Berkley Rebuild

[Bradf]

Hey guys, hows it going? As you can see im new to the forums :D Hoorah. I just picked up this summer a 72 eliminator w/ a 455 Olds in it. Everything is in -great- condition except the pump (berkley pump), it slightly leaks and id like to rebuild it. The problem is I know exactly nothing about what a pump looks like inside, or how exactly it works. Anyone got any good links/reads i could check out? or perhaps a rough estimate on what it costs to get the pump rebuilt (or a kit to do it myself although im a bit shy about it) Any contributions would be greatly appreciated!
New Jetter
-Brad

[Brooski]

Here ya go, this oughta start you out.
http://www.cpperformance.com/TechTips/Berkeley-Rebuild/default.htm

[Bradf]

Oh wow, thanks alot! Nice site.

[IMPATIENT 1]

Hey guys, hows it going? As you can see im new to the forums :D Hoorah. I just picked up this summer a 72 eliminator w/ a 455 Olds in it. Everything is in -great- condition except the pump (berkley pump), it slightly leaks and id like to rebuild it. The problem is I know exactly nothing about what a pump looks like inside, or how exactly it works. Anyone got any good links/reads i could check out? or perhaps a rough estimate on what it costs to get the pump rebuilt (or a kit to do it myself although im a bit shy about it) Any contributions would be greatly appreciated!
New Jetter
-Brad
BRAD ,IT ISN'T THAT BAD IF YA HAVE ANY WRENCH EXPERIENCE.SQUIRTIN THUNDER HAS A SELL GOIN ON HIS MASTER OVERHAUL KITS.HE HAS THE BEST PRICES I'VE SEEN ON EM SO FAR.MIGHT TRACK HIM DOWN AND PM HIM FOR INFO.I'VE BUILT A COUPLE BEFORE I FOUND THIS SITE AND WITHOUT ANY HELP THEY CAME OUT FINE.STILL RUNNIN THE 1ST ONE I DID REAL HARD(MY TAYLOR).

[Rondane]

BRAD ,IT ISN'T THAT BAD IF YA HAVE ANY WRENCH EXPERIENCE.SQUIRTIN THUNDER HAS A SELL GOIN ON HIS MASTER OVERHAUL KITS.HE HAS THE BEST PRICES I'VE SEEN ON EM SO FAR.MIGHT TRACK HIM DOWN AND PM HIM FOR INFO.I'VE BUILT A COUPLE BEFORE I FOUND THIS SITE AND WITHOUT ANY HELP THEY CAME OUT FINE.STILL RUNNIN THE 1ST ONE I DID REAL HARD(MY TAYLOR).
i thought there was a thing here about SPAM? If you look around thats really a normal price anywhere for kits. Don't see what he big deal is. ST needs to give it a rest. Do they have a bed here for ya or something?
Just buy the seloc book to guide you thru and get your kit close so you can save on shipping. Shipping can be a doozy on this stuff if your not careful.

[El Prosecutor]

i thought there was a thing here about SPAM? If you look around thats really a normal price anywhere for kits. Don't see what he big deal is. ST needs to give it a rest. Do they have a bed here for ya or something?
Just buy the seloc book to guide you thru and get your kit close so you can save on shipping. Shipping can be a doozy on this stuff if your not careful.
I need a kit and haven't bought one yet, but I for one hope ST doesn't "give it a rest". He is one of a handful that really make this board as great as it is. I was in the same position as Brad when I joined the board in December, and I now have my pump torn down and ready to rebuild, due largely to ST's (and a few others') willingness to answer questions. If Mr. ST, or anyone else willing to give there valuable time and expertise to newbies on the boards gets some advertising stroke out of the deal I say "more power to 'em".

[IMPATIENT 1]

i thought there was a thing here about SPAM? If you look around thats really a normal price anywhere for kits. Don't see what he big deal is. ST needs to give it a rest. Do they have a bed here for ya or something?
Just buy the seloc book to guide you thru and get your kit close so you can save on shipping. Shipping can be a doozy on this stuff if your not careful.
you ever herd of keepin business in the family. we keep our business amongst fellow ***boaters. i've herd there's a section for you over in the "know it all fucs" forums. :idea:

[Slacker]

Bradf, some people know it all..... for those of us who dont this is what the forum is for. Look up in the search section, you can usually find alot of info there.. It has helped me out in the past..ST is always out there trying to help people !

[sidewound]

If you have any mechanical aptitude you can do it yourself. You will need a couple specialty tools though. If you can borrow them that's cool. I made my own.
I'm not a cheerleader but I got what I thought was a good price from Duane at htp for the kit and he bent over backwards for me repairing the shaft and with advice on doing the rebuild. Just my experience. I was very happy with the results.
Good luck with your project!
Peace Man! :cool:
CESAR

[Mighty Thor]

Everything is in -great- condition except the pump (berkley pump), it slightly leaks and id like to rebuild it.
-Brad
I am sure some one has already mentioned it in a PM but I will post it here, are you sure it needs to be rebuilt? The jets are supposed to leak a little around the packing gland so that it does not heat up as the shaft turns. In other words, a little drip of water at the front of the pump might be normal.

