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EmpirE231
09-29-2006, 10:31 AM
where to buy online? what to look for? dont know anything about thses things... looking for a full setup... dual cd mixer.. speakers amp.. etc... was looking at www.123dj.com their full packages... any input would be appreciated!! thanks :)

EmpirE231
09-29-2006, 10:32 AM
Ohh thsi will be used just for fun.. backyard party type of stuff... my dad has always wanted a setup... soo might just be his lucky day!

BoatFloating
09-29-2006, 10:46 AM
That's a good place to start also try Hollywood DJ.com Try and avoid the Gemini stuff stay with Numark and Dennon stuff..... Even for fun you want it to last....

bunny 166
09-29-2006, 10:50 AM
You could PM Doctor Feniks and see what he uses, just a thought....Phat Matt knows how to find him...Hey, you could ask Matt,too... :boxed:

godfather
09-29-2006, 10:53 AM
i purchased from this company http://pssl.com/ i told them what i wanted and this is what i got. it was a good deal also. here is what i got for this price 2,169.67
Product Number Qty Description
DN-D4500 01 1 DENON DND4500 DUAL CD/MP3 PLAYER
DM-1200 01 1 NUMARK DM1200 19 IN DJ MIXER W/DUAL 6 BAND EQ
JRX115 01 2 JBL JRX115 PORTABLE 15 INCH 2-WAY SPEAKER
MRC-6 01 1 GEMINI MRC6 6 SPACE SLANT RACK - BLACK
S100-S-25SP 01 2 MONSTER S100 SPEAKER CABLE: SPEAKON X SPEAKON 25FT
MDJ-X-1M 01 2 MONSTER PROLINK CABLE PAIR: XLR(F) x XLR(M) 3.3FT
XTI-2000 01 1 CROWN XTI-2000 POWER AMP 475W @ 8 OHMS
http://pssl.com/

Phat Matt
09-29-2006, 11:08 AM
I would go with www.pssl.com also. I have bought a bunch of stuff from them. If you have a guitar center near you you can go in and check out the stuff before you buy it.

C-2
09-29-2006, 11:52 AM
We used to go to ProSound too when they were in GG, and even Audio Climax in Rosemead back in the day - looks like they've gone bigtime.
While having a setup/lights is very entertaining - it's also kind of a pain in the ass. Every friend, family member, and neighbor will hit you up to DJ, or to borrow your equipment (yeah, right). Lugging that crap around gets old.
You've been warned :crossx: :crossx: :crossx:

EmpirE231
09-29-2006, 12:36 PM
What do you guys think about this package?? does it still need anything else? like headset or....? http://123dj.com/specials/bonuspack3.html

Havasu_Dreamin
09-29-2006, 12:45 PM
We used to go to ProSound too when they were in GG, and even Audio Climax in Rosemead back in the day - looks like they've gone bigtime.
Spent plenty of time, and money, in both of those places.....

BlownHowardCat
09-29-2006, 01:08 PM
What do you guys think about this package?? does it still need anything else? like headset or....? http://123dj.com/specials/bonuspack3.html
The CD player & the mixer look OK.......But.......Those speakers are listed at 8 ohms and that amp puts out 240 watts at 8 ohms......If you could get them to upgrade the amp for something with at least double that power you will be better off..........You know audio stuff is an addiction don't ya.

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2006, 01:17 PM
As I look into my crystal ball I can see something red flashing .. wait they've stopped flashing,,, now it's a constant red glow .... Is that a stop sign ? nooo it's red clip lights and what ?,,, wait , theres something else comming through .. yep yep I can smell it , it smells like,,, yes I know that smell ............... :p
C.T. :wink:

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2006, 01:35 PM
Sorry about that. :D
Dude if you want a good system and you're on a budget start hitting the local music shops and pick up some used pro grade gear. People are always trading in and upgrading. Not to mention if it's a music shop that leases sound gear they also upgrade their stuff and usually have a lot of good quality used gear on the shelf or in the back. I can't count the killer deals I have gotten on QSC , Peavey, JBL, Cerwin Vega ect. I know it's convieniant to have an all in one system shipped to your door for what seems like a killer deal. But at what cost in the long run when that Jap crap takes a smoke break in the middle of your kickin party? I guess that system would be ok for the casual weekend warrior if you didn't stress it out and stayed off the clip lights.
Good Luck with your search.
C.T. :wink:

BoatFloating
09-29-2006, 01:39 PM
The CD player & the mixer look OK.......But.......Those speakers are listed at 8 ohms and that amp puts out 240 watts at 8 ohms......If you could get them to upgrade the amp for something with at least double that power you will be better off..........You know audio stuff is an addiction don't ya.
The only thing ok about that package is the CD player and that's just ok. All that equipment isn't going to last that long. But for playing around I guess it will work...

MAINEVENT
09-29-2006, 01:56 PM
The only thing ok about that package is the CD player and that's just ok. All that equipment isn't going to last that long. But for playing around I guess it will work...
What are you some kind of DJ or something... LOL I was just gfonna call you on this subject here... I will light you up later..

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2006, 01:57 PM
Here's a few examples.
I have 4 of these 2 of them I gave 200 bucks forfrom a local pawn shop and the other set I gave 400 for but they had beed upgraded to newer drivers.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/112739_1.JPG
Next, A couple of recent amp purchases. the first a Peavey CS-800. 400 watts rms per ch. built in compressor / limiter. 200 bucks from the local music shop
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127cs800.jpg
And a Peavey PV 8.5C 550 watts rms per ch. with Compressor / Limiter built in also. for 300 bucks at the same music shop
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127pv85cbig.gif
There's one of these on flea bay now. 200 bucks and 4 days left.
C.T. :wink:

EmpirE231
09-29-2006, 02:01 PM
Uhhh you guys are probably gonna rip on me... but I ended up going with this package http://www.123dj.com/specials/bonuspack2.html and added some stands and headphones ... they're just a gift for my dad... who has 0 dj experience .. .just wanted something he could have fun with and entertain some friends in a lil backyard get together... if I was looking for something for myself .. I would do a bunch of research and drop more coin ..this package with everything (stands , phones ) and $140 shipping :220v: ..total damage was $800 ...I think he should be able to have some fun with it... just remember... no crazy raves... just some backyard fun :) + I can borrow the stuff when I have my own lil party and see if it actually blows up :crossx:

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2006, 02:05 PM
I wont rag on ya man, It's all about having fun. Enjoy your new system and stay off the damn clip lights :p
Rock On
C.T. :wink:

EmpirE231
09-29-2006, 02:10 PM
what are clip lights :)

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2006, 02:14 PM
what are clip lights :)
:D It's those little red blinky lights that usually light up when it gets really really loud ya silly goose.
C.T. :wink:

