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[Blown 472]

http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/news.jsp?newsurl=/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/press_release/2006/kbrnws_012406.html

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Since you have a problem with it blown ...............
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract.
What other company/companies were qualified?
It was a "competitively awarded contract" per the article. I guess you didn't read beyond the first 2 lines to catch that part.

[Blown 472]

Since you have a problem with it blown ...............
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract.
What other company/companies were qualified?
It was a "competitively awarded contract" per the article. I guess you didn't read beyond the first 2 lines to catch that part.
Do you ever leave the house?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Since you have a problem with it blown ...............
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract.
What other company/companies were qualified?
It was a "competitively awarded contract" per the article. I guess you didn't read beyond the first 2 lines to catch that part.
Why, you trying to avoid me blown?
Answer buster blown.

[Blown 472]

Since you have a problem with it blown ...............
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract.
What other company/companies were qualified?
It was a "competitively awarded contract" per the article. I guess you didn't read beyond the first 2 lines to catch that part.
Where does it say I have a problem with it?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

DO you have a problem with it? Yes or no answers only blown.
You posted an article about a Haliburton subsidiary contract, and you have a HISTORY of hearburn and bitching over Haliburton, so clear the air blown.
Yes or no.

[Blown 472]

DO you have a problem with it? Yes or no answers only blown.
You posted an article about a Haliburton subsidiary contract, and you have a HISTORY of hearburn and bitching over Haliburton, so clear the air blown.
Yes or no.
What does it matter?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

What does it matter?
"Yes"
or
"NO".

[deltaAce]

"Yes"
or
"NO".
I don't think he can answer........................

[SmokinLowriderSS]

He's looking for someone to explain it to him. It's a very simple question, with a very simple answer.
His problem is his history posted on here the last 2 years parroting the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ when he has no clue what Halliburton does, who their competition in the business is, or anything else but that someone in the govt owns stock in them (which is legal by the way). I 'll bet a LOT of smart govt employees own Haliburton stock, it's a solid performer.
I wish I owned some. My father just might, I have not checked his holdings.
This was a cometetively bid contract, just as all the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ screechers want to claim doesn't happen.
DO you have a problem with Haliburton winning this contract? Yes or no answers only blown
Yes
or
No
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract instead.
What other company/companies were qualified to bid on the contract?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Damn, I gotta wait a week for answers. :yuk: Blown & Steve just went on vacation for "improper arguing".

[eliminatedsprinter]

What does it matter?
It matters, because all the goofy retoric that surrounds, so much of what Halliburton does, in contract with our government, is silly and counterproductive.
The other 2 companies that have the range of services that Halliburton provides are foreign based. By long standing government policy, U.S. companies have priority on recieving U.S. government contracts. Therefore, Halliburton has no real compitition on many types of government jobs. I know the anti capitolist conspiracy types love to make it seem somehow sneaky or corrupt that Halliburton gets so many really big gov contracts (from this and prior administrations). But it's really just a simple matter of policy. Of course, that simple explination is far too boring to make major news or moveon.org type wack job news letters.

[Knotbad]

Since you have a problem with it blown ...............
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract.
What other company/companies were qualified?
It was a "competitively awarded contract" per the article. I guess you didn't read beyond the first 2 lines to catch that part.
The article doesn't say what other companies put bids in on the contract. It DOES say, however, that KBR held the contract for the last five years. Now, considering that Cheney has been CEO of Halliburton/KBR forever(or so it seems), and further considering that Michael Chertoff owes his job to Bush/Cheney(whichever one hired him who knows???), it stands to reason that Halliburton/KBR would be awarded the contract again. As Cheney said about waterboarding, "it's a no-brainer".
Since blown 472 is in time-out, I will answer the question for him; yes I have a problem with Halliburton/KBR handling this contract. I have a problem with everything Halliburton/KBR has done under the Bush administration, expecially in Iraq. They have failed miserably in every phase of their mission over there, especially with regard to how they supply our troops. Our troops deserve better as long as they are under fire in a war, and in peacetime also. Halliburton/KBR has failed them.

[eliminatedsprinter]

The article doesn't say what other companies put bids in on the contract. It DOES say, however, that KBR held the contract for the last five years. Now, considering that Cheney has been CEO of Halliburton/KBR forever(or so it seems), and further considering that Michael Chertoff owes his job to Bush/Cheney(whichever one hired him who knows???), it stands to reason that Halliburton/KBR would be awarded the contract again. As Cheney said about waterboarding, "it's a no-brainer".
Since blown 472 is in time-out, I will answer the question for him; yes I have a problem with Halliburton/KBR handling this contract. I have a problem with everything Halliburton/KBR has done under the Bush administration, expecially in Iraq. They have failed miserably in every phase of their mission over there, especially with regard to how they supply our troops. Our troops deserve better as long as they are under fire in a war, and in peacetime also. Halliburton/KBR has failed them.
V.P. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995-2000. During that time they got tons of contracts from the Clinton Administration. They are the only U.S. firm that provides the range of services they do. That puts them in the front of the line for many types of contracts. No mystery and no influence from V.P. Cheney, or anyone else, is needed.
Now if you don't like the type of job they do that is different matter.

