My new UBFJ motor [Archive]

blue wonder

12-10-2006, 02:51 PM

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20787&stc=1&d=1165789216
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20788&stc=1&d=1165789654
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20793&stc=1&d=1165790504
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20794&stc=1&d=1165790676
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20795&stc=1&d=1165790848
Well i had to keep up with everyone else with that has spread-port heads...but like always i had to get bigger ones!!!!!...hopefully with this bad boy i can keep up!!!:)

67weimann

12-10-2006, 03:08 PM

Nice...

FuelInMyVeins82

12-10-2006, 05:54 PM

Nice. How many inches and what kind of compression? Whos building it?

blue wonder

12-10-2006, 05:58 PM

Nice. How many inches and what kind of compression? Whos building it?
its a sonny leonard motor

wsuwrhr

12-10-2006, 06:28 PM

Nice.
Brian

wsuwrhr

12-10-2006, 06:30 PM

How about a pic of the valve area. Must be a seriously deep rail to have such a short valve cover.
You got to love all aluminum motors.
There was an aluminum block thread going in the gearheads forum last week.
Brian

blue wonder

12-10-2006, 06:42 PM

steelcomp

12-10-2006, 06:51 PM

sure got a lot of work ahead of you.

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT

12-10-2006, 07:01 PM

Damn that thing looks puuurdy;) It sure looks exspensive!!!!!

wsuwrhr

12-10-2006, 07:02 PM

now now...cant give up all the secrets...
Secrets?
What is so secret under the valve cover?
Those heads are available to anyone with money aren't they?
Brian

olbiezer

12-10-2006, 07:09 PM

wow that thing has dollar signs written all over it..........:hammerhea

MikeF

12-10-2006, 08:48 PM

Having a hard time believing what I'm seeing! DAMN DUDE! :mix:

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT

12-10-2006, 08:52 PM

Is this motor going in that blue picklefork that had an injected motor with zoomies?

steelcomp

12-10-2006, 09:58 PM

That thing's a long way from being a motor...all I see is a pair of heads and a block that need mega-hours and mega dollars spent. I'm guessing there aren't even any seats or guides in the heads...not much to hide under the valve covers. It's going to be one awsome piece when it's done, that's for sure.
Who's building it? How big? What's the target power?
I hope you keep us posted on this. :D

cyclone

12-10-2006, 10:05 PM

my motor is not even in the same league as this one but if i learned one thing putting mine together its that this shit don't slap together in a weekend. that spread port, canted valve stuff is custom. good luck tony. hope that thing rips when you get it in the boat.

Bottle Fed

12-10-2006, 11:01 PM

It'll probably slow down with that thing in there, but I know the mouth won't though. :-) lol.

Cs19

12-11-2006, 03:04 AM

aluminum blocks dont make any power..LOL:)
nice parts Tony, who makes the heads and block?

DEL51

12-11-2006, 05:47 AM

That things a Hemi! Bulit to keep up with the big Kaase shotguns in IHRA prostock. I wonder how many cubes, Probably more than 700. The domes are rotated 90 degrees. The big sonny engines are around 90 K. I read about them somewhere. Very Kool !

UBFJ #454

12-11-2006, 07:58 AM

Tony - Just FYI ... If that Monster is going to be a 737 cid'r as is marked in felt pen on the face of the block then, that's going to be one heck of an expensive 'Bracket Motor' as the UBFJ cid Limit in the NJBA is 670 (and that was difficult to get up'd from 565) and when Charlie opens the Class in the IHBA it will be 565 (just like TAJ & TFJ). If your Serious about wanting to run UBFJ, you might want to consider that before ordering more parts.

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT

12-11-2006, 08:19 AM

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20793&stc=1&d=1165790504
Why does it appear that one of those exhaust porrts look larger than the rest??

UBFJ #454

12-11-2006, 08:34 AM

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20788&stc=1&d=1165789654
Notice the intake port of the same cylinder (#6) from the front/side.