Charley
09-30-2006, 12:42 AM
We used to go to ProSound too when they were in GG, and even Audio Climax in Rosemead back in the day - looks like they've gone bigtime.
While having a setup/lights is very entertaining - it's also kind of a pain in the ass. Every friend, family member, and neighbor will hit you up to DJ, or to borrow your equipment (yeah, right). Lugging that crap around gets old.
You've been warned :crossx: :crossx: :crossx:
Classic, I started my career there in the Huntington Beach store and moved them to GG....too funny/small world

socaldj1
09-30-2006, 05:52 PM
Seems there are a few DJs and few who just like to play. I still have some gear but quit doing all the weddings and other gigs. I constantly have people asking for me to do jobs. I'd like to have some numbers to give out. So who do I send them to? Also I still do a friday and saturday night Rock N Bowl every week (My river money), I'm looking for some one who can back me up on the weekends I'm gone. It doesn't pay well, but it's consistant. It's just 3 hours a night and I have all the equipment built in and all the music and videos onsite. Great oppertunity for some one who wants to learn. Email me or PM with any contact info. Socaldj1@aol.com Sean

BlownHowardCat
09-30-2006, 06:35 PM
OK OK....So if any of you DJ's need Rack's & Stack's here's a shamless plug for me...
3 way boxes 2x12 1x10 2 inch exit horn...6 of em
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/sept152006002.jpg
2 way boxes 2x15 & 2 inch exit horn.....6 of them also.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/Picture023.jpg
subs....2x18 JBL SR4719A....Yep......6 of em
And the racks......Yep.....We like QSC & DBX
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/may15th017.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/Picture045.jpg

HMF'er
09-30-2006, 07:30 PM
Check with your local PAWN SHOP.

BoatFloating
10-01-2006, 09:34 AM
OK OK....So if any of you DJ's need Rack's & Stack's here's a shamless plug for me...
3 way boxes 2x12 1x10 2 inch exit horn...6 of em
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/sept152006002.jpg
2 way boxes 2x15 & 2 inch exit horn.....6 of them also.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/Picture023.jpg
subs....2x18 JBL SR4719A....Yep......6 of em
And the racks......Yep.....We like QSC & DBX
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/may15th017.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/Picture045.jpg
I love QSC. I've used them for years and no problems. Love them....

socalmofo
10-01-2006, 03:01 PM
How hard is it to learn how to use these for someone with no experience?
Mixing songs together........ Is it self explanatory?

BoatFloating
10-02-2006, 06:24 AM
How hard is it to learn how to use these for someone with no experience?
Mixing songs together........ Is it self explanatory?
It does take a little work. It's about BPM's (Beat Per Minutes) that's how you mix the songs together....

C-2
10-02-2006, 07:02 AM
It's funny cuz I don't mind helping friends out - but it's too hard to keep up on the music. If you do a wedding, people want the latest and greatest. You can tell them you're just helping your friend/family out until you're blue in the face - but their conclusion will always be THE DJ SUCKED!
A great DJ shows up not only with the newest MP3/CD rig - but with 1200's too. And at this point, if somebody is swinging 1200's - then they probably know how to use them.
Next to being in a band, being a party DJ was a shoe-in for the ladies. :220v:
"I'M WITH THE DJ" lol

BoatFloating
10-02-2006, 07:14 AM
It's funny cuz I don't mind helping friends out - but it's too hard to keep up on the music. If you do a wedding, people want the latest and greatest. You can tell them you're just helping your friend/family out until you're blue in the face - but their conclusion will always be THE DJ SUCKED!
A great DJ shows up not only with the newest MP3/CD rig - but with 1200's too. And at this point, if somebody is swinging 1200's - then they probably know how to use them.
Next to being in a band, being a party DJ was a shoe-in for the ladies. :220v:
"I'M WITH THE DJ" lol
I sold my 1200's a few years ago for more than I bought them for. With all the download music sites it's easy to stay on top of the new music. There is no reason to have vinyl at weddings and corporate parties anymore. Hell most of the new CD players act like vinyl now these days. Records were cool but man what a load they were...

C-2
10-02-2006, 07:29 AM
Yeah, but it's all about throwing down a great mix on vinyl. DJ as opposed to MC. Maybe it's becoming a lost artform. Long ago, I too sold the 1200's thinking CD's were the future....
What about the MP3's - can you beat mix with those? It might be fun to update the system.

BoatFloating
10-02-2006, 07:35 AM
You can beat mix with ipods now. I don't have the system but it's out there. I was shocked but you can do now on CD's that you could do on records even scratching. But spinning CD's will never look as cool as did vinyl.

Froggystyle
10-02-2006, 08:20 AM
A great DJ shows up not only with the newest MP3/CD rig - but with 1200's too. And at this point, if somebody is swinging 1200's - then they probably know how to use them.
Next to being in a band, being a party DJ was a shoe-in for the ladies. :220v:
"I'M WITH THE DJ" lol
Aww Jeeezzzz.....
1200's are for swapmeets. When I was looking for gear EVERY set of 1200's for sale used were because the owner had switched to Numark TTx's.
I went and bought new TTx's as a result. Now spinning on 1200's seems so quaint.
That being said, I spun my first paying gig on Saturday night on 1200's. Old ones. A little tough to get used to initially since they stop as soon as you put any pressure on them compared to the TTx's, and the platter on the left one was warped. But the real kicker is the no digital readout for percentage.
The ONLY reason to get Technics today is if you are scared you won't be able to spin comfortably in all of the old clubs running Technics gear. Three of the newer clubs I have been at are running TTx's now (finally) so look for a change in command here shortly.
1200's... cute. Put them next to the lava lamp in the "used to be cool" pile.

Froggystyle
10-02-2006, 08:21 AM
You can beat mix with ipods now. I don't have the system but it's out there. I was shocked but you can do now on CD's that you could do on records even scratching. But spinning CD's will never look as cool as did vinyl.
I am trying to spin 100% on Serato Scratch Live. Vinyl look and feel, MP3 portability and options. Plus, the music available on Mp3 is so far superior to the vinyl selection it is pitiful.

