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txboatnut
01-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Ok guys got some questions on my interior. I have a taylor ss. The seats mount to a aluminum plate that is bolted to the floor and to the side of the boat.
1. What is the best way to secure the seats in those two places? I tried using lag screws but they did not hold very well.
2. Since I re did my seats I built them out of marine plywood so do I need to use some resin on them to help keep water out.
3. If so never worked with fiberglass or resin so how much resin do you use and what is the mix ratio?
Any help any one can give me would be great.

sleekcrafter
01-17-2006, 08:44 PM
On the seat question, you can coat them with Polyuethene, glass or epoxie resin. If you cannot get a fastener to hold in the floor, chances are your floor may be soft, like rotten, as it's very common in our older boats. The floors are generally plywood, covered with a layer of glass mat, then carpeted. So don't expect an eigth inch of fiberglass to hold your seat in place. The floors absorb water from rain, heavy usage, leaks, water over the side or transom. The plywood floor is not coated on the bottom side, there for it absorbs moisture, and taking on lots of water weight, all while slowly decomposing, and rotting. You may want to check that floor out, before the season hits.
Sleek

txboatnut
01-18-2006, 06:30 PM
the plate that bolts to the floor is solid. It is where the seat bolts to the plate I have problems. I dont know how they were held in before because the seats were rotted away. Thanks for the resin tips.

sleekcrafter
01-18-2006, 06:57 PM
Maybe shoot a picture and post it up here, and someone can chime in.
Sleek

lilrick
01-18-2006, 07:10 PM
don't take big guys like me for a ride !!!!!!! your seats will appreciate it!!

Devilman
01-19-2006, 04:22 AM
the plate that bolts to the floor is solid. It is where the seat bolts to the plate I have problems. I dont know how they were held in before because the seats were rotted away. Thanks for the resin tips.
You have any pics of it at all? I had to completely rebuild my interior, it was rotted all the way through. Seat frames, bases, everything. Took pictures of it all before I tore it apart so I would have something to look at as a guide, just in case..... My seat bases are all held in with aluminum angle, screwed to the floor.... :cool:

kp216
01-19-2006, 04:49 AM
Kind of the same thing here D-Man. My original seat bases attached to strips of wood that were glassed to the hull/floor.
When I redid the interior, I used 2" X 2" aluminum angle that I glassed to the floor/hull. The seat bases were then attached to the angle by stainless screws.
That was almost 3 years ago and they're solid.

txboatnut
01-19-2006, 06:47 PM
rick kinda tough to follow your advice since I am a big guy :) . Anyway maybe this will help.

sleekcrafter
01-19-2006, 06:58 PM
Well, I've never encountered that type mount, but could you employ, some wood inside the seat barrel, to bite the screws into? Should'nt be too big of a problem.
Sleek

Devilman
01-20-2006, 04:56 AM
Haven't seen a seat mount set-up like that either. Almost looks like longer screws would grab it? When going back together with mine, even though I copied the original pieces, it didn't go back together exactly the same. Driver seat especially so, the bottom edge of the seat back was so rotten, I had to come up with another way to put it together. If that was mine I would try longer screws myself.....

txboatnut
01-20-2006, 06:31 PM
I was going to try some longer screws but was wondering if maybe there was some kind of insert I should be using. Don't want to go to long since it is only 3/4 plywood. I wish I could get look at another taylor ss.

inwo
01-20-2006, 08:38 PM
Stainless T-nuts? Can you get at the back of plywood to insert them?
http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=7&cs=97&cm=6
I just ordered some chrome and SS fasteners from them. Lots of neat stuff in SS.

sleekcrafter
01-21-2006, 07:46 AM
I was going to try some longer screws but was wondering if maybe there was some kind of insert I should be using. Don't want to go to long since it is only 3/4 plywood. I wish I could get look at another taylor ss.
Txboatnut, you can add fiberglass mat, to one, or both side of your plywood. I will really make your fasteners bite. :idea:
Sleek

maxwedge
01-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Here is a pic of the seat mount in my Sidewinder SS. The seat has been rusted off for your ease of viewing. I also removed the "Holly Hobby" pillow wrapped in a trash bag that was hidden under the duct taped vinyl, acting as a cushion. Might be similar to your Taylor. I don't know if this helps any, but incase you can't tell, the seat base is welded, rust bonded, hose clamped, and speaker wired to two flat steel bars that are bolted to the aluminum angle that's bolted to the wood base with lag screws. The steel didn't hold up so well, but the wood and aluminum are fine. You probably could make something similar by raiding your neighbors garbage.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/2890seat_mount.JPG
By the way, if you are putting seats like my Sidewinder had, in your Taylor , I will be over shortly to kick your ass. :D

txboatnut
01-23-2006, 06:19 PM
Stainless T-nuts? Can you get at the back of plywood to insert them?
http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=7&cs=97&cm=6
I just ordered some chrome and SS fasteners from them. Lots of neat stuff in SS.
Inwo,
I could get to the other side If I take the covers off. Which I was going to do to put some resin on to help make them more water proof.

txboatnut
01-23-2006, 06:21 PM
Txboatnut, you can add fiberglass mat, to one, or both side of your plywood. I will really make your fasteners bite. :idea:
Sleek
Sleek,
I could do that. I was going to pull the covers off and put reason on anyway. You think one mat on each side would do it? Where is the best place to get mats and resin?

txboatnut
01-23-2006, 06:25 PM
Here is a pic of the seat mount in my Sidewinder SS. The seat has been rusted off for your ease of viewing. I also removed the "Holly Hobby" pillow wrapped in a trash bag that was hidden under the duct taped vinyl, acting as a cushion. Might be similar to your Taylor. I don't know if this helps any, but incase you can't tell, the seat base is welded, rust bonded, hose clamped, and speaker wired to two flat steel bars that are bolted to the aluminum angle that's bolted to the wood base with lag screws. The steel didn't hold up so well, but the wood and aluminum are fine. You probably could make something similar by raiding your neighbors garbage.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/2890seat_mount.JPG
By the way, if you are putting seats like my Sidewinder had, in your Taylor , I will be over shortly to kick your ass. :D
LOL max.
long haul from IL to TX. Mine did not look like that. If I unbolted that seat from the plate and the side of the boat there is nothing under it. I could try making something like that. I did see the orginal seats and they did not have any thing else. The cushion pretty much rested on the floor of the boat.

sleekcrafter
01-23-2006, 06:30 PM
Sleek,
I could do that. I was going to pull the covers off and put reason on anyway. You think one mat on each side would do it? Where is the best place to get mats and resin?
Well, most auto parts store carry the glass resin, and fiberglass mat. Or if you have a Boat US, or Boater's World near you, they have the stuff too.
Sleek