You guys aren't gonn like this.

[Dominator Scott]

This weekend I am doing the last bit of restoration and modification to my dad's Sanger before he comes down on the 18th and I surprise him.
I am installing 4 cleats on the boat so he can tie it off easier to his dock. He had throat cancer and now has a trache tube in his neck so water isn't exactly his friend if he were to fall in the lake from trying to tie off from the bow eye or the stern. I actually thought about mounting them on the inside of the gunnel (similar to the passenger grab handle)so they don't take away from the lines of the hull. 2 cleats next to the front seats and 2 back in engine compartment gunnels. Cleats are a must for my fathers safety.
What do you guys think?

[Sanger Jet]

sometimes I wish I had some.....When I see the big boats tie up at a marina :cry:

[oldbuck40]

This weekend I am doing the last bit of restoration and modification to my dad's Sanger before he comes down on the 18th and I surprise him.
I am installing 4 cleats on the boat so he can tie it off easier to his dock. He had throat cancer and now has a trache tube in his neck so water isn't exactly his friend if he were to fall in the lake from trying to tie off from the bow eye or the stern. I actually thought about mounting them on the inside of the gunnel (similar to the passenger grab handle)so they don't take away from the lines of the hull. 2 cleats next to the front seats and 2 back in engine compartment gunnels. Cleats are a must for my fathers safety.
What do you guys think?why should it matter what we think! if its for your dads safety i say go for it and put em all in easy to get to places!
if others dont like it tell em to kiss your AZZ

[IMPATIENT 1]

safety 1st! if my hull was thick enough for some of those cool azz recessed billet cleats, i'd have a couple on my tx-19.

[Devilman]

This weekend I am doing the last bit of restoration and modification to my dad's Sanger before he comes down on the 18th and I surprise him.
I am installing 4 cleats on the boat so he can tie it off easier to his dock. He had throat cancer and now has a trache tube in his neck so water isn't exactly his friend if he were to fall in the lake from trying to tie off from the bow eye or the stern. I actually thought about mounting them on the inside of the gunnel (similar to the passenger grab handle)so they don't take away from the lines of the hull. 2 cleats next to the front seats and 2 back in engine compartment gunnels. Cleats are a must for my fathers safety.
What do you guys think?
I had thought about that myself awhile back, just never got off my ass & did it. :rollside: Seems like the best location to keep them easy to get to for your dad while keeping them somewhat out of sight & messing up the hull. My opinion anyway. On the front two, if they're close to the seats, seems like it would be possible to snag something on them or jab an elbow with them.....

[Devilman]

why should it matter what we think! if its for your dads safety i say go for it and put em all in easy to get to places!
if others dont like it tell em to kiss your AZZ
Calm down gramps......LMAO

[Dominator Scott]

safety 1st! if my hull was thick enough for some of those cool azz recessed billet cleats, i'd have a couple on my tx-19.
Recessed cleats would be cool but they are pretty pricey. Sunsation Powerboats was generous enough to provide me with a set of four 6" stainless cleats free of charge so that is what I will be using.
I just hate the thought of drilling into this beautiful MitcherT paint job.

[460 jus getn it]

Calm down gramps......LMAO
He got all upset and shit...................i see them flashing lights again.

[Devilman]

He got all upset and shit...................i see them flashing lights again.
This could go downhill so flippin fast. :D That's all I'm saying.... :rollside: LOL

[Devilman]

Recessed cleats would be cool but they are pretty pricey. Sunsation Powerboats was generous enough to provide me with a set of four 6" stainless cleats free of charge so that is what I will be using.
I just hate the thought of drilling into this beautiful MitcherT paint job.
I hear ya, keep 'em inside the gunnels for sure!

[Jordy]

I have little fold down T-style cleats on the inside of the gunwales on my jet. One set are just in front of the front seats and the other are back in the engine compartment. Really don't even notice they're there. ;)

[oldbuck40]

He got all upset and shit...................i see them flashing lights again.GO mind yo Bizz on ISL or i'll see to it that some certain pic's get put up over here! lol now i hear the waaaaaaaaaaaammmmbulance coming!

[Cas]

I have little fold down T-style cleats on the inside of the gunwales on my jet. One set are just in front of the front seats and the other are back in the engine compartment. Really don't even notice they're there. ;)
true, I had a set on a boat a few years ago and they worked great.
http://www.fishing-catalog.com/AcconMarine/images2/folding-clsed_200.jpg
http://www.fishing-catalog.com/AcconMarine/images2/folding-open_200.jpg

[roostwear]

Since it already had cleats on it (lovely blue anodized POS's), I'm putting 4 new ones on. You have a wide selection to choose from..... I'm putting old school cleats on that fit the era of my Stevens.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/cleats/brass-cleats/SD042103-G.jpg

[Dominator Scott]

true, I had a set on a boat a few years ago and they worked great.
http://www.fishing-catalog.com/AcconMarine/images2/folding-clsed_200.jpg
http://www.fishing-catalog.com/AcconMarine/images2/folding-open_200.jpg
I really like those style cleats. Where can I find them? :rollside:

[MOBrien]

D-Scott,
boat looks REALLY nice!!! What did you start with? Full blown restoration??
I'm thinking pops is gonna freak.

[Ken F]

DScott, been thinking about putting some on my Cheyenne too.
I also thought about putting them inside the Gunnels, but think about a rope dragging back and forth across your new paint as it moves around on the waves & swells.
Ken F

[Devilman]

DScott, been thinking about putting some on my Cheyenne too.
I also thought about putting them inside the Gunnels, but think about a rope dragging back and forth across your new paint.
Ken F
Doh! Excellent point......

