Jelly Fish vs Jet...Who wins?

[jrork]

Hmmm, Got a question.
Was out in the salt this weekend (I know, I know), and was ripping thru what Budlight called the speed alley. Running at a nice clip around 56OO following a 38' Fountain.
I noticed as we entered the alley it was full of jelly fish......Frickin things were EVERYWHERE!
So,
1. Does the presence of something that has a consistency somewhat firmer than water (but not by much) add or reduce the amount of thrust a jet can provide?
2. Given that the 38' Fountain was spinning twin big blocks, which did a better job of blending the jelly fish? This is a variation of the classic Prop vs. Jet discussion that I'm not sure anyone else has asked. I know, you can thank me later.
Now someone brighter than me would have watched the tach to see if there was a noticeble change in rpms, but I'm afraid I did not. So, I pose these questions to the all knowing here on the board........
John (aka, Food Processor Pilot)

[DMOORE]

Having spent Many years in the SEAL teams and running both prop and jets in in jellyfish "infested" waters, I have never seen a boat develop a problem due to them. Never a difference in speed, nor any problems with cooling. Now kelp, thats a whole different story.
Darrell.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

The jet wins over the 2x BB prop from cool factor. "Airborne Jelly-fish Cloud" roost!! :) :) :)

[1978 Rogers]

"Airborne Jelly-fish Cloud" roost!! :) :) :)
You are correct. The flesh substance of a jelly fish is slightly lighter than water causing more hang time on the roost.

[LAFD]

The jet wins over the 2x BB prop from cool factor. "Airborne Jelly-fish Cloud" roost!! :) :) :)
that would be fricken awesome. stupid jelly fish.

[Legal Chemistry]

You shouldn't have any problem... I've sucked MANY up and spit 'em right back out. Also depending are where you are -they more than likely won't sting.

[spectratoad]

Should have had some peanut butter to go with your jelly fish. :)

[Legal Chemistry]

okay, now you kow what we're talking about... This is what we normally get here on the lower west coast. Moon Jellies. I remember as kids swimming in the harbours grabbing/crushing/ and throwing these at buddies. BTW, these don't sting
http://www.bipster.net/hawaii/images/26-jellyfish.jpg

[Gayleen]

John,
Too bad you don't have a real pump with a diverter. (Sorry John, I could help it.) That would have been really cool.
I saw a piece of bark fly about a foot above the roast, that was cool.

[DMOORE]

When you hit someone in the face with one, it looks like snot.
Darrell.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

When you hit someone in the face with one, it looks like snot.
Darrell.
Now THAT is worthless without pix. :cry: :cry: :cry:

[jrork]

I am so proud that this thread has provided nothing but worthless information. Exactly what I was hoping for, no drama, just bull$hit.... :D
The jelly fish in the pics are the same we have here. No sting, nasty, slimy and great fun to throw at your friends.
Wish it wasn't the end of the day when I came across them. Would have been fun to play around in there and seen what I could come up with..

[jrork]

John,
Too bad you don't have a real pump with a diverter. (Sorry John, I could help it.) That would have been really cool.
I saw a piece of bark fly about a foot above the roast, that was cool.
Gayleen, I may bring one and run it thru your blender on Sunday. See how your squigies taste then....... :yuk:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Hmmm, Got a question.
2. Given that the 38' Fountain was spinning twin big blocks, which did a better job of blending the jelly fish? This is a variation of the classic Prop vs. Jet discussion that I'm not sure anyone else has asked. I know, you can thank me later.
John (aka, Food Processor Pilot)
(with a particularly nasal accent ..............reminiscent of Cool Hand Luke)
What we had here ...... was the difference between ............... a Vegomatic (it slices, it dices, it makes THOUSNDS of julienne fries (whatever the he11 a "julienne" fry is)) ..... and a blender, set on Frape'! :idea:
The props would slice and chop nicely, but between the top loader, the impeller, and the bowl vanes, you get a nice, smooth, even, "jelly-shake", airborne, fire-hose, "jelly-shake". :p :rollside: :rollside:

[jrork]

Solid point Smoke but let me first say that while I am a jet guy, I can certainly see the value in counter rotating props of a twin and the blending ability that they would provide.
Now, the key I guess is for me to find out if the Fountain had props that rotate towards the center of the boat or rotate away from the center.
I recall that there is a bit of a science to which boats run what but if they're rotating towards the center even you can see the quality of the blending they would accomplish.
Still, the thought of a nice roost of frappe'd jelly fish does paint a nice picture (so to speak).

