Aftermarket oil pan question

[1968Droptop]

I just got off the phone with Dooley about an oil pan for my stroked 460. I was a little bit surprised by the price, $708. I knew they were expensive, just didn't know HOW expensive. Any recommedations ? Or is this bout what a 14 qt. pan is going to cost ? I was guessing around $500, but if that's what they cost then that's what I'll do. Just wondered if there were any other choices.

[LakesOnly]

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1624/

[jrork]

Yikes Droppy! I got Milodon used from Toddnjuzz and it's served me very well with no complaints. I know much as been said about Milodon pans but I'm happy.
Buddy of mine got an Armando built for his boat for big $$$ and wasn't really happy with what he got so I guess you never know. I was looking at Stefs but they were more than this old boat was worth......

[jrork]

But then if Lakes says Armandos gots it nailed for BBF you better go with him. He's probably forgotten more than I can ever hope to learn (suckup purely intentional)...

[cstraub]

Yikes Droppy! I got Milodon used from Toddnjuzz and it's served me very well with no complaints. I know much as been said about Milodon pans but I'm happy.
Buddy of mine got an Armando built for his boat for big $$$ and wasn't really happy with what he got so I guess you never know. I was looking at Stefs but they were more than this old boat was worth......
One thing about our pans that most have to consider is we don't start with an OEM stamping. We fabricate the entire pan from the seal radius's to the rails, to the sump. Our Affordable Jet pan for a 460 in aluminum with pan, pickup and pump is $664.00. 3 to 4 weeks leadtime.

[jrork]

Understand completely Chris. The stuff you put out is beautiful and custom and to be honest, your pans are so damn nice I'd wanna put it in the living room as art but the wife would probably kill me. The remark about it being more than my boat is worth is the truth but only because my old wreck aint worth much. Droppy knows.

[502 JET]

Which ever pan you decide on get measurements of it before you purchase and make sure you have enough clearance under your engine.
Just because they call it a jet boat pan doesn't mean it will fit in any boat with a jet pump.A bud of mine found this out the hard way.

[cruser]

Drop,
I recently built a 21 Daytona my self and had to go with a smaller pan than I wanted because of the size of the tunnel in the Daytona. I went with a 10 quart pan but I have an oil cooler also. I don't remember what I paid and I am sure it isn't the greatest pan but I have 80 psi at idle and 90+ at speed. I did notice that on a hard launch the pressure dropped to about 40-50 psi until the boat came up on plane, but with that amount of bow rise, I think any pan would have shown the same symptoms. 40 psi should be enough I think.
Measure from the bottom of the block to the bottom/sides of the tunnel and find a pan that fits.
Mines a Chevy based motor but if you want to come look I'm only 2.5-3 hours south. Here's a couple of pictures:
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/347027_11.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/347014_24.JPG

[Ralph Brunt]

http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/120222-18-05_018-med.jpg http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/120222-18-05_016-med.jpg http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/120222-18-05_007-med.jpg this pan was 375.00 if i remember about a year ago. go over to the 460 site and look there for other 460 options
ralph

[flat broke]

DON'T spend the money on the Dooley. I made that mistake a couple of years ago with my BBC, and I now have a 14 quart pan that I can only run 11qts before the windaging gets out of control.
I'd check into a Olson (http://www.olsonmotorsports.com/), or from what I've heard an Armando's.
Chris

[1968Droptop]

The remark about it being more than my boat is worth is the truth but only because my old wreck aint worth much. Droppy knows.
Your KILLEN me with the old wreck comments. DON'T listen to him, that is one
very very beautiful boat (and it does more than the 50 mph he claims!).
As for the oil pan info, THANKS !!!!!!!1 I'll take some measurements and see what I can fit in there. Biggest hurdle is I don't have the engine yet. It'll be 10 weeks or so before I see it. I'm guessing I'm the only guy putting a Ford into a Daytona ???

[Ken F]

Chris, I just ordered an Armando's pan for my 460 (502) in a Cheyenne.
Should have it in about a week If you aren't in a hurry, I'll let you know if it cures my woes.
Ken F

[poncho-pwr]

Do yourself and your engine a favor and get a Stef's pan.

[Ken F]

If the Armando's doesn't do it I probably will. From Armando's website:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1624/gif/guarantee.gif
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1624/gif/headersm.gif
I havn't seen any other mfgr. say this.
Ken F

[flat broke]

As for the oil pan info, THANKS !!!!!!!1 I'll take some measurements and see what I can fit in there. Biggest hurdle is I don't have the engine yet. It'll be 10 weeks or so before I see it. I'm guessing I'm the only guy putting a Ford into a Daytona ???
The pan should be spec'd at the time of the engine build. The reason for this is because the oil pump pikcup should be welded or brazed onto the oil pump housing (while it's appart for blueprinting) for marine use. Most all of the pan's we're talking about here have custom pickups and as such, you'd need to have the pan before everything is setup. If you have the mounting hardware for the motor, find a donor block and mock it up. Then you can measure how much clearance you have while time is ticking away on your build. Once you know your clearance/dimensions, I know Armandos and Stefs can do a one off for you if need be.
Good luck with it, but start paying attention to details from here on in, or you could end up buying stuff 2x, compromising, or waiting even longer to get to the end of the road.
Chris

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Good luck with it, but start paying attention to details from here on in, or you could end up buying stuff 2x, compromising, or waiting even longer to get to the end of the road.
Chris
Man, isn't THAT the truth. I've been fortunate. I've seen others who were not so fortunate. :yuk:

[jrork]

Your KILLEN me with the old wreck comments. DON'T listen to him, that is one
very very beautiful boat (and it does more than the 50 mph he claims!).
You drinking again Droppy? I thought you swore off that stuff...

[1968Droptop]

You drinking again Droppy? I thought you swore off that stuff...
Me drink.....never LOL ! Only swearing going on here is when I read about your "wreck".
Thanks guys for sharing your info. I'll be taking some measurements BEFORE I order anything.

[wet77]

Have a 10q Milodon pan in my 21' daytona and it works great!
I only put in 9 quarts though after checking how the oil sits in the pan.

[JETBOY03]

i have a bare block you can use for mock up.

[1968Droptop]

i have a bare block you can use for mock up.
Thanks Austin ! But between BLT and I, we have one or two we can use.

[JETBOY03]

i thought you guys did just making sure.