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shaun
09-04-2006, 11:01 PM
This weekend i decided to put my rail kit in. Boy what hell it has been, nothing like trying to get heavy ass motor at the perfect hight and angle and then keeping it at it. Then measuring and measuring and then crossing your fingers that your cuts are right. My install isnt done yet and it's not the cleanest but so far i'm pretty happy with it. Before i drill the holes in the rails i want to see what you guys think of my drive line angle/position. It's pretty damn straight right now buy the looks of it which i know some of you say go straight and some say have a few degree's in it. Anyway what do you think, i need to shave maybe 1/8" off the front plates so they sit flat on the rails (for some reason the bottom plates are angled) so that will change the angle alittle bit.
here's a few pics of the drive line, How's it look?
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12237-1/DSCF4495.JPG
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12246-2/DSCF4498.JPG
And here's all the pics leading up to where i'm at now...
First thing i did was duplicate my motor plates onto cardboard so i could trim the cardboard to figure out what needed to be cut on the real plates.
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12126-2/DSCF4414.JPG
Clamped the rail's together and drilled the holes..
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12186-1/DSCF4448.JPG
3:00AM and i finally got the rails in... a big problem i had was that my stringers are a bit short and my motor sticks out too far. My old mounting system used a 3 point mount so it wasnt a problem then but now it is.. I had to let the rails stick out a bit further. They are sticking out further than they need to be, i will trim them down once i finalize where the motor plates will rest.
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12225-1/DSCF4461.JPG
My dad came over to help, i spent a hell of alot of time hanging over the transom like this..
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12129-2/DSCF4415.JPG
My dad and my little guy, he loves the boat!
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12153-1/DSCF4423.JPG
My GF nagging at me, and the little guy!
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12159-2/DSCF4425.JPG
He's helping check the drive line angle in this one.
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12174-1/DSCF4432.JPG
Rest of pics are here..
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/v/shaun-bryan-reitan/boat01/RailKitInstall/
Here's a pic of the front motor plate that has a slight angle.. this is where i need to take out a 1/8" or so to square it up.
http://reitanfamily.com/gallery/d/12165-2/DSCF4427.JPG
Kit's from Duane@HTP if anybody is looking for one!
supersoaker509
09-05-2006, 03:30 AM
It looks like your coupler is bottoming out in the pump. I think it should come out a 1/2in or so.
Some one install mine that way, and when the thrust bearing went bad it took the crank thrust bearing with it :cry:
Squirtcha?
09-05-2006, 04:58 AM
It looks like your coupler is bottoming out in the pump. I think it should come out a 1/2in or so.
Some one install mine that way, and when the thrust bearing went bad it took the crank thrust bearing with it :cry:
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but he's right. I had the same problem with mine when I first bought it. You'll want about 1/8" - 1/4" of space before the the PTO bottoms out on the pump shaft (I gave mine a 1/4"). Someone will probably have a more exact measurement, but you definitely don't want that thing bottomed out. My crank needed a thrust repair and a new thrust bearing on the pump due this very problem.
MikeF
09-05-2006, 05:13 AM
Definately, do not bottom out the universal onto the end of the pump shaft. Leave room to not have the pump shaft push into the crankshaft in any way.
Looks mostly ok. Make sure the engine is at the same degree angle as the pump and that they are in line w/ each other.
:boxed:
olbiezer
09-05-2006, 08:58 AM
first off i have never done this before.ok with that said.......can u adjust the angle of the motor with the motor plates till u get it perfect? :220v:
shaun
09-05-2006, 10:36 AM
Your all talking about making sure the drive line doesnt butt up against the bearing in the pump? If so i have at least 1/8th of clearance probably way more... I'm going to take a measurment to find out exactly what i have.
olbiezer, from my understanding you usually can, in my case for some reason i really needed about a extra 2" or so on the front plate so i could have had the rails a bit lower. The only plate i cut was the rear. I mounted the rails as high as i could because of this.
flat broke
09-05-2006, 11:54 AM
Your all talking about making sure the drive line doesnt butt up against the bearing in the pump? If so i have at least 1/8th of clearance probably way more... I'm going to take a measurment to find out exactly what i have.
Not only do you not want the driveline hitting the bearing, but you also don't want the end of the pump shaft bottomed out inside the driveline. There needs to be some room so that when the impeller walks forward it's not driving the bearing into the driveline, or the cranshaft into the thrust bearing in the motor.
Hope that helps,
Chris
Rexone
09-05-2006, 12:16 PM
Spicer recommends 1 to 3 degrees of angle (offset), crank and pump shaft should be parallel to each other just offset. I prefer 1-2 degrees on the H portion angle.
shaun
09-07-2006, 11:05 PM
I checked and my original position (the one in those pics above) had probably 3/16ths of clearance. I had to shave some of the plates edges to get them to sit flush on the rails and it through the angle off a little bit, pushed the motor forward so that the drive line has 1/4" clearance and the angle is perfect from what i can tell. The crank and the pump shaft are parallel to each other but the motor is probably 1/16th or a time bit more lower giving some offset. I'm not sure what that comes out to degree wise but i think it's probably just about right.
Duane HTP
09-08-2006, 09:29 AM
Shaun, Your set up looks really good. Nail it down.