Wicked Performance Boats

12-11-2006, 09:00 AM

Boy, Bring out something new and the grilling starts. But good luck with this great project. It's a engine after my own heart. If there was a Santa Claus, I've been good. I'd ask for that motor complete!!!!!! Budlight

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 11:27 AM

Secrets?
What is so secret under the valve cover?
Those heads are available to anyone with money aren't they?
Brian
then go buy some!!

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 11:28 AM

aluminum blocks dont make any power..LOL:)
nice parts Tony, who makes the heads and block?
blocks a donovan heads are sonny's

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 11:30 AM

BigBlockOldsJet

12-11-2006, 11:56 AM

Why does it appear that one of those exhaust porrts look larger than the rest??
He ran out of money, that's all the port work he could afford.

Taylorman

12-11-2006, 12:10 PM

Is that a Sonnys BBC with hemi heads?

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 12:20 PM

Is that a Sonnys BBC with hemi heads?
you bet ya!!!

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 12:42 PM

Is that a Sonnys BBC with hemi heads?
you bet ya!!!

wsuwrhr

12-11-2006, 04:14 PM

then go buy some!!
Wow,
A true dick.
Phuck your ford parts you peice of crap.
I was just curious about your project.
Brian

Bense468

12-11-2006, 04:33 PM

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20787&stc=1&d=1165789216
THATS GONNA BE ONE FAST ATC. I GOT SOME WORK TO DO TO THE BANSHEE...

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 05:05 PM

Wow,
A true dick.
Phuck your ford parts you peice of crap.
I was just curious about your project.
Brian
sorry if you got the wrong impression...i wasnt trying to be a dick!!!...:) im actually a real humble guy...well at least i am now that ive ran a race now...very humbling experience!!!!

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 05:07 PM

THATS GONNA BE ONE FAST ATC. I GOT SOME WORK TO DO TO THE BANSHEE...
dont worry i got the conversion kit...its a 4-wheeler now!!!:) youd be surprised how hard it is to find a kit for a 90:)

Psycho Squid

12-11-2006, 05:11 PM

lucky for me they make different stroke cranks:) its only gonna be 670...im de-stroking itThe things you do to try to get around me. LOL..........:) See ya this week for golf?

blue wonder

12-11-2006, 05:17 PM

The things you do to try to get around me. LOL..........:) See ya this week for golf?
yeah well ya gotta do what ya gotta do:) i couldnt live with myself if i got beat by a boat with side tanks and carpet...you put a ski tow on it and im screwed!!!!

Cs19

12-12-2006, 11:46 PM

Tony, are you seriously building this for your picklefork?
Some of the guys in UBFJ were hoping its true.:)

blue wonder

12-13-2006, 09:46 AM

Tony, are you seriously building this for your picklefork?
Some of the guys in UBFJ were hoping its true.:)
Of course...isnt everything you read on ***boat true???...im hoping it will be done for next season but we will see what happens...i got a lot of money to spend still!!!

TCRUSH

12-13-2006, 09:56 AM

That is so freaking sweet.I can barely afford to rebuild my 1978 cast iron BBF460.Your in a different league with that monster.

OverKill

12-13-2006, 10:39 AM

Do they make something that nice in a CHEVY????

blue wonder

12-13-2006, 10:49 AM

Do they make something that nice in a CHEVY????
it is a chevy:)

Taylorman

12-13-2006, 10:55 AM

Is this your finished product?
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/support-images/engines/hemiengine.jpg

blue wonder

12-13-2006, 11:02 AM

Is this your finished product?
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/support-images/engines/hemiengine.jpg
close minus the carbs....carbs are dumb!!!!

Taylorman

12-13-2006, 11:08 AM

close minus the carbs....carbs are dumb!!!!
NA injected motor?

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT

12-13-2006, 11:12 AM

close minus the carbs....carbs are dumb!!!!
Hey hey hey, some of us are partial to carbs:p injection is nice but Id rather be BLOW:crossx:

blue wonder

12-13-2006, 11:24 AM

NA injected motor?
you bet ya!!!...its the only way to go...i run it now and i absolutely love it!!!

Jetboatguru

12-13-2006, 11:47 AM

Hey hey hey, some of us are partial to carbs:p injection is nice but Id rather be BLOWING 460 IN THE BACK SEAT OF MY ELDORADO:crossx:
fag!