C-2
10-02-2006, 09:03 AM
1200's... cute. Put them next to the lava lamp in the "used to be cool" pile.
Well if you're gonna throw some away or know of anybody using them for paperweights, please let me know.
My point was if a guy can mix on 1200's - he's been around and there's a good chance he knows what he's doing.
To each his own - if a guy can tear-up 1200's - imagine what he can do on better equipment. :idea:

Charley
10-02-2006, 02:11 PM
Some of the DJ's I provide for make up to $15,000 a night ... when it comes to turntables, they still want 1200's sorry Froggy Numark still sux LOL
Then again some of them still want Urie rotary pot mixers too :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Cheap Thrills
10-02-2006, 02:55 PM
I don't know jack about scratching vinyl other than I get pissed off when it happens to my albums :rollside: I use a Sota Star to play the albums on when the urge hits.
For what it's worth I have a SL2000 sitting on the shelf in the garrage collecting dust.
Since I try to stay away from the jap crap I haven't a clue as to if it's comparable to the 1200 so don't bash me for not knowing. it has low mileage Stanton cartridge on it.
If anyone wants it make me an offer I could use the shelf space.
C.T. :wink:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127100_0193-med.jpg
Full Size Link (http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127100_0193.jpg)
Actually I think it looks nicer than the 1200
http://www.vintagetechnics.com/images/sl1200catalog.jpg
2000
http://www.vintagetechnics.com/images/sl2000catalog.jpg

EmpirE231
10-06-2006, 04:20 PM
OK ... change of plans... cancelled that order through 123 dj .... and now looking at this!! ebayyyyyyy (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COMPLETE-DJ-PACKAGE-RACK-AMP-MIXER-CD-12-Speakers_W0QQitemZ230033626202QQihZ013QQcategoryZ4 7094QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) .... what do you guys think...?? better? the only thing I cant see that it comes with is the cabinets? to put the amps and mixers etc in? thanks for all your help so far!!

Angry Inch
10-06-2006, 04:33 PM
1210's, Allan & Heath x-one mixer, and Event PS8's here
Whoever says that Technics 1200's are inferior is an idiot.
If you want to DJ digital music, go with Serato Scratch. Use it with your 1200's.
If you want to play music at weddings, get a cd player.

Nord
10-06-2006, 04:57 PM
well there you go.....

Angry Inch
10-06-2006, 05:04 PM
OK ... change of plans... cancelled that order through 123 dj .... and now looking at this!! ebayyyyyyy (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COMPLETE-DJ-PACKAGE-RACK-AMP-MIXER-CD-12-Speakers_W0QQitemZ230033626202QQihZ013QQcategoryZ4 7094QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) .... what do you guys think...?? better? the only thing I cant see that it comes with is the cabinets? to put the amps and mixers etc in? thanks for all your help so far!!
Looks like junk to me. What is your budget? What type of music do you want to play? You said you want to play backyard parties, right?
Cerwin Vega speakers are great for the price. Ours have lasted us 10 years and are still strong. Great entry point.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2005/Intense-Loudspeakers-lg.jpg
Vestax; Rane; and, Allen & Heath are the mixers I love to use. Vestax is an entry level quality mixer. The later two are more expensive; but, awesome. here's mine. To put things in perspective: It's roughly $800, more than that entire package on FleaBay.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM02/Content/Allen_Heath/PR/Xone-02-small.jpg
I know nothing about CD players. BoatFloating knows what he is talking about in that area. I would trust his judgement on that. I just would never buy an all-in-one unit (two cd players and a mixer). You might not like the mixer or the players; then you'll have to buy all new shit. Individual components are better in my opinion.
Crown CE amps are the shit for the price. QSC is dope as well. These are the CEs. They have lasted 10+years, like the Cerwin Vegas.
http://www.theatresupply.com/images/crown%20ce%20amps.jpg
Sennheiser headphones are better than Sony. Sony is the standard. Sony MDR-V700DJ is the one to get
http://www.yatack.no/edoc/product_img/218658-2.jpg
Ortophone and sure "needles" are the way to go, if you go with wax.
You might like these Mackies, they have an amp built in.
http://www.atomicmary.com/ProductImages/Mackie-C300zScreen.gif
Hope that helps....

Cheap Thrills
10-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Peavey (http://cgi.ebay.com/PEAVEY-SPEAKERS-FOR-PA-OR-BACK-YARD-PARTYING_W0QQitemZ110039746974QQihZ001QQcategoryZ4 7094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Dual CD with mixer (http://cgi.ebay.com/NUMARK-DUAL-CD-G-PLAYER-KMX01-KMX-01_W0QQitemZ220035182819QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29922QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
QSC (http://cgi.ebay.com/L-K-QSC-MX-1500_W0QQitemZ300035701258QQihZ020QQcategoryZ23787 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
More Peavey (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-15-Peavey-Speakers-560-XR-Powered-Mixer-w-Equailzer_W0QQitemZ150042415947QQihZ005QQcategoryZ 47094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
More Peavey (http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-SP5-G-speakers_W0QQitemZ180032985333QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4 7094QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Peavey 8.5c amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-PV-8-5C-550wattsx2-Stereo-Power-PA-Amp-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ170035301578QQihZ007QQcategoryZ 64452QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) I may bid on this one myself :rollside:
CS-800 (http://cgi.ebay.com/cs-800_W0QQitemZ140038514004QQihZ004QQcategoryZ64452Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) There are 3 of these just look for them. they are built like tanks and are damn near indestructable :p
Another Peavey 8.5c (http://cgi.ebay.com/PEAVEY-8-5c-POWER-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ110040792019QQihZ001QQcategoryZ 64452QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Forgot one
Crown CE-1000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CROWN-CE1000-DJ-PRO-POWER-AMP-AMPLIFIER-CE-1000_W0QQitemZ270034191665QQihZ017QQcategoryZ64451 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
By the time you get that system shipped you could piece together a better system with good gear. Peavey, QSC, Crown, ect.
I know it's convenient to have an all in one deal but with a little patience I believe you will be happier piecing together a system out of some good ole rock solid made in the USA professional gear that will survive the test of time. Hell I'd sell you some of my gear just to keep you from buying anything made by Pyle.
Stay away from the jap crap. I know you probably wont have a choice where the dual CD player comes in but......you gotta do what you gotta do.
I hope that didn't sound harsh , sorry if it did. Good luck
C.T. :wink:

Cheap Thrills
10-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Looks like junk to me. What is your budget? What type of music do you want to play? You said you want to play backyard parties, right?
Cerwin Vega speakers are great for the price. Ours have lasted us 10 years and are still strong. Great entry point.
I agree here Vega makes some great gear
Crown CE amps are the shit for the price. QSC is dope as well.
I agree here also the CE line is a great entry level Crown and with the 400+ damping factor @ 8ohm they will move some huge current while maintaining excellent cone control
Sennheiser headphones are better than Sony. Sony is the standard. Sony MDR-V700DJ is the one to get
I always thought my Telex ANR 1D headset was the shit but they're a different animal all together :D
C.T. :wink:

cxr133
10-06-2006, 09:06 PM
bump to the top!!
the wifie just aksed what i wanted for my birthday.. and i think one if these setups for the backyard would be nice.
can you really save alot of money at pawn shops?
what should i be looking for ?
what about the guitar center do they have a good clearance section?
do they sell old rental stuff??
thanks

