circle boat for v-drive??

[Blown 472]

What is the diff between a circle boat or a flattie??

[ACCEPTENCE]

The bottom?????

[Sangster]

The Balls.... :D :D

[Blown 472]

What about the bottom?? is it a v rather than a flat?? if so then it would do better in chop? The reason I asked is I would like to put my motor into a v drive and a I have looked into a project day cruiser and way out my range so now looking for a diff style.

[Jordy]

I don't know that you would want to turn an old race boat into a lake boat (I could be wrong) but it seems that I once heard that the way the boats are layed up (read really light) that they wouldn't do very well with the type of constant pounding that happens at a lake with all the wake and waves. Granted they do take a beating in the races, but they also aren't packed with gear and people. :D

[Blown 472]

Well I weigh enough, mabye it will help smooth out the bumps?? :D

[Jordy]

I was talking more about the boat breaking in two than riding rough... :D

[Blown 472]

Ok, good point, if that is the case who made a v bottom boat for lake use in the 19 to 20 foot range with a v drive?? :confused:

[GofastRacer]

Blown 472:
Ok, good point, if that is the case who made a v bottom boat for lake use in the 19 to 20 foot range with a v drive?? :confused: I run mine in the garbage and it don't break! eek! But if you want a V bottom to haul ass in, this is one of the good ones, 20 ft Raysoncraft!.. :cool:
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Forum_Graphic_Depot/Image042.JPG

[Blown 472]

Cool, thanks, that is a damn nice boat.
Are you driving off the crank snout?? looks like the dist in in the back of the boat??

[GofastRacer]

Blown 472:
Cool, thanks, that is a damn nice boat.
Are you driving off the crank snout?? looks like the dist in in the back of the boat?? That is not mine, it is driving off the snout, mine is a Daytona flat!.. wink

[126driver]

jordanpaulk:
I was talking more about the boat breaking in two than riding rough... :D LMAO! A circle boat built to run at speed in race water certainly isn't going to break in two during lake use, loaded with silvers or not. wink The stringers on a race boat run the full length of the boat. But Jordy's partly right - you probably wouldn't want to take a light SS boat and use it as your daily driver at the lake. An old GN on the other hand would make a kick-ass driver.

[GofastRacer]

Or a "K" boat!!.. wink :D

[Blown 472]

Ok, how do you tell the diff between a GN or a K boat or a lite SS???
[ February 10, 2003, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: Blown 472 ]

[126driver]

Or a K. Did someone already say that? :D

[Jordy]

Hey, up front I said I could be wrong. :D I just think the pounding you'd take at the lake with all the wake boats and deep v's running around would be a bit harsher than any of the race water encountered in a normal race. The breaking in half was an extreme example, but I bet you'd dedicate your life to chasing stress cracks around. An old GN or K would be a sweet ride, or even an old ski race boat like a Spectra or a Schiada. :D

[Jordy]

Blown 472:
Ok, how do you tell the diff between a GN or a K boat or a lite SS??? The spelling. :D :D :D

[Blown 472]

Clear as mud, thanks Jordy. :D :D

[Jordy]

If it's an old race boat, there still may be numbers on the side, hence the spelling.
Generally your SS boats, especially the light layups, will be really low slung with little freeboard, while the K's and GN boats will be overall stouter looking with signifigantly more freeboard... at least that's how I would diferentiate them.

[GofastRacer]

Blown 472:
Ok, how do you tell the diff between a GN or a K boat or a lite SS??? This used to ba a "K" .. wink
http://free.***boat.net/gallery/Reader_Rides/V-Drives/My_Boat2.JPG

[Jordy]

Here is a SS boat:
http://www.superstockracing.com/photos/boats/SS-126%20new.jpg
The SS boats just look skinnier for lack of a better term...

[GofastRacer]

jordanpaulk:
If it's an old race boat, there still may be numbers on the side, hence the spelling.
Generally your SS boats, especially the light layups, will be really low slung with little freeboard, while the K's and GN boats will be overall stouter looking with signifigantly more freeboard... at least that's how I would diferentiate them. K's and SS's are the same but the K's are a lot stouter because of the power they use. My SS I had weighed 460lbs, the K I got now is at lest 625lbs!.. :cool:

[Blown 472]

GofastRacer:
Blown 472:
Ok, how do you tell the diff between a GN or a K boat or a lite SS??? This used to ba a "K" .. wink
http://free.***boat.net/gallery/Reader_Rides/V-Drives/My_Boat2.JPG What kind of hull is that??

[Jordy]

GofastRacer:
K's and SS's are the same but the K's are a lot stouter because of the power they use. My SS I had weighed 460lbs, the K I got now is at lest 625lbs!.. :cool: Your K boat looks a lot beefier than most of the SS boats, and I know there are always exceptions to the rule. :D

[GofastRacer]

It's a Daytona Sprint, another Biesemeyer type boat!.. :)

[GofastRacer]

jordanpaulk:
GofastRacer:
K's and SS's are the same but the K's are a lot stouter because of the power they use. My SS I had weighed 460lbs, the K I got now is at lest 625lbs!.. :cool: Your K boat looks a lot beefier than most of the SS boats, and I know there are always exceptions to the rule. :D Just another Biesemyer!.. :D

[Blown 472]

What year is your Beismeyer?? and how long is it??
One more thing, say I happen across a boat that looks like that but does not have any race numbers or what ever, is there any tell tale things to look for?
[ February 10, 2003, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: Blown 472 ]

[GofastRacer]

Blown 472:
What year is your Beismeyer?? and how long is it??
One more thing, say I happen across a boat that looks like that but does not have any race numbers or what ever, is there any tell tale things to look for? It's 17'6" not counting the plate. If you don't know what to look for, it would be advisable to have someone that's familiar with these boats to look at one with you!.. wink

[CircleJerk]

Not that anyone cares, but my preferance is a heavy hull: 600 lbs or more without hardware. These seem to survive better than the flyweight {SS,PS} over the years. There are a lot of them out there that may have had ski-race or marathon style use. I bought a gull bottom AquaCraft that fits this bill and was in my price range. 555ps aka circleboatkidd's B boat is an old K boat that would also be a good choice. Someone out there can identify them better than I but that's my .o2 worth. JeRk PS: dont overlook a GN Hull!