UBFJ #454

12-13-2006, 02:51 PM

NA injected motor?
you bet ya!!!...its the only way to go...i run it now and i absolutely love it!!!
Mechanical Injection I assume since all Drag Boat Associations Prohibit EFI classifying it as electronic throttle control which is an Absolute No, No.

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT

12-13-2006, 03:12 PM

I love the way 460 uses a rubber on me in my eldorado
Damn guru, I am worried about you bro:eek:

Mike D..

12-13-2006, 07:15 PM

close minus the carbs....carbs are dumb!!!!
thats nice!! sure looks like your raising the bar in here. whats the size of the motor in the boat now?

Cs19

12-13-2006, 08:04 PM

you bet ya!!!...its the only way to go...i run it now and i absolutely love it!!!
I thought you said the thing never lites when your on the rope. LOL

moneysucker

12-13-2006, 08:15 PM

I thought you said the thing never lites when your on the rope. LOL
Mine has been great since the primer bottle.

blue wonder

12-14-2006, 12:57 AM

I thought you said the thing never lites when your on the rope. LOL
yeah well everyone knows you cant have your cake and eat it too!!!!..i put a much better primer system on it for next year so hopefully that will work better.

blue wonder

12-14-2006, 12:58 AM

thats nice!! sure looks like your raising the bar in here. whats the size of the motor in the boat now?
its only a little 532 at 12.68 to 1 right now:)

Bottle Fed

12-14-2006, 01:45 AM

go to bed would ya. did you se the pics I sent down with big D?

blue wonder

12-14-2006, 07:50 AM

go to bed would ya. did you se the pics I sent down with big D?
yes i did...thats what i was up at that time of night for...thanks jeff they look great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

steelcomp

12-14-2006, 08:59 PM

close minus the carbs....carbs are dumb!!!!I think you got it backwards...injection's dumb...dosen't know a thing except what yout tell it to do. Pumps, barrel valves,. bleeds, bypasses...:hammerhea
Carbs, on the other hand...just keep the float bowl full, and it does the rest. Infinitely intelligent.
Just stirring the pot, here. :D

stoker2001

12-14-2006, 09:08 PM

go to bed would ya. did you se the pics I sent down with big D?Jeff,i got mine today too and they all look great!!!! thanks alot,i will get back to you after the holidays about doing a banner.happy holidays

Cs19

12-14-2006, 11:48 PM

Just stirring the pot, here. :D
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

Jack $hit

12-16-2006, 09:29 AM

Thats not your engine junior, quit taking pictures of other peoples stuff and calling it you own, lol. Hell, im going over John Forces shop later, i'll take some pictures of my new fueler thats going in my moped and show everybody on here so they think im cool. Have a great day.
Jack

blue wonder

12-17-2006, 07:48 PM

pacman

12-17-2006, 09:54 PM

motor or not junior here is going to smoke your ass if you actually show your face next year
GOOD COMEBAC TONY, I HATE A LOUDMOUTH ASSHOLE LIKE THAT IF U NEED ANY HELP WITH YOUR PROGRAM NEXT YEAR U CAN CALL ON ME TO HELP
EDDIE 288 TAH

Cs19

12-17-2006, 10:57 PM

Jeff,i got mine today too and they all look great!!!! thanks alot,i will get back to you after the holidays about doing a banner.happy holidays
got mine too, thanks Jeff!
CS

Bottle Fed

12-17-2006, 11:24 PM

got mine too, thanks Jeff!
CS
You're all welcome. Glad you got them. Now Chris, I see that you have been using the pics I sent to you to cause hate and discontent. Be careful pickin on poor defenseless little Joe like that cause I may need to break out the kung fu photoshop on ya. You may find yourself getting beat up by BP in the 10.00 class or maybe even a river racer or 2. LOL. Happy Holidays to everyone.