Phat Matt
10-06-2006, 09:16 PM
I prefer to just use the clubs system. :)

cxr133
10-07-2006, 08:18 AM
one more bump trying to get the wifie in the right direction..... (Uh oh this thread will go off topic now) :cool:

C-2
10-07-2006, 08:43 AM
Follow Craigslist......tons of stereo crap and you can search/buy locally. Ebay has great deals on old equipment.....a mixer I bought in the day for $800 is $80 bucks there. Pawn shops are over priced IMO. You don't need anything aboye 300-400 watts for a backyard system, even less will get the cops rolling. :)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/1132bump.gif

EmpirE231
10-07-2006, 08:53 AM
Hmmmmmmm ok well I should try piecing one together... but I dont evem know what to get really? to just have a setup and play deal! can I get a decent setup from guitar center for under $800?? ....this is just for my dad to have fun with... but wouldn't mind it being a lil reliable for when I "borrow" it for a party or ten!! :crossx:
ok so I need
-speakers
-amp
-mixer
-dual cd dealio
???? stands cables ? etc?

Cheap Thrills
10-07-2006, 09:46 AM
bump to the top!!
the wifie just aksed what i wanted for my birthday.. and i think one if these setups for the backyard would be nice.
can you really save alot of money at pawn shops?
what should i be looking for ?
what about the guitar center do they have a good clearance section?
do they sell old rental stuff??
thanks
I have gotten alot of good deals from the local Pawn Shops. If you're buying used speakers be sure to throw some signal to them before buying them and listen to them to make sure they function properly. Also make sure they have the correct drivers in them. I've seen countless JBL and Peavey cabs with Radio Shack speakers in them, that's something you don't want.
Same goes with amplifiers, mixers anything electronic. get a demo before buying.
From my experiences music shops tend to be a little more reliable . Most usually have some good used gear( trade ins demo units ect.) If you don't see them in the showroom just ask. You will be suprised at what you might find collecting dust in the back.
Any brand name amp with 200w Rms. per ch. @8 Ohm(with the right speakers) should be more than enough for a small back yard system.
Hmmmmmmm ok well I should try piecing one together... but I dont evem know what to get really? to just have a setup and play deal! can I get a decent setup from guitar center for under $800?? ....this is just for my dad to have fun with... but wouldn't mind it being a lil reliable for when I "borrow" it for a party or ten!! :crossx:
ok so I need
-speakers
-amp
-mixer
-dual cd dealio
???? stands cables ? etc?
I wouldn't worry about stands right away. I would concentrate my efforts towards the speakers , Amplifier(s) and the dual CD dealo. check that link I posted earlier with the dual CD/Mixer. you may want to look at an equalizer too since most amps dont have tone control
I didnt look at the CD/mixer deal to see if it had an EQ.
edit: Just checked and it does have an EQ so there ya go .
The cables are cheap compaired to the rest. you can even make them up yourself with little effort and a soldering iron. Since you're on a budget , those orange drop cords make for great speaker cables for short runs :D and with a handfull of 1/4 phono jacks and a long guitar cable you can make the input cables too :rollside:
I'm sure you can make it happen with $800 and have beer money for the party.
C.T. :wink:

cxr133
10-07-2006, 09:57 AM
Hmmmmmmm ok well I should try piecing one together... but I dont evem know what to get really? to just have a setup and play deal! can I get a decent setup from guitar center for under $800?? ....this is just for my dad to have fun with... but wouldn't mind it being a lil reliable for when I "borrow" it for a party or ten!! :crossx:
ok so I need
-speakers
-amp
-mixer
-dual cd dealio
???? stands cables ? etc?
good question.. cmon guys help us out itll probably be worth a bottle of goose. remember we are not trying to do clubs.. just break out w/ it whenever a few friends are over.
what about this guys setup?
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ele/214625276.html
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Cheap Thrills
10-07-2006, 10:05 AM
Hello Hello Hello , is this fickin mic. on ? tap tap tap.... :p whew ! smells like stale beer and a double double . can I have a clean wind screen puuulease ?
I'm trying here gentlemen. I looked at the craigs list post but I cant ID the amp or the speakers. the amp looks like an old BSR and the speakers look like Pyle. I didn't see a price either. :idea: send him a email and find out the details.
C.T. :wink:

C-2
10-07-2006, 11:19 AM
I would use a lot of common sense when finding a system –
Get the most compact system you can – otherwise, it will end up in the garage or storage and if it’s too big – then you’ll lose interest simply cuz it’s a pain to move around.
Speakers too – they have really come far with loudspeaker technology. You don’t need giant speakers; in fact I would suggest staying away from them, again because they suck to move around and they will get in way of your everyday life.
If you can find a system with a compact coffin – try to go with that. You don’t want to piece together separate components each time you go to play, thus the coffin. If you have cats – stay away from carpeted coffins and speakers – otherwise they will become scratching posts.
While 1200’s are cool – the coffin will be large and take 2 people to move around. Besides, unless you plan on spending major coin on 12” vinyl, they are kind of pointless for recreational use.
I would stick with a lower end all-in-one type unit with an integrated dual CD/mixer/MP3, and be sure whatever you get, can be used with MP3. I’ve found pretty much every rare 12” single I ever had on Limewire. Mixers and CD players seem to be dime a dozen, so they are easily replaceable.
If there is any piece to not skimp on, it’s the amp. Same as a blower on a motor – it’s easier to run bigger power moderately, than to run small power wide open. A bigger amp will always sound better, even if you don’t push it to its max potential. They are PA amps, not surround sound, all you are looking for is something loud and deep, and that runs cool (your quality amps will have fans).
As with any stereo equip – you need to hear it before you buy it. Best buy has a new music shop, Sam Ash – you can always see the equipment, try it out, listen to it and then find it used someplace else.
If you enjoy the stuff, REALLY enjoy it, then you can always upgrade.