[jrork]

I hear tell they add about 23 mph's to the top speed buy I'd imagine it depends on what flavor they were.....yeah I know........ :yuk:
Jeez......where's the damn GPS. I could have snapped a picture showing the big numbers speed wise and posted my boat for sale on Ebay.
I can see it now.
"78 Brendella for sale. Way too fast for me. Racing engine with roller pushrods and racing aluminum valves. GPS'd a 1bazillion mph. Serious racers only inquire about this machine. Reserve set at $39,453"
Damn it..... I could have been rich

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Jeez......where's the damn GPS. I could have snapped a picture showing the big numbers speed wise and posted my boat for sale on Ebay.
I can see it now.
"78 Brendella for sale. Way too fast for me. Racing engine with roller pushrods and racing aluminum valves. GPS'd a 1bazillion mph. Serious racers only inquire about this machine. Reserve set at $39,453"
Damn it..... I could have been rich
Hey, I think I saw that very add on e-bay some time back .... sure looks familiar. You didn't buy it did ya??? :p

[jrork]

No, but I did bid on it......you price aluminum valves lately?

[Pops@Aggressor]

Don't Ski Behind this One. it could HURT!

[Wicked Performance Boats]

John, Sorry it took so long to respond, my computer was down. Clear or white jellyfish[moon jellies] increase speed by 10%, yellow ones 20%, and red ones 28 1/2%! I believe a jet pump which draws off the bottom 6 feet down will purifiy more, but dual beaters will chop them finer! BL

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Clear or white jellyfish[moon jellies] increase speed by 10%, yellow ones 20%, and red ones 28 1/2%! I believe a jet pump which draws off the bottom 6 feet down will purifiy more, but dual beaters will chop them finer! BL
Damn Wicked, that's great. :cool: Who says there isn't a ton of highly valuable information on squirt-boats here! :crossx:

[Wicked Performance Boats]

Damn Wicked, that's great. :cool: Who says there isn't a ton of highly valuable information on squirt-boats here! :crossx:
:D

[jrork]

John, Sorry it took so long to respond, my computer was down. Clear or white jellyfish[moon jellies] increase speed by 10%, yellow ones 20%, and red ones 28 1/2%! I believe a jet pump which draws off the bottom 6 feet down will purifiy more, but dual beaters will chop them finer! BL
Crap! Between the performance adding characteristics of Jellys and the increased bouyancy of the Salt Water, I bet I was running enough numbers to show you highblingingbighittin go fast boys from down south a thing or two. Hell, I might have been able to crack 60mph!

[Wicked Performance Boats]

You smoke crack at 60mph!!!! Damm yer good. BL

[Wicked Performance Boats]

Don't forget that the air at sea level is the best. And you can't get any closer that that! BL

[jrork]

You smoke crack at 60mph!!!! Damm yer good. BL
That hurts. That really hurts Pat.....how could you say such a thing?

[jrork]

Dble Crap! How could I forget the air. Natural supercharging at it's best.
62?

[Wicked Performance Boats]

That hurts. That really hurts Pat.....how could you say such a thing?
Did I say smoking crack? I meant your smokin butt crack! BL

[Wicked Performance Boats]

this just makes me want to run out and find some jellyfish to see what it looks like in person:crossx::crossx:
Go west young man! { The Pacific ocean } BL

[jrork]

Did I say smoking crack? I meant your smokin butt crack! BL
Okay, that's better.........thanks

[Harley5229]

John you should have brought some of these jellyfish for show and tell at Alder Labor Day...maybe we could have thrown them all at eachother lakeside!!!!

[malcolm]

Yeah, that could've been fun. ;)

[Harley5229]

John this is oh so simple to explain...let me try...
If the jellyfish are expelling with the jet at a rate faster than the increase of jellyfish by the prop, then the law of jellyfish osmosis would assume The force per unit area required to prevent the movement of jellyfish from an area of high concentration to an area of low concentration would create a jellyfish rooster of greater proportion in the jet than the prop. So you win.
what's so hard to understand????:rollside::confused:

[malcolm]

:jawdrop:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

John this is oh so simple to explain...let me try...
If the jellyfish are expelling with the jet at a rate faster than the increase of jellyfish by the prop, then the law of jellyfish osmosis would assume The force per unit area required to prevent the movement of jellyfish from an area of high concentration to an area of low concentration would create a jellyfish rooster of greater proportion in the jet than the prop. So you win.
what's so hard to understand????:rollside::confused:
Yep, that pretty much summs it up in a nutshell. :)
I think. :idea: :confused: :confused:
:D

[bighead]

What about chunks of the jellyfish getting passed into the cooling system of the boat and possibly cooking inside and causing blockage??? I wonder what they taste like........

