almost always include METH and HAROIN!!

DeeCandyBar
08-03-2006, 10:15 PM
let's set the record straight - here (http://www.drugabuse.gov/Testimony/9-19-02Testimony.html)
Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to present scientific findings about Ecstasy or MDMA. I am Dr. Glen Hanson, the Acting Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a component of the National Institutes of Health.
As NIH is the world's leading supporter of research on the health aspects of all drugs of abuse, I would like to share with you today the latest scientific findings about MDMA and the impact it can have on the health and well-being of individuals and communities.
Let me begin by stating that there is substantial scientific evidence that proves that 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, which is frequently referred to by the acronym MDMA and known on the street as "Ecstasy," has substantial risk associated with its use. It is not benign, like some of its users and even a very small minority of researchers have proclaimed. MDMA can produce both short- and long-term physiological and psychological consequences that can be detrimental to an individual's health. There is accumulating animal and human data suggesting that chronic abuse may produce long-lasting neurotoxic effects in the brain.
Pharmacologically, MDMA has both stimulant and hallucinogenic properties. While MDMA rarely causes overt hallucinations, many people report distorted time and exaggerated sensory perception while under the influence of the drug. It also causes an amphetamine-like hyperactivity and euphoria in people, and like other stimulants, it appears to have the ability to cause addiction. A recent NIDA-supported study in Human Psychopharmacology found that in 173 adolescents and young adults, of the 52 users who had reported using MDMA, almost 60 percent met the diagnostic criteria for abuse and dependence, and 43 percent met the criteria for MDMA dependence alone.
Use of MDMA increases heart rate, blood pressure and can disable the body's ability to regulate its own temperature. Because of its stimulant properties, when it is used in club or dance settings, it stimulates users to dance vigorously for extended periods, but can also lead to dangerous rises in body temperature, referred to as hyperthermia, as well as dehydration, hypertension, and even heart or kidney failure in particularly susceptible people.
MDMA is typically available in capsule or tablet form and is usually taken orally, although there are documented cases suggesting that more and more frequently it is being administered by other routes, including injection and snorting. MDMA's acute effects typically last from three to six hours depending on the dosage, with the reported average dose of MDMA consumed by a typical user being between one and two tablets, with each containing approximately 60-120 mg of MDMA. However, much higher doses of five tablets and greater are not unusual. MDMA appears to be well absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract, and after administration peak levels are reached in about an hour.
It is known that drugs that are sold to individuals as "Ecstasy" tablets frequently contain not only MDMA, but other drugs or drug combinations that can be harmful. Adulterants found in MDMA tablets purchased on the street by researchers include methamphetamine, caffeine, the cough suppressant dextromethorphan, an over the counter cough suppressant that has PCP-like effects at high doses, the diet drug ephedrine, and cocaine. Also, like with other drugs of abuse, MDMA is rarely used alone. It is not uncommon for users to mix MDMA with alcohol, Viagra, or GHB or to "bump" and take sequential doses of a drug or drugs when the initial dose begins to fade. This has been confirmed by both treatment reports and medical examiner reports. Because of these drug combinations, it is difficult to anticipate with certainty all the potential medical consequences that can result from the use of MDMA. These drug combinations can also make it challenging to determine the precise role of MDMA in adverse reactions in recreational users.
MDMA in its true form works in the brain by increasing the activity levels of at least three neurotransmitters (the chemical messengers of brain cells): serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. Like amphetamines, MDMA causes these neurotransmitters to be released from their storage sites in neurons resulting in increased brain activity. Compared to the very potent stimulant, methamphetamine, MDMA causes greater serotonin release and somewhat lesser dopamine release. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that plays an important role in regulation of mood, sleep, pain, emotion, appetite, and other behaviors. By releasing large amounts of serotonin and also interfering with its synthesis, MDMA causes the brain to become significantly depleted of this important neurotransmitter. As a result, it takes the human brain time to rebuild its serotonin levels. For people who take MDMA at moderate to high doses, depletion of serotonin may be long-term. These persistent deficits in serotonin are likely responsible for many of the persistent behavioral effects that the user experiences.
There is a growing body of evidence that associates this serotonin loss in heavy MDMA users to confusion, depression, sleep problems, persistent elevation of anxiety, aggressive and impulsive behavior and selective impairment of some working memory and attention processes.

bignet
08-03-2006, 10:47 PM
I have more fun watching fools on drugs than I ever did taking 'em.. :rollside:
:crossx:
bignet

Bense468
08-04-2006, 12:01 AM
I'll stick to coke thanks.