Froggystyle
10-07-2006, 11:20 AM
Whoever says that Technics 1200's are inferior is an idiot.
I have both now, the Technics are no comparison. None. Quizno's commercial. Side by side they get their asses kicked in every category. The only reason I bought 1200's is so I can get more used to spinning on the garbage before going and spinning clubs. I am used to premium now. Takes some detuning to get used to 87 octane.
And, I am not an idiot. I am also not sitting with my head in the sand following the next asshole.
Time marches on dude. Techs are no match for the latest and greatest.
That being said, I guess Technics just released the new ones MKG's or something. Amazingly, they are more like TTX's than Techs. Strange eh?
So when the new Techs come out, are they going to be garbage too because they dust 1200's?

cxr133
10-07-2006, 12:42 PM
i wish that cheap thrills guy would reply .... he kinda sounded like he knew what he was talking about :p
i just left guitar centar and that stanton cd/mixer was like 459.00
i think what we are both asking eithr from that 123dj page or guitar center what is the best PACKAGE deal that we can buy.. i dont think we have the time or know how to piece together a system at this time in the game....
thanks
Chris

Cheap Thrills
10-07-2006, 01:14 PM
i wish that cheap thrills guy would reply .... he kinda sounded like he knew what he was talking about :p
:idea: :rolleyes: :D
C.T. :wink:

Froggystyle
10-07-2006, 03:37 PM
i wish that cheap thrills guy would reply .... he kinda sounded like he knew what he was talking about :p
i just left guitar centar and that stanton cd/mixer was like 459.00
i think what we are both asking eithr from that 123dj page or guitar center what is the best PACKAGE deal that we can buy.. i dont think we have the time or know how to piece together a system at this time in the game....
thanks
Chris
Package deals are rarely a good deal. They end up being low-grade parts to end up with an attractive price.
If you want to end up with stuff you won't EVER regret owning, find the following used..
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer. This is a couple steps below what I bought, but a club standard and very, very easy to learn and manipulate. As such, it has a somewhat regulated resale price because they are bombproof and industry standard. This will give you the opportunity to mix with vinyl now, and expand to a four channel when you get CDJ's or something in the future.
Either Numark TTX or Technics 1200 turntables. You won't find any TTX's used, because nobody in their right minds would sell them once they owned them, but they aren't super cost prohibitive retail, so you can get into them for around $350 per if you shop right and drop all your money in one store to get the right deal. Don't bother with anything else. You will have either of these decks for the rest of your life.
Get a good set of headphones. I have Pioneer 1000's, which are pretty much the balls. There is a set of Pioneers called the 600's, and they sound pretty good for the price. Unless a pro is sponsored by a different company and given the cans, everyone with any cred spins with 1000's.
For now, get yourself some good powered monitors instead of a PA. Way, way cheaper and they are a very important part of a full future rig. I have some Behringer "Truth 80's" that are 8" woofers and self powered. Put them on some rear theater stands from IKEA and call it a day. They are loud enough on their own to get you shut down in apartment and they can jam a small party. Additionally, they are under $500 for the pair. Once you have a full on PA system, you will already have booth monitors which you will definitely need.
Those will get you started and playing with the gear you will own in years. Anything less will be upgraded and you will take a big loss. If you have the scratch, step up to a Pioneer DJM-800 Mixer. Spendy, but I have been mixing on one lately and it is the balls. My mixer is going to be for sale soon, because I am getting the Pioneer. I currently have a Tascam X-9. When it was built, it was one of the top rated mixers around. It is aging now, but still uber-clean and very, very feature filled. It just isn't as easy to use while playing live as the Pioneers. Plus, the Pioneer is just the club standard.
You will get better faster with the Numarks, you will be setting yourself up to play well on anything with the Technics. Kind of like running with a weight tied to your waist. As soon as you lose the weight, you will run great.
Lastly, you will need RCA cables for the monitors. They will take an RCA on one end with a 1/4" phono plug on the monitor end. The Pioneer mixer actually needs a 1/4" phono on both ends, so you can use a guitar hookup cable if you want to.
A couple of rules to live by, regardless of what gear you get...
1) Get a four channel mixer. You will need it later, if only for plugging in an Ipod between sets
2) Get a high quality set of tables. Cheap ones suck and make it harder to learn.
3) Get the best gear you can afford, and it is likely you won't be buying it again. The best gear, if bought used will sell for what you paid for it if you get out of it for whatever reason.
Like I said, don't worry about a PA for now. They are bulky, expensive and tough to store. Just get the basics and start jamming.
Future purchases... Here is what you are going to want to assemble as time goes on...
Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD turntables. They are the best, they work great and now that they have been recently updated, great used ones are coming on the market. Again, this is a club-standard piece of gear, and you can count on it being there if they have any means of mixing CD's. This will plug into your 3rd or 4th channel of your mixer you bought.
Rane/Serato Scratch Live. This requires a laptop or desktop computer, but it allows you to mix with MP3s and not even bother with vinyl. Vinyl is tough to get these days, and expensive. There are a ton of DJ music download sites (beatport.com for example) that allow you to download new kick ass music for about $1.50 each song. Compare that to $10 or so for most records. I have it now, and swear by it. ESPECIALLY for parties, where you just know you aren't going to find the chicken-dance on vinyl... ;)
That is it for now. I just did a search on e-bay and you should be able to get everything for well under $1500. $700 for TTX's, $500 for a DJM-600 and $120 for the great cans. That being said, I paid more than that for my mixer. The sky is the limit for spending on this stuff...

C-2
10-07-2006, 06:33 PM
I think his budget is $800 total and he wanted CD players.
The powered monitors sound like a great way to save money and make you very portable.
Maybe Froggy can take another look to get you a good estimate on a cd/mixer combo, or seperate pieces. Not buying an amp gives you some money to play with and probably still walk away with something decent.
I'm out of the loop - some of the new stuff looks like fun, especially those Denon scratch tables.

Froggystyle
10-07-2006, 09:39 PM
I think his budget is $800 total and he wanted CD players.
The powered monitors sound like a great way to save money and make you very portable.
Maybe Froggy can take another look to get you a good estimate on a cd/mixer combo, or seperate pieces. Not buying an amp gives you some money to play with and probably still walk away with something decent.
I'm out of the loop - some of the new stuff looks like fun, especially those Denon scratch tables.
You ain't getting there from here on $800. The thing about the cheaper gear is that NOBODY will buy it used, because everyone got suckered with it the first time and can't unload it.
A CDJ-1000 is about $750. It is the ONLY way to learn how to mix on a CD. I have the CDX-3000 Pioneer and hate them. They were only $1,000 for the pair (it comes as a rack-mounted set with a rack-mounted shuttle) but it was the only thing that fit in my gear rack. I don't spin on CD's though, but I wanted the capability and didn't want to spend another $500 or so and end up with a pair of big CD tables.
All of my buddies spin on CD's now. With closets full of vinyl. Most big name DJ's spin on CD's now too. It is just too easy to transport CD's, they are durable, light and you can burn the hottest shit right to them minutes before a gig. Serato is better in my opinion, but it is a pain in the ass to set up before a gig because you have to break into their system and put it in there. You also need to do it before any other DJ's go on or there will be a break in the music.
The monitors alone will be $500. Used probably $300. You can find the 3000 like I have for $500-$700 or so used, so that might be the way to go. Get a good used DJM-600 mixer and be right there at $1500-1600. If you only have $800, just get less gear, not lower quality gear. Start with the mixer and CDX-3000 and you might get in right around there. That will let you mix CD's, and you can sell it for whatever you paid for it and put it towards a CDJ if you get hooked.

