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bigq
11-24-2006, 10:37 AM
Does anyone else see Russia, Iran and China getting together to beat up on the USA? The UN STILL considering santions...Please they will be considering santions whwn the bombs start to fly.:rolleyes:
Russia has begun deliveries of the Tor-M1 air defence rocket system to Iran, Russian news agencies quoted military industry sources as saying, in the latest sign of a Russian-US rift over Iran.
"Deliveries of the Tor-M1 have begun. The first systems have already been delivered to Tehran," ITAR-TASS quoted an unnamed, high-ranking source as saying Friday.
The United States has pressed Russia to halt military sales to Iran, which Washington accuses of harbouring secret plans to build a nuclear weapon.
Moscow has consistently defended its weapons trade with Iran. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said the contract for 29 rocket systems, signed in December last year, was legitimate because the Tor-M1 has a purely defensive role.
ITAR-TASS reported that the rockets were to be deployed around Iran's nuclear sites, including the still incomplete, Russian-built atomic power station at Bushehr.
In August, Washington announced sanctions against several companies, including Russian arms exporter Rosoboronexport, for supplying technology to Iran that could allegedly be used to develop missile technology and weapons of mass destruction.
Under the sanctions no US company can deal with foreign companies on the sanctions list for two years.
A spokesman for Rosoboronexport contacted by AFP would not confirm or deny the reports about the Tor-M1 delivery, which were also issued by the Interfax news agency.
The Tor-M1 is a low to medium-altitude missile fired from a tracked vehicle against airplanes, helicopters and other airborne targets.
The news came as the UN Security Council continued to consider possible sanctions against Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activity in response to the Islamic republic's suspect nuclear programme.
The major powers have been debating a draft resolution drawn up by Britain, France and Germany that would impose limited sanctions on Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile sectors for Tehran's failure to comply with an earlier UN resolution on halting enrichment.
China and Russia, both close economic partners with Iran, argue the measures are too extensive, while Washington has pressed for tougher action.

Knotbad
11-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Russia can sell all its military hardware and it would still not come anywhere close to what the United States has sold.

Blown 472
11-24-2006, 05:35 PM
Yeah like the stuff we supplied sadaam with in the 80's??

'75 Miller
11-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Yeah like the stuff we supplied sadaam with in the 80's??How is it that Bigg posts a thread about how the Russians are arming a serious and determined ENEMY of The United States, and you two turn it into more America bashing?

'75 Miller
11-24-2006, 09:40 PM
Russia can sell all its military hardware and it would still not come anywhere close to what the United States has sold.
Don't forget the hardware we've simply given outright to Allies of our's, like The Honorable Nation of Israel for instance, in the defense of liberty. I know you and your boy blown just love the fact that your tax dollars, in a very small way, helped to make that happen. I most certainly do.

bigq
11-25-2006, 12:18 AM
Russia can sell all its military hardware and it would still not come anywhere close to what the United States has sold.
That wasn't my question or the point of the post. I know we have sold a lot of weapons to people we should not have, thats no secret if you thought it was. Since you seem to know, how much have we sold or given away to other countries?
Again this just throws off some alarms in my head. It seems Russia might be useing Iran to get back at the USA. Sounds like it wouldn't bother a couple of people on here though.
:rolleyes:

YeLLowBoaT
11-25-2006, 12:20 AM
Russians are hurting for money very badly, they would sell anything right now to get some much needed cash.

Blown 472
11-25-2006, 07:31 AM
How is it that Bigg posts a thread about how the Russians are arming a serious and determined ENEMY of The United States, and you two turn it into more America bashing?
Oh sorry I forgot they threatend us just like Iraq did, right? or was it is israel? and you know we have to do their dirty work for them, oh shit I forgot they are a island or what ever you called it, then there is that mushroom cloud, dang I am confused.
Long live the bush empire.

