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Parker Dreamin
12-14-2006, 07:54 AM
Torrance City Council approves fee structure for RV parking
To load and unload on the street, residents will pay $25 for one-time registration and $10 daily. Package deals also will be offered.
By Kristin S. Agostoni
DAILY BREEZE
The owners of recreational vehicles, trailers and other oversized rigs in Torrance will be pulling out their wallets next summer for the privilege of parking curbside.
Capping a 2-year-old debate over RV regulations, the City Council on Tuesday approved permit fees for residents wanting to park temporarily on city streets, along with a one-time registration cost of $25. Nonresidents won't be able to park their rigs on Torrance streets without a resident sponsor -- a rule the city crafted as parking complaints mounted.
The same problem has dogged communities around the South Bay, and Hawthorne and Los Angeles have followed suit with their own RV regulations.
In Torrance, RV owners with driveways and storage spots aren't necessarily required to register their rides, but those who pull onto the street to load and unload at least five times a year would save money by doing so.
That's because a resident who registers an RV and buys a package with 24 one-day street parking permits would pay $45, while single daily permits would cost $10 apiece.
The rates, which will come back for final council approval next week, would go into effect in July, said transportation planner Ted Semaan. Vehicles can be registered as soon as the fees are set.
"These types of programs aren't money-generating programs," Mayor Frank Scotto said afterward. "It's not to penalize people. ... I think it's extremely reasonable to expect someone to pay less than a dollar a day to park."
Some of the fees approved Tuesday dipped slightly from those recommended in a staff report, and council members approved reduced rates for low-income residents.
Yet many RV owners turned up to complain, arguing they shouldn't have to pay to park for a day -- even a couple of hours -- while they're cleaning and packing their motor homes.
"I'll pay because I have to hook my car up" to a trailer, said resident Ron Waller, who has owned either an RV, trailer or motor home since 1969.
"I don't think it's fair for 15 or 20 minutes," he added. "It's going to cost me $45, and I can afford it, it's just the principle of the thing."
Others said they'll refuse to pay for parking permits, even with the threat of being cited or towed. One man called the rules "restrictive" and "complicated," and questioned whether the city had raised the fees to cover more than just administrative costs.
A staff report indicates the permit packages -- some of which were $10 higher than the ones the council ultimately approved -- could generate $112,500 annually. The city's cost to administer the program was estimated at $95,000 to $117,000.
The staff will also reassess the fees at the end of 2007, Semaan said.
Resident Newt Young called the rates "generous," possibly even too low.
"There's going to be an enforcement problem. These people aren't going to comply," said Young, who doesn't own an RV. "It may be too lenient."
The great motor home debate has gripped Torrance for at least two years.
In December 2004, with parking concerns mounting, the city held a public meeting to find ways to ensure RVs don't overstay their welcome. After several more meetings, the council in August finally signed off on a citywide system allowing vehicles without registration stickers to be cited, towed or both for parking on the streets.
Citation rates are still being set.
Each RV owner will be allowed up to 96 permits per year, not to exceed 24 per quarter or three consecutive days.
Emergency and service vehicles will be exempt. And Torrance residents who decide to host RV-driving guests from other cities will be able to apply for as many as 30 daily permits in a year, not to be used on more than 14 consecutive days.
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Biglue
12-14-2006, 08:58 AM
CHA-CHING. :argue:

CampbellCarl
12-14-2006, 10:46 AM
...."approved reduced rates for low income....." WTF?????????
What the fock is a low income person doing with an RV? If 'ya can't afford the f'ing fees, 'ya can't afford an RV!
Carl

Primetime
12-14-2006, 10:54 AM
That is why I moved out of torrance this year.What I think is funny is the new mayor of torrance just happens to own his own tow truck service.(frank scotto towing) I wonder who will be doing all the towing of trailers.

EmpirE231
12-14-2006, 10:55 AM
that's a bunch of shit! shouldn't have to pay for loading up your RV/trailer... or even leaving it overnight before a trip! but people who park them their for storage should be cited!

Jyruiz
12-14-2006, 11:02 AM
...."approved reduced rates for low income....." WTF?????????
What the fock is a low income person doing with an RV? If 'ya can't afford the f'ing fees, 'ya can't afford an RV!
Carl
Thats what I was thinking when I read that part.

Mandelon
12-14-2006, 11:17 AM
So the nice family from Utah on vacation in so cal parks their motorhome on the street while eating lunch at a Torrance restaurant and its gonna get towed?
:confused:
Government is so lame. But azzholes who park the RV's for days at a time in residential neghborhoods are lame too....

riverbound
12-14-2006, 11:22 AM
that's a bunch of shit! shouldn't have to pay for loading up your RV/trailer... or even leaving it overnight before a trip! but people who park them their for storage should be cited!
I cant even park my trailer in my city. I would gladly have the option for this type of program. Of course finding the room on my street to park it would be a whole other issue.:(

Biglue
12-14-2006, 11:25 AM
That is why I moved out of torrance this year.What I think is funny is the new mayor of torrance just happens to own his own tow truck service.(frank scotto towing) I wonder who will be doing all the towing of trailers.
Wasn't he a cop at one point also? Or was that Van Lingen?

eliminatedsprinter
12-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Sounds to me like an idiotic solution to a non problem. Just a hassle for RV owners for no real public benefit. Who in the hell could be uptight enough to care if someone parks for a short time in front of their own house to load or unload a RV for a trip?? And why would anyone listen to the pissing and moaning of someone who does???
Most cities already ticket people who long term store on the street and blocking traffic or a driveway is already illegal. This new law is stupid and totally unnecessary.

Parker Dreamin
12-14-2006, 11:41 AM
That is why I moved out of torrance this year.What I think is funny is the new mayor of torrance just happens to own his own tow truck service.(frank scotto towing) I wonder who will be doing all the towing of trailers.
"Sorry to shoot down your conspiracy theory, but Frank Scotto Towing
does not tow for the city of Torrance...Van Lingen Towing has that contract"

Biglue
12-14-2006, 11:43 AM
"Sorry to shoot down your conspiracy theory, but Frank Scotto Towing
does not tow for the city of Torrance...Van Lingen Towing has that contract"
They actually work pretty close together there PD. I would not be surprised if there was a little something behind the scenes. :supp:

Parker Dreamin
12-14-2006, 11:45 AM
They actually work pretty close together there PD. I would not be surprised if there was a little something behind the scenes. :supp:
notice the quotes ?

Biglue
12-14-2006, 11:51 AM
notice the quotes ?
gotcha. :shift:

VictoryIzMine
12-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Huntington Beach has similar ordinances. The real difference though, is that the permits are free.
http://www.hbpd.org/traffic_rvparking.htm
:mix:

GETSOME
12-14-2006, 03:04 PM
Sounds like complete BS to me.

squirt'nmyload
12-14-2006, 03:12 PM
...."approved reduced rates for low income....." WTF?????????
What the fock is a low income person doing with an RV? If 'ya can't afford the f'ing fees, 'ya can't afford an RV!
Carl
:hammerhea :hammerhea :hammerhea :hammerhea :hammerhea