[El Prosecutor]

Here is a great link for rebuilding a Berkeley pump:
http://www.americanturbine.com/downloads/pdf/oh_manuals/berk_oh_manual.pdf
There is more than one way to skin a cat, but this manual has a clear description and photos.

[Bradf]

Thanks for the great responses. Oh, and I now know how to properly spell "Berkeley"... :P

[painterdan32]

I'm a painter by profession and there arent too many jet boats on our lake here in western Ohio and even less people who want to work on them. I ordered my rebuild kit from cpperformance and a waiting paitiently to recieve it. Now I'm worried about shipping charges. Last year I couldn't keep belts on the front of the motor. this fall though everyone says I can do away with my water pump (the offending problem) . Which brings up the issues of What the dickens this engine should look like up front, where does water go, what other parts do I need for this set up, and why is there no water return jackets in the rear of the engine. I'm so confused and being a painter and not a mechanic, I really dont know where to start. Hours and hours searching the internet on dial up is just driving me crazy. anybody help me? Daniel.

[Squirtin Thunder]

I'm a painter by profession and there arent too many jet boats on our lake here in western Ohio and even less people who want to work on them. I ordered my rebuild kit from cpperformance and a waiting paitiently to recieve it. Now I'm worried about shipping charges. Last year I couldn't keep belts on the front of the motor. this fall though everyone says I can do away with my water pump (the offending problem) . Which brings up the issues of What the dickens this engine should look like up front, where does water go, what other parts do I need for this set up, and why is there no water return jackets in the rear of the engine. I'm so confused and being a painter and not a mechanic, I really dont know where to start. Hours and hours searching the internet on dial up is just driving me crazy. anybody help me? Daniel.
Send me some pics by email; jrpm@npgcable.com
That will give us a starting point.
Berkeley Jet Drive Overhaul Kits (http://www2.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1754928#post1754928post1754928)

[shootingstar72683]

I'm a painter by profession and there arent too many jet boats on our lake here in western Ohio and even less people who want to work on them. I ordered my rebuild kit from cpperformance and a waiting paitiently to recieve it. Now I'm worried about shipping charges. Last year I couldn't keep belts on the front of the motor. this fall though everyone says I can do away with my water pump (the offending problem) . Which brings up the issues of What the dickens this engine should look like up front, where does water go, what other parts do I need for this set up, and why is there no water return jackets in the rear of the engine. I'm so confused and being a painter and not a mechanic, I really dont know where to start. Hours and hours searching the internet on dial up is just driving me crazy. anybody help me? Daniel.
Are you running a freash water system on that boat?

[shootingstar72683]

Thanks for the great responses. Oh, and I now know how to properly spell "Berkeley"... :P
They spelled mine wrong on the pump too. lol :cool:

[Bradf]

They spelled mine wrong on the pump too. lol :cool:
Haha.

[UBFJ #454]

A link to another source for Berkeley Parts ... In the context of 'Comparative Shopping'.
http://www.berkeleyjet.com/products/default.htm

[Jeanyus]

i thought there was a thing here about SPAM? If you look around thats really a normal price anywhere for kits. Don't see what he big deal is. ST needs to give it a rest. Do they have a bed here for ya or something?
Just buy the seloc book to guide you thru and get your kit close so you can save on shipping. Shipping can be a doozy on this stuff if your not careful.
In that case,you will probably be better off if you try not to think.

[Rondane]

I'm a painter by profession and there arent too many jet boats on our lake here in western Ohio and even less people who want to work on them. I ordered my rebuild kit from cpperformance and a waiting paitiently to recieve it. Now I'm worried about shipping charges.
Try dons pump or the jet connection in toledo cant get any closer. I ordered something small from CP once and the shipping was ALOT more than the $20 part....never again. I called to find out what the deal was and just got the run around. They have great prices but they must balance the to make up and overcharge on shipping so be careful and keep that in mind.
Hey check your PM's..where do you boat?
ron

[Squirtin Thunder]

Try dons pump or the jet connection in toledo cant get any closer. I ordered something small from CP once and the shipping was ALOT more than the $20 part....never again. I called to find out what the deal was and just got the run around. They have great prices but they must balance the to make up and overcharge on shipping so be careful and keep that in mind.
Hey check your PM's..where do you boat?
ron
Ron,
First of all it is not spam when the question is asked on price, and what is included. Second I understand your frustration with shipping cost, but lets say you purchase a Stainless kit from me, not saying you would, to your door shipping would be $21. That is almost a $1400 kit and quite heavy with the stainless impeller, shipped directly to your door from CP Performance. On another note Summit will charge you $10 handling for a gasket set as well as a BBC head. So it is all about the same. I charge $17 to ship a "B" kit or a "A" kit because that is what I am charged.
Ron I am not sure who you are and don't quite care, but to be a new guy and start slamming people that you don't know is quite wrong. Some day you will be in need and may need their help. Just something to think about.
Have a nice day
Jim