Blown 472
11-25-2006, 07:32 AM
That wasn't my question or the point of the post. I know we have sold a lot of weapons to people we should not have, thats no secret if you thought it was. Since you seem to know, how much have we sold or given away to other countries?
Again this just throws off some alarms in my head. It seems Russia might be useing Iran to get back at the USA. Sounds like it wouldn't bother a couple of people on here though.
:rolleyes:
Please show me where iran made a direct threat to the us, or where they attacked us.

bigq
11-25-2006, 08:29 AM
Please show me where iran made a direct threat to the us, or where they attacked us.
I can't, please show me where I said they did. :rolleyes:
I may be wrong and you may be right, but I am looking at the build up from China, Iran, and Russia all countries that would like to eliminate the USA. With the hatred in the middle east I think they would bomb us if they had a chance.

'75 Miller
11-25-2006, 09:59 AM
Oh sorry I forgot they threatend us just like Iraq did, right? or was it is israel? and you know we have to do their dirty work for them, oh shit I forgot they are a island or what ever you called it, then there is that mushroom cloud, dang I am confused.
Long live the bush empire.
You sir are the most treasonous, cynical piece of America bashing shit I've ever tried to talk to.
Iran IS an enemy nation. Do our friends protect al qaeda fags, and send operatives into Iraq's insurgency? Do our friends seize our embassies and hold our people captive, consider us the great satan?
You'd be a danger to our country if you were a man of action and not just an internet rabble rouser.
My good man, there's two things keeping you alive....nobody knows who you are and murder is illegal. I mysely am praying for mayhem, praying for some calamity to bring about a short period of lawlessness, civil unrest if you will. Nothing too serious, just a few days where the authorities have their hands full, so traitorous faggots like yourself can be dealt with in the manner you deserve.
God Bless America

QuickJet
11-25-2006, 11:38 AM
Please show me where iran made a direct threat to the us, or where they attacked us.
Ok, since Iran threatend Israel, would you support Israel acting on it's own with a preemptive nuclear strike to prevent Iran from attacking them? I would.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Yeah like the stuff we supplied sadaam with in the 80's??
Just exactly how much of Saddams stockpile of weapons did we (bad Americans) supply ????????
Be careful with the lies nutcase I was over there!

Knotbad
11-25-2006, 02:32 PM
Just exactly how much of Saddams stockpile of weapons did we (bad Americans) supply ????????
Be careful with the lies nutcase I was over there!
Why don't you ask DFeld he knows. Unlike you, he actually made the deals.

QuickJet
11-25-2006, 02:40 PM
Why don't you ask DFeld he knows. Unlike you, he actually made the deals.
So it was a mistake to sell Iraq weapons durring it war with Iran? If that's what you are saying, then by all means you are against the sale of arms to Iran from Russia. Just wanted to be clear on that.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 02:52 PM
Why don't you ask DFeld he knows. Unlike you, he actually made the deals.
Azz-wipe it was LESS than 1% that's ONE PERCENT Now run along and play..

Knotbad
11-25-2006, 03:29 PM
Azz-wipe it was LESS than 1% that's ONE PERCENT Now run along and play..
I see you haven't changed your stripes, still the same dirtbag from OSO.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 03:35 PM
I see you haven't changed your stripes, still the same dirtbag from OSO.
LOL LOL And you are a fuccing NOBODY deal ith it.!!

Blown 472
11-25-2006, 04:00 PM
Just exactly how much of Saddams stockpile of weapons did we (bad Americans) supply ????????
Be careful with the lies nutcase I was over there!
You were there during the iran iraq war? did you fight on the front lines? or what, tell me all about it, you are my hero.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 04:04 PM
You were there during the iran iraq war? did you fight on the front lines? or what, tell me all about it, you are my hero.
Bent you know what I did there and case closed BTW What did you do ??

Blown 472
11-25-2006, 04:05 PM
Bent you know what I did there and case closed BTW What did you do ??
I forgot what you did, please tell me you did since you are the mideast expert.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 04:07 PM
I forgot what you did, please tell me you did since you are the mideast expert.
Will not work Bent what did you do?

Blown 472
11-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Will not work Bent what did you do?
I know you are but what am I, gee I really missed your 12 yr old point of view, ttfn.

