it took 60 minutes to Call Bush Stupid!

[centerhill condor]

I watched enough of 60 minutes Sunday afternoon. A nice pant load, to borrow a phrase.
At the end Andy Rooney, the same guy that complains about telephone poles, suggested that the President have a state of the union style speech to admit that the entire Iraq policy was a mistake and we're pulling out immediately.
Thanks for the support there guys...CBS (call Bush stupid) had a story about the genocide in Darfur.. Nancy Pelosi and Leslie stahl were having a Bush bashing contest...and the lead story was about misappropriation of funds in Iraq.
Which one of these stories is "news", short for new story?
Every time the gov't spends a dollar there is theft and waste. The answer; get the gov't out of the spending business.
Black on Black violence? In Africa, no less? Say it aint so! Where's Jesse?
A politician bashing the president? The only president that has not been bashed was George Washington. A devout Christian that fought against revolutionary war benefits for veterans because he didn't want the new country to become a welfare state. Try that today and you'll only need 2 "for president" buttons. Mom will wear one...while she's moving her stuff out of your room.
You're right...I should've turned it off and I did switch quite frequently.
The press was all over the gov't in Germany until the Hitler took the reigns. Guess they didn't see that coming? Kinda like those guys with the swords, towels, and book of which they're sooo zealous to make you read.
One glaring omission from the show was an Idea! Just one idea with, say a paragraph of details. In case you haven't noticed ideas with details are woefully lacking in this election cycle. The media has hijacked the process into a rhetoric-athon. All style, no substance, all the time.
If you want a better world we'll have to pray, teach, and work for it. You can help by getting involved in the process. Most of yall have the boats down anyway with a little time you can fix the country!
I'll be glad when this election is completed, until then I'll be off the news channels again. I've got signs in my yard and have worked a few campaigns. I suggest you do the same or expect more of the same.

[Old Texan]

I watched bits and pieces of the episode. My comments on what I saw:
-Be scared of Nancy Pelosi, be very scared. She is no leader and is the epitome of what is wrong with liberals. This woman will tax us out of existance while tearing apart our military and blowing up what little border protection we have left. Get ready for "Adopt a Migrant" if Nancy is in charge.
-The man from the "'world whatever organization for poor non muslim people be killed by rampant tyrants" (genocide), blamed the people of the USA for not being aware and stepping in. Well how come everytime the US steps in we're called meddlesome bullies? What the hellis the UN supposed to be solving? :rolleyes:

[deltaAce]

I don't know what else to do, other than vote against those liberals.
Maybe it's time to get nasty & up in the face of the retards who vote these fools into office. Iv'e always tried to be nice toward people with a Democrate mindset, maybe not anymore because they help to ruin our Country. No more political correct crap. When I here someone extolling the virtues of liberals, I'm going to blast them verbaly on what morons they are. :crossx:

[lilrick]

I watched the Andy Rooney thing and I thought it was very well layed out, and made sense no matter what side you're on!

[Old Texan]

I watched the Andy Rooney thing and I thought it was very well layed out, and made sense no matter what side you're on!
You just got turned on by Andy's bushy eyebrows. Gives him that wild look... :p

[centerhill condor]

I watched the Andy Rooney thing and I thought it was very well layed out, and made sense no matter what side you're on!
well, allright...suppose we pull out of Iraq this week...then what? because no matter your position on the military operation in Iraq there will be a "then what".

[Red Horse]

We pull out of Iraq now and we didnt do enough. Pull out later and we were there too long.
Americans need to turn off the media and make up their own minds. All these politicians do is get rich off our tax dollars. I am convinced not one of them really gives a damn about this country as long as they get theirs. :crossx: :220v:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

It's that darned "what then" that hangs up the "opposition party" like a cheap suit, every time. I never seem to hear any substantive positive results from it either.

[Knotbad]

Centerhill Condor;
George Washington was not nearly as devout a Christian as you give him credit for. He would most assuredly not support the Bush administration's efforts to undermine Thomas Jefferson's Wall of Separation. He would not support military chaplains either.
As to his opposition to veterans' benefits, I could find nothing in Wikipedia about that. Do you have a link to it, or did you just throw that out there putting YOUR words in HIS mouth?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Care to explain even the EXISTENCE of the "wall of saparation of church & state" .... since it does not exist in the laws of the nation, merely in a letter written by a former president?
How is Pres Bush "undermining" a nonexistent thing?