VanDeano
08-04-2006, 01:15 AM
let's set the record straight - here (http://www.drugabuse.gov/Testimony/9-19-02Testimony.html)
Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to present scientific findings about Ecstasy or MDMA. I am Dr. Glen Hanson, the Acting Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a component of the National Institutes of Health.
As NIH is the world's leading supporter of research on the health aspects of all drugs of abuse, I would like to share with you today the latest scientific findings about MDMA and the impact it can have on the health and well-being of individuals and communities.
Let me begin by stating that there is substantial scientific evidence that proves that 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, which is frequently referred to by the acronym MDMA and known on the street as "Ecstasy," has substantial risk associated with its use. It is not benign, like some of its users and even a very small minority of researchers have proclaimed. MDMA can produce both short- and long-term physiological and psychological consequences that can be detrimental to an individual's health. There is accumulating animal and human data suggesting that chronic abuse may produce long-lasting neurotoxic effects in the brain.
Pharmacologically, MDMA has both stimulant and hallucinogenic properties. While MDMA rarely causes overt hallucinations, many people report distorted time and exaggerated sensory perception while under the influence of the drug. It also causes an amphetamine-like hyperactivity and euphoria in people, and like other stimulants, it appears to have the ability to cause addiction. A recent NIDA-supported study in Human Psychopharmacology found that in 173 adolescents and young adults, of the 52 users who had reported using MDMA, almost 60 percent met the diagnostic criteria for abuse and dependence, and 43 percent met the criteria for MDMA dependence alone.
Use of MDMA increases heart rate, blood pressure and can disable the body's ability to regulate its own temperature. Because of its stimulant properties, when it is used in club or dance settings, it stimulates users to dance vigorously for extended periods, but can also lead to dangerous rises in body temperature, referred to as hyperthermia, as well as dehydration, hypertension, and even heart or kidney failure in particularly susceptible people.
MDMA is typically available in capsule or tablet form and is usually taken orally, although there are documented cases suggesting that more and more frequently it is being administered by other routes, including injection and snorting. MDMA's acute effects typically last from three to six hours depending on the dosage, with the reported average dose of MDMA consumed by a typical user being between one and two tablets, with each containing approximately 60-120 mg of MDMA. However, much higher doses of five tablets and greater are not unusual. MDMA appears to be well absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract, and after administration peak levels are reached in about an hour.
It is known that drugs that are sold to individuals as "Ecstasy" tablets frequently contain not only MDMA, but other drugs or drug combinations that can be harmful. Adulterants found in MDMA tablets purchased on the street by researchers include methamphetamine, caffeine, the cough suppressant dextromethorphan, an over the counter cough suppressant that has PCP-like effects at high doses, the diet drug ephedrine, and cocaine. Also, like with other drugs of abuse, MDMA is rarely used alone. It is not uncommon for users to mix MDMA with alcohol, Viagra, or GHB or to "bump" and take sequential doses of a drug or drugs when the initial dose begins to fade. This has been confirmed by both treatment reports and medical examiner reports. Because of these drug combinations, it is difficult to anticipate with certainty all the potential medical consequences that can result from the use of MDMA. These drug combinations can also make it challenging to determine the precise role of MDMA in adverse reactions in recreational users.
MDMA in its true form works in the brain by increasing the activity levels of at least three neurotransmitters (the chemical messengers of brain cells): serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. Like amphetamines, MDMA causes these neurotransmitters to be released from their storage sites in neurons resulting in increased brain activity. Compared to the very potent stimulant, methamphetamine, MDMA causes greater serotonin release and somewhat lesser dopamine release. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that plays an important role in regulation of mood, sleep, pain, emotion, appetite, and other behaviors. By releasing large amounts of serotonin and also interfering with its synthesis, MDMA causes the brain to become significantly depleted of this important neurotransmitter. As a result, it takes the human brain time to rebuild its serotonin levels. For people who take MDMA at moderate to high doses, depletion of serotonin may be long-term. These persistent deficits in serotonin are likely responsible for many of the persistent behavioral effects that the user experiences.
There is a growing body of evidence that associates this serotonin loss in heavy MDMA users to confusion, depression, sleep problems, persistent elevation of anxiety, aggressive and impulsive behavior and selective impairment of some working memory and attention processes.
If it is good as they say....where do I line up :p

Trailer Park Casanova
08-04-2006, 04:02 AM
Temple and fig sold all nite long with quarts of water.
See ambulances all nite long too hauling off the kids.

RitcheyRch
08-04-2006, 04:38 AM
Interesting. Didnt see the show but am sure would have been interesting to watch.
The main ingrediant in MDMA (Ecstasy) is chemically the same as:
METHAMPHETAMINE! :220v:

GHT
08-04-2006, 05:46 AM
Very interesting subject and nice info. Keep in mind ALL drugs (even over the counter) are not good for the body. Every Drug has "the desired" effect and a "Side effect". With the good comes the bad.... Most of the people I have met at the lake party at many different levels but I don't think I have met anyone with a truely addictive personality.
Not condoning any drug use... BUT if you read all the hazards of liquar you would probably NEVER drink. And Hundreds, if not thousands, die from it yearly...
Careful what you do with your body.

drbones
08-04-2006, 06:52 AM
It is a war we will never win... what did they say the DEA has 18billion dollar budget...?? But is was a entertaning show :)