Pretty techy stuff, but

[Blown 472]

I am sure smokin has done this all in his back yard and can dispute everything here.
http://worldtradecentertruth.com/volume/200609/DrJonesTalksatISUPhysicsDepartment

[SmokinLowriderSS]

We were just discussing this METAL CATALYZED FUSION and SOLAR ENERGY professor's lack of credibility and LACK OF KNOWLEDGABLE EXPERTISE IN STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND DEMOLITIONS in yoiur other thread blown, check there.
Done shot down while still on the ground. We call that "ARKANSAW'D" arround here.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Here's the demolitions expert blown, HE has respectable creds in the relevant field, unlike Jonesey.
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Here's Jones' other paper, enjoy. Perhaps it's less technical nature will suit you more.
I'm not of the opinion he is qualified to be considered a peer on THIS subject either. Seems he has a habit of straying away from his specialty.
Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America
http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/jones/rel491/handstext%20and%20figures.htm
Oh, by the way, Jones' 911 paper WAS "peer reviewed", if you can call it such. :crossx: It has only been reviewed, not in a journal on physics, or structural engineering, but in a Marxist journal of political economy. BYU itself has rejected his work.
A Marxist Journal of Political Economy. :idea: Definitely experts on structural colapse, engineering, AND explosive demlition. :rolleyes:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Of course, Jones adds another figure to lend credibility to his paper you referenced above. Did you look up who HE is? No? I didn't think so.
Professor David Ray Griffin is often used as an authority on certain subjects. The so called "Squibs", "Conservation of Momentum and energy" and the speed of the collapse.
But what is he a professor of?
He sounds like a professor of physics or civil engineering specializing in controlled demolition.
Nope, not by a LONG SHOT blown.
But as his fellow professors at BYU (engineers of all the horrid things) note, the experts are not really experts on the subjects at hand.
Dr Griffin is a professor emeritus of philosophy of religion and theology, at the Claremont School of Theology in Claremont, California.
Philosophy, Religion, Theology???????
Yep, those are certainly solid credentials to speak with authority in engineering matters, if it can be assumed that GOD WANTED THE BUILDINGS TO FALL.
Where's your CREDIBLE science blown. I'm waiting........................
My dog has as much credibility as those 2 on this particular subject.

[Old Texan]

Blown, in case you missed this question in the other thread, it's still on the table for you and your buddy Freak:
Why would our government blow up these buildings?
Weeeelllllllllllllllllllll?????????????????

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Since we have already covered Jones and Griffin, 2 of the foremost "experts" at "Scholars for Truth" Let's see just who else is there, shall we?
A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including:
Robert M. Bowman: former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the California Institute of Technology.
Not Demolitions or Structural or Civil Engineering? He's out of his element too.
James H. Fetzer: American philosopher and Distinguished McKnight University Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth.[1] He is also known for his advocacy of conspiracy theories
Conspiracy theories, such as?
Fetzer maintains that John F. Kennedy was assassinated as the result of a planned and precisely executed conspiracy, which included altering the autopsy X-rays, substituting another brain, and recreating the Zapruder film using sophisticated techniques of optical printing and special effects.
Fetzer has co-authored a book in which the authors argue that Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone's death in a airplane crash was not accidental but resulted from a small-scale conspiracy to ensure Republican control of the Senate
Fetzer claimed that cell phone calls from Flight 93 passengers appear to have been faked
Kevin James Barrett:
Ph.D. in African languages and literature with a minor in folklore
Barrett currently holds a one-semester appointment as an associate lecturer at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.[2] He is scheduled to teach an introductory class on Islam, in which he plans to spend one week or two weeks of the 16-week class teaching about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack and the War on Terrorism.
Wayne Madsen:
Washington, D.C.-based investigative journalist, author, and syndicated columnist.
Madsen was formerly a Senior Fellow of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. He has some twenty years experience in computer security and data privacy. He was a communications security analyst with the National Security Agency in the 1980s, and an intelligence officer in the US Navy He said in a Hannity and Colmes interview, "I've written, making comparisons between Bush and Hitler".
John McMurtry:
Professor, moral philosopher and ethicist who works at the University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada.
Morgan Reynolds:
Professor Emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis.
A number of researchers questioning the official account of 9/11 have expressed concern over Reynold's theory that commercial jets were not involved in the WTC attacks.
What? Conspiracy theorists don't believe his conspiracy theory???
Andreas von Buelow:
A German writer with a doctorate degree in Jurisprudence.
Where are the demolitions experts blown??
Where are the ENGINEERS blown??????
Do you have ANY??????????
What you have in the Scholars For Truth is a bunch of people talking WAY outside their expertise level.