[Blown 472]

We pull out of Iraq now and we didnt do enough. Pull out later and we were there too long.
Americans need to turn off the media and make up their own minds. All these politicians do is get rich off our tax dollars. I am convinced not one of them really gives a damn about this country as long as they get theirs. :crossx: :220v:
Well the voice of reason has spoken, amen brother.

[3 daytona`s]

Well the voice of reason has spoken, amen brother.
Watching CNN this afternoon for Lou Dobbs,he has my respect big time.I believe him when he says get rid of all of them and start over.There are not many who will say it pubically.There was a segment on soldiers in Afganistan being interviewed, I know maybe the ones they wanted and on and on.The fact every one of them said we have had friends die,we know the risks,BUT WHAT leave now and their lives were worth nothing? Leave now with our tails between our legs? Leave now and fight this fight at home.I believe these guys were legit. Whatever we are living in different times,and your kids and grandkids are going to live the life you help develop. Your Choice

[Knotbad]

That's right. We pull the troops out and the Sunnis and Shiites will catch the next planes to NY with WMDs in their duffel bags Halliburton gave them. That's what the bu$heviks want you to believe.
Fact of the matter is bu$h is building 14 military bases in Iraq to terrorize and dominate the Middle East, in addition to protecting Israel.

[Knotbad]

Care to explain even the EXISTENCE of the "wall of saparation of church & state" .... since it does not exist in the laws of the nation, merely in a letter written by a former president?
How is Pres Bush "undermining" a nonexistent thing?
That letter served as the inspiration for the First Amendment guaranteeing Freedom of Religion. We need another amendment spelling out more precisely what Religion can and cannot do with regard to evengelism, displaying on public property(not allowed even now) and proselytization.
The Supreme Court in the past has ruled in favor of the Wall, but with Thomas the sex fiend, scumbag Scalia and his wacky sidekick Scalito on the court now, the Wall may come tumbling down soon.
This is the worst Court we've had since the beginning of the Republic.

[centerhill condor]

Fact of the matter is bu$h is building 14 military bases in Iraq to terrorize and dominate the Middle East, in addition to protecting Israel.
what is wrong with that? I hope the plan includes democratizing Persia and Syria. Your brothers would be grateful to be liberated and enjoy the freedom you so angrily consume. Get well soon.
has it been a week already?
As for Pres. Washington...you'll have to do more than read what people tell you they thought he meant to say. His words/works give great insight into his heart and indeed our country's humble begining.

[havasu5150]

The "Wall of Separation" states that "the legislature shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excercise thereof."
Does not prohibit those in governement from expressing their religion, nor does it suggest that anything about freedom FROM religion. So if public displays such as a cross in a government lawn etc bothers you......oh well.

[Knotbad]

The "Wall of Separation" states that "the legislature shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excercise thereof."
Does not prohibit those in governement from expressing their religion, nor does it suggest that anything about freedom FROM religion. So if public displays such as a cross in a government lawn etc bothers you......oh well.
If there is no freedom FROM religion there is no freedom OF religion. Any religion that seizes power through the Presidency can then start putting its stranglehold on all the others, including YOURS. That's what Washington and Jefferson understood, and that's why we don't have a National religion like European countries have.
Protect the unbelievers, for if you don't YOU might be next.

[eliminatedsprinter]

I am not religious and I have never in my life felt any real pressure from or by anything or anyone remotly associated with government to ever follow or join any faith....This is how it should be. I can't understand how anyone on the left can fear President Bush or any other President's personal faith. Freedom of religion is an "issue" we resolved long ago here. We are not likely to elect a Mullah President anytime soon, so I have no logical choice, but to think that the lefts' retoric is nothing more than demagoguery intended to frighten people into supporting them and the rest of their silly, emotion based, socialist agenda.
I love it when Leftists say "we win on the issues". Of course they do, since they are the ones who create them in their minds most of the time...

[havasu5150]

So knothead you're saying there should be no public religious displays of anykind, so as not to offnd the non-believers?
By the way I'm not what I would consider religious, do not practice a particular faith, however a religious display is not offensive to me.

[Knotbad]

So knothead you're saying there should be no public religious displays of anykind, so as not to offnd the non-believers?
By the way I'm not what I would consider religious, do not practice a particular faith, however a religious display is not offensive to me.
No havafool that's knot what I said.

[QuickJet]

That's right. We pull the troops out and the Sunnis and Shiites will catch the next planes to NY with WMDs in their duffel bags Halliburton gave them. That's what the bu$heviks want you to believe.
Want us to believe??? Already seen it happen smart guy! No convincing needed here. Just keep your head in the sand and avoid all reality little bitch. ASSES UP!!!

[Old Texan]

No havafool that's knot what I said.
Hey Troll, does your pagan pirate club religion require you to keep a little hairy assed statue on the dashboard of your canoe? Or maybe some gorilla nuts dice hanging from your ski mirror......
If what you post is what you believe, you're a fool. If it's Troll jibberish as it appears, you're pathetic.
Now go work on that acne before your cousin comes to pick you up for your date or she won't kiss ya.......

[centerhill condor]

[QUOTE=Knotbad]Centerhill Condor;
George Washington was not nearly as devout a Christian as you give him credit for. He would most assuredly not support the Bush administration's efforts to undermine Thomas Jefferson's Wall of Separation. He would not support military chaplains either.
QUOTE]
A Portion of George Washington's personal prayers:
“O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
“ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”
"Make me to know what is acceptable in Thy sight, and therein to delight, open the eyes of my understanding, and help me thoroughly to examine myself concerning my knowledge, faith, and repentance, increase my faith, and direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the Way, the Truth, and the Life, ..."
[from a 24 page authentic handwritten manuscript book dated April 21-23, 1752]
I have a T-shirt that says plainly, "Our Consitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" - John Adams
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
--George Washington in a speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779
You don't have to believe in anything. That is totally between you and your conscience. You'll get no condemnation from me. I will continue to pray for your salvation as I do for my own.

[Blown 472]

That's right. We pull the troops out and the Sunnis and Shiites will catch the next planes to NY with WMDs in their duffel bags Halliburton gave them. That's what the bu$heviks want you to believe.
Fact of the matter is bu$h is building 14 military bases in Iraq to terrorize and dominate the Middle East, in addition to protecting Israel.
You mean letting israel terrorize the mid east.

[deltaAce]

Thank you centerhill condor for the reassurance that indeed our founding father was a loving Christian, as clearly indicated in his prayer. It is not hard to sumise that the combined prayers of a nation would result in America's rise to the most plentyful & powerful country thats been.
"Our Consitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" - John Adams
It is easy to see that when a people lose their Christain foundation & debuachery replaces wholesomeness, new laws are required to rein in the evil, thus the loss of civil peoples rights & freedoms. When I was a kid I remember seeing cowboys in our town, shopping in the market with pistols in holsters & I never felt worried. The rise of sh!t bags (most of which have no God) has eliminated many simple freedoms.

[Knotbad]

Thank you centerhill condor for the reassurance that indeed our founding father was a loving Christian, as clearly indicated in his prayer. It is not hard to sumise that the combined prayers of a nation would result in America's rise to the most plentyful & powerful country thats been.
It is easy to see that when a people lose their Christain foundation & debuachery replaces wholesomeness, new laws are required to rein in the evil, thus the loss of civil peoples rights & freedoms. When I was a kid I remember seeing cowboys in our town, shopping in the market with pistols in holsters & I never felt worried. The rise of sh!t bags (most of which have no God) has eliminated many simple freedoms.
What better way to characterize as sh!tbags, those who don't believe as you do. You have restored my faith in religious lunacy.

[deltaAce]

What better way to characterize as sh!tbags, those who don't believe as you do. You have restored my faith in religious lunacy.
Please pardon me, I wasn't saying people that don't believe in God are sh!tbags, I meant most sh!tbags (defined as the worst criminals) haven't a moral compass as provided (not solely) by the believe in God.