[Schiada76]

In all fairness the contract should have awarded to the Fwench. Oh wait their country is on fire, they're busy with their own homebound terror. :D
They're trying to give up and run away but they have no where to go. :220v:

[Knotbad]

...Now if you don't like the type of job they do that is different matter.
LOL you quoted my post did you not read it???
Try this link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

[eliminatedsprinter]

LOL you quoted my post did you not read it???
Try this link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton
Read the wikipedia link before.
I read your post. Clarify?? In the first paragraph you tossed out Sec. Chertoffs' name in to further consider, please do. The post may be clear to you, since you wrote it, but I can only see the words as written. It's clear as mud to me. You seem to be implying some sort of nefarious connection in that first portion. Explain. The mear fact that Chertoff is a Bush appointee means nothing, since that is how cabnet members are selected, how does it relate to Halliburton??
In the second paragraph you state your opinion of the job they are doing as if it is undisputed fact. Please elaborate. What is it based on? What have they done right vs wrong? Some of their mistakes have made the press. How do they relate overall with the many complicated jobs all their subsidiaries are doing? Who do you think would do these jobs better?
I mearly pointed out that the job they are doing is a seperate matter from how they got the job. How does that imply I didn't read your post??? :)

[Knotbad]

There are at LEAST ten pages of articles documenting Halliburton/KBR's job performances in Iraq. Enjoy.
http://www.google.com/search?q=halliburton%27s+failures+in+Iraq&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

[eliminatedsprinter]

There are at LEAST ten pages of articles documenting Halliburton/KBR's job performances in Iraq. Enjoy.
http://www.google.com/search?q=halliburton%27s+failures+in+Iraq&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
I wasn't requesting a data dump. Just clearer connections and a little better spelled out logic. The above data dump is the opposite of what I was requesting. I'm not trying to dispute what you are saying. Just asking for some brief, on point, clarifications. Nothing more.

[Old Texan]

There are at LEAST ten pages of articles documenting Halliburton/KBR's job performances in Iraq. Enjoy.
http://www.google.com/search?q=halliburton%27s+failures+in+Iraq&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
So tell us what YOU know about Halliburton and KBR. Googling up ramblings isn't what I'd consider accurate research.
Most of these contractors are picked because of experience and ability. Low bidder BS doesn't cut it when the options hinder the "project". LBJ helped put B&R in place and subsequently their offshoot companies have pretty much controlled the contracts in time of need and war.
What do you say about Boeing,Lockheed, and numerous other defense contractor s that just "seem" to always win the bids? Too many view them as "big business" buying everyone off when in essence they are proud American skilled business that get the job done a helluva alot better than anyone else in the world and have the resources to "win" or be awarded contracts no one else can F'ing do..
It really pisses me off when most folks that bitch about our industrial giants winning all the big projects come from lame asse electorates that vote a Ted Kennedy (D-MA) or John Cronin (sp) (D-MI) into office for a lifetime. If you want to put limits on somebody doing a job, start with out House and Senate.
If Nancy Pelosi or Dirtbag Harry Reid had to win on merit they'd still be working for the local CofC in their hometowns booking tour buses.

[Knotbad]

So tell us what YOU know about Halliburton and KBR. Googling up ramblings isn't what I'd consider accurate research.
Most of these contractors are picked because of experience and ability. Low bidder BS doesn't cut it when the options hinder the "project". LBJ helped put B&R in place and subsequently their offshoot companies have pretty much controlled the contracts in time of need and war.
What do you say about Boeing,Lockheed, and numerous other defense contractor s that just "seem" to always win the bids? Too many view them as "big business" buying everyone off when in essence they are proud American skilled business that get the job done a helluva alot better than anyone else in the world and have the resources to "win" or be awarded contracts no one else can F'ing do..
It really pisses me off when most folks that bitch about our industrial giants winning all the big projects come from lame asse electorates that vote a Ted Kennedy (D-MA) or John Cronin (sp) (D-MI) into office for a lifetime. If you want to put limits on somebody doing a job, start with out House and Senate.
If Nancy Pelosi or Dirtbag Harry Reid had to win on merit they'd still be working for the local CofC in their hometowns booking tour buses.
1. I dont know any more about H/KBR and its work than what I read in the paper, but now that I've found all that, I will bone up on my reading. If you want to know how they spend YOUR money I suggest you do the same.
2. "Ramblings" is exactly what I call your post. Much flapping of gums without any purpose.
3. H/KBR's main competitors are Bechtel, Schlumberger and Technip. Now as to whether any of those companies were allowed to send in sealed bids for any of the work H/KBR is doing in Iraq or anywhere else in the world is anybody's guess because they aren't talking, and neither is the selection committee that made the decision to hire H/KBR.
4. As to the rest of your post see comment 2 above.