[Chopper]

I know its not around the corner for you!
But I like dealing with the Guy at ARS Marine
Fair Prices and has alot of pump parts on the shelf, He also rebuilt my Pump Stage two & Rigged the boat with a shoe and ride plate.
Here is a link to there Web Site www.arsmarine.com

[steelcomp]

IMPATIENT 1:there's a section for you over in the "know it all fucs" forums.
Hee hee. LMFAO!! Good one!! :D

[Squirtin Thunder]

Some Ebay prices right now;
Berkeley Master Overhaul Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605549957&ru=http://motors.search.ebay.com:80/4605549957_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1)
Manual Place Diverter Kit ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605550628&ru=http://motors.search.ebay.com:80/4605550628_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1)
Berkeley Stainless Impeller ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605551209&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605551209%26fvi%3D1)
Berkeley 12JA-A Jet Drive (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605552149&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605552149%26fvi%3D1)
Berkeley Factory Tool Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605639075&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605639075%26fvi%3D1)
Berkeley "A" Aluminum Impeller (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605640765&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605640765%26fvi%3D1)
Berkeley Partial Overhaul Kit B ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605642703&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605642703%26fvi%3D1)
Berkeley Seals & Gaskets Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4605643831&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4605643831%26fvi%3D1)

[flat broke]

Some Ebay prices right now;
Master Overhaul Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4605549957&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT)
Manual Place Diverter (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4605550628&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT)
Stainless "A" Impeller (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4605551209&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT)
Berkeley 12JA-A Jet Drive (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4605552149&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT)
HEY MODS,
Doesn't this constitute spam? The items listed are for sale by ST, and as such should be treated as spam as per the new rules around here. If you guys are going to jump on people promoting their business in their sig line, I don't see why it would be any different in this instance. Personally I think the new spam rules are for sucks, but if a guy that's just trying to sell his boat has to play by em, so should the the guy that is exploiting this site for the purpose of advertising his services.
Chris

[Bradf]

To much drama. Im 22 and I feel like the "old guy" already haha. I think everyone knows where the line should be drawn for "spam". Its like sinning... you just dont go shoot 33' offshore boat on the parker strip making huge wakes guy in the face. Even if he does deserve it, its not right and you just know that. I did ask for pricing on rebuilds so its okay in this thread. It wasnt a random spam in a non-rebuilding topic.

[flat broke]

Brad,
I appreciate what you're trying to say. But my previous statement was nowhere near the analogy you used. I understand you were looking for info; to that effect all he had to do was PM you, or say,
"a rebuild kit costs from x to y depending on where you get it." To each their own, and sorry if you feel like your thread got hijacked. BTW, if you hang around long enough, you'll also probably realize that just because someone has 6,000 posts to their credit, doesn't mean that many, if any of them were particularly insightful. ;)
BTW, welcome to the boards.
Chris

[460 jus getn it]

spam no spam....who cares, jim is just trying to help people out. if a guy can come here and get the stuff he needs at a good price then it shouldnt matter. we are all in the game of helping a fellow boater out, right, well most of us are some like to bad mouth as much as they can...................

[Bradf]

Okay okay so I embellished on the analogy a little lol. No worries. Noowwww, back to finding a flexplate! Hoorah.
Insanely Crazy About tinkering on His Boat to the point where his girlfriend is getting frustrated,
Brad

[Jacamo]

Ron,
First of all it is not spam when the question is asked on price, and what is included. Second I understand your frustration with shipping cost, but lets say you purchase a Stainless kit from me, not saying you would, to your door shipping would be $21. That is almost a $1400 kit and quite heavy with the stainless impeller, shipped directly to your door from CP Performance. On another note Summit will charge you $10 handling for a gasket set as well as a BBC head. So it is all about the same. I charge $17 to ship a "B" kit or a "A" kit because that is what I am charged.
Ron I am not sure who you are and don't quite care, but to be a new guy and start slamming people that you don't know is quite wrong. Some day you will be in need and may need their help. Just something to think about.
Have a nice day
Jim
Squirtin blunder..............every time you open your mouth :idea: ............it just says what a dumb F U C K you're :idea: .........................I don't care who your're friends with or who you think your friends are...........deep down inside they know what a DUMB F U C K you're :idea:
Thanks for you worthless jiber jaber :idea:
Your friend Jacamo :rollside:
Just turnin the wheel :idea: :boxed:

[460 jus getn it]

Squirtin blunder..............every time you open your mouth :idea: ............it just says what a dumb F U C K you're :idea: .........................I don't care who your're friends with or who you think your friends are...........deep down inside they know what a DUMB F U C K you're :idea:
Thanks for you worthless jiber jaber :idea:
Your friend Jacamo :rollside:
Just turnin the wheel :idea: :boxed:why dont you tell us how you really feel.............people bag on jim all day for what cause he is trying to help people out, jim has helped me out alot so i have nothing bad to say about him. you guys amaze me you rip jim and what he is trying to do. but in reality if you need something and he has it i bet you will be calling........

