Coated Bearings Anti Friction

[Infomaniac]

Just thought I would show what I am having done to these components in every engine. Have contracted with this company to do them for us.
It is not a coating in the typical fashion. This PROCESS bonds with the metal and is only 1/2 micron thick. It does not change the dimension of the component. It will not come off unless the metal comes off.
Great stuff and very reasonable. They will not disclose how it is applied or EXACTLY what it is other than a tungsten disulfide.
I selected these parts because they have been proven to help in other engines. Have not decided to do pistons. But every little bit helps.
http://moritzmachine.com/coated.jpg

[Infomaniac]

Here is a closer view. Puts a blueish tint to the parts.
Can be applied to ANY material. Does not have to be metal.
http://moritzmachine.com/coatedclose.jpg

[Blown 472]

What does it do for the valves and brgs?

[Infomaniac]

It makes anything metal to metal last longer.
We put it on our tooling. Mills inserts etc and they last 3 -5 times longer.
It even improves airflow. It has been put of golf balls and they go twice as far when hit by a golf machine.

[Blown 472]

It makes anything metal to metal last longer.
We put it on our tooling. Mills inserts etc and they last 3 -5 times longer.
It even improves airflow. It has been put of golf balls and they go twice as far when hit by a golf machine.
Is this something you can do for everyone? What does it cost?

[Infomaniac]

Yea it's $225.00 for everything in the picture.
It's not a spam thread. Send me a PM if you want to talk about it.

[squirt]

Used to use that process all the time in bearings for feedthrus used in vacuum applications. We used it because it would not contaminate the systems or processes like most lubricants would, and the load on bearings in vacuum is quite high. I've looked into the process of this coating a few times, due to some quality problems. I know of 1 shop that sprays it and another thats a bath solution. Either way the life cycle testing that I've done on them shows both processes last longer that an uncoated bearing, with the bath solution lasting the longest. With that being said greased bearings lasted the longest in my tests.

[Infomaniac]

Used to use that process all the time in bearings for feedthrus used in vacuum applications. We used it because it would not contaminate the systems or processes like most lubricants would, and the load on bearings in vacuum is quite high. I've looked into the process of this coating a few times, due to some quality problems. I know of 1 shop that sprays it and another thats a bath solution. Either way the life cycle testing that I've done on them shows both processes last longer that an uncoated bearing, with the bath solution lasting the longest. With that being said greased bearings lasted the longest in my tests.
Thats interesting. I'm sure it was a similar process but this one was strictly military until just recently. I have known about it for a number of years but it was 100.00 per square inch back then.. :supp: :supp:
Recently changed ownership. We took some swiss skateboard bearings, cleaned the lube from them and had them done. They are fast as hell running dry. There are only 6 people in the world that know how this particular process is done.
It was actually developed to lubricate where petroleum lubricants cannot be used.

[squirt]

I can't remember how it's spelled but I think it's called dicronite. THe company or " process " was sold about 4 or 5 years ago I think. I could get either moly or tungsten disulfide done by a co in Washington state. Most of the stuff we built was used in our national labs for enegry research.

[wsuwrhr]

DLC?
Diamond like coating?
Is that what it is?
Brian

[Infomaniac]

I dont think its DLC.
This particular process has been protected by the owners and they will not divulge what or how.
It is real cool stuff. That is all I know.

[MikeF]

Where can I buy the golf balls that go twice as far?!:D

[Infomaniac]

Where can I buy the golf balls that go twice as far?!:D
Thats funny.
Actually I have the promo video from a number of years back where they did that test among many others.
The new owners say that newer golf balls do not agree with the process because of the casing they make them out of. It gasses off or something.

[Liberator TJ1984]

Info. , why not do the valve train and cam also ??? :idea:
Those components seem to fail from wear alot...???
If I do the bottom of my boat ? won't it go twice as fast ??? :p

[Infomaniac]

Info. , why not do the valve train and cam also ??? :idea:
Those components seem to fail from wear alot...???
If I do the bottom of my boat ? won't it go twice as fast ??? :p
Well you gotta call it good at some point rather than banzai everything. I have a guy with a top alcohol funny car bringing his cam to get done.
I tried a propeller years ago and could not tell a difference. But I had changed a bunch of other things at the same time.

[Jordy]

I tried a propeller years ago and could not tell a difference.
Wouldn't your slip coefficient just go up if you cut the friction down on the prop??? Seems as though it would lose some of its' bite. :idea:

[UBFJ #454]

For those of you that what to investigate friction reduction coating where it makes a big difference:
http://www.lsmeng.com/Liners.html
These are the guys we use for block prep and cams. They do a lot of cylinder coating for the NASCAR engine builders ... It's Expensive, but, for NASCAR I guess it's worth it ... For us drag racers essentially using throw awat blocks ???
Just passing Info Along .....

[rrrr]

I had the opportunity to look at this coating while visting Ron's shop last week. It looks like the sh*t, and I'm looking forward to reports on how well it works....