Steve 1
11-25-2006, 04:10 PM
I know you are but what am I, gee I really missed your 12 yr old point of view, ttfn.
Better ANYDAY than your 6 year old POV

'75 Miller
11-26-2006, 09:28 AM
So how exactly is Iran an enemy of the US?
Building nukes, building long-range delivery, sending money and agents into Iraq's insurgency, chanting "death to America" after their filthy prayers to a false god. Threatening to wipe friends of our's off the map. Allying themselves with whatever two-bit dicktaster is against America. All of these factors lead me to believe that they're a likely threat and therefore an enemy.
You're only a canadian, so mind your own problems. The slide towards outright socialism and the large influx of muslims from god-knows where would be two good examples.

Blown 472
11-26-2006, 09:32 AM
Building nukes, building long-range delivery, sending money and agents into Iraq's insurgency, chanting "death to America" after their filthy prayers to a false god. Threatening to wipe friends of our's off the map. Allying themselves with whatever two-bit dicktaster is against America. All of these factors lead me to believe that they're a likely threat and therefore an enemy.
You're only a canadian, so mind your own problems. The slide towards outright socialism and the large influx of muslims from god-knows where would be two good examples.
China has nukes, and delivery systems, you know for a fact they are helping in iraq or you heard it on the tv? What friends? and what have these "friends" done for us? spied on us, that is a threat to the us buy yet nothing is done about it? why?

'75 Miller
11-26-2006, 09:48 AM
China has nukes, and delivery systems, you know for a fact they are helping in iraq or you heard it on the tv? What friends? and what have these "friends" done for us? spied on us, that is a threat to the us buy yet nothing is done about it? why?
You must be real butthurt about your tax dollars going to Izzy. But no matter what a lil bitch like you (or your 2 alter egos) may want to happen, we still are the best friend Israel has ever or will ever have. Always have been, always will be. Does that hurt, clown? YOUR tax dollars.

QuickJet
11-26-2006, 10:14 AM
China has nukes, and delivery systems, you know for a fact they are helping in iraq or you heard it on the tv? What friends? and what have these "friends" done for us? spied on us, that is a threat to the us buy yet nothing is done about it? why?
This is about Iran. China has yet to threaten us or our alies and actually assisted in the N.Korea deal. As of now they are aligned with us. Iran, not so much. Soon Israel will take care if Iran. Soon.

'75 Miller
11-26-2006, 01:41 PM
Likely threat = enemy :rolleyes: .......You are a scared little man
Maybe them selling oil in Euros has more to do with the US's "sky is falling" propaganda???
Michael Moore ain't got nuthin on you
Oh I'm hurt, a canadian thinks ill of me. Canada is completely and utterly irrelevant in this day and age. Your opinions carry no weight here, sorry.

Blown 472
11-26-2006, 05:09 PM
Oh I'm hurt, a canadian thinks ill of me. Canada is completely and utterly irrelevant in this day and age. Your opinions carry no weight here, sorry.
How much duct tape and plastic do you have at home?

QuickJet
11-26-2006, 06:03 PM
Likely threat = enemy :rolleyes: .......You are a scared little man
Maybe them selling oil in Euros has more to do with the US's "sky is falling" propaganda???
Michael Moore ain't got nuthin on you
That post makes no sense. Someone who is considered a likely threat would also be considered an enemy. How often are our alies considered likely threats?
Then again when has any Canadian added anything to a conversation that made sense?

Forkin' Crazy
11-26-2006, 10:02 PM
That post makes no sense. Someone who is considered a likely threat would also be considered an enemy. How often are our alies considered likely threats?
Then again when has any Canadian added anything to a conversation that made sense?
I agree. But watch out. Don't piss off Canada. They're liable to get their tank out. :boxed:

QuickJet
11-26-2006, 10:41 PM
I agree. But watch out. Don't piss off Canada. They're liable to get their tank out. :boxed:
Hah, they havn't fired that thing up in years and the only guy that knows how to use it died along time ago :D