[Old Texan]

1. I dont know any more about H/KBR and its work than what I read in the paper, but now that I've found all that, I will bone up on my reading. If you want to know how they spend YOUR money I suggest you do the same.
2. "Ramblings" is exactly what I call your post. Much flapping of gums without any purpose.
3. H/KBR's main competitors are Bechtel, Schlumberger and Technip. Now as to whether any of those companies were allowed to send in sealed bids for any of the work H/KBR is doing in Iraq or anywhere else in the world is anybody's guess because they aren't talking, and neither is the selection committee that made the decision to hire H/KBR.
4. As to the rest of your post see comment 2 above.
Wonderful, we have been blessed with the presence of a "Newspaper Scholar".
Reply 3- Is this answer direct from your hometown rag's business section? Very educated staff apparently. :rolleyes:
At 11 posts I believe you are still in potential troll stage as everything you've thrown out has been contradictive with no back-up. A pot stirrer so to speak.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

He's looking for someone to explain it to him. It's a very simple question, with a very simple answer.
His problem is his history posted on here the last 2 years parroting the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ when he has no clue what Halliburton does, who their competition in the business is, or anything else but that someone in the govt owns stock in them (which is legal by the way). I 'll bet a LOT of smart govt employees own Haliburton stock, it's a solid performer.
I wish I owned some. My father just might, I have not checked his holdings.
This was a cometetively bid contract, just as all the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ screechers want to claim doesn't happen.
DO you have a problem with Haliburton winning this contract? Yes or no answers only blown
Yes
or
No
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract instead.
What other company/companies were qualified to bid on the contract?
The bump for you to answer blown, since your buddy hasn't been helping you much
Also, since knot has named the 3 FOREIGN corporations that can do what Haliburton does, would you (and anyone else) be screaming if a foreign corporation were suplying the US millitary with fuel, food, laundry, buiding infrastructure at US expense while the expense money goes to a foreign corporation?
If it is preferable that one of these 3 other companies do the work, JUSTIFY WHY.

[Blown 472]

You are making all kinds of assuptions about this. Did you read it at all?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

He's looking for someone to explain it to him. It's a very simple question, with a very simple answer.
His problem is his history posted on here the last 2 years parroting the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ when he has no clue what Halliburton does, who their competition in the business is, or anything else but that someone in the govt owns stock in them (which is legal by the way). I 'll bet a LOT of smart govt employees own Haliburton stock, it's a solid performer.
I wish I owned some. My father just might, I have not checked his holdings.
This was a cometetively bid contract, just as all the "inside deal Cheney/Halliburton" bullshi+ screechers want to claim doesn't happen.
DO you have a problem with Haliburton winning this contract? Yes or no answers only blown
Yes
or
No
Tell us what other company should have been awarded the contract instead.
What other company/companies were qualified to bid on the contract?
Questions for you blown, 1 is a very simple, yes or no.

[Blown 472]

Questions for you blown, 1 is a very simple, yes or no.
The reason I posted it was the fact they building detention centers not who got them, you read into that all on your own, a such a nice job you did too.
Now dont you find it odd we are building these centers??

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Ahem ............
Do you have a problem with them building them, AND should a third country corproration have that contract instead? Why.

[Her454]

You boyz didnt learn a damn thing did ya? :crossx:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

He Her454.
Ummmmm I didn't get sent to my room for a week. :p
I play well with others, I just don't play FAIR. :crossx:

[Blown 472]

Ahem ............
Do you have a problem with them building them, AND should a third country corproration have that contract instead? Why.
HELLO, I WILL TYPE SLOW AND LARGE SO YOU UNDERSTAND, DONT CARE WHO IS BUILDING THEM, WONDERING WHY THEY ARE GETTING BUILT. SHEESH.

[Blown 472]

You boyz didnt learn a damn thing did ya? :crossx:
I am not calling anyone out, and we are talking politics just like rex said we should. You wear out your broom the other nite?? heheheheheh

[SmokinLowriderSS]

HELLO, I WILL TYPE SLOW AND LARGE SO YOU UNDERSTAND, DONT CARE WHO IS BUILDING THEM, WONDERING WHY THEY ARE GETTING BUILT. SHEESH.
To detain the large numbers of terrorist criminals that get captured alive blown.... Helloooooooo.... not all of them GET to die for 77 virgins.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

The reason I posted it was the fact they building detention centers not who got them, you read into that all on your own, a such a nice job you did too.
Now dont you find it odd we are building these centers??
Cool, it only took 26 posts for you to explain WHY you posted the hotlink in post 1 ................. sheeeeesh.

[abraman1326]

I still didn't understand his answer.
Maybe Blown is waiting for Michael Moore to tell him why he should be hesitant about how/ why Halliburburten (sp) got the contract...
BRA

[Blown 472]

I still didn't understand his answer.
Maybe Blown is waiting for Michael Moore to tell him why he should be hesitant about how/ why Halliburburten (sp) got the contract...
BRA
Duh yeah, can you read?