[Old Texan]

Smokin'........ Stop!!!!!! I can sense he's (Blown we see you....) lurking and his nostrils are flaring, his eyes are beginning to water uncontrollably, tongue is a like dried out piece of bacon and starting to swell, armpits are dripping wet, the kids have run from the house, electrical panel is shorting out and crackling, wife has gathered her purse and heading off to Mother's, neighbor's are rush packing the RV, his MaMa's been called by the police, all the by now usual signs are there for the biggggggg BLOWN tirade to explode: "F-you Smokin', you piece of %#@^ *%@!# herd followin', GW luvin', smart %$^@#&%#$$#% Jew lover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Dammit, he's been had again.......... :cool:
Now Blown calm down and answer my 1 li' question: Why would our government blow up these buildings? :p

[Blown 472]

Smokin'........ Stop!!!!!! I can sense he's (Blown we see you....) lurking and his nostrils are flaring, his eyes are beginning to water uncontrollably, tongue is a like dried out piece of bacon and starting to swell, armpits are dripping wet, the kids have run from the house, electrical panel is shorting out and crackling, wife has gathered her purse and heading off to Mother's, neighbor's are rush packing the RV, his MaMa's been called by the police, all the by now usual signs are there for the biggggggg BLOWN tirade to explode: "F-you Smokin', you piece of %#@^ *%@!# herd followin', GW luvin', smart %$^@#&%#$$#% Jew lover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Dammit, he's been had again.......... :cool:
Now Blown calm down and answer my 1 li' question: Why would our government blow up these buildings? :p
Huh?
Did ya watch the movie? why did the neocons say "This is our pearl harbor"??

[Old Texan]

Huh?
Did ya watch the movie? why did the neocons say "This is our pearl harbor"??
Huh your sweet lil' asse. You know how you blow up in utter frustration when that mean ol' Smokin' spits the bait back in your boat.....
I require an answer that is based somewhat on intelligible cognizance Blown, not one of you yabadayabada Did ya watch the movie? why did the neocons say "This is our pearl harbor"??[/ deals. W H Y would the government do this? Or are you now insinuating Pearl Harbor was a Hoax?
You need to step up with an answer not more cheap double talk. C'mon, just let down the covers and peek out....Well?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Of course Pearl Harbor was staged. I went to the Arizona Memorial. In reality, it's actually the boat from Gilligan's Island. I was soooo disilusioned. :rolleyes:
I think they faked the moon landing too.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Ok blown, I'll entertain your nut fantasy for about 30 secconds, and ask 1 simple question.
Since the US Govt, murdered 2700+ people, including hundreds of emergency responders, blasted minimum 3 buildings down, and sucessfully blamed a foreign entity, ....... stay with me here .................
WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
A few dozen/hundred more deaths/dissapearances are no problem after 9-11-01's massively pulled off "job". "Colateral damage", part of any good cover-up.

[Old Texan]

Ok blown, I'll entertain your nut fantasy for about 30 secconds, and ask 1 simple question.
Since the US Govt, murdered 2700+ people, including hundreds of emergency responders, blasted minimum 3 buildings down, and sucessfully blamed a foreign entity, ....... stay with me here .................
WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
A few dozen/hundred more deaths/dissapearances are no problem after 9-11-01's massively pulled off "job". "Colateral damage", part of any good cover-up.
I know, I know!!! They all ran up the stairs and were Blown up with the building. Perfect crime commited, crooks kill themselves and leave no witnesses. :rolleyes: :crossx:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

intelligible cognizance
psssst, Tex, you're likely to have to explain this one to blown ......... them thar $5 words there.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Okies blown, 2 SIMPLE questions for you........................ please try NOT to answer in the form of a question son, this isn't Jeopardy and I'm not Alex Trebek.
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
You have nothing better to do tonight, It's Friday night, and I'm having FUN!