[Jordy]

jordanpaulk:
An old GN or K would be a sweet ride, or even an old ski race boat like a Spectra or a Schiada. :D I was thinking of a K boat that looks more GN style. But something along the lines of what Jerk was saying (as he was agreeing with me in part :D ) would be a great platform for a lake boat. :D

[GofastRacer]

A GN style would definitly make a good kick ass lake boat, that's what my next boat is going to be!.. :cool:

[Her454]

these boats seem VERY light....
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Raceboat_Arenas/Drag_Boats/crash21.JPG
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Raceboat_Arenas/Circle_Racers/crash11.JPG
[ February 10, 2003, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: Her454 ]

[GofastRacer]

That's because it's an SS!.. wink But, K's end up looking like that too!. :D
[ February 10, 2003, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: GofastRacer ]

[Jordy]

Looks like it might be a couple pounds lighter than it was before that ride. :D

[GofastRacer]

LMAO.. :D

[Her454]

that guy got tossed hard, my daughter took those pics last summer at the Nitro Nationals in Red Bluff.

[GofastRacer]

I believe it!. eek!

[Her454]

I LOVE the Nitro Thunder going down the track, but face it, these guyz shit and git....
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Raceboat_Arenas/Circle_Racers/circle.JPG

[Jordy]

Here is a GN boat so you can see the difference Blown:
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Raceboat_Arenas/Circle_Racers/gn790running1.JPG

[Blown 472]

Ok, I see what you are talking about.
Is there any advantage to running off the crank snout as opposed to the back of the motor?

[78Eliminator]

Blown 472:
Ok, I see what you are talking about.
Is there any advantage to running off the crank snout as opposed to the back of the motor? I was just about to ask that....

[Jordy]

OK, I could be wrong again, but it seems that this topic was just posted a while back and it had to do with turning and the rotation of the motor running the same way as the turns you're making, which it already does on a jet, so the v-drivers wanting to be like jetters, choose to run off the balancer to the motor turns the same way, to the left for all the left turns. :D

[Her454]

jordanpaulk:
so the v-drivers wanting to be like jetters :D My favorite has officially entered the Bench Racers..... :D

[superdave013]

Blown 472:
Ok, I see what you are talking about.
Is there any advantage to running off the crank snout as opposed to the back of the motor? This boat runs off the flywheel. And I might add that it's a hard boat to beat around the race course.
For a lake / play boat keep it off the flywheel. That way you can use a trans if you want to.
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Raceboat_Arenas/Circle_Racers/gn790running1.JPG

[Jordy]

Her454:
My favorite has officially entered the Bench Racers..... :D Shhhh. I don't get that wrapped up in it, but if I can throw a little zing in here and there, but all in fun, then I'll do it. :D Hell, my jet has all kinds of v-drive in it. I dig watching them all run. Who cares as long as it floats right?
So where are we meeting up in Mexico so I can supervise you and the youngster? :D :D :D

[Morg]

It's just this simple,
In a V-drive when you run off the flywheel, If you hammer it & let go of the wheel you will spin Right. (Drag race)-Crank stronger @ flywheel
If you do the same running off of the balancer, you will spin to the left. (Circle race)-Crank not as strong but everyone else turns left, so you should to.
Depending on how much power you are running, you get your head wet either way.
BTW- if you did not figure it out already, GN's are bigger with a semi-V, SS,PS & K's are smaller with a flat bottom. If you want a cruiser that still goe's pretty quick (Cadilac)go GN. If you want a Sprint car feel tahe you can do wheelie's wuth, go with a flatt bottom. (SS,PS,K)
Pretty good for a guy who's boat deosn't run & can't spell- :rolleyes: HUH. :D wink
Morg.

[Jordy]

Morg:
It's just this simple,
Circle race)-Crank not as strong but everyone else turns left, so you should to.
LMAO :D

[FlatRacer]

Blown 472:
Ok, how do you tell the diff between a GN or a K boat or a lite SS??? Lean on the deck. If it gives and flexes under you, it's probably a Super Stock or light Pro Stock. If it feels like you could dance the Tango on it, it's a K boat.
Another major difference is that K boats tend to have much more rocker in the bottom, but this is hard to discern unless you're at a race or some other get-together and you can see a side by side comparison.
FR :p
[ February 10, 2003, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: FlatRacer ]

[126driver]

jordanpaulk:
the v-drivers wanting to be like jetters, choose to run off the balancer to the motor turns the same way, to the left for all the left turns. :D I leave the boards to get a little work done and this thread goes horribly wrong. :rolleyes: jawdrop

[058]

126driver:
jordanpaulk:
the v-drivers wanting to be like jetters, choose to run off the balancer to the motor turns the same way, to the left for all the left turns. :D I leave the boards to get a little work done and this thread goes horribly wrong. :rolleyes: jawdrop What did you expect when the jetters hang out here. I guess they just want to learn about real boats. :D