[Squirtin Thunder]

Squirtin blunder..............every time you open your mouth :idea: ............it just says what a dumb F U C K you're :idea: .........................I don't care who your're friends with or who you think your friends are...........deep down inside they know what a DUMB F U C K you're :idea:
Thanks for you worthless jiber jaber :idea:
Your friend Jacamo :rollside:
Just turnin the wheel :idea: :boxed:
Thank you for being so pleasant, it is always so nice to hear from you. You add so much to this forum, products and services, extremely intelligent comments and always willing to help others at any time of day.

[Jordy]

You add so much to this forum, products and services, extremely intelligent comments and always willing to help others at any time of day.
Hey Quotin' Spammer, not everyone uses this board as a source of income so what does it matter if someone doesn't offer products and services??? Seems to me you're on thin ice already with your spam tatics. Personally, if it were me, I might tone it down a bit. ;)

[El Prosecutor]

The trouble with spam on the boards is that it interrupts discussion on a topic.
1) Whether you agree with him or not, Jim's "spam" usually contains good and/or interesting on-topic info along with anything that might be called spam.
2) Amateur spam police interrupt the discussion 5 times as much as Jim ever does.
3) Now I am interrupting the discussion myself by griping about amateur spam police - It could go on forever. :yuk:
Howsabout if any of us don't like a post we just report it to the moderator or send a private message to the offender instead of hijacking the thread?
Or, we could just use the scroll wheel or arrow key and move right past the "spam". It's easier than turning the page in a magazine.
All the griping is ruining the board in a way that spam never could!! :220v:

[Bradf]

Yea, when its all said and done. Even if it was spam, it was more helpful than the foul mouthed complaints.

[Bradf]

Squirtin blunder..............every time you open your mouth :idea: ............it just says what a dumb F U C K you're :idea: .........................I don't care who your're friends with or who you think your friends are...........deep down inside they know what a DUMB F U C K you're :idea:
Thanks for you worthless jiber jaber :idea:
Your friend Jacamo :rollside:
Just turnin the wheel :idea: :boxed:
Also, if you're going to call someone else a "DUMB F U C K" atleast do it at a 3rd grade english level.
None of this was called for...

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Squirtin blunder..............every time you open your mouth :idea: ............it just says what a dumb F U C K you're :idea: .........................I don't care who your're friends with or who you think your friends are...........deep down inside they know what a DUMB F U C K you're :idea:
Thanks for you worthless jiber jaber :idea:
Your friend Jacamo :rollside:
Just turnin the wheel :idea: :boxed:
Hey dumbass!!!!!! How can you open your mouth when your postcount is ONLY 45????You havent been here long enough to know anyone. Dont roll up here and talk like that to any fellow boater on here! I dont know who you are and dont care who you are! If your going to post things like that then go to another forum,where people act like that. This is where we help each other and not bash one another. Opinion are great but we dont need that kind of negativity here. If you you dont like the spam then dont read it, scroll down and look past it......
Just my 2 pennies
396

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Also, if you're going to call someone else a "DUMB F U C K" atleast do it at a 3rd grade english level.
None of this was called for...
Agreed;)

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

HEY MODS,
Doesn't this constitute spam? The items listed are for sale by ST, and as such should be treated as spam as per the new rules around here. If you guys are going to jump on people promoting their business in their sig line, I don't see why it would be any different in this instance. Personally I think the new spam rules are for sucks, but if a guy that's just trying to sell his boat has to play by em, so should the the guy that is exploiting this site for the purpose of advertising his services.
Chris
Chris, I understand where your comming from but I see alot of other peeps on here that spam and nobody says anything about it. Take for instance superdave, he posts about his new fittings and battery boxes and nobody bashes him. Why is that? What about froggy and his trident boats? If your going to read the book then you should read both sides of the pages! Maybe its a cliqish thing, I dont know.....

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Ok since were talking about SPAM!
Why is it ok for certain peeps to have stuff like this......
E-ticket Website
http://www.igonet.biz/cawealth
THis was taken from users signatures......

[HammerDown]

Ok since were talking about SPAM!
Why is it ok for certain peeps to have stuff like this......
It's not!
And this thread is off topic.