[SmokinLowriderSS]

What about chunks of the jellyfish getting passed into the cooling system of the boat and possibly cooking inside and causing blockage??? I wonder what they taste like........
Hmmmmmmmmm.......
Could one, install some temporary strainer baskets, over the exhaust outlets, to catch/strain the cooked jellyfish, for the beach dinner later on? :idea: Would they go better with Tortilla chips, Scoops corn chips, or Ruffles? :idea:

[Wicked Performance Boats]

A bowl of them with beach sand for texture and to fight that slippery side down the throat like a lugee. BL :yuk:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

So they don't stiffen up like eggs when poached or parboiled eh? Hmmmmmm Was hoping they would ..... :yuk:

[Wicked Performance Boats]

Naw it's like stringy water. BL

[bighead]

Man would it be great to be in some jellyfish infested waters where lake lice were dangerously close wake crossing and shoot a nice jellyfish roost all over them, especially the stinging type. I like riding them and have no prob with the responsible riders, just the unsafe idiots.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Yep. The dangerous idiots piss us all off. :mad: :mad:
I don't mind the decent ones.
ARE THERE decently inteligent PWC-ers, or did they all buy boats? :crossx:

[Wicked Performance Boats]

ARE THERE decently inteligent PWC-ers, or did they all buy boats? Yep, the ones that tow us in when we breakdown!!! BL

[rivertard]

A bowl of them with beach sand for texture and to fight that slippery side down the throat like a lugee. BL :yuk:JUST ADD PEANUT BUTTER,AND BEER.(rivertard).Its all good. :rollside:

[BOOGEYMAN]

http://pagentsprogress.com/?p=319
Check out these jelly fish!!!

[SmokinLowriderSS]

DAMN! You could hit onme of those and wind up airborne! :2purples:

[BOOGEYMAN]

Thats what I was thinking!!!! That jelly fish would probly win the fight with a jet boat. LOL

[ULTRA26 # 1]

The jet wins over the 2x BB prop from cool factor. "Airborne Jelly-fish Cloud" roost!! :) :) :)
That was funny, What a sight!

[jrork]

Jezus! I can't believe this cornball post of mine is still going. Got to admit the visual some of you guys have painted is pretty f***ing funny.
As far as Rivertards suggestion, doesn't everything taste good with peanut butter and beer? I'm pretty sure you'd have all the major food groups covered.....

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Would the better "match" tho be the Creamy or the Chunky? Jiff or Skippy. Preference?

[CARLSON-JET]

Jrork, I used to live right next to the Illahee dock back around 82-83. (North side) There were certain times of the year that the 3"-4" jellies would be breading(?) or something. Anyways, the sheer amount of them was a sight to see. 10's of thousands as far as the eye could see. So that being said, at certain times the small squids 6"-8" long would also run and they were just as thick. I wonder how those would look getting shot out the back of a good roost? A little more gristle involved compared to the jellies. and then all that black ink.. would probably look like kool-aid LOL. And yes, This is a hillarious thread. R.B.

[jrork]

Jrork, I used to live right next to the Illahee dock back around 82-83. (North side) There were certain times of the year that the 3"-4" jellies would be breading(?) or something. Anyways, the sheer amount of them was a sight to see. 10's of thousands as far as the eye could see. So that being said, at certain times the small squids 6"-8" long would also run and they were just as thick. I wonder how those would look getting shot out the back of a good roost? A little more gristle involved compared to the jellies. and then all that black ink.. would probably look like kool-aid LOL. And yes, This is a hillarious thread. R.B.
Hey! I know exactly where you use to live. Nice area. I thought squids only came out in the evening? All my years on the salt I've never seen one though I know lots of folks that go to the Illahee dock at night for squid'n.
Where ya hanging your hat now days?

[Wicked Performance Boats]

Hey! I know exactly where you use to live. Nice area. I thought squids only came out in the evening? All my years on the salt I've never seen one though I know lots of folks that go to the Illahee dock at night for squid'n.
Where ya hanging your hat now days?
I think I hit a few parties at that house!!! course it was years ago. Budlight

[jrork]

I remember you there Pat! You had that kickass mullett..... :rollside:

[CARLSON-JET]

Somebody had a few parties there before we moved in. :220v: In 2 years I still don't think I got rid of all the beer cans from Mt. Bud.
I honestly don't remember what time those darn squid surfaced but it was a freaky sight.
Most folks don't believe me when I tell them my backyard was an underwater national park. It would have been really cool to have something other then a Valco with a 15 Horse to cruise around in. Pops wouldn't let me use his boat after a minor mis-hap at the launch down the road. I must have flipped the pawl on the winch getting to happy. :cry: Those were some good times...

[Wicked Performance Boats]

I remember you there Pat! You had that kickass mullett..... :rollside:
Thanks John, I used to have all those cool haircuts! Now I'm stuck with a grey and white flattop. Oh well, at least I still got most my hair!! Budlight