Cs19

12-18-2006, 10:24 AM

You're all welcome. Glad you got them. Now Chris, I see that you have been using the pics I sent to you to cause hate and discontent. Be careful pickin on poor defenseless little Joe like that cause I may need to break out the kung fu photoshop on ya. You may find yourself getting beat up by BP in the 10.00 class or maybe even a river racer or 2. LOL. Happy Holidays to everyone.
HAHA I think Sofa is having trouble getting logged in, which explains him not backin himself up, meanwhile Im enjoying myself. :mix:
Thanks Jeff. Happy Holidays.
CS

Jack $hit

12-18-2006, 10:35 AM

motor or not junior here is going to smoke your ass if you actually show your face next year
Come on now Junior, dont gat mad because I called you on your pictures. Last time I checked there was no FBRA (Fantasy Boat Racing Association) so just relax. Hey, you should buy fbraracing.com and hook it up. It could be just like Fantasy Football but less organized with more drama, you know, just like real boat racing. Merry Christmas, make sure you post pictures of all the fake stuff Santa didnt bring you.
Jack

steelcomp

12-22-2006, 07:51 PM

I was just looking at a couple of pairs of these yesterday. One pair was already CNC'd, the other pair still raw, waiting for ports. Pictures don't do these things justice...they're HUGE! The pair I was looking at are going on an 800" motor, and we were talking about how the ports are going to be borderline too big for that motor. On something under 700", in a jet boat, the consensus was that unless you're going to spin this thing 9500 rpm, these are just a might bit overkill. :) They're not really a "Hemi", either. Some big sombichin hunks of aluminum, that's fo sho.:eek: http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20788&stc=1&d=1165789654

Unchained

12-23-2006, 07:31 AM

I think you got it backwards...injection's dumb...dosen't know a thing except what you tell it to do. Pumps, barrel valves,. bleeds, bypasses...:hammerhea
Carbs, on the other hand...just keep the float bowl full, and it does the rest. Infinitely intelligent.
Infinitely intelligent, in a nostalgic 1800's sort of way.

steelcomp

12-23-2006, 08:43 AM

Infinitely intelligent, in a nostalgic 1800's sort of way.LOL...yeah, and still works without being told what to do. Bolt it on, and it does what it's suposed to. No snesors, no programing, no computer. Pretty simple, effective stuff.
All the high tech in the world can't change that fact.

moneysucker

12-26-2006, 03:51 PM

LOL...yeah, and still works without being told what to do. Bolt it on, and it does what it's suposed to. No snesors, no programing, no computer. Pretty simple, effective stuff.
All the high tech in the world can't change that fact.
Of course therre is mechanical injection. Hmmmm....

blue wonder

12-26-2006, 06:39 PM

Of course therre is mechanical injection. Hmmmm....
of course who would use something stupid like sensors and crap like that...waste of space and too damn many wires...mechanical is way easier!!!

Unchained

12-26-2006, 07:03 PM

Of course therre is mechanical injection. Hmmmm....
Where ALL the injectors are dumping ALL the time, There's some fuel metering precision. LOL :idea: :D
I'd have to say that of all the Enderle's I've seen on lake boats, over 80% of them were just dumping in way to much fuel and idled real high.

BAE_557

12-26-2006, 08:55 PM

Where ALL the injectors are dumping ALL the time, There's some fuel metering precision. LOL :idea: :D
I'd have to say that of all the Enderle's I've seen on lake boats, over 80% of them were just dumping in way to much fuel and idled real high.
I run 24 injectors which do not dump fuel all the time, there is a spring loaded device in mechanical fuel injection called a poppet that regulates fuel distribution by pressure.

moneysucker

12-26-2006, 09:26 PM

Where ALL the injectors are dumping ALL the time, There's some fuel metering precision. LOL :idea: :D
I'd have to say that of all the Enderle's I've seen on lake boats, over 80% of them were just dumping in way to much fuel and idled real high.
Running an idle check may help that. Just a thought though.

steelcomp

12-26-2006, 10:55 PM

Where ALL the injectors are dumping ALL the time, There's some fuel metering precision. LOL :idea: :D
I'd have to say that of all the Enderle's I've seen on lake boats, over 80% of them were just dumping in way to much fuel and idled real high.Yeah, f*ck...those things aren't worth the pot metal they're made out of. It's damn amazing anyone ever won a race with one!! :notam: