Viper V-10

[pebrown2]

I was reading Hot Boat Mag and noticed that a firm finally marinized a Dodge Viper V-10 engine. I assuming it's the all aluminum engine and not the truck engine. I see alot of potential here! Does anybody else? I imagine it's probably in the "exotic" power class, as performance parts would be a bit on the limited and expensive side. I can see one in a flatbottom. Any thoughts?

[burbanite]

Is this the Ilmor V-10 you are talking about?

[rrrr]

Hey burb, our guys took a tour at Ilmor, told me the marinized V-10 looked like "the shit" LOL.
Only problem is they want $45K for 'em. You can build a mean ass BBC for that kind of moola. I think they are rated at 650 HP and 625 ft lbs, pretty easy to beat that.
Are you gonna get your lazy butt out of the shop and come to TMS? :D :D

[pebrown2]

Yeah, I bet they're expensive! Parts aren't too prevelent on the market yet. If they want to be competitive in the market, they'll find a way to reduce the price. Give them a few years. Maybe approach Chrysler and buy a whole lot of those engines, Get them back into the Marine business. Remember in the late 60's and 70's Oldsmobile was almost giving those 455s away to the boat and pump manufacturers.

[Danhercules]

what about the Northstar? They use em in buggies?

[OMEGA_BUBBLE_JET]

Danhercules:
what about the Northstar? They use em in buggies? I don't think so. it is a small block. Now that new 1000hp caddy might stand a chance. too bad it probably weighs about 1500lbs. I think it is like 16L or something. huge engine. Now that has potential..... :D
Omega

[burbanite]

rrrr:
Are you gonna get your lazy butt out of the shop and come to TMS? :D :D Only if you take me out in your flattie... wink
Actually I'm too freakin' busy getting ready for next year to move far. I'll be at the awards banquet in Orlando though... :D
Good luck, this race is going to be a blast.

[Danhercules]

I am not tying to highjack this thread, but we are talking about diffrent Motors,
How bout a Diesel with a 2 speed?
Gobbs of torque, and I have heard is all about tourqe!!!

[victorfb]

diesels are working awsome in the off-shore class.
so all you guys that just chuckled when you read that, go look at some of the offshore boats.

[OMEGA_BUBBLE_JET]

too bad diesels weigh a freakin' ton literally. they work good for big boats that can distribute that weight easier. a diesel probably wouldn't be the answer in a smaller boat.....IMO.
Omega

[Danhercules]

OK then, who is gonna come out with aluminum block and head diesel?
[ October 09, 2003, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: Danhercules ]

[Wet Dream]

I was watching a ski tournament and one of the boats had a Lamborghini V-12 in it. What do you thing that bitch runs? :D

[Cheap Thrills]

Danhercules:
OK then, who is gonna come out with aluminum block and head diesel? http://www.yachtboutique.com/images/BM_Engines.jpg
Bugatti ,, but then again a 42 cylinder radial isnt going to fit in your flatty
oops time to edit ... the 42 radial isnt aluminum ,, the V-12 is ....
[ October 09, 2003, 10:24 PM: Message edited by: Cheap Thrills ]

[HammerDown]

dreamsicle:
http://www.yachtboutique.com/images/BM_Engines.jpg
I think we're gonna need a bigger boat :D And a really, really, really, really big Impeller eek!

[502procharger]

Turbine power is the way of the future. Light, high hp, long wot runs with no problems. there is a reason they are using them in the unlimited’s. i have a project boat in the works with twin t-53-13's 1350hp each and only 500lbs each. i have a pair that cost me less than building my new 540bbc.

[pebrown2]

Hey I'm with you man! Turbine Power!!! I saw a 20-21ft Kurtis Hydro with a T-35 Lycoming. It was also a project boat and was for sale. I can't remember where I saw it. I love to hear those turbines spooling up!

[Havasu Cig]

Turbines are awesome, but the fuel consumption is a problem. I read an article on one of the Skaters, might have been "Jet Set", that was running turbines.They said it burned 65 gallons an hour at idle, and 75 gallons an hour at WOT. eek!

[Dr. Eagle]

HammerDown:
dreamsicle:
http://www.yachtboutique.com/images/BM_Engines.jpg
I think we're gonna need a bigger boat :D And a really, really, really, really big Impeller eek! hell, and a bigger lake, I think the lake level will drop when you hit the gas....

[Dr. Eagle]

there is a good lengthy article on this engines development in this months Poker Runs America magazine. It appears to be a modified production engine not an aluminum block.

[carreraboat]

hey 502 where did you pick up those turbines

[502procharger]

turbines really are amazing. it is true about the fuel issue but my quad 2.5 efi chris cat uses as much or more fuel per hr at wot. the t53 will use 83 gph at wot and much, much less at idle. i buy and sell t53's and other turbines from all over. i only buy and sell a dozen or so a year because i just do it as a hobby but i heve learned enough about them to know what i am getting into when i check them over and buy them. there is a lot of "junk"out there so be carefull. the allison t63 is a great small light turbine use in a lot of first turbine boat projects. the t58 or gnome 1200 is a good turbine for a boat but a lot has to be done to marine ready that turbine, and it has no built in gear box. the t53 has a built in gear box with an output shaft speed between 6300 rpms. there are a bunch of t53's out there from a 1a at 860hp to a -13 at 1350hp( that is what i use) again be carefull there was a guy on thes boards that went by the name of "gas turbine" that said he had a 1350hp t53 from the 70's and my buddy ended up with it and it was a -5a 860hp unit. expect to pay 4k-6k for anything below a -11, 7k - 10k for a -11 and 10k - 20k for a -13. keep in mind these things run a cool 500k or better bran new.

[carreraboat]

so do you have one in a boat yet i would like to see some more of them in boats i saw the carrera that has a nice set up but no one has posted anything else about it what drive do you use?

[502procharger]

I do not have them in a hull as of yet. I have the turbines and they have been gone through tested and run. I have custom-made bell housings and brake set ups built. I have 17" on center drop boxes that are being fitted to the bell housings as well as mounts to be fitted to the stringers. I have a bunch of other necessary misc parts and I am collecting more every day. I am going to be using #6 drives. This project is just costing me a pile of cash so i am doing it piece by piece. The hull i originally had planned to use a 30'chris cat that I bought got used for another project, i ended up putting 4 2.5 efi's on it. Right now am trying to work a deal with a guy for a 1987 32 skater with no power. It has #5 drives but i really don’t think they will hold up so i am trying to get him to sell me the hull without them. I will keep you all posted on my progress. I helped a buddy of mine rig a single t53-11 in a 28 cat so I do have a fair amount of experience getting everything set up.