Froggystyle
10-07-2006, 10:03 PM
You're in luck. This guy is selling a CMX-3000 (I got the name wrong before) for $550 or so "buy it now"
CMX-3000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-CMX-3000-Professional-Dual-CD-Player_W0QQitemZ110041412184QQihZ001QQcategoryZ299 22QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I normally wouldn't recommend the Tascam X-9 (The one I have) because of the same reasons I am going to sell mine. It is more difficult to use the effects on while playing live, and you aren't practicing on what you will be playing on. Lots of DJ's love my mixer, lots never get used to it when they come over for parties. All agree it is extremely high quality, but probably too high for mixing live. It is just very particular and very, very adjustable.
I mention this because it looks like one is about to fire sale on E-bay for no good reason. It is a $1200+ mixer, and very well regarded. There are no Pioneers for sale under $600 or so, but that Tascam is still in the $150 range with only 18 hours to go. If I were you, I would snipe that sucker with a $400 max bid with a minute to go and end up with the mother of all good deals on a phenomenal mixer. I wouldn't trade mine for a Pioneer 600, but I would for an 800, and they are over $1400 right now... none used because it is so new. The next step up from there for Pioneer is the 1000 which is nearly $3500 with all of the bells and whistles.
Here is the auction...
Tascam X-9 Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/TASCAM-X9-DJ-Mixer-X-9-superior-to-Pioneer-DJM-600_W0QQitemZ280034858278QQihZ018QQcategoryZ101981 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Here are some 6.75" woofer Behringer Truth monitors. I like their bigger brothers alot, and they are comparable to much more expensive monitors for a lot less money. These ones are at $100 for the pair right now with 15 hours to go...
Behringer Truth Monitors (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRUTH-B2030A-STUDIO-MONITORS-USED_W0QQitemZ130034286857QQihZ003QQcategoryZ47093 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD9VQQcmdZViewItem)
These are the ones I have, the B2031A with the 8.75" woofers. These come with stands for $339 plus shipping brand new. Can't beat that with a stick.
Behringer 8.75" monitors (http://cgi.ebay.com/Behringer-Truth-B2031A-Studio-Monitor-Pair-Stands-NEW_W0QQitemZ170036632915QQihZ007QQcategoryZ47093Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD9VQQcmdZViewItem)
Happy shopping. Don't buy junk. You WILL regret it. If you buy this stuff you will have premium gear (The CMX-3000 might not be my bag, but it is the best CD shuttle on the market by quite a bit... just not as useful as the CDJ-1000's in my opinion) and be out the door for right around $1000 for $3000 worth of stuff at retail.
It is the stuff I have, and people are blown away at my rig. I paid a hell of a lot more for it than that too.
Used great gear is awesome if you know what you are looking for. When you go looking for a PA... drop me another line. I have three of them, and have some good advice for you on that end.

Cheap Thrills
10-08-2006, 07:50 AM
You can always tell a DJ but you can't tell em much. :rolleyes: :D
Why anyone would want a set of self powered Near Field monitors to entertain a party with is beyond me. While they may be great ( Depending on the brand) for studio work they're not so great for outdoor events or large groups, the dispersion pattern is all wrong for long projection, something you want when trying to fill a room or a yard full of people.
I agree portability may be an issue with larger systems, there are drawbacks on both sides of the fence. If you think I can't come up with a system like what these guys are looking for with $800 in my pocket you're wrong. Not only would I come back with some jamin Pro sound gear but I'll buy the first case of beer with the change. I have more equiptment sitting on the shelf than I can say grace over.
If shipping wasn't so expensive I'd sell these cheap !
Or if you were local I'd just turn you onto them and tell you to have fun.
full size link (http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127100_0194.jpg)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1127100_0194-med.jpg
As protable as the behringers ? hell no , but put them outdoors side by side and you'll see my point.
This wasn't ment to be a flame to froggy or anyone else, it is just my opinion on what works where.
I spent the first twenty years of my life in our family owned electronics repair shop and had a soldering iron in my hand building vacume tube amplifiers when most of the kids my age were trying to figure out how to draw a circle on their Etch-O-Sketch. :D
So I have been at for a long time. And you know us old timers are kind of set in our ways.
C.T. :wink:

Phat Matt
10-08-2006, 09:11 AM
:)
JBL Eons are cool.

Cheap Thrills
10-08-2006, 11:52 AM
I've been consumed by this DJ gear search and was looking at some gear from Musicians Friend.
Although most of this stuff is not US made I believe it's a good bang for the buck. with FREE shipping and it's new. `-
So here's my latest effort to maintain the $800 limit. just for shits and giggles.
American Audio dual CD player @ $170 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-DCDPro310-Dual-Tray-DJ-CD-Player?sku=804577V)
5 channel Behringer mixer with tone control, digital effects and BPM counter @ $161 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-DJX700-5Channel-Pro-DJ-Mixer-with-Digital-Effects-BPM-Counter?sku=631245X)
Kustom KPC15 speakers @ $210 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-KPC15-15-PA-Speaker-Cabinet-with-Horn?sku=600816X)
I use to have some Kustom gear back in the 70s and it was good back then but couldn't vouch for them now but for the price of two of these 15" cabs with horns I don't think they're a bad deal.
Kustom speaker stands @ $60 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-Profile-Speaker-Stand-?sku=450330)
American Audio VLP-600 amp @ $219 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-VLP600-Power-Amplifier?sku=803184)
I did a little research on this stuff and it's American design made in China :yuk: but what the hell you're on a budget. :p it also has a limiter built in as well as a hi/lo pass filters. alot of nice features for an amp priced this low.
Total = $820.00
Now all you need is a set of cables and a rack to stick it in. :rollside:
I may do a little searching for some more used gear but the shipping on that stuff really eats up the budget.
C.T. :wink:

Froggystyle
10-08-2006, 06:27 PM
I've been consumed by this DJ gear search and was looking at some gear from Musicians Friend.
Although most of this stuff is not US made I believe it's a good bang for the buck. with FREE shipping and it's new. `-
So here's my latest effort to maintain the $800 limit. just for shits and giggles.
American Audio dual CD player @ $170 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-DCDPro310-Dual-Tray-DJ-CD-Player?sku=804577V)
5 channel Behringer mixer with tone control, digital effects and BPM counter @ $161 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-DJX700-5Channel-Pro-DJ-Mixer-with-Digital-Effects-BPM-Counter?sku=631245X)
Kustom KPC15 speakers @ $210 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-KPC15-15-PA-Speaker-Cabinet-with-Horn?sku=600816X)
I use to have some Kustom gear back in the 70s and it was good back then but couldn't vouch for them now but for the price of two of these 15" cabs with horns I don't think they're a bad deal.
Kustom speaker stands @ $60 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-Profile-Speaker-Stand-?sku=450330)
American Audio VLP-600 amp @ $219 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-VLP600-Power-Amplifier?sku=803184)
I did a little research on this stuff and it's American design made in China :yuk: but what the hell you're on a budget. :p it also has a limiter built in as well as a hi/lo pass filters. alot of nice features for an amp priced this low.
Total = $820.00
Now all you need is a set of cables and a rack to stick it in. :rollside:
I may do a little searching for some more used gear but the shipping on that stuff really eats up the budget.
C.T. :wink:
You are serious?
Hey bro... enjoy the gear. I think that you will probably have fun with whatever you get.
That crap is pure basura though.
Get good gear and don't regret it. That stuff is for kids.
Think about it... if someone comes on here and says "I have $25,000 and want go get a custom boat, what should I get?" the unanimous response is to go find a good used boat from a reputable, high quality manufacturer. Nobody would ever suggest that the guy go and try to find a $25,000 new custom boat. Not that you couldn't get a new boat for $25,000, it is just that you are way, way better off with a premium boat that is a couple years old. What you have suggested is the boating equivalent of a Chinese Bahner splash with a 4 cylinder hyundai motor turning a plastic prop.
I have personally played two parties with my Behringers and was told to turn it down by neighbors each time. They are not a PA, and they are not designed for "rocking a party" outdoors. But you can rent a PA, and this gives him something to listen to his mixing with for the next year until he is good enough to spin a party.
Premium gear rentals will cost you less than $100 per event. This is a far superior plan to buying crap.
Whatever...

Froggystyle
10-08-2006, 06:42 PM
So I have been at for a long time. And you know us old timers are kind of set in our ways.
C.T. :wink:
Clearly, indicated by the Peavy's... ;)
Out of curiosity, are those SP4G's? I have a set of those downstairs I had for my last band with an 800 watt Peavy 8 channel powered mixer. Since then, I have bumped it up a notch or two with the PA... ;)

cxr133
10-08-2006, 07:34 PM
I've been consumed by this DJ gear search and was looking at some gear from Musicians Friend.
Although most of this stuff is not US made I believe it's a good bang for the buck. with FREE shipping and it's new. `-
So here's my latest effort to maintain the $800 limit. just for shits and giggles.
American Audio dual CD player @ $170 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-DCDPro310-Dual-Tray-DJ-CD-Player?sku=804577V)
5 channel Behringer mixer with tone control, digital effects and BPM counter @ $161 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-DJX700-5Channel-Pro-DJ-Mixer-with-Digital-Effects-BPM-Counter?sku=631245X)
Kustom KPC15 speakers @ $210 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-KPC15-15-PA-Speaker-Cabinet-with-Horn?sku=600816X)
I use to have some Kustom gear back in the 70s and it was good back then but couldn't vouch for them now but for the price of two of these 15" cabs with horns I don't think they're a bad deal.
Kustom speaker stands @ $60 Pr. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Kustom-Profile-Speaker-Stand-?sku=450330)
American Audio VLP-600 amp @ $219 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-Audio-VLP600-Power-Amplifier?sku=803184)
I did a little research on this stuff and it's American design made in China :yuk: but what the hell you're on a budget. :p it also has a limiter built in as well as a hi/lo pass filters. alot of nice features for an amp priced this low.
Total = $820.00
Now all you need is a set of cables and a rack to stick it in. :rollside:
I may do a little searching for some more used gear but the shipping on that stuff really eats up the budget.
C.T. :wink:
Thanks for the info Cheap Thrills...
Froggystyle i think this reply was from my post that i did not think that the guy who started this post or my wife really has the resources or the time to start hitting pawn shops, checking recycler.com or waiting for bids to end on ebay to get the highest quality CLUB gear. i think what we wanted is some entry level equipment that was easy to order and farly reliable to play around in the backyard. remember the orignal posters' equipment is for his DAD to play around with and if i get mine it will just for when friends coming over and we are having a few beers or maybe for my teenager and his friends to use and probbaly thrash a little.

BlownHowardCat
10-09-2006, 01:14 AM
What about B-52's ??....This looks like a good deal and they sound good....
B-52's (http://djshopping.com/matrix-1000.html)
New...warranty.......easy hook up.......Another $500.00 for a basic dual cd player, mixer and a rack for it and your off.......Over the $800.00 budget but this is Hot Boat.....Everything here is over budget.....This was my "backyard party" for the weekend.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/crowdpic.jpg
Why do they call me the DJ ???......my CD player has 1 slot...my mixer has 32 channels and only 1 red light on the output meter... I dont spend alotta time on the headphones. My EQ curve dosent look like a smile.....My amps aren't turned all the way up..... :)

Cheap Thrills
10-09-2006, 06:12 AM
You are serious?
Hey bro... enjoy the gear. I think that you will probably have fun with whatever you get.
That crap is pure basura though.
Get good gear and don't regret it. That stuff is for kids.
Think about it... if someone comes on here and says "I have $25,000 and want go get a custom boat, what should I get?" the unanimous response is to go find a good used boat from a reputable, high quality manufacturer. Nobody would ever suggest that the guy go and try to find a $25,000 new custom boat. Not that you couldn't get a new boat for $25,000, it is just that you are way, way better off with a premium boat that is a couple years old. What you have suggested is the boating equivalent of a Chinese Bahner splash with a 4 cylinder hyundai motor turning a plastic prop.
I have personally played two parties with my Behringers and was told to turn it down by neighbors each time. They are not a PA, and they are not designed for "rocking a party" outdoors. But you can rent a PA, and this gives him something to listen to his mixing with for the next year until he is good enough to spin a party.
Premium gear rentals will cost you less than $100 per event. This is a far superior plan to buying crap.
Whatever...
I was as serious as I could get with the Jap Crap. The guys are on a budget and don't have the time or the experience to look for used pro sound gear. I wasn't knocking your behringers
I'm sure they work fine for you. I was just simply stating that I didn't understand why someone would use a Near Field monitor for entertaining a croud when they are clearly designed for , well , near field monitoring. If they work for your applications then great more power to you. My post wasn't ment to flame you as I stated before I was just wondering why you would choose to use them. It's like using a kitchen knife for a screwdriver. Sure it works but it's not the intended purpose for the kitchen knife to be used as a screw driver ( Since you're so fond of metaphors) :D
Oh and the neighbors complained because the dispersion pattern on near field monitors goes to hell after 10 feet . you would get fewer complaints from the neighbors and more volume to your listeners with less power with a speaker with a little more focus and control.
Clearly, indicated by the Peavy's... ;)
Out of curiosity, are those SP4G's? I have a set of those downstairs I had for my last band with an 800 watt Peavy 8 channel powered mixer. Since then, I have bumped it up a notch or two with the PA... ;)
Not SP4s they're old 112PAs the amp obviously is the legendary CS-800. and since is was such a bad design they're still making amps based off the design. :rolleyes:
I have 4 SP2s, 2 , 4x12 UVX cabs loaded with EV-DL12Xs and 2 EL36s in my main array powered by QSC and Peavey. No I can't throw it in the back of a VW and DJ with it but that's not what I do. I'm not a DJ nor would I ever profess to be one I have a reputation to uphold :D
I can think of several steps up on the ladder from Peavey But it's what I use.
Thanks for the info Cheap Thrills....
You're quite welcome. I'm just trying to help. Too bad you guys aren't local. I would load you up with some gear I could use some more space in the garrage. :rollside:
What about B-52's ??....This looks like a good deal and they sound good....
Why do they call me the DJ ???......my CD player has 1 slot...my mixer has 32 channels and only 1 red light on the output meter... I dont spend alotta time on the headphones. My EQ curve dosent look like a smile.....My amps aren't turned all the way up..... :)
I've read alot of good reviews on the B-52 stuff but haven't had the oportunity to demo any.
Don't feel bad about being called a DJ I get slandered all the time too. :D
I believe the DBX Drive rack is designed to self destruct upon the setting of the dreaded smiley curve. :p
C.T. :wink:

cxr133
10-26-2006, 07:30 PM
BUMP for an update....
i got a Stanton STR8-80 turntable package w/ mixer and needles, mixer and cables for about 350.00 shipped. (ebay)
i am planning on using a program called Virtual DJ using Time Coded Vinyls to play/scratch my Mp3 files.
oh yeah.. my wife bought me a DJing class at Scratch Academy on the westside for my birthday yesterday!!!
guesss i just need speakers now.. and in the future maybe some Numark CDX's

C-2
10-26-2006, 07:49 PM
So is the anticipation killing ya yet?
Congrats.
And Scratch Academy - that's way cool, way to go wifey!
CT will recommend the Peavs'

HTRDLNCN
10-26-2006, 08:56 PM
The dj market has become so saturated and so large that it is impossible to
reccomend a "best" setup.
You have everything from the guy doing a $50 wedding with a pair of Ipods
that thinks he is a dj to the guy/girl with a computer+pcdj and a ton of
downloaded/ripped off music doing a school party to the guys/girls making
$1500+ a night using 3 1200s,3 cdjs and a pro tools setup all at the same
time.
You have guys/girls that can read a crowd and play the perfect song but
couldnt mix two song togther if their private parts depended on it and
guys/girls that can mix like they were born doing it but cant read a crowd to
save their life.
For those thinking about actually working/making money at it ,
it would be like asking a guitar player what guitar to get.
You have to start be indentifying your style,your crowd,and what your
particular talents are .Just like being a musician if your not really
talented and willing to work your ass off dont bother.
Buying equipment and music doesnt really make anyone
a "DJ" anymore than buying a guitar makes anyone a musician.
For the rest this doesnt mean you cant have a ton of fun
playing around with it though! :p
Just dont spend a ton of money on stuff that will just be
collecting dust in a few months.
doesnt really help you but my setup:
Crest 6210 (copy of Urei 1620) , 2 TT1210s, Denon dual mp3/cd player
,Mains= 6 TMS2 turbosound tops, 4 eaw la400 subs,DBX driverack and crest
power. Dj monitor = Tms1+TSW218 Turbosound powered by Stewart World
2000 amp. dont forget ancillary equipment like trussing,intelligent lighting,etc..
been doing it since 81 aside from also doing live sound..
http://www.plpaudio.com/
and every major club I know of still has Technics tables..
at least in the little part of the nightclub world I used
to work in for 15 years called South Beach..
:cool:

Froggystyle
10-26-2006, 09:09 PM
and every major club I know of still has Technics tables..
at least in the little part of the nightclub world I used to work in for 15 years called South Beach..
:cool:
I know. Tough to believe after spinning on both of them, but there it is.
It is why I bought some Techs. They are way harder to spin on, lack the accuracy and are weaker, but if that is what I am going to have to spin on in the club scene, that is what I have to practice on.
So, unfortunately, until the clubs get around to getting the good gear (those Techs aren't going to die, they just aren't very advanced) I think this is going to be the standard.
If the TTX's were out when the Techs came out, people wouldn't know what a Tech was now though.

HTRDLNCN
10-26-2006, 09:22 PM
For us old guys its just what you know I guess.
I can literally mix on them without even looking at my hands.
I can spin 3 at a time walk away ,walk back
and they are all still on beat. Enough accuracy for me.
Then again I have never even tried anything else,
dont want to risk it I guess,LOL..

Angry Inch
10-26-2006, 09:48 PM
For us old guys its just what you know I guess.
I can literally mix on them without even looking at my hands.
I can spin 3 at a time walk away ,walk back
and they are all still on beat. Enough accuracy for me.
Then again I have never even tried anything else,
dont want to risk it I guess,LOL..
They are still have the most accurate drive system in the industry, damn near perfect pitch. There is a reason they have been the standard for over 25 years.

Charley
10-27-2006, 12:01 AM
still have yet to see a highend DJ rider ask for any TT's but 1200's, plenty ask for the dual CDs Pioneer, denon seem to be the flavor of the month... Froggy is right If you are serious about spinning gte good stuff.... I don't mean esoteric, top of the line stuff, but stay away from crap, it will break often and limit your horizons as an artist.... assuming that's the level you want to take it

HOSS
11-01-2006, 12:31 PM
i purchased from this company http://pssl.com/ i told them what i wanted and this is what i got. it was a good deal also. here is what i got for this price 2,169.67
Product Number Qty Description
DN-D4500 01 1 DENON DND4500 DUAL CD/MP3 PLAYER
DM-1200 01 1 NUMARK DM1200 19 IN DJ MIXER W/DUAL 6 BAND EQ
JRX115 01 2 JBL JRX115 PORTABLE 15 INCH 2-WAY SPEAKER
MRC-6 01 1 GEMINI MRC6 6 SPACE SLANT RACK - BLACK
S100-S-25SP 01 2 MONSTER S100 SPEAKER CABLE: SPEAKON X SPEAKON 25FT
MDJ-X-1M 01 2 MONSTER PROLINK CABLE PAIR: XLR(F) x XLR(M) 3.3FT
XTI-2000 01 1 CROWN XTI-2000 POWER AMP 475W @ 8 OHMS
http://pssl.com/
Then you woke up and quit telling lies.

godfather
11-01-2006, 12:42 PM
OK :rolleyes:

Cheap Thrills
11-01-2006, 12:55 PM
CT will recommend the Peavs'
Why would you say that ? :D
C.T. :wink:

HOSS
11-01-2006, 12:57 PM
Just how much did you pay for that laptop again?