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TRIMMIN
08-30-2006, 01:26 PM
I have a '72 Biesemeyer 16.5 with a Hall Craft gear box. We are building a full roller 383 stroker for it now. What kind of power can this box handle? Also does anyone know any history on this boat? Bob at Glenwood remembers it to have started life as a direct drive. Thanks

Mr. V-Driver
08-31-2006, 07:57 AM
Maybe 350hp Max. The later style Menkens handles more power thanks to Tom's ability to neck down the shafts to accept Casale Gears. The Billet Menkens cases work as well, and you could always drop a Casale split case in there and never worry about a horsepower issue! As you go up in hp you should go up in size on your shafts. 1" to 1 1/8" output.
Good Luck on Project!!!

dmontzsta
08-31-2006, 08:01 AM
I had a Hall Craft box in a Mandella I sold. That was the most puniest looking box I have ever seen.

fc-pilot
08-31-2006, 08:46 AM
Give Tom at Menkins v-drives a call. He will be able to give you valid info on what you have and it’s potential.
Paul

steveo143
08-31-2006, 03:05 PM
I have a 12* casale with 18 gears that would drop right in.

fc-pilot
08-31-2006, 03:17 PM
Trimmin, I sent you a PM.
Paul

DUCKY
09-02-2006, 09:25 AM
I had a Hall-Craft in my first boat (a 1960 Biesemeyer). If I remember correctly, it had 1 3/8" 10 spline shafts which should be able to handle virtually any small block out there. My boat came equipped with a tri-power 409 that was replaced by a fairly wicked 383. Hardest part will be getting gears in it, and that's where Tom might come in handy. Obviously a Casale Split Case is the way to go if you are throwing big power at it.

Kindsvater Flat
09-02-2006, 11:41 AM
10* straight cut with 19 gears. Works fine for me. Been changed gears from a set of 12's a couple of years ago. Had bearings once back in 1980.
http://www.schoutenranch.com/miscboat/440/new/a2.JPG

MWJSOne
09-02-2006, 06:31 PM
Depending on the Box it self Tom from Menkins v-drives was buying the hall crafts V drives and mod ding them pretty tuff box for a De rect drive.

napabob
09-03-2006, 10:34 AM
Tom Menkens web site:
http://www.menkensvdrives.com/

TRIMMIN
09-03-2006, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the info on Tom. I'm sure I'll need his services someday. From his website it looks like I have the "Early" model. What happens when they go boom, do I need to duck? Thanks fc.

DUCKY
09-03-2006, 11:08 PM
My Hall-Craft didn't look like that...
Mine was a parallel shaft that bolted into a cast aluminum bracket to acheive shaft angle. That's why I made the comment about hard to find gears.... Mine was 1.10

scottys
09-04-2006, 12:16 AM
I had a Hall-Craft in my first boat (a 1960 Biesemeyer). If I remember correctly, it had 1 3/8" 10 spline shafts which should be able to handle virtually any small block out there. My boat came equipped with a tri-power 409 that was replaced by a fairly wicked 383. Hardest part will be getting gears in it, and that's where Tom might come in handy. Obviously a Casale Split Case is the way to go if you are throwing big power at it.
Do you still have the 409? :crossx:

DUCKY
09-04-2006, 10:33 PM
No, but I wish I did. I was young(er) and dumb(er) at the time. Paid $500 for the boat when I was 15. The motor had a cracked block (probably repairable) and I sold the motor for $500. I realized later the the manifold and carbs were worth more than that by themselves...Oh Well :rollside:

72 Hondo
09-05-2006, 07:24 AM
10* straight cut with 19 gears. Works fine for me. Been changed gears from a set of 12's a couple of years ago. Had bearings once back in 1980.
http://www.schoutenranch.com/miscboat/440/new/a2.JPG
I have this same V-Drive in my Hondo. My Dad ran it for years with no problems, He kept it cool and had no bearing problems ever. With strait cut 16´s it was fine but I dont know how it would do with helical gears.