[deltaAce]

Yea, & wouldn't the Lawyer's be all over this, using Jone's expert testimony to win billion's in wrongful death &personal injury liability cases.
T.V. commercial,
If you were, or know of a victim of the Governments criminal demolition of the WTC buildings, contact us at the Law Offices of Smeekle & Johombee. We'll get you the money you deserve!

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Yea, & wouldn't the Lawyer's be all over this, using Jone's expert testimony to win billion's in wrongful death &personal injury liability cases.
T.V. commercial,
If you were, or know of a victim of the Governments criminal demolition of the WTC buildings, contact us at the Law Offices of Smeekle & Johombee. We'll get you the money you deserve!
DAMN! You HAD to bring the freakin' ambulance chasers into it now, didn't ya. :yuk: :yuk:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

I just located the minuites of the meeting that set up the whole govt 9/11/01 building-bombing-war-preemption. Wow! It'd be crazy if it weren't soooo true.
Government: We want to cause a tragedy so great the American people will blindly follow us into war... What do you think gentlemen...
Accomplice #1: Well, the Towers are a perfect choice.. It's been bombed before. We can just blame Osama again. We've been priming the American people by having him blow up our warships and our buildings in other countries.
Government: Yeah, good idea! How will we do that?
Accomplice #1: We can hire Osama to get some of his friends to fly planes into it!
Accomplice #2: Wait... I have a better idea, We can BOMB the buildings!
Accomplice #1: Well, that means placing enough bombs into two 110 story buildings. That's going to take a lot of man power and risk us being uncovered...
Accomplice #2: Yeah, but that way, you’re sure to knock them down. Besides, maybe the hijackers won’t make it to the target. Maybe they'll be uncovered!
Accomplice #1: But you don't need to knock them down, all you need is the horrific sight of the planes hitting the buildings. People will get the message. It's an attack on American soil. We'll also have people like the blind sheik to cover for us. We'll even put a guy on a train with evidence.
Your plan isn't perfect either, you know. Do I have to remind you of Operation Towel Pop? We already tried to embarrass Clinton by knocking it down and failed.
Accomplice #2: Yeah, our Bay of Pigs, but I say the only way they can get the message is if we knock them down.
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Government: Gentlemen, gentlemen... Please... What the hell, we'll just do both! :blink: How do we do that? I mean, how do you keep explosions from showing up on TV? We're going to have to investigate this at some point. How do we cover up the scene?
Accomplice #2: But why not just knock it dow...
Government: I've made my decision. Continue...
Accomplice #2: OK.. We install charges on every floor so that after the planes hit, we blow each floor under the crash floor one by one, very fast to simulate pancaking. We'll let the building burn a while just for effect. This will also give time for the trusses to sag making it LOOK like a fire caused the building to fall.
Accomplice #1: Nice touch...
Accomplice #2: Why, thank you. :) ...We'll set a charge off in the middle of the building AFTER the top is on its way down so everyone thinks the puffs of debris coming from the windows are from the tremendous hypodermic needle like pressure blowing debris from the weakest point in the building.
Government: What about the sound of explosions? Isn't that a dead giveaway?
Accomplice #2: No problem, We'll just let them think it's normal electrical explosions like transformers blowing up or the initial concrete and steel and floors hitting the floors below.
Accomplice #1: Yeah, it could also be the steel columns snapping like twigs from the tremendous weight of the floors above... Don't worry, we have disinformation specialists in key internet forums.
Government: WOW, You guys think of everything.. What about Building 7? Can we take that out at the same time?
Accomplice #1: We won’t be able to fly planes into it, that's for sure...
Accomplice #2: Leave it to me. If we set off the explosions just right, we can have one of the towers hit Building 7, missing the two next to it. After that, we can set fires on the bottom floors and let it burn for a while, you know, to make it look possible for a normal collapse. I'll call my agent in the fire department to get everyone out before we blow it. I'll figure a way to make the floors look buckled for effect as well.
Government: Amazing ... I also want to take out the Pentagon. Any suggestions?
Accomplice #1: What we'll do is hijack a plane just for effect, then fire a missile at the Pentagon. A bunker buster.
Government: But what about the people on the plane?
Accomplice #1: We'll land the plane in area 51, then shoot them all.
Government: Why not use the plane instead of the missile? That way, you take care of all the evidence at the same time... People on the highway can also see the planes hit. If you use a missile, there's going to be a lot of witnesses who saw a missile and not a plane.
Accomplice #1: Err... ah, don't worry about these small details. I have an undercover op in the DC police department who will take the names down and shot them all.
Government: How are you going to get all the people involved in this? Bush isn't exactly loved you know..
Accomplice #1: Don't worry, psych-ops will take care of the brainwashing of the American people. As for the media, we control the left and the right!
Government: GREAT! Nice work all! Let’s make the target date Sept 11, 2001.
WOW, Crazy (if it weren't so idiotically lame and stupid an idea).
Questions blown.....................
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Oh, blown, here's the list of the people who have to be involved in the coverup of the biggest mass-murder in history, every gutless one of them silent on what they KNOW to be true about MASS MURDER, some cases, their bretheren (like the firemen).
http://www.debunking911.com/massivect.htm

[deltaAce]

http://usera.imagecave.com/lakelover/lol.gifLMAO, great round table discussion of plot.http://usera.imagecave.com/lakelover/rofl1.gif
He probably believes you now (the evidence) but he dosn't want to "cry uncle" & let you win!http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/1132smashfreak.gifhttp://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/1132bowdown.gif

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Naw. He's likely curled up in the fetal position in front of Farenheight-911 whining "mommy!".
Later today, time to go shopping for a new monitor after hitting the last one in the screen with a 4-lb hand-sledge.

[Blown 472]

Wow, you really need a hobby.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

You need to start answering questions and stand up for yourself.

[Old Texan]

Wow, you really need a hobby.
Why don't you try answering those 2 questions for a hobby? Your hobby of posting "Knucklheaded Data" is getting kind of boring.
Dare ya Blown, I dare ya to answer them. Where's your buddy Freak? He sure cut and ran. Answer 'em Blown.
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Why don't you try answering those 2 questions for a hobby? Your hobby of posting "Knucklheaded Data" is getting kind of boring.
Dare ya Blown, I dare ya to answer them. Where's your buddy Freak? He sure cut and ran. Answer 'em Blown.
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
Blown......................
blooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn........... .....
Here blownblownblownblownblownblownblownblownie
Come on boy,
Here blown,
You can answer these and make us here ohhhhhh sooooo much smarter.

[Blown 472]

Do you clowns really believe all the crap these dipshits feed you? if so I am so sorry.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Do you clowns really believe all the crap these dipshits feed you? if so I am so sorry.
Failure to answer the questions son. Here, I'll repeat them for ya ... and I'll type s l o w l y t h i s t i m e.
Dare ya Blown, I dare ya to answer them. Where's your buddy Freak? He sure cut and ran. Answer 'em Blown.
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
Add to here ........:
Why do you hate jews so much?

[Old Texan]

Do you clowns really believe all the crap these dipshits feed you? if so I am so sorry.
Irrelevant what us clowns believe Blown aside from the fact you won't (can't) answer 3 questions. Your cedibility is reching an all time low and yet you have no answers. I sure hope your "free thinking" gives some sort of foundation for your statements, but it appears you are what we think you are, shallow and a follower of your inner hate.
You bring these things up and then have no basis for your rants. Answer please:
#1)- Why would our government blow up these buildings?
#2)- WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FIGURED IT OUT, STILL ALIVE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE?????
#3) Why do you hate the Jews?