[Dominator Scott]

DScott, been thinking about putting some on my Cheyenne too.
I also thought about putting them inside the Gunnels, but think about a rope dragging back and forth across your new paint as it moves around on the waves & swells.
Ken F
You have a point there.

[b's sanger]

This weekend I am doing the last bit of restoration and modification to my dad's Sanger before he comes down on the 18th and I surprise him.
I am installing 4 cleats on the boat so he can tie it off easier to his dock. He had throat cancer and now has a trache tube in his neck so water isn't exactly his friend if he were to fall in the lake from trying to tie off from the bow eye or the stern. I actually thought about mounting them on the inside of the gunnel (similar to the passenger grab handle)so they don't take away from the lines of the hull. 2 cleats next to the front seats and 2 back in engine compartment gunnels. Cleats are a must for my fathers safety.
What do you guys think?
They do make some that collapse and are flush when not in use. If you have to do it thats the way to go inside the gunwhales.
B

[Dominator Scott]

D-Scott,
boat looks REALLY nice!!! What did you start with? Full blown restoration??
I'm thinking pops is gonna freak.
Yes she was a full blown restoration on the boat and trailer,interior and exterior and some motor and jet upgrades as well. Here are a couple before and after pics.

[Dominator Scott]

They do make some that collapse and are flush when not in use. If you have to do it thats the way to go inside the gunwhales.
B
Who carries them like the ones posted above?

[b's sanger]

Who carries them like the ones posted above?
Rex Marine, Eddie marine both have them I believe.
http://www.rexmar.com/page30.html

[Dominator Scott]

Rex Marine, Eddie marine both have them I believe.
http://www.rexmar.com/page30.html
Those aren't the same as the ones posted above. Already checked and Rex doesn't have them.

[MOBrien]

Yes she was a full blown restoration on the boat and trailer,interior and exterior and some motor and jet upgrades as well. Here are a couple before and after pics.
wow. great job. DIY or did you sub out the work?

[wolfie]

Rex Marine, Eddie marine both have them I believe.
http://www.rexmar.com/page30.html
There's also a shop in BHC that'll do a lift on your trailer if you like.

[Dominator Scott]

wow. great job. DIY or did you sub out the work?
MitcherT Custom Painting did the paint job on it for me. Everything else which included the seats,carpeting,gauges,engine and jet drive upgrades was all done by me.
I ended up going way over budget on this project but oh well. :rollside:

[HotRod Sprint]

Recessed cleats would be cool but they are pretty pricey. Sunsation Powerboats was generous enough to provide me with a set of four 6" stainless cleats free of charge so that is what I will be using.
I just hate the thought of drilling into this beautiful MitcherT paint job.
Scott, first of all two huge thumbs up for what you are doing for your dad. My thoughts on this are, with all the money you have already spent on this project what is another $250.00 to $300.00 bucks for a set of pop-up cleats? Next thought is most cleats even though very smooth have little pointy ends on them, of which if some rough water were hit could be hazardous to people if they were mounted inside the gunnels.
This is the cleat I will someday install on my Sprint
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/2750stainless_cleat.jpg
Here is the direct link to them stainless cleat (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/overtons/detail/pdetail2.cgi?r=detail_view&item_num=34759&fcat=). If you go to Overtons.com (http://www.overtons.com/) type in cleats in the search section you can find two pages of cleats with a few other pop ups as well. Hope this helps.
Rod

[Dan Lorenze]

Scott, your Dad is one lucky guy to have a son like yourself... Great job...

[Dominator Scott]

Scott, first of all two huge thumbs up for what you are doing for your dad. My thoughts on this are, with all the money you have already spent on this project what is another $250.00 to $300.00 bucks for a set of pop-up cleats? Next thought is most cleats even though very smooth have little pointy ends on them, of which if some rough water were hit could be hazardous to people if they were mounted inside the gunnels.
This is the cleat I will someday install on my Sprint
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/2750stainless_cleat.jpg
Here is the direct link to them stainless cleat (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/overtons/detail/pdetail2.cgi?r=detail_view&item_num=34759&fcat=). If you go to Overtons.com (http://www.overtons.com/) type in cleats in the search section you can find two pages of cleats with a few other pop ups as well. Hope this helps.
Rod
I really like the pop-up cleats but I just don't know if this Sanger has the room on the under side for them to retract properly. If I go with a pop-up design I would mount them on the outside of the gunnels where you would usually see cleats mounted.
I really like the idea of the flip up cleats that are posted on this thread. That way I'm not drilling any big azz holes.

[Budman13]

Just for info. they make pop up cleats that are about the size of a 50 cent piece. I believe Dana marine makes them. You can have them powder coated or polished. They are convienent and not that noticeable. By the way are looks worth the risk of falling off the dock.

[Big Block]

I'll bet that after all the work and $$ you've put into it that your Dad would love to help you install those Cleats. This would also provide you with the oportunity to actually put him in the boat and see what works for him, real time. Maybe he can even choose the style, but this makes having them on sight an issue, unless you have a selection locally.
Looks great, nice job.

[squirt'nmyload]

This is the cleat I will someday install on my Sprint
you don't need to do that rod.....i'll just have my old lady hold it at the dock for ya......thats why i havn't installed em yethttp://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k265/squirtnmyload/grin.gif
even if i had em to use i prolly wouldn't with all the guys goin mach 1 to their trailers puttin out wakes......but i understand the need for them with your dad, scott. i'd